Post by WalksInSpirit on Jan 9, 2007 22:41:48 GMT -5
Healing Stones Chat: 01-09-07
(09:28:56) (Cris) I'm going to get started
(09:29:19) (Cris) Lord and Protector of all please be with us on our spiritual journey as we seek a higher plane of thought. Let us see opportunity to work in your grace as we come together to seek peace in this world. Amen
(09:29:30) (Bill) Amen
(09:29:33) (merri) Amen
(09:29:37) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:29:40) (Raleigh) Amen
(09:30:16) (docyabut) what do you think the smell was in NY?
(09:30:46) (Cris) I'm not sure it could have been a type of methane
(09:31:01) (Cris) They think it came from NJ but it might not have
(09:31:05) (WalksInSpirit) New Jersey. ;-) Just kiddin
(09:31:14) (merri) LOL
(09:31:29) (WalksInSpirit) I knew you'd like that, Merri! LOL
(09:31:30) (docyabut) well they dont seen to know where it came from
(09:31:34) (Raleigh) you guys /:)
(09:31:55) (Raleigh) so cris has a special study lined up tonight //
(09:32:05) (Cris) I had a new EC bookon stones but it has vanished I hope I didn't put it in a donation box
(09:32:24) (Cris) I am doing a short on the history of stones in healing
(09:33:11) (docyabut) could it be a gas bubble commining up from under the water under the earth
(09:33:33) (Cris) It could have been gas from the ocean Doc
(09:33:41) (Cris) there are underwater vents
(09:33:48) (Cris) NYC is a coastal city
(09:35:20) (Cris) In every culture flint and stones were used as tools to make fire
(09:35:40) (Raleigh) i really shouldnt be late / appt with the bishop / lds no smokin plan im gonna try
(09:35:51) (Raleigh) java to o
(09:35:54) (Raleigh) man
(09:36:02) (Cris) This is a brief outline on rocks throughout history
(09:36:07) (Cris) Early man used rocks as tools in an effort to forge a better life by making projectile points for hunting and axes for easing his workload. In time people began to carve stones using them for decoration as well as a symbol of power.
(09:36:09) (Raleigh) sorry i got to miss class cris //
(09:37:28) (docyabut) they say natural gas doen`snt smell it the additive that are added tha smell such as sulfer as on however i think it cound be natural sulfer from the earth mix in
(09:37:50) (Cris) I think you are right Doc
(09:38:07) (Cris) I had a course in underwater geology more years ago than I care to count
(09:38:44) (Cris) Over years of observation medicine people, sages and alchemists began to track the effect of some of these minerals and metals as people used them. They noted that some had a sickly effect, those are known today as radioactive minerals.
(09:38:58) (docyabut) dont they say that NY sits on a volcano
(09:39:36) (Cris) It sits near an old pluton and I think what is supposed to be an inactive vent
(09:40:03) (Cris) If that vent is becoming active it could account for the smell yesterday
(09:40:29) (Moira) wow your serious Cris?
(09:40:37) (Cris) yes
(09:40:48) (Cris) I know a lot about geology
(09:40:51) (MERLIN) what vent crkis?
(09:41:21) (docyabut) the dead birds in auston are stange to differents kinds of brids that all drop dead would not be a flu
(09:41:29) (Moira) a volcano smells like gas?
(09:41:29) (Cris) there are old volcanic vents up and down the east coast
(09:42:00) (Cris) Not usually we were discussing the strange smell in NYC yesterday
(09:42:09) (MERLIN) is there a place near you ? the vent that is?
(09:42:13) (Cris) I'm thinking the bird thing could be natural
(09:42:24) (docyabut) we know the earth is heating up and we could have more stange things happening
(09:42:47) (ernie) ok hey if their old vent there still vents are allwise inactive till they come active
(09:42:56) (Moira) what does snaglepuss say ?
(09:42:58) (Cris) Because of the strange weather birds are feeding on buds and berries that could be toxic at this time of year
(09:43:37) (Cris) Birds are also known to get drunk on fermented berries and fly into windows
(09:44:08) (Cris) I'm guessing there was something they might have fed on that wasn't good for them
(09:44:21) (Cris) They also noticed that others seemed to exert a helpful or even healing influence. In enlightened societies written records were kept of these changes.
(09:45:12) (docyabut) they should know the results on those birds but i haven heard anything on what they found
(09:45:12) (ernie) they fly int windows any way there was somthing down town in wilmington that was causing a bunch of birds to fly into some window i cant recall exactlty what it was
(09:45:44) (Cris) Civilizations all over the world used natural hot springs as curative baths. It isn’t known in some cases if the minerals in the springs held the cure or the steam, which often relieved congestion and body aches. Even today people visit those springs often for the same reason as their ancestors did they feel better after soaking in the mineral springs.
(09:46:11) (Cris) They also noticed that certain places seemed to have a power or force when visited. These were often called spiritual or power spots and their locations were often kept secret.
(09:46:12) (docyabut) wasnt that in the movie CORE?
(09:46:30) (Cris) I don't think I sawthat movie
(09:46:51) (ernie) ? i dont know i just recall it was this past year
(09:47:09) (ernie) they fixed it
(09:47:09) (Cris) The shamans, healers, medicine people and sages working with stones noticed that the stones used for one person often didn’t work well for another unless they were cleaned and cleared. So they developed different techniques for clearing the stones.
