Post by WalksInSpirit on Nov 21, 2006 22:50:47 GMT -5
Scarabs/Topaz: 11-21-06
Cris says: Tonight we are covering the last two minerals covered in Gem and Stones
Cris says: Next week we will start on how to select stones for ourselves
Cris says: Lord and Protector of all please be with us on our spiritual journey as we seek a higher plane of thought. Let us see opportunity to work in your grace as we come together to seek peace in this world. Amen
merri says: Amen
Blu says: Amen
Rosie says: Awoman
ron says: amen
Cris says: Welcome to Healing Stones. The introduction of this chat is based on the Edgar Cayce readings complied in the book, Gems and Stones.
Cris says: Keep in mind that this lesson can be interrupted if you have any questions you want answered or is you are confused about anything that is said. This study is taken directly from the book, Gem and Stones, based on the Edgar Cayce readings. It is the starting point for this series on healing with stones.
true_eagle says: im holding my crystal
Cris says: The first stone covered tonight is the Scarab
ron says: i bet she enjoys you holding like that mike :)
true_eagle says: yea
Cris says: scarab is not s stone; rather it is the engraving of a certain of beetle, Scarabaeus sacer, upon a stone.
Cris says: This presupposes a considerable development of civilization, since the art of engraving on precious stones offers many mechanical difficulties and thus requires a high degree of artistic and mechanical skill.
Cris says: It is true that the earliest engraved stones the Babylonian cylinders and the Egyptian scarabs, were both designed to serve an eminently practical purpose as well.
Cris says: Namely, that of seals: but in a great number of instances these primitive seals were looked upon as endowed with a talismanic power, and were worn on the persons as talismans.
Rosie says: what is the purpose of a seal?
Cris says: With the scarab you also have sort of a placebo effect
merri says: a means of identification in many civilizations
Cris says: It is a focusing point for the mind of the person using it
Rosie says: didn't know that!
Cris says: yes it is and actutally goes back farther than the Egyptians
Cris says: scarabs have been found in Incan civilizations too
Cris says: not many but some were in ancient burial tombs
Cris says: They were found in the graves from other civilizations
Rosie says: what's the significance of the scarab? Or am I getting ahead of you?
Rosie says: other than as a seal
Cris says: I'm going back to that now
Rosie says: check
Cris says: A curious symbolism introduced the Egyptians to find in this beetle an emblem of the world of fatherhood and man.
Cris says: The round ball wherein the eggs were deposited typified the world and the Egyptians thought the scarabaei were all males, this especially signified the male principal in generation, becoming types of fatherhood and man.
Cris says: At the same time only the full grown beetles were observed, it was believed that these creatures represented a regeneration or reincarnation, since it was not realized the eggs or larval or pupa stages had anything to do with the generation of the beetle…
Cris says: While, however, this was the popular view, it seems unlikely that such close observers as were the more cultured Egyptians should have been entirely unfamiliar with the real genesis of the Scarabaeus sacer; but in this case, also there would have been no difficulty in finding it emblematic of immortality.
Cris says: The larval stage might well signify the moral life; the pupa stage the intermediate period represented by the mummy…. And lastly the fully developed beetle could be regarded as a type of rebirth into everlasting life…
Cris says: Scarabs are frequently engraved with the hieroglyph anch, meaning ‘life’ and ha, meaning ‘increase of power’… The emblem of stability…(tet) is also employed… (Kunz, pp. 115-116) An exhaustive treatment of scarabs is given in Ward (1902)
Cris says: Reading Excerpt:
Cris says: In the one before this we find (the entity) in that land known as the Egyptian. The entity was then in the household of the priest and those that waited on the companion of the priest in the name Is-Eli
Cris says: In this experience the entity rose to power, position, place, fame, through the experiences in that period as related to the various manners of praise in music, in art and especially that of placing stones.
Cris says: In the present the innate desire to feel precious stones to compare same to watch the change of color in same, is seen from this experience. These will make for much judgement to the entity and the beryl and the scarab should be a portion of the entity’s dress, ever; either worn as the amulet, the ring, or such will make for a safety in the entity’s present experience.
