Post by WalksInSpirit on Oct 31, 2006 22:09:36 GMT -5
Moonstone And Opal: 10-31-06
(09:32:22) (Cris) I'm going to get started. We're just covering two minerals tonight
(09:33:59) (Cris) Lord and Protector of all please be with us on our spiritual journey as we seek a higher plane of thought. Let us see opportunity to work in your grace as we come together to seek peace in this world. Amen
(09:34:10) (FrankenWIS) Nunwe
(09:34:13) (Princess_Leah) Amen
(09:34:17) (Bill) Amen
(09:34:24) (merri) Amen
(09:34:39) (Weaverofdreams) amen
(09:34:51) (Miss_Black_Kat) amen
(09:35:06) (Cris) Welcome to Healing Stones. The introduction of this chat is based on the Edgar Cayce readings complied in the book, Gems and Stones.
(09:35:27) (Cris) Keep in mind that this lesson can be interrupted if you have any questions you want answered or is you are confused about anything that is said. This study is taken directly from the book, Gem and Stones, based on the Edgar Cayce readings. It is the starting point for this series on healing with stones.
(09:35:58) (Cris) The first mineral we'll cover is moonstone
(09:36:07) (Cris) appropriate for tonight
(09:36:55) (Cris) This is due to a chatoyancy produced by a reflection caused by certain cleavage planes present in feldspar of the variety of orthoclase to which the moonstone belongs. (Kunz p.334)
(09:37:23) (Cris) The color may be gray, white pale yellow or it may be colorless. Its hardness is a 6. “The original adularia is from the St. Gotthard region in Switzerland, Valencianite from the silver mine of Valencia, Mexico is adularia.” (Dana and Ford p. 538)
(09:37:47) (Cris) Moonstone is so abundant in Ceylon that it is called the “Ceylon Opal”. It is related that Pope Leo X possessed a wonderful specimen which, obscure and dull when the moon was old, increased in brilliance as that orb grew from new to full. It is recommended that in order to know the future and to obtain spiritual guidance a moonstone be held in the mouth, under a waning moon.
(09:38:00) (Cris) It is also necessary to be quite alone and to send out a mental prayer to the angel Gabriel, (angel of the moon) asking for help by God’s grace. The moonstone was considered as a charm against cancer, dropsy and affectations of a watery nature. (Kozminsky p. 266)
(09:38:59) (Cris) Some people do use moonstone for enhancing their intuitiveness
(09:39:46) (Cris) If you take a piece and put it in a windowsill it does seem to wax and wane just as the moon does
(09:40:01) (Cris) I haen't seen that effect in finished jewelry
(09:40:27) (Cris) Reading Excerpt:
(09:40:37) (Cris) In giving that as may be helpful to this entity in the present, know that the records are that made by an entity in its activities in the earth are the reflection of that the entity has done about its knowledge, its understanding of creative forces in the relations of self to fellow man.
(09:40:58) (Cris) About the entity we find much that may be indicative of those influences in the earth that are as the appearances. These, as we fin, speak of associations with heraldry, banners, swords and the like, the shield with the bow; the coloring and reflection of green
(09:41:12) (Cris) fields and woods and the clash that is made in resistances, force, power, might of main, becomes associated with the entity.
(09:41:35) (Cris) From those experiences we find that omens arise. Not that they influence, but create by their vibration an element through which the mental and spiritual forces of the entity may vibrate for constructive experience in their activity.
(09:41:51) (Cris) The pearl and the moonstone, these in combination, or in their setting alone, are well to have about the body.
(09:42:01) (Cris) Reading 1037-1 Female 49
(09:42:12) (Cris) Born 7/1/1886
(09:42:30) (Cris) Reading Excerpt:
(09:42:47) (Cris) Hence the opal that has called the change, with the moonstone, should be stones about the body of entity oft. Wear the fire opal as a locket about the neck. This would be well. Not upon the hands nor upon the wrists, but about the neck.
(09:43:06) (Cris) Wear the others, as of the pearl with moonstone or the like, as rings or amulets or anklets: but never those upon the neck or in the ears- rather upon the extremities; for they will make those very colors and vibrations that have been indicated to which the entity is so sensitive…
(09:43:22) (Cris) Q-8 To which color do I vibrate?
(09:43:34) (Cris) A-8 As has been indicated, all colors almost fade when the entity enters. It gives life then to any; but those that are of the bright colors, yet those that are in harmony, are those that should be worn most about the body.