(09:47:31) (ernie) ?
(09:47:37) (Cris) One way was to lay them out in sunlight. Some minerals, such as amethyst, faded in time from too much strong light. They also used the light of a full moon. It was thought that the moon energy cleansed and recharged the stones.
(09:47:48) (ernie) so the stone absorbed the ailment
(09:47:49) (ernie) like
(09:48:04) (Cris) yes Ernie
(09:48:10) (Cris) That is a method used by some healers today.
(09:48:18) (ernie) cool
(09:49:17) (Cris) Another method for clearing stones was sea salt. The stone to be cleared was immersed in sea salt or sometimes in salt water. The crystal is placed point down in the salt overnight or in ideal conditions for 24 hours sometimes longer.
(09:49:46) (Cris) If you are attempting to heal with new crystals you have acquired you should cleanse or clear them before using them.
(09:50:12) (Cris) Other clearing methods were to put smaller stones on large clusters, or to immerse them in a stream of running water in a mesh bag or to bury the in herbs or the earth for a period of time usually 24 hours.
(09:50:43) (Cris) When you bury stones, and that method does work, remember where you buried them
(09:50:55) (merri) what are they clearing the stones of Cris?
(09:50:57) (Cris) I've lost a few I didn't keep track of
(09:51:27) (Cris) negative energy, old energy and in some cases illness when a stone is used for healing
(09:51:50) (merri) so they should be cleansed after using?
(09:51:54) (Cris) The reason for cleaning a stone is the same reason you clean your home or clothes
(09:51:56) (WalksInSpirit) Cris, I have used the light of a full moon to cleanse my large crystal point.
(09:52:13) (docyabut) cris do you really think stones can heal?
(09:52:16) (Al-A) Cayce gave the best way was with the use of a strong magnet.
(09:52:26) (Cris) That's a good method. I clear stones when I use them on other people
(09:52:33) (ernie) i do i think so
(09:52:41) (Cris) They can speed healing
(09:52:49) (docyabut) is there really any proof?
(09:52:54) (ernie) stone and metals and crystals
(09:52:59) (Cris) they can help balance the body so it can heal itself
(09:53:06) (Al-A) To clear stones of negative vibrations.
(09:53:10) (docyabut) how?
(09:53:14) (Cris) EC mentions them in his readings
(09:53:39) (Cris) Your body and stones are both made up of atoms
(09:53:41) (docyabut) i know he did
(09:53:42) (Bill) alineing of the energy flows
(09:53:47) (Cris) they both vibrate
(09:53:48) (ernie) it sounds electrical to me
(09:54:23) (Cris) certain stones vibrate on frequencies that reasonate with certain people
(09:54:43) (Al-A) He also recommended strong magnets for clearing the radioactive appliance.
(09:54:47) (docyabut) if it really was that easy why doenst medical use them ?
(09:54:48) (Cris) if they are compatible they will aid or speed healing
(09:55:09) (Al-A) And for clearing negativity which was part of cancer cells.
(09:55:47) (Cris) For the same reason they don't accept known herbal cures
(09:55:50) (Bill) well doc whether they work or not they don't kill as many people a yr. as misdiagnosed drugs unless shot from a sling
(09:55:54) (WalksInSpirit) Circuit boards in electronics are made up of basically rocks. Our bodies are no different. We have an energy flow. The use of stones and minerals to correct improper energy flow is logical, and as old as time itself.
(09:56:00) (ernie) yes neg and positives and other forces we dont know it alines it all for good hopefully
(09:56:03) (Cris) It takes away from the mystique of medicine
(09:56:05) (ernie) bad for buss
(09:56:24) (Al-A) Stones can help Attune one towards Forces That Heal.
(09:56:30) (ernie) look at all the drug store there are 3 to 4 on evry coner in town
(09:56:31) (Al-A) Stones don't heal.
(09:56:37) (docyabut) canser cells are just like cells that make a baby and stop however canser cells keep on growing
(09:56:47) (Cris) In underdeveloped countries where people don't have access to doctors they use alternative medicines and they work
(09:56:49) (Al-A) There is but One Source opf Healing according to Cayce.
(09:57:19) (Cris) It is God's energy coming through that stone that promotes the healing
(09:57:27) (docyabut) we can divide a cell clone a cell but haven figure out howto stop a cell from growing
(09:57:29) (ernie) self with a little help
(09:57:40) (Cris) Stones and crystals used by healers are programmed for that purpose
(09:57:44) (ernie) i think faith is key
(09:57:53) (Al-A) It is the stone ascting as a helpmeet to Attune you towards God.
(09:58:06) (Cris) I think so
(09:58:09) (Bill) Cayce saids all healing comes from within
(09:58:28) (Cris) It also depends on the person
(09:58:29) (ernie) yes
(09:58:41) (Cris) Some peoplelike to be illbecause it brings them attention
(09:58:48) (ernie) he cured his wife of tb
(09:58:59) (ernie) terburculosis
(09:59:07) (Cris) others want to be healed because they want to go out and live their lives
(09:59:10) (ernie) his son eye sight
(09:59:25) (Al-A) The Christ Consciousness is the Only Source of Healing for a physical or mental body. Cayce 69-4
(09:59:27) (Bill) brothers?
(09:59:33) (WalksInSpirit) My Dad always said there is a cure in nature for every illness man has. That Creator put the cures in nature for us.