Cris says: Reading 1719-1 Male age 10
Cris says: Born 6/19/20
Cris says: The Egyptians thought of the scarab as being sacred but recent scarabs unearthed show they were not the only group who focused on them
Cris says: If anyone finds any information on recent excavations please let me know
Blu says: OK Cris
Blu says: you have my interest peaked with this
Blu says: makes it sound Atlantean
Cris says: I discovered it by accident last year at a gem and mineral show
Blu says: Maybe even a remnant of Mu
Cris says: one of the dealers had some articles on what they were calling misplaced artifacts
Blu says: interesting indeed
true_eagle says: those crystal skulls.. facinate me'
Cris says: At this point we don't know how they were used by other civilizations
Cris says: They were all scupted from a single piece of quartz and they have no polishing marks on them
true_eagle says: yea... wierd
Cris says: So are some of the other gem and stone carvings found
Blu says: It makes me wonder if they grew them that way
true_eagle says: me thinks... aliens
Cris says: They can etch designs in quartz crystals with lasers now
Blu says: gives new meaning to crystal light beings?
Blu says: would that not leave some kind of trace if they had used that Cris?
Cris says: It is likely that the technology used back then hasn't been rediscovered yet
true_eagle says: yes
Blu says: I gave my sis one of those last year for Christmas
Cris says: If you follow Bill's class
Cris says: For all our "modern" technology we are still pretty primitive
Rosie says: I'll bet crystals were used somehow
(10:00:30) (Cris) Topaz
(10:01:08) (Cris) Its hardness is an eight and its luster is vitreous. Topaz occurs in the rocks of the granite family, in veins and in cavities. In the United States topaz crystals of gem quality occur in the Pike’s Peak region in Colorado, at Streeter, Texas and in Juab County, Utah.
(10:01:24) (Cris) Remember the references are old
(10:02:07) (Cris) Gem quality topaz has been found in quite a few other places since
(10:02:31) (Cris) The Sanskrit word topas, meaning heat, may well describe the topaz, the color of which can be changed readily by heat and which under heat, pressure and friction, exhibits strong electric phenomena.
(10:02:57) (Cris) The power of topaz was said to increase as the moon increased, especially if the night orb was new or full in the sign Scorpio. It banished the terrors of the night, protected the wearer during epidemics soothed the wild passions and gave a glimpse of the beyond.
(10:03:15) (Cris) It banished the fear of death and secured a painless passing from this life to the next; it gave strength to the intellect and enabled the wearer to receive impressions from the astral sources.
(10:04:13) (Cris) Reading Excerpt:
(10:04:19) (Lynn) St. Ambrose of Milan, St. Augustine and St. Cyril of Alexandria all compared Jesus to the scarab.
(10:05:31) (Cris) All emblems, all languages of stones or flowers, numbers, astrological aspects appear; and the life pattern becomes beautiful, in the color – for it becomes almost as tone and voice in its response to the very nature of the entity.
(10:05:51) (Cris) The in choosing the interpretations of the records of those things that have their influence or urge – keep the topaz as a stone about thee always. It’s beauty, it’s purity, it’s clarity may bring to thee strength. For this ye have found, and will find oft needed in they dealings with thy problems and with thy fellow men.
(10:06:30) (Cris) Reading 2282-1 Female 32
(10:06:42) (Blu) doesn't it come in blue as well as yellow Cris?
(10:06:44) (Cris) Born 5/8/08
(10:06:58) (Lynn) I have blue topaz
(10:06:59) (Cris) yes but most of those today ar heat treated
(10:07:15) (Blu) does that make them less useful?
(10:07:30) (Cris) not really but the natual color is better
(10:08:01) (Cris) Topaz can be a powerful stone if used right
(10:08:11) (Rosie) what is the natural color?
(10:08:50) (Cris) most are yellowish but they can come in a variety of hues
(10:08:51) (Blu) www.gemstone.org/gem-by-gem/english/topaz.html this will show you
(10:09:20) (Cris) You can find white topaz in Georgia
(10:09:55) (Blu) I never seem to go for brownish or yellowish stones, I usually go for blue everything
(10:10:45) (Cris) Q-8 Is there any special color, stone or symbol that would be good for the entity to wear?
(10:11:03) (Cris) A-8 As indicated, symbols of a straight line, a T and the triangle. These are to the entity as the development or the spreading, or the closing in as each implies.
(10:11:17) (Cris) Stones – those of the yellow tint or nature would be the better. Those bring the vibrations for more harmonious influences in one who is especially influenced in Mercury, Venus and Mars. For as each of these is indicated in the white, the red, the blue, the yellow harmonizes in same.