(09:43:47) (Cris) Reading 1406-1 Female 14
(09:43:55) (Cris) Born 2/2/23
(09:44:30) (Cris) Reading Excerpt:
(09:45:00) (Cris) Reading 1620-2 Female 45
(09:45:10) (Cris) Born 9/22/1893
(09:45:35) (Cris) Reading Excerpt:
(09:46:05) (Cris) For the entity was among those that came from portions of Alabama and settled in what is now Arkansas (or Ar-Kansas as then called); and the entity was among those who panned for gold and found diamonds.
(09:46:28) (Cris) But the entity learned from those experiences that which would be well for the body. While it should never wear a great deal of jewelry – it doesn’t fir the universality of the mind of the entity, nor does the vibration of jewelry (cheap or good) mean much to the entity, but - wear the moonstone close to your body, or on your body.
(09:46:45) (Cris) It will give strength, and it will keep that which is nearest to you closer to you; not as an omen but as a part of your mental and spiritual consciousness. Have same as a chain or upon a chain, about your neck: not as an ornament, but rather as a helpmeet, as an urge, as a vibration that will be most helpful -–as it was in the experience in that land as Margaret Fitzhugh.
(09:47:02) (Cris) Here a past name was used in a reading
(09:47:13) (Princess_Leah) interesting
(09:47:28) (Cris) it would have been interesting if the person getting the reading could have verified past life facts
(09:47:50) (Cris) Reading 5125-1 Female 30
(09:47:59) (Cris) Born 10/28/13
(09:48:10) (Cris) I wonder if she ever tried
(09:48:25) (Princess_Leah) I would have if I were her
(09:48:43) (Cris) It would have been an interesting quest
(09:49:04) (Cris) Here is a little more information on moonstone
(09:49:15) (Cris) Moonstone helps the digestive and reproductive systems assimilates nutrients, eliminates toxins and fluid retention and alleviates degenerative conditions of skin, hair, eyes and fleshy organs such as the liver and pancreas. It is also excellent for PMS, conception, pregnancy, childbirth and breastfeeding. A moonstone elixir was traditionally used for insomnia and the stone can prevent sleepwalking.
(09:49:39) (Cris) Any sleepwalkers out there?
(09:50:00) (Princess_Leah) now you tell me Cris!
(09:50:02) (Princess_Leah) I could have used that before I went post meno
(09:50:11) (Cris) I bet there were times my family wished I had some for PMS
(09:51:01) (Cris) Bill do you have any moonstone?
(09:51:20) (Bill) no i don't Cris been thinking of buying some
(09:51:43) (Cris) years ago I had a chunk from a NC mine
(09:51:52) (Cris) I'd like to get some more
(09:52:16) (Cris) Any questions on moonstone?
(09:52:55) (Princess_Leah) Not from me
(09:53:06) (Cris) I'll move on to opal
(09:53:30) (Cris) Opal is composed of silica, like quartz but with a varying amount of water. Precious opal exhibits a play of delicate colors; the fire opal displays hyacinth red to honey yellow colors with fire like reflections, sometimes irised on turning. (Dana and Ford p.476) hardness of the opal is 5.5 to 6.5 and it usually occurs in a massive form.
(09:53:43) (Cris) Common opal is widespread in its occurrence. Gem opal is found in Humbolt County, Nevada and fire opal at Hidalgo, Mexico.
(09:54:36) (Cris) These references are old opal has been discovered in quite a few places since that book was published
(09:54:46) (Bill) a good fire opal mine not far from here maybe 20 or 30 miles
(09:55:10) (Cris) I'd love to go there
(09:55:20) (Cris) Have you been yet Bill?
(09:55:41) (Bill) you can he charges fifty bucks to let you go through the tailings some fined nice stuff
(09:55:58) (Cris) I need to plan a trip to BC
(09:56:02) (Bill) no Cris i dislike the man for some reason
(09:56:34) (Cris) go by intuition you are probably right on
(09:57:05) (Cris) I refuse to dig with certain groups and people
(09:57:19) (Cris) In Pliny’s words, “The opal is made up of the glories of the most precious gems which make description so difficult. For amongst them is the gentler fire of the ruby, the rich purple of the amethyst, the sea green of the emerald, glittering together in union indescribable. Others by the intensity of their hues equal upon all the painters colors…”
(09:57:46) (Cris) In the ancient world the opal was though to favor “children of the theatre, amusements, friendships, and feelings. Held between the eyes it gave proper direction to thoughts. Held in the left hand and gazed upon it favored the desires. It is the stone of hope and achievement and has been truly described as the “gem of the Gods”.