(09:59:40) (ernie) he st the first knee with a nail
(09:59:42) (Cris) In many cases it is the will of the person that determines the healing
(10:00:06) (ernie) sonds like faith to me
(10:00:11) (Al-A) That is why Cayce gave what stone might work for one, may not for another.
(10:00:16) (Cris) The reason for cleaning stones is that they vibrate and often match the pulsation or vibrate in tune with the person who had been keeping or using them. That energy may not be compatible with yours.
(10:00:17) (docyabut) what do you think of stem cell research they want to pass
(10:00:23) (Al-A) If the stone itself healed it would heal all.
(10:00:41) (Cris) Some crystals do heal themselves
(10:00:56) (Cris) They break and grow back together
(10:00:57) (Al-A) But as Cayce gave it is likened to a radio station out of tune.
(10:00:57) (WalksInSpirit) Not if we each operate at different frequencies, which we do.
(10:01:13) (Al-A) No two staitons are out of tune aliker.
(10:01:29) (Al-A) Each need a different pull to bring them back in tune.,
(10:01:59) (Cris) Each crystal reasonates at a certain frequency that is why there ismore than one stone that can heal a specific illness not everyone is on the same wave length
(10:02:47) (WalksInSpirit) Yep, Cris!
(10:02:59) (Cris) I think stem cells that are harvestedfrom umbilical blood or a natural source could help people with certain degenerative diseases Doc
(10:03:32) (Cris) Especially people that may have Parkinsonson's
(10:03:47) (Al-A) All lealing of every nature is the changing of the vibration from within, the attuning of the Divine withine the living tissusues of the body to Creative Energies. Cayce 1967-1
(10:04:07) (Cris) That is true
(10:05:00) (Al-A) So the stones don't heal, but they can help to Attune you to the Forces within That Can.
(10:05:28) (ernie) i th in k that natural in healing and in life in general is a better choise is that we get lazy and want a pill to fix everything that we loose sight and focouse
(10:05:30) (Cris) That's why they are called stones for attunement
(10:05:36) (Al-A) Yes
(10:05:52) (Cris) Using stones for healing is like using reiki and healing touch
(10:05:58) (ernie) and the pill is for sale
(10:06:06) (ernie) natural is free
(10:06:12) (Al-A) Yes
(10:06:15) (Cris) It is the connecton to the divine source not the source itself
(10:06:22) (Al-A) Can be.
(10:06:42) (ernie) natural living would promote goodness kindness and in tune with the cosmos and us
(10:06:46) (ernie) simple
(10:07:03) (Cris) Used correctly they can help a person who has the will to want to get better
(10:07:10) (Al-A) Yes
(10:07:12) (ernie) yes
(10:07:30) (Cris) Has anyone here had anyone use stones to help them?
(10:08:06) (merri) yes
(10:08:19) (Cris) Tell us about it Merri
(10:08:23) (merri) I use them in meditation
(10:08:40) (Al-A) Been using them for 45 years.
(10:08:41) (merri) my sister is just learning to use them for healing
(10:08:44) (ernie) no but i have frinds that do and speake of it one is a eiki mastere
(10:09:31) (ernie) darnel is his name i over herd some talk with a frind i can ask
(10:09:43) (Cris) There is a class on Healing Stones in Orange Beach, AL Feb. 2-4
(10:09:59) (Herutata) they're good to have around
(10:10:11) (Cris) It is being taught by Dr. Shelley Kaehr
(10:10:11) (merri) I was telling her about that one Cris
(10:10:12) (Al-A) The Divine within is always the Best Teacher.
(10:10:34) (Cris) It focuses on the EC readings
(10:10:51) (Herutata) Yes
(10:10:56) (Cris) I plan to go and I'll report on it when I get back
(10:10:59) (ernie) a1a is that like the road a1a
(10:11:01) (Al-A) \Cayce usually would only give the first step in regards to stones.
(10:11:29) (Al-A) ]If they asked for more they were told to apply what has been given and the next step will be given.
(10:11:49) (Al-A) Of course he meant within.
(10:12:09) (Cris) When we are attracted to a particular stone it could be that you need that in your life
(10:12:16) (Al-A) Yes Cris
(10:13:09) (WalksInSpirit) I have always loved Quartz Crystals.
(10:13:23) (Cris) I have an extensive mineral and fossil collection but I didn't get into the metaphysicalproperties of them until about ten years ago
(10:13:28) (WalksInSpirit) I have a very nice, large Quartz point.
(10:13:56) (ernie) i have brown eyes
(10:14:00) (ernie) lol
(10:14:16) (ernie) get it ?
(10:14:22) (Cris) What I find is interesting is that I am a condult for stones
(10:14:37) (Cris) yes Ernie
(10:14:43) (WalksInSpirit) I have some smaller Quartz points, but that one is very special to me.
(10:15:09) (ernie) yes you are cris when you talk about them you can tell
(10:15:15) (Cris) I'll feel compelled to buy certain stones at shows or rock swaps and I;ll later meet the person who is supposed to have them
(10:15:47) (WalksInSpirit) I used to buy them wholesale sometimes and wrap them in silver wire and make necklaces out of them. I never drilled them, cause I always felt it hurt them to do so.
(10:15:54) (Cris) I will know with certainty that is the true owner of the stone
(10:16:15) (Cris) I don't drill mine either
(10:16:16) (merri) koooool
(10:16:18) (ernie) that is cool
(10:16:29) (Al-A) You need to cultivate your Gifts.