(10:11:36) (Cris) Reading 2648-1 Female 11
(10:11:44) (Cris) Born 12/10/30
(10:12:04) (Cris) Topaz can be used to manifest health it aids digestion and combats anorexia, restores the sense of taste and fortified the nerves. It also stimulates the metabolism. St. Hildegard of Bingen recommended an elixir of topaz to correct dimness of vision.
(10:13:29) (Cris) Any questions on topaz?
(10:13:43) (Blu) nope
(10:13:53) (Rosie) I don't believe I've ever had topaz
(10:14:13) (Blu) I buy it , have lots...but it seems to bright for me to wear
(10:14:18) (Rosie) it would be clear, right?
(10:14:33) (Cris) The gem quality stones are
(10:14:50) (Cris) not all topaz is gem quality
(10:15:22) (Rosie) a non-gem quality stone would be y ellowish, then?
(10:15:50) (Cris) Not always
(10:16:14) (Cris) I dug white and even pink topaz
(10:16:21) (Bill) translucent
(10:16:22) (Blu) the ones I see on that web page are clear looking and they look deep golden to amber color
(10:16:34) (Cris) I have a magnificent pink topaz ring
(10:16:43) (Blu) wow I bet that is beautiful
(10:16:53) (Cris) It has more clarity than some diamonds
(10:17:20) (Rosie) is it not a stone you would typically find with other polished stones?
(10:17:42) (Cris) It cost a fraction of what a a diamond of the same size would go for
(10:18:24) (Bill) a topaz would be faceted Rosie
(10:18:28) (Cris) They aren't rare but most people go for the known stones, ruby, sapphire emeralds
(10:19:16) (Rosie) I asked because I have lots of polished stones but I can never remember what most of them are - except for the amethyst bill sent me once :o)
(10:19:54) (Cris) Most people equate quality with cost but that isn't always a good idea
(10:19:54) (Bill) you must know the rose quartz?
(10:20:07) (Rosie) yeah...pink
(10:20:15) (Rosie) I know the pink and purples :o)
(10:20:34) (Bill) the opal rub stone
(10:21:02) (Rosie) would that be white?
(10:21:13) (Lynn) Bill, the rose quartz healed my hearbreak. It turned yellow and cracked as I healed. I tossed it in a counry pond. It deserves sunshine and water always.
(10:21:18) (Bill) can't remember the color now
(10:21:20) (Cris) Just as an experiment you ought to go to a gem and mineral show or a jeweler and really look at stones
(10:21:43) (true_eagle) u hav info on the opal ... cris
(10:21:59) (Cris) Try them on for size and see what reasonates with you
(10:22:24) (Cris) Yes I covered that recently I can e-mailyou that segment
(10:22:30) (true_eagle) k
(10:22:37) (Bill) last wk. was opal
(10:22:42) (Lynn) Yes, the opal, I have an opal I always wear it. Love it!
(10:25:28) (Cris) When you try on gemstones quiet your mind to see which ones speak to you
(10:26:11) (Cris) See if you feel any physical difference when you wear them
(10:26:40) (Cris) after while you will be able to sense a difference
(10:26:57) (Cris) If there are no more questions it is open chat
(10:27:19) (MaryAnne) Thanks, Cris. Very interesting.
(10:27:36) (true_eagle) yes cris thanks
(10:27:54) (Rosie) thanks, cris...I always learn something here! :o)
(10:27:58) (Bill) TY Cris
(10:28:06) (Cris) YW
(10:28:37) (WalksInSpirit) Thanks Cris! Great chat, as always!
(10:29:03) (Blu) thank you Cris
(10:29:34) (Cris) I'm going to see what else I can dig up on the scarabs
(10:29:49) (Bill) dung bettles
(10:30:10) (Cris) That would be an interesting search
(10:31:00) (true_eagle) it was said that a scarab bettle.. killed lord canarvin
(10:31:40) (Cris) Almost as if they ancients didn't want their tomb disturbed
(10:31:52) (Rosie) ooooh! I didn't know you could get an actual ruby cabochon!
(10:31:53) (true_eagle) yescris
(10:34:11) (Cris) Some of the cabbed rubies star justlike the sapphires do
(10:34:13) (Rosie) when I was about 20 my mom gave me a pink cabochon...dunno what stone it is...said it was as close to ruby as she could find
(10:34:49) (Bill) here you go Cris.......http://www.insects.org/ced2/beetles_rel_sym.html
(10:35:00) (Cris) Thanks Bill
(10:35:04) (Rosie) what makes the star effect?