(09:58:09) (Cris) ”. Above all it is a stone of love but if the lover be false its influence is reversed, and the opal proves a sorry gem for faithless lovers.” (Kozminsky p. 291)
(09:58:36) (Cris) Reading Excerpt:
(09:58:51) (Cris) Q-4 Will wearing opals by one who does not have them as a birth stone signify ill omens for that person?
(09:59:05) (Cris) A-4 No. No opals will be helpful if there is kept the correct attitude, for it will enable the entity to hold on to self or to prevent those who would be angry from flying off the handle too much.
(09:59:14) (Cris) Reading 4006-1 Female 41
(09:59:27) (Cris) Born 6/18/02
(09:59:49) (Cris) Reading Excerpt:
(10:00:04) (Cris) Before that we find the entity was in the land now known or called the Egyptian, when those people began the interpretations and the applications of the truths that were gathered from the Atlanteans.
(10:00:25) (Cris) The entity came into the experiences in Egypt but was of the Atlantean peoples, and interpreted the Temple Beautiful those beauties of the temples in Poseidia; for from there we find those great lights - opaline lights. As it were – about the entity.
(10:00:46) (Cris) And these, as we find, would be those stones that to others may bring as mystery yet the fire opal would be of the stones that should be about the entity; for the holding of that fire, that vigor, that understanding that makes for perfection, even though the fires of the flesh must be burned out that glory of self may be made manifest in being a channel for the glory of the living truths to be known and experienced among others.
(10:01:23) (Cris) Reading 1193-1 Female 15
(10:01:31) (Cris) Born 8/23/20
(10:01:55) (Cris) Here is a little more information:
(10:02:05) (Cris) Opal strengthens the will to live. It treats Parkinson’s Disease, infections and fevers and strengthens the memory. It can purify the blood and kidneys. Opal regulates insulin eases childbirth. This stone is beneficial for the eyes especially as an elixir.
(10:03:11) (Cris) Any questions on opal?
(10:03:58) (Cris) We'll stop here for tonight
(10:04:10) (Princess_Leah) I want one of each
(10:04:13) (Bill) TY Cris
(10:04:20) (Cris) YW
(10:04:25) (Princess_Leah) thanks Cris, this is wonderful information
(10:04:52) (FrankenWIS) Awesome material, Cris! Thank you!
(10:05:06) (Cris) I had a sister who used to sleepwalk I wish I'd known about moonstone growing up
(10:05:16) (Cris) It sure would have helped her
(10:05:34) (Princess_Leah) I love all the stones, they are all beautiful
(10:06:28) (Cris) It is now open chat
(09:33:59) (Cris) Lord and Protector of all please be with us on our spiritual journey as we seek a higher plane of thought. Let us see opportunity to work in your grace as we come together to seek peace in this world. Amen
(09:34:10) (FrankenWIS) Nunwe
(09:34:13) (Princess_Leah) Amen
(09:34:17) (Bill) Amen
(09:34:24) (merri) Amen
(09:34:39) (Weaverofdreams) amen
(09:34:51) (Miss_Black_Kat) amen
(09:35:06) (Cris) Welcome to Healing Stones. The introduction of this chat is based on the Edgar Cayce readings complied in the book, Gems and Stones.
(09:35:27) (Cris) Keep in mind that this lesson can be interrupted if you have any questions you want answered or is you are confused about anything that is said. This study is taken directly from the book, Gem and Stones, based on the Edgar Cayce readings. It is the starting point for this series on healing with stones.
(09:35:58) (Cris) The first mineral we'll cover is moonstone
(09:36:07) (Cris) appropriate for tonight
(09:36:55) (Cris) This is due to a chatoyancy produced by a reflection caused by certain cleavage planes present in feldspar of the variety of orthoclase to which the moonstone belongs. (Kunz p.334)
(09:37:23) (Cris) The color may be gray, white pale yellow or it may be colorless. Its hardness is a 6. “The original adularia is from the St. Gotthard region in Switzerland, Valencianite from the silver mine of Valencia, Mexico is adularia.” (Dana and Ford p. 538)
(09:37:47) (Cris) Moonstone is so abundant in Ceylon that it is called the “Ceylon Opal”. It is related that Pope Leo X possessed a wonderful specimen which, obscure and dull when the moon was old, increased in brilliance as that orb grew from new to full. It is recommended that in order to know the future and to obtain spiritual guidance a moonstone be held in the mouth, under a waning moon.