(10:16:34) (ernie) and itrestin g
(10:16:39) (Cris) I shouldn't say owner but person meant for the stone
(10:16:46) (ernie) k
(10:16:56) (WalksInSpirit) And they miss their Crystal families anyhow, when the individual points are seperated like that. You can feel that from them, too.
(10:17:14) (merri) I thought it interesting some stones shouldn't be worn next to the skin
(10:17:42) (Cris) Some can be it depends on which stone and the purpose it is used for
(10:17:58) (Al-A) Prayer, meditation, application is always the best teacher.
(10:18:02) (Al-A) Yes Cris
(10:18:12) (Cris) They can be effective carried in a pocket or worn in a pouch
(10:18:20) (Al-A) Yes.
(10:18:42) (Al-A) And in the right combinations their strength seems multiplied.
(10:19:00) (ernie) i need one for my lower back its been hurting i need to get goood and work out i need a stone to better heal m e
(10:19:25) (Al-A) Bent over rows...an exercise.
(10:19:35) (ernie) knees to im gettin older
(10:19:37) (ernie) lol
(10:20:03) (Cris) People really need to experiment with stones. There are a number of books on the market that can guide you in your selection
(10:20:25) (Al-A) Best is through Divine Guidence.
(10:20:32) (Al-A) Way better then any book.
(10:20:34) (ernie) a hottie would work too
(10:20:38) (ernie) lol
(10:20:43) (Cris) cleanse them then hold that stone in your hand and ask it if it is willing to help you
(10:21:08) (Al-A) Develops a Good Raport with God as well
(10:21:16) (Cris) True A!-A but some people need step by step instructions
(10:21:24) (WalksInSpirit) I have a special Elk hide bag I made for my large Quartz point.
(10:21:33) (Cris) If the stone is right for you you will feel a warmth
(10:21:34) (Al-A) everyone has them.
(10:21:47) (Al-A) Step By Step Instructions.
(10:21:50) (docyabut) what stone would help vistulating crohs
(10:22:01) (ernie) good point cris ill remember that
(10:22:01) (Al-A) From The Perfect Source.
(10:22:10) (Al-A) Free of Charge.
(10:22:17) (Al-A) Easily Accesible.
(10:22:27) (Al-A) Always Available.
(10:22:30) (Cris) If it is not it may feel cool or you may feel nothing. If it is you will get a definite feeling
(10:22:36) (ernie) thats me
(10:22:56) (ernie) k\
(10:22:57) (Cris) Not every stone if meant for every person
(10:23:04) (Al-A) True.
(10:23:35) (Cris) I have a wonderful quartz crystal with calcite growing inside
(10:23:58) (Cris) It brightens any room I put it in
(10:23:59) (mark) what is calcite?
(10:24:06) (Al-A) If you ask for Guidence in regards to a stone that will help to attune you towards God......you can bet It Will Be Given.
(10:24:10) (Cris) It is a common mineral
(10:24:24) (mark) ty
(10:24:37) (docyabut) they do have those wraps that contain seed or stones that heat up whats in those wraps?
(10:25:00) (Cris) Rememberthat your stones don't have to be perfect or expensive to work
(10:25:07) (ernie) cemichals
(10:25:10) (Al-A) True.
(10:25:39) (merri) and if they are meant for you they will follow you around!!
(10:25:41) (WalksInSpirit) The automatic ones, Doc?
(10:25:52) (Cris) If someone tries to tell you you need topay a huge amount for a stone to clear you walk away
(10:26:00) (mark) do you work with programing crystals?
(10:26:05) (Cris) It means they are fakes of the worst kind
(10:26:19) (ernie) like then stone that drag out west
(10:26:23) (ernie) in the san d
(10:26:24) (WalksInSpirit) If they are automatic, like what hunters use, then it's prolly a mixture of lime and purified water. It gives off a thermal reaction.
(10:26:26) (Al-A) Some stones can be expensive though....
(10:26:40) (Al-A) But what you need is always available to you.
(10:26:49) (Cris) I program my own by asking if they are willing to work in harmony with God's energy
(10:27:09) (Al-A) Usually free of charge if your effort is sincere.
(10:27:28) (Cris) I give a lot away
(10:27:45) (Al-A) I'm sure Bill has given away about as much as he has kept over the years.
(10:27:48) (Cris) I know dealers who give away stones when they know it is needed
(10:27:56) (Al-A) Yes and others as well.
(10:28:40) (Al-A) I too have collected many types which are valuble towards attunment and give away a fair amount.
(10:29:25) (mark) i gave away a rose quartz arrow head that i found
(10:29:37) (Cris) That's what life is all about the sharing because in reality we are all connected. What you give away isn't lost to you it's just down the chain a little way
(10:29:41) (ernie) thats big
(10:29:43) (Al-A) Sounds pretty cool mark
(10:30:17) (mark) yeah i miss that one
(10:30:18) (ernie) yes cris
(10:30:47) (Herutata) Peace Will Abound,climb aboard
(10:31:18) (Cris) It is getting late so it is open chat for the rest of the evening
(10:31:48) (ernie) thank you cris very informitive
(10:31:55) (mark) thanks for chat Cris
(10:32:22) (WalksInSpirit) Thank you Cris! Awesome chat! I enjoyed it very much!