(10:35:40) (Bill) refraction
(10:35:45) (Rosie) (I have the Cally Hall book here which is handy to have with the Cayce book)
(10:36:07) (Rosie) can you make any stone do that?
(10:36:28) (Bill) i don't believe so
(10:37:14) (Rosie) so the cabochon is just a cut, then? and just certain stones/gems can have the star effect?
(10:37:25) (Lynn) Chris, there are new age books on how to talk to stones and hear them talk to you. I like to cleanse my stones with magick,
(10:37:28) (Cris) Only certain stones that have that refractive fibers
(10:37:47) (Rosie) oh, OK...
(10:37:52) (Cris) I use sunlight moonlight and sea salt
(10:38:03) (Rosie) I've always wanted a blue one, whatever those are
(10:38:14) (Cris) they are sapphires
(10:38:18) (Lynn) I like the sun and moon also water for some stones, careful which ones
(10:38:25) (Rosie) they're gorgeous!
(10:39:01) (Blu) TE just sent me one
(10:39:06) (WalksInSpirit) Cris, I been meaning to ask you... what do you use to saw a geode? My sister and I years ago tried to find something to saw them with and couldn't. We just resorted to popping them open with a hammer!
(10:39:09) (Cris) remember that price is not an indicator of quality or usefullness
(10:39:12) (Bill) i have some rocks here with long hexigon? crystals in them that when you look in the end of the crystal smokey quatrz color you see a star at the other end of the crystal
(10:39:13) (Blu) it's beautiful
(10:39:13) (true_eagle) yes i did
(10:39:27) (true_eagle) its u blu
(10:39:29) (Cris) I use a lapidary saw
(10:39:43) (Cris) you can buy geode saws
(10:39:50) (WalksInSpirit) Diamond tipped, I reckon?
(10:39:54) (Blu) I have to agree with you Mike, it's definately me!
(10:39:59) (Cris) mine runs on oil or water
(10:40:01) (Rosie) so if I had a piece of ruby and polished it and had it cut into a cabochon, it would have to be a gem quality to have the star effect, right?
(10:40:25) (Cris) not always
(10:40:28) (true_eagle) had your name .. all over it .. som things r ment to b
(10:40:33) (Cris) NC rubies often star
(10:40:42) (WalksInSpirit) Yeah! That one that TE sent Blu is beautiful!
(10:40:45) (Cris) You can collect them in some fo the creeks
(10:40:50) (true_eagle) ty
(10:41:08) (true_eagle) an lil dimonds on the side
(10:41:13) (Cris) you can also go to the gem mines
(10:41:42) (Cris) sometimes people in the hobby will cut them for you for a small fee
(10:42:18) (WalksInSpirit) Cool! Thanks Cris! :-)
(10:42:30) (Lynn) Chris, how do you feel about healing rituals with a specific stone placed on each chakra?
(10:42:55) (WalksInSpirit) We have a BUNCH of geodes we've picked up over the years. When we were kids, we called 'em "sugar rocks." LOL
(10:43:04) (Cris) I am open to what works for each practioner
(10:43:24) (Lynn) good answer
(10:43:55) (Bill) join a lapidary club W_E and then use their saw to cut your geodes
(10:44:13) (Cris) I don't think you can close your mind to any modality of healing or opening up the spiritual centers
(10:44:15) (WalksInSpirit) Hey, that's a good idea, Bill!
(10:44:21) (WalksInSpirit) Thanks!
(10:44:33) (Lynn) I prefer carnelian. I have a large carnelian ring I wear and often a penant. The old wives tale is, she who carries a carnelian gets anything she wants. LOL G
(10:44:52) (Bill) our club has all the equipement and charge $2 for use of the equipement with a superviser
(10:45:38) (Cris) I have a box of carnelian rough maybe I need to stuff some in my purse!
(10:45:45) (Bill) rhodenite has been very popular for the last yr. or so
(10:45:46) (WalksInSpirit) That's a good deal, Bill! That equipment ain't cheap, to try to get into it on your own.
(10:46:07) (Lynn) I wear an amethyst and iolite necklace, beads. It helps keep contact with my invisibles.
(10:46:22) (Lynn) Keeps the info flowing.
(10:48:06) (WalksInSpirit) You know... I see a lot of people buying cubic zirconia. And it's a pretty stone alright, but if yall have ever seen any White Beryl set in gold for earrings or a ring... it's a much prettier diamond alternative. And, it's a natural stone, and to me, has more fire in it. I saw some here recently.