(10:32:35) (Bill) TY Cris lots of good info as usual
(10:36:13) (Cris) Blessings all
(09:29:19) (Cris) Lord and Protector of all please be with us on our spiritual journey as we seek a higher plane of thought. Let us see opportunity to work in your grace as we come together to seek peace in this world. Amen
(09:29:30) (Bill) Amen
(09:29:33) (merri) Amen
(09:29:37) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:29:40) (Raleigh) Amen
(09:30:16) (docyabut) what do you think the smell was in NY?
(09:30:46) (Cris) I'm not sure it could have been a type of methane
(09:31:01) (Cris) They think it came from NJ but it might not have
(09:31:05) (WalksInSpirit) New Jersey. ;-) Just kiddin
(09:31:14) (merri) LOL
(09:31:29) (WalksInSpirit) I knew you'd like that, Merri! LOL
(09:31:30) (docyabut) well they dont seen to know where it came from
(09:31:34) (Raleigh) you guys /:)
(09:31:55) (Raleigh) so cris has a special study lined up tonight //
(09:32:05) (Cris) I had a new EC bookon stones but it has vanished I hope I didn't put it in a donation box
(09:32:24) (Cris) I am doing a short on the history of stones in healing
(09:33:11) (docyabut) could it be a gas bubble commining up from under the water under the earth
(09:33:33) (Cris) It could have been gas from the ocean Doc
(09:33:41) (Cris) there are underwater vents
(09:33:48) (Cris) NYC is a coastal city
(09:35:20) (Cris) In every culture flint and stones were used as tools to make fire
(09:35:40) (Raleigh) i really shouldnt be late / appt with the bishop / lds no smokin plan im gonna try
(09:35:51) (Raleigh) java to o
(09:35:54) (Raleigh) man
(09:36:02) (Cris) This is a brief outline on rocks throughout history
(09:36:07) (Cris) Early man used rocks as tools in an effort to forge a better life by making projectile points for hunting and axes for easing his workload. In time people began to carve stones using them for decoration as well as a symbol of power.
(09:36:09) (Raleigh) sorry i got to miss class cris //
(09:37:28) (docyabut) they say natural gas doen`snt smell it the additive that are added tha smell such as sulfer as on however i think it cound be natural sulfer from the earth mix in
(09:37:50) (Cris) I think you are right Doc
(09:38:07) (Cris) I had a course in underwater geology more years ago than I care to count
(09:38:44) (Cris) Over years of observation medicine people, sages and alchemists began to track the effect of some of these minerals and metals as people used them. They noted that some had a sickly effect, those are known today as radioactive minerals.
(09:38:58) (docyabut) dont they say that NY sits on a volcano
(09:39:36) (Cris) It sits near an old pluton and I think what is supposed to be an inactive vent
(09:40:03) (Cris) If that vent is becoming active it could account for the smell yesterday
(09:40:29) (Moira) wow your serious Cris?
(09:40:37) (Cris) yes
(09:40:48) (Cris) I know a lot about geology
(09:40:51) (MERLIN) what vent crkis?
(09:41:21) (docyabut) the dead birds in auston are stange to differents kinds of brids that all drop dead would not be a flu
(09:41:29) (Moira) a volcano smells like gas?
(09:41:29) (Cris) there are old volcanic vents up and down the east coast
(09:42:00) (Cris) Not usually we were discussing the strange smell in NYC yesterday
(09:42:09) (MERLIN) is there a place near you ? the vent that is?
(09:42:13) (Cris) I'm thinking the bird thing could be natural
(09:42:24) (docyabut) we know the earth is heating up and we could have more stange things happening
(09:42:47) (ernie) ok hey if their old vent there still vents are allwise inactive till they come active
(09:42:56) (Moira) what does snaglepuss say ?
(09:42:58) (Cris) Because of the strange weather birds are feeding on buds and berries that could be toxic at this time of year
(09:43:37) (Cris) Birds are also known to get drunk on fermented berries and fly into windows
(09:44:08) (Cris) I'm guessing there was something they might have fed on that wasn't good for them
(09:44:21) (Cris) They also noticed that others seemed to exert a helpful or even healing influence. In enlightened societies written records were kept of these changes.
(09:45:12) (docyabut) they should know the results on those birds but i haven heard anything on what they found
(09:45:12) (ernie) they fly int windows any way there was somthing down town in wilmington that was causing a bunch of birds to fly into some window i cant recall exactlty what it was
(09:45:44) (Cris) Civilizations all over the world used natural hot springs as curative baths. It isn’t known in some cases if the minerals in the springs held the cure or the steam, which often relieved congestion and body aches. Even today people visit those springs often for the same reason as their ancestors did they feel better after soaking in the mineral springs.
(09:46:11) (Cris) They also noticed that certain places seemed to have a power or force when visited. These were often called spiritual or power spots and their locations were often kept secret.
(09:46:12) (docyabut) wasnt that in the movie CORE?
(09:46:30) (Cris) I don't think I sawthat movie
(09:46:51) (ernie) ? i dont know i just recall it was this past year
(09:47:09) (ernie) they fixed it
(09:47:09) (Cris) The shamans, healers, medicine people and sages working with stones noticed that the stones used for one person often didn’t work well for another unless they were cleaned and cleared. So they developed different techniques for clearing the stones.
(09:47:31) (ernie) ?