(10:49:20) (Cris) Have to go Blessings all
Cris says: Next week we will start on how to select stones for ourselves
Cris says: Lord and Protector of all please be with us on our spiritual journey as we seek a higher plane of thought. Let us see opportunity to work in your grace as we come together to seek peace in this world. Amen
merri says: Amen
Blu says: Amen
Rosie says: Awoman
ron says: amen
Cris says: Welcome to Healing Stones. The introduction of this chat is based on the Edgar Cayce readings complied in the book, Gems and Stones.
Cris says: Keep in mind that this lesson can be interrupted if you have any questions you want answered or is you are confused about anything that is said. This study is taken directly from the book, Gem and Stones, based on the Edgar Cayce readings. It is the starting point for this series on healing with stones.
true_eagle says: im holding my crystal
Cris says: The first stone covered tonight is the Scarab
ron says: i bet she enjoys you holding like that mike :)
true_eagle says: yea
Cris says: scarab is not s stone; rather it is the engraving of a certain of beetle, Scarabaeus sacer, upon a stone.
Cris says: This presupposes a considerable development of civilization, since the art of engraving on precious stones offers many mechanical difficulties and thus requires a high degree of artistic and mechanical skill.
Cris says: It is true that the earliest engraved stones the Babylonian cylinders and the Egyptian scarabs, were both designed to serve an eminently practical purpose as well.
Cris says: Namely, that of seals: but in a great number of instances these primitive seals were looked upon as endowed with a talismanic power, and were worn on the persons as talismans.
Rosie says: what is the purpose of a seal?
Cris says: With the scarab you also have sort of a placebo effect
merri says: a means of identification in many civilizations
Cris says: It is a focusing point for the mind of the person using it
Rosie says: didn't know that!
Cris says: yes it is and actutally goes back farther than the Egyptians
Cris says: scarabs have been found in Incan civilizations too
Cris says: not many but some were in ancient burial tombs
Cris says: They were found in the graves from other civilizations
Rosie says: what's the significance of the scarab? Or am I getting ahead of you?
Rosie says: other than as a seal
Cris says: I'm going back to that now
Rosie says: check
Cris says: A curious symbolism introduced the Egyptians to find in this beetle an emblem of the world of fatherhood and man.
Cris says: The round ball wherein the eggs were deposited typified the world and the Egyptians thought the scarabaei were all males, this especially signified the male principal in generation, becoming types of fatherhood and man.
Cris says: At the same time only the full grown beetles were observed, it was believed that these creatures represented a regeneration or reincarnation, since it was not realized the eggs or larval or pupa stages had anything to do with the generation of the beetle…
Cris says: While, however, this was the popular view, it seems unlikely that such close observers as were the more cultured Egyptians should have been entirely unfamiliar with the real genesis of the Scarabaeus sacer; but in this case, also there would have been no difficulty in finding it emblematic of immortality.
Cris says: The larval stage might well signify the moral life; the pupa stage the intermediate period represented by the mummy…. And lastly the fully developed beetle could be regarded as a type of rebirth into everlasting life…
Cris says: Scarabs are frequently engraved with the hieroglyph anch, meaning ‘life’ and ha, meaning ‘increase of power’… The emblem of stability…(tet) is also employed… (Kunz, pp. 115-116) An exhaustive treatment of scarabs is given in Ward (1902)
Cris says: Reading Excerpt:
Cris says: In the one before this we find (the entity) in that land known as the Egyptian. The entity was then in the household of the priest and those that waited on the companion of the priest in the name Is-Eli
Cris says: In this experience the entity rose to power, position, place, fame, through the experiences in that period as related to the various manners of praise in music, in art and especially that of placing stones.
Cris says: In the present the innate desire to feel precious stones to compare same to watch the change of color in same, is seen from this experience. These will make for much judgement to the entity and the beryl and the scarab should be a portion of the entity’s dress, ever; either worn as the amulet, the ring, or such will make for a safety in the entity’s present experience.
Cris says: Reading 1719-1 Male age 10
Cris says: Born 6/19/20
Cris says: The Egyptians thought of the scarab as being sacred but recent scarabs unearthed show they were not the only group who focused on them
Cris says: If anyone finds any information on recent excavations please let me know
Blu says: OK Cris
Blu says: you have my interest peaked with this
Blu says: makes it sound Atlantean
Cris says: I discovered it by accident last year at a gem and mineral show
Blu says: Maybe even a remnant of Mu
Cris says: one of the dealers had some articles on what they were calling misplaced artifacts
Blu says: interesting indeed
true_eagle says: those crystal skulls.. facinate me'
Cris says: At this point we don't know how they were used by other civilizations
Cris says: They were all scupted from a single piece of quartz and they have no polishing marks on them
true_eagle says: yea... wierd
Cris says: So are some of the other gem and stone carvings found
Blu says: It makes me wonder if they grew them that way
true_eagle says: me thinks... aliens
Cris says: They can etch designs in quartz crystals with lasers now
Blu says: gives new meaning to crystal light beings?
Blu says: would that not leave some kind of trace if they had used that Cris?
Cris says: It is likely that the technology used back then hasn't been rediscovered yet
true_eagle says: yes
Blu says: I gave my sis one of those last year for Christmas
Cris says: If you follow Bill's class
Cris says: For all our "modern" technology we are still pretty primitive
Rosie says: I'll bet crystals were used somehow
(10:00:30) (Cris) Topaz
(10:01:08) (Cris) Its hardness is an eight and its luster is vitreous. Topaz occurs in the rocks of the granite family, in veins and in cavities. In the United States topaz crystals of gem quality occur in the Pike’s Peak region in Colorado, at Streeter, Texas and in Juab County, Utah.
(10:01:24) (Cris) Remember the references are old
(10:02:07) (Cris) Gem quality topaz has been found in quite a few other places since
(10:02:31) (Cris) The Sanskrit word topas, meaning heat, may well describe the topaz, the color of which can be changed readily by heat and which under heat, pressure and friction, exhibits strong electric phenomena.
(10:02:57) (Cris) The power of topaz was said to increase as the moon increased, especially if the night orb was new or full in the sign Scorpio. It banished the terrors of the night, protected the wearer during epidemics soothed the wild passions and gave a glimpse of the beyond.
(10:03:15) (Cris) It banished the fear of death and secured a painless passing from this life to the next; it gave strength to the intellect and enabled the wearer to receive impressions from the astral sources.
(10:04:13) (Cris) Reading Excerpt:
(10:04:19) (Lynn) St. Ambrose of Milan, St. Augustine and St. Cyril of Alexandria all compared Jesus to the scarab.
(10:05:31) (Cris) All emblems, all languages of stones or flowers, numbers, astrological aspects appear; and the life pattern becomes beautiful, in the color – for it becomes almost as tone and voice in its response to the very nature of the entity.
(10:05:51) (Cris) The in choosing the interpretations of the records of those things that have their influence or urge – keep the topaz as a stone about thee always. It’s beauty, it’s purity, it’s clarity may bring to thee strength. For this ye have found, and will find oft needed in they dealings with thy problems and with thy fellow men.
(10:06:30) (Cris) Reading 2282-1 Female 32
(10:06:42) (Blu) doesn't it come in blue as well as yellow Cris?
(10:06:44) (Cris) Born 5/8/08
(10:06:58) (Lynn) I have blue topaz
(10:06:59) (Cris) yes but most of those today ar heat treated
(10:07:15) (Blu) does that make them less useful?
(10:07:30) (Cris) not really but the natual color is better
(10:08:01) (Cris) Topaz can be a powerful stone if used right
(10:08:11) (Rosie) what is the natural color?
(10:08:50) (Cris) most are yellowish but they can come in a variety of hues
(10:08:51) (Blu) www.gemstone.org/gem-by-gem/english/topaz.html this will show you
(10:09:20) (Cris) You can find white topaz in Georgia
(10:09:55) (Blu) I never seem to go for brownish or yellowish stones, I usually go for blue everything
(10:10:45) (Cris) Q-8 Is there any special color, stone or symbol that would be good for the entity to wear?
(10:11:03) (Cris) A-8 As indicated, symbols of a straight line, a T and the triangle. These are to the entity as the development or the spreading, or the closing in as each implies.
(10:11:17) (Cris) Stones – those of the yellow tint or nature would be the better. Those bring the vibrations for more harmonious influences in one who is especially influenced in Mercury, Venus and Mars. For as each of these is indicated in the white, the red, the blue, the yellow harmonizes in same.
(10:11:36) (Cris) Reading 2648-1 Female 11
(10:11:44) (Cris) Born 12/10/30
(10:12:04) (Cris) Topaz can be used to manifest health it aids digestion and combats anorexia, restores the sense of taste and fortified the nerves. It also stimulates the metabolism. St. Hildegard of Bingen recommended an elixir of topaz to correct dimness of vision.