(09:47:37) (Cris) One way was to lay them out in sunlight. Some minerals, such as amethyst, faded in time from too much strong light. They also used the light of a full moon. It was thought that the moon energy cleansed and recharged the stones.
(09:47:48) (ernie) so the stone absorbed the ailment
(09:47:49) (ernie) like
(09:48:04) (Cris) yes Ernie
(09:48:10) (Cris) That is a method used by some healers today.
(09:48:18) (ernie) cool
(09:49:17) (Cris) Another method for clearing stones was sea salt. The stone to be cleared was immersed in sea salt or sometimes in salt water. The crystal is placed point down in the salt overnight or in ideal conditions for 24 hours sometimes longer.
(09:49:46) (Cris) If you are attempting to heal with new crystals you have acquired you should cleanse or clear them before using them.
(09:50:12) (Cris) Other clearing methods were to put smaller stones on large clusters, or to immerse them in a stream of running water in a mesh bag or to bury the in herbs or the earth for a period of time usually 24 hours.
(09:50:43) (Cris) When you bury stones, and that method does work, remember where you buried them
(09:50:55) (merri) what are they clearing the stones of Cris?
(09:50:57) (Cris) I've lost a few I didn't keep track of
(09:51:27) (Cris) negative energy, old energy and in some cases illness when a stone is used for healing
(09:51:50) (merri) so they should be cleansed after using?
(09:51:54) (Cris) The reason for cleaning a stone is the same reason you clean your home or clothes
(09:51:56) (WalksInSpirit) Cris, I have used the light of a full moon to cleanse my large crystal point.
(09:52:13) (docyabut) cris do you really think stones can heal?
(09:52:16) (Al-A) Cayce gave the best way was with the use of a strong magnet.
(09:52:26) (Cris) That's a good method. I clear stones when I use them on other people
(09:52:33) (ernie) i do i think so
(09:52:41) (Cris) They can speed healing
(09:52:49) (docyabut) is there really any proof?
(09:52:54) (ernie) stone and metals and crystals
(09:52:59) (Cris) they can help balance the body so it can heal itself
(09:53:06) (Al-A) To clear stones of negative vibrations.
(09:53:10) (docyabut) how?
(09:53:14) (Cris) EC mentions them in his readings
(09:53:39) (Cris) Your body and stones are both made up of atoms
(09:53:41) (docyabut) i know he did
(09:53:42) (Bill) alineing of the energy flows
(09:53:47) (Cris) they both vibrate
(09:53:48) (ernie) it sounds electrical to me
(09:54:23) (Cris) certain stones vibrate on frequencies that reasonate with certain people
(09:54:43) (Al-A) He also recommended strong magnets for clearing the radioactive appliance.
(09:54:47) (docyabut) if it really was that easy why doenst medical use them ?
(09:54:48) (Cris) if they are compatible they will aid or speed healing
(09:55:09) (Al-A) And for clearing negativity which was part of cancer cells.
(09:55:47) (Cris) For the same reason they don't accept known herbal cures
(09:55:50) (Bill) well doc whether they work or not they don't kill as many people a yr. as misdiagnosed drugs unless shot from a sling
(09:55:54) (WalksInSpirit) Circuit boards in electronics are made up of basically rocks. Our bodies are no different. We have an energy flow. The use of stones and minerals to correct improper energy flow is logical, and as old as time itself.
(09:56:00) (ernie) yes neg and positives and other forces we dont know it alines it all for good hopefully
(09:56:03) (Cris) It takes away from the mystique of medicine
(09:56:05) (ernie) bad for buss
(09:56:24) (Al-A) Stones can help Attune one towards Forces That Heal.
(09:56:30) (ernie) look at all the drug store there are 3 to 4 on evry coner in town
(09:56:31) (Al-A) Stones don't heal.
(09:56:37) (docyabut) canser cells are just like cells that make a baby and stop however canser cells keep on growing
(09:56:47) (Cris) In underdeveloped countries where people don't have access to doctors they use alternative medicines and they work
(09:56:49) (Al-A) There is but One Source opf Healing according to Cayce.
(09:57:19) (Cris) It is God's energy coming through that stone that promotes the healing
(09:57:27) (docyabut) we can divide a cell clone a cell but haven figure out howto stop a cell from growing
(09:57:29) (ernie) self with a little help
(09:57:40) (Cris) Stones and crystals used by healers are programmed for that purpose
(09:57:44) (ernie) i think faith is key
(09:57:53) (Al-A) It is the stone ascting as a helpmeet to Attune you towards God.
(09:58:06) (Cris) I think so
(09:58:09) (Bill) Cayce saids all healing comes from within
(09:58:28) (Cris) It also depends on the person
(09:58:29) (ernie) yes
(09:58:41) (Cris) Some peoplelike to be illbecause it brings them attention
(09:58:48) (ernie) he cured his wife of tb
(09:58:59) (ernie) terburculosis
(09:59:07) (Cris) others want to be healed because they want to go out and live their lives
(09:59:10) (ernie) his son eye sight
(09:59:25) (Al-A) The Christ Consciousness is the Only Source of Healing for a physical or mental body. Cayce 69-4
(09:59:27) (Bill) brothers?
(09:59:33) (WalksInSpirit) My Dad always said there is a cure in nature for every illness man has. That Creator put the cures in nature for us.
(09:59:40) (ernie) he st the first knee with a nail
(09:59:42) (Cris) In many cases it is the will of the person that determines the healing
(10:00:06) (ernie) sonds like faith to me
(10:00:11) (Al-A) That is why Cayce gave what stone might work for one, may not for another.
(10:00:16) (Cris) The reason for cleaning stones is that they vibrate and often match the pulsation or vibrate in tune with the person who had been keeping or using them. That energy may not be compatible with yours.
(10:00:17) (docyabut) what do you think of stem cell research they want to pass
(10:00:23) (Al-A) If the stone itself healed it would heal all.
(10:00:41) (Cris) Some crystals do heal themselves
(10:00:56) (Cris) They break and grow back together
(10:00:57) (Al-A) But as Cayce gave it is likened to a radio station out of tune.
(10:00:57) (WalksInSpirit) Not if we each operate at different frequencies, which we do.
(10:01:13) (Al-A) No two staitons are out of tune aliker.
(10:01:29) (Al-A) Each need a different pull to bring them back in tune.,
(10:01:59) (Cris) Each crystal reasonates at a certain frequency that is why there ismore than one stone that can heal a specific illness not everyone is on the same wave length
(10:02:47) (WalksInSpirit) Yep, Cris!
(10:02:59) (Cris) I think stem cells that are harvestedfrom umbilical blood or a natural source could help people with certain degenerative diseases Doc
(10:03:32) (Cris) Especially people that may have Parkinsonson's
(10:03:47) (Al-A) All lealing of every nature is the changing of the vibration from within, the attuning of the Divine withine the living tissusues of the body to Creative Energies. Cayce 1967-1
(10:04:07) (Cris) That is true
(10:05:00) (Al-A) So the stones don't heal, but they can help to Attune you to the Forces within That Can.
(10:05:28) (ernie) i th in k that natural in healing and in life in general is a better choise is that we get lazy and want a pill to fix everything that we loose sight and focouse
(10:05:30) (Cris) That's why they are called stones for attunement
(10:05:36) (Al-A) Yes
(10:05:52) (Cris) Using stones for healing is like using reiki and healing touch
(10:05:58) (ernie) and the pill is for sale
(10:06:06) (ernie) natural is free
(10:06:12) (Al-A) Yes
(10:06:15) (Cris) It is the connecton to the divine source not the source itself
(10:06:22) (Al-A) Can be.
(10:06:42) (ernie) natural living would promote goodness kindness and in tune with the cosmos and us
(10:06:46) (ernie) simple
(10:07:03) (Cris) Used correctly they can help a person who has the will to want to get better
(10:07:10) (Al-A) Yes
(10:07:12) (ernie) yes
(10:07:30) (Cris) Has anyone here had anyone use stones to help them?
(10:08:06) (merri) yes
(10:08:19) (Cris) Tell us about it Merri
(10:08:23) (merri) I use them in meditation
(10:08:40) (Al-A) Been using them for 45 years.
(10:08:41) (merri) my sister is just learning to use them for healing
(10:08:44) (ernie) no but i have frinds that do and speake of it one is a eiki mastere
(10:09:31) (ernie) darnel is his name i over herd some talk with a frind i can ask
(10:09:43) (Cris) There is a class on Healing Stones in Orange Beach, AL Feb. 2-4
(10:09:59) (Herutata) they're good to have around
(10:10:11) (Cris) It is being taught by Dr. Shelley Kaehr
(10:10:11) (merri) I was telling her about that one Cris
(10:10:12) (Al-A) The Divine within is always the Best Teacher.
(10:10:34) (Cris) It focuses on the EC readings
(10:10:51) (Herutata) Yes
(10:10:56) (Cris) I plan to go and I'll report on it when I get back
(10:10:59) (ernie) a1a is that like the road a1a
(10:11:01) (Al-A) \Cayce usually would only give the first step in regards to stones.
(10:11:29) (Al-A) ]If they asked for more they were told to apply what has been given and the next step will be given.
(10:11:49) (Al-A) Of course he meant within.
(10:12:09) (Cris) When we are attracted to a particular stone it could be that you need that in your life
(10:12:16) (Al-A) Yes Cris
(10:13:09) (WalksInSpirit) I have always loved Quartz Crystals.
(10:13:23) (Cris) I have an extensive mineral and fossil collection but I didn't get into the metaphysicalproperties of them until about ten years ago
(10:13:28) (WalksInSpirit) I have a very nice, large Quartz point.
(10:13:56) (ernie) i have brown eyes
(10:14:00) (ernie) lol
(10:14:16) (ernie) get it ?
(10:14:22) (Cris) What I find is interesting is that I am a condult for stones
(10:14:37) (Cris) yes Ernie
(10:14:43) (WalksInSpirit) I have some smaller Quartz points, but that one is very special to me.
(10:15:09) (ernie) yes you are cris when you talk about them you can tell
(10:15:15) (Cris) I'll feel compelled to buy certain stones at shows or rock swaps and I;ll later meet the person who is supposed to have them
(10:15:47) (WalksInSpirit) I used to buy them wholesale sometimes and wrap them in silver wire and make necklaces out of them. I never drilled them, cause I always felt it hurt them to do so.
(10:15:54) (Cris) I will know with certainty that is the true owner of the stone
(10:16:15) (Cris) I don't drill mine either
(10:16:16) (merri) koooool
(10:16:18) (ernie) that is cool
(10:16:29) (Al-A) You need to cultivate your Gifts.