(10:13:29) (Cris) Any questions on topaz?
(10:13:43) (Blu) nope
(10:13:53) (Rosie) I don't believe I've ever had topaz
(10:14:13) (Blu) I buy it , have lots...but it seems to bright for me to wear
(10:14:18) (Rosie) it would be clear, right?
(10:14:33) (Cris) The gem quality stones are
(10:14:50) (Cris) not all topaz is gem quality
(10:15:22) (Rosie) a non-gem quality stone would be y ellowish, then?
(10:15:50) (Cris) Not always
(10:16:14) (Cris) I dug white and even pink topaz
(10:16:21) (Bill) translucent
(10:16:22) (Blu) the ones I see on that web page are clear looking and they look deep golden to amber color
(10:16:34) (Cris) I have a magnificent pink topaz ring
(10:16:43) (Blu) wow I bet that is beautiful
(10:16:53) (Cris) It has more clarity than some diamonds
(10:17:20) (Rosie) is it not a stone you would typically find with other polished stones?
(10:17:42) (Cris) It cost a fraction of what a a diamond of the same size would go for
(10:18:24) (Bill) a topaz would be faceted Rosie
(10:18:28) (Cris) They aren't rare but most people go for the known stones, ruby, sapphire emeralds
(10:19:16) (Rosie) I asked because I have lots of polished stones but I can never remember what most of them are - except for the amethyst bill sent me once :o)
(10:19:54) (Cris) Most people equate quality with cost but that isn't always a good idea
(10:19:54) (Bill) you must know the rose quartz?
(10:20:07) (Rosie) yeah...pink
(10:20:15) (Rosie) I know the pink and purples :o)
(10:20:34) (Bill) the opal rub stone
(10:21:02) (Rosie) would that be white?
(10:21:13) (Lynn) Bill, the rose quartz healed my hearbreak. It turned yellow and cracked as I healed. I tossed it in a counry pond. It deserves sunshine and water always.
(10:21:18) (Bill) can't remember the color now
(10:21:20) (Cris) Just as an experiment you ought to go to a gem and mineral show or a jeweler and really look at stones
(10:21:43) (true_eagle) u hav info on the opal ... cris
(10:21:59) (Cris) Try them on for size and see what reasonates with you
(10:22:24) (Cris) Yes I covered that recently I can e-mailyou that segment
(10:22:30) (true_eagle) k
(10:22:37) (Bill) last wk. was opal
(10:22:42) (Lynn) Yes, the opal, I have an opal I always wear it. Love it!
(10:25:28) (Cris) When you try on gemstones quiet your mind to see which ones speak to you
(10:26:11) (Cris) See if you feel any physical difference when you wear them
(10:26:40) (Cris) after while you will be able to sense a difference
(10:26:57) (Cris) If there are no more questions it is open chat
(10:27:19) (MaryAnne) Thanks, Cris. Very interesting.
(10:27:36) (true_eagle) yes cris thanks
(10:27:54) (Rosie) thanks, cris...I always learn something here! :o)
(10:27:58) (Bill) TY Cris
(10:28:06) (Cris) YW
(10:28:37) (WalksInSpirit) Thanks Cris! Great chat, as always!
(10:29:03) (Blu) thank you Cris
(10:29:34) (Cris) I'm going to see what else I can dig up on the scarabs
(10:29:49) (Bill) dung bettles
(10:30:10) (Cris) That would be an interesting search
(10:31:00) (true_eagle) it was said that a scarab bettle.. killed lord canarvin
(10:31:40) (Cris) Almost as if they ancients didn't want their tomb disturbed
(10:31:52) (Rosie) ooooh! I didn't know you could get an actual ruby cabochon!
(10:31:53) (true_eagle) yescris
(10:34:11) (Cris) Some of the cabbed rubies star justlike the sapphires do
(10:34:13) (Rosie) when I was about 20 my mom gave me a pink cabochon...dunno what stone it is...said it was as close to ruby as she could find
(10:34:49) (Bill) here you go Cris.......http://www.insects.org/ced2/beetles_rel_sym.html
(10:35:00) (Cris) Thanks Bill
(10:35:04) (Rosie) what makes the star effect?
(10:35:40) (Bill) refraction
(10:35:45) (Rosie) (I have the Cally Hall book here which is handy to have with the Cayce book)
(10:36:07) (Rosie) can you make any stone do that?