(10:16:34) (ernie) and itrestin g
(10:16:39) (Cris) I shouldn't say owner but person meant for the stone
(10:16:46) (ernie) k
(10:16:56) (WalksInSpirit) And they miss their Crystal families anyhow, when the individual points are seperated like that. You can feel that from them, too.
(10:17:14) (merri) I thought it interesting some stones shouldn't be worn next to the skin
(10:17:42) (Cris) Some can be it depends on which stone and the purpose it is used for
(10:17:58) (Al-A) Prayer, meditation, application is always the best teacher.
(10:18:02) (Al-A) Yes Cris
(10:18:12) (Cris) They can be effective carried in a pocket or worn in a pouch
(10:18:20) (Al-A) Yes.
(10:18:42) (Al-A) And in the right combinations their strength seems multiplied.
(10:19:00) (ernie) i need one for my lower back its been hurting i need to get goood and work out i need a stone to better heal m e
(10:19:25) (Al-A) Bent over rows...an exercise.
(10:19:35) (ernie) knees to im gettin older
(10:19:37) (ernie) lol
(10:20:03) (Cris) People really need to experiment with stones. There are a number of books on the market that can guide you in your selection
(10:20:25) (Al-A) Best is through Divine Guidence.
(10:20:32) (Al-A) Way better then any book.
(10:20:34) (ernie) a hottie would work too
(10:20:38) (ernie) lol
(10:20:43) (Cris) cleanse them then hold that stone in your hand and ask it if it is willing to help you
(10:21:08) (Al-A) Develops a Good Raport with God as well
(10:21:16) (Cris) True A!-A but some people need step by step instructions
(10:21:24) (WalksInSpirit) I have a special Elk hide bag I made for my large Quartz point.
(10:21:33) (Cris) If the stone is right for you you will feel a warmth
(10:21:34) (Al-A) everyone has them.
(10:21:47) (Al-A) Step By Step Instructions.
(10:21:50) (docyabut) what stone would help vistulating crohs
(10:22:01) (ernie) good point cris ill remember that
(10:22:01) (Al-A) From The Perfect Source.
(10:22:10) (Al-A) Free of Charge.
(10:22:17) (Al-A) Easily Accesible.
(10:22:27) (Al-A) Always Available.
(10:22:30) (Cris) If it is not it may feel cool or you may feel nothing. If it is you will get a definite feeling
(10:22:36) (ernie) thats me
(10:22:56) (ernie) k\
(10:22:57) (Cris) Not every stone if meant for every person
(10:23:04) (Al-A) True.
(10:23:35) (Cris) I have a wonderful quartz crystal with calcite growing inside
(10:23:58) (Cris) It brightens any room I put it in
(10:23:59) (mark) what is calcite?
(10:24:06) (Al-A) If you ask for Guidence in regards to a stone that will help to attune you towards God......you can bet It Will Be Given.
(10:24:10) (Cris) It is a common mineral
(10:24:24) (mark) ty
(10:24:37) (docyabut) they do have those wraps that contain seed or stones that heat up whats in those wraps?
(10:25:00) (Cris) Rememberthat your stones don't have to be perfect or expensive to work
(10:25:07) (ernie) cemichals
(10:25:10) (Al-A) True.
(10:25:39) (merri) and if they are meant for you they will follow you around!!
(10:25:41) (WalksInSpirit) The automatic ones, Doc?
(10:25:52) (Cris) If someone tries to tell you you need topay a huge amount for a stone to clear you walk away
(10:26:00) (mark) do you work with programing crystals?
(10:26:05) (Cris) It means they are fakes of the worst kind
(10:26:19) (ernie) like then stone that drag out west
(10:26:23) (ernie) in the san d
(10:26:24) (WalksInSpirit) If they are automatic, like what hunters use, then it's prolly a mixture of lime and purified water. It gives off a thermal reaction.
(10:26:26) (Al-A) Some stones can be expensive though....
(10:26:40) (Al-A) But what you need is always available to you.
(10:26:49) (Cris) I program my own by asking if they are willing to work in harmony with God's energy
(10:27:09) (Al-A) Usually free of charge if your effort is sincere.
(10:27:28) (Cris) I give a lot away
(10:27:45) (Al-A) I'm sure Bill has given away about as much as he has kept over the years.
(10:27:48) (Cris) I know dealers who give away stones when they know it is needed
(10:27:56) (Al-A) Yes and others as well.
(10:28:40) (Al-A) I too have collected many types which are valuble towards attunment and give away a fair amount.
(10:29:25) (mark) i gave away a rose quartz arrow head that i found
(10:29:37) (Cris) That's what life is all about the sharing because in reality we are all connected. What you give away isn't lost to you it's just down the chain a little way
(10:29:41) (ernie) thats big
(10:29:43) (Al-A) Sounds pretty cool mark
(10:30:17) (mark) yeah i miss that one
(10:30:18) (ernie) yes cris
(10:30:47) (Herutata) Peace Will Abound,climb aboard
(10:31:18) (Cris) It is getting late so it is open chat for the rest of the evening
(10:31:48) (ernie) thank you cris very informitive
(10:31:55) (mark) thanks for chat Cris
(10:32:22) (WalksInSpirit) Thank you Cris! Awesome chat! I enjoyed it very much!
(10:32:35) (Bill) TY Cris lots of good info as usual
(10:36:13) (Cris) Blessings all