(10:36:28) (Bill) i don't believe so
(10:37:14) (Rosie) so the cabochon is just a cut, then? and just certain stones/gems can have the star effect?
(10:37:25) (Lynn) Chris, there are new age books on how to talk to stones and hear them talk to you. I like to cleanse my stones with magick,
(10:37:28) (Cris) Only certain stones that have that refractive fibers
(10:37:47) (Rosie) oh, OK...
(10:37:52) (Cris) I use sunlight moonlight and sea salt
(10:38:03) (Rosie) I've always wanted a blue one, whatever those are
(10:38:14) (Cris) they are sapphires
(10:38:18) (Lynn) I like the sun and moon also water for some stones, careful which ones
(10:38:25) (Rosie) they're gorgeous!
(10:39:01) (Blu) TE just sent me one
(10:39:06) (WalksInSpirit) Cris, I been meaning to ask you... what do you use to saw a geode? My sister and I years ago tried to find something to saw them with and couldn't. We just resorted to popping them open with a hammer!
(10:39:09) (Cris) remember that price is not an indicator of quality or usefullness
(10:39:12) (Bill) i have some rocks here with long hexigon? crystals in them that when you look in the end of the crystal smokey quatrz color you see a star at the other end of the crystal
(10:39:13) (Blu) it's beautiful
(10:39:13) (true_eagle) yes i did
(10:39:27) (true_eagle) its u blu
(10:39:29) (Cris) I use a lapidary saw
(10:39:43) (Cris) you can buy geode saws
(10:39:50) (WalksInSpirit) Diamond tipped, I reckon?
(10:39:54) (Blu) I have to agree with you Mike, it's definately me!
(10:39:59) (Cris) mine runs on oil or water
(10:40:01) (Rosie) so if I had a piece of ruby and polished it and had it cut into a cabochon, it would have to be a gem quality to have the star effect, right?
(10:40:25) (Cris) not always
(10:40:28) (true_eagle) had your name .. all over it .. som things r ment to b
(10:40:33) (Cris) NC rubies often star
(10:40:42) (WalksInSpirit) Yeah! That one that TE sent Blu is beautiful!
(10:40:45) (Cris) You can collect them in some fo the creeks
(10:40:50) (true_eagle) ty
(10:41:08) (true_eagle) an lil dimonds on the side
(10:41:13) (Cris) you can also go to the gem mines
(10:41:42) (Cris) sometimes people in the hobby will cut them for you for a small fee
(10:42:18) (WalksInSpirit) Cool! Thanks Cris! :-)
(10:42:30) (Lynn) Chris, how do you feel about healing rituals with a specific stone placed on each chakra?
(10:42:55) (WalksInSpirit) We have a BUNCH of geodes we've picked up over the years. When we were kids, we called 'em "sugar rocks." LOL
(10:43:04) (Cris) I am open to what works for each practioner
(10:43:24) (Lynn) good answer
(10:43:55) (Bill) join a lapidary club W_E and then use their saw to cut your geodes
(10:44:13) (Cris) I don't think you can close your mind to any modality of healing or opening up the spiritual centers
(10:44:15) (WalksInSpirit) Hey, that's a good idea, Bill!
(10:44:21) (WalksInSpirit) Thanks!
(10:44:33) (Lynn) I prefer carnelian. I have a large carnelian ring I wear and often a penant. The old wives tale is, she who carries a carnelian gets anything she wants. LOL G
(10:44:52) (Bill) our club has all the equipement and charge $2 for use of the equipement with a superviser
(10:45:38) (Cris) I have a box of carnelian rough maybe I need to stuff some in my purse!
(10:45:45) (Bill) rhodenite has been very popular for the last yr. or so
(10:45:46) (WalksInSpirit) That's a good deal, Bill! That equipment ain't cheap, to try to get into it on your own.
(10:46:07) (Lynn) I wear an amethyst and iolite necklace, beads. It helps keep contact with my invisibles.
(10:46:22) (Lynn) Keeps the info flowing.
(10:48:06) (WalksInSpirit) You know... I see a lot of people buying cubic zirconia. And it's a pretty stone alright, but if yall have ever seen any White Beryl set in gold for earrings or a ring... it's a much prettier diamond alternative. And, it's a natural stone, and to me, has more fire in it. I saw some here recently.
(10:49:20) (Cris) Have to go Blessings all