(09:38:00) (Cris) It is also necessary to be quite alone and to send out a mental prayer to the angel Gabriel, (angel of the moon) asking for help by God’s grace. The moonstone was considered as a charm against cancer, dropsy and affectations of a watery nature. (Kozminsky p. 266)
(09:38:59) (Cris) Some people do use moonstone for enhancing their intuitiveness
(09:39:46) (Cris) If you take a piece and put it in a windowsill it does seem to wax and wane just as the moon does
(09:40:01) (Cris) I haen't seen that effect in finished jewelry
(09:40:27) (Cris) Reading Excerpt:
(09:40:37) (Cris) In giving that as may be helpful to this entity in the present, know that the records are that made by an entity in its activities in the earth are the reflection of that the entity has done about its knowledge, its understanding of creative forces in the relations of self to fellow man.
(09:40:58) (Cris) About the entity we find much that may be indicative of those influences in the earth that are as the appearances. These, as we fin, speak of associations with heraldry, banners, swords and the like, the shield with the bow; the coloring and reflection of green
(09:41:12) (Cris) fields and woods and the clash that is made in resistances, force, power, might of main, becomes associated with the entity.
(09:41:35) (Cris) From those experiences we find that omens arise. Not that they influence, but create by their vibration an element through which the mental and spiritual forces of the entity may vibrate for constructive experience in their activity.
(09:41:51) (Cris) The pearl and the moonstone, these in combination, or in their setting alone, are well to have about the body.
(09:42:01) (Cris) Reading 1037-1 Female 49
(09:42:12) (Cris) Born 7/1/1886
(09:42:30) (Cris) Reading Excerpt:
(09:42:47) (Cris) Hence the opal that has called the change, with the moonstone, should be stones about the body of entity oft. Wear the fire opal as a locket about the neck. This would be well. Not upon the hands nor upon the wrists, but about the neck.
(09:43:06) (Cris) Wear the others, as of the pearl with moonstone or the like, as rings or amulets or anklets: but never those upon the neck or in the ears- rather upon the extremities; for they will make those very colors and vibrations that have been indicated to which the entity is so sensitive…
(09:43:22) (Cris) Q-8 To which color do I vibrate?
(09:43:34) (Cris) A-8 As has been indicated, all colors almost fade when the entity enters. It gives life then to any; but those that are of the bright colors, yet those that are in harmony, are those that should be worn most about the body.
(09:43:47) (Cris) Reading 1406-1 Female 14
(09:43:55) (Cris) Born 2/2/23
(09:44:30) (Cris) Reading Excerpt:
(09:45:00) (Cris) Reading 1620-2 Female 45
(09:45:10) (Cris) Born 9/22/1893
(09:45:35) (Cris) Reading Excerpt:
(09:46:05) (Cris) For the entity was among those that came from portions of Alabama and settled in what is now Arkansas (or Ar-Kansas as then called); and the entity was among those who panned for gold and found diamonds.
(09:46:28) (Cris) But the entity learned from those experiences that which would be well for the body. While it should never wear a great deal of jewelry – it doesn’t fir the universality of the mind of the entity, nor does the vibration of jewelry (cheap or good) mean much to the entity, but - wear the moonstone close to your body, or on your body.
(09:46:45) (Cris) It will give strength, and it will keep that which is nearest to you closer to you; not as an omen but as a part of your mental and spiritual consciousness. Have same as a chain or upon a chain, about your neck: not as an ornament, but rather as a helpmeet, as an urge, as a vibration that will be most helpful -–as it was in the experience in that land as Margaret Fitzhugh.
(09:47:02) (Cris) Here a past name was used in a reading
(09:47:13) (Princess_Leah) interesting
(09:47:28) (Cris) it would have been interesting if the person getting the reading could have verified past life facts
(09:47:50) (Cris) Reading 5125-1 Female 30
(09:47:59) (Cris) Born 10/28/13
(09:48:10) (Cris) I wonder if she ever tried
(09:48:25) (Princess_Leah) I would have if I were her
(09:48:43) (Cris) It would have been an interesting quest
(09:49:04) (Cris) Here is a little more information on moonstone
(09:49:15) (Cris) Moonstone helps the digestive and reproductive systems assimilates nutrients, eliminates toxins and fluid retention and alleviates degenerative conditions of skin, hair, eyes and fleshy organs such as the liver and pancreas. It is also excellent for PMS, conception, pregnancy, childbirth and breastfeeding. A moonstone elixir was traditionally used for insomnia and the stone can prevent sleepwalking.
(09:49:39) (Cris) Any sleepwalkers out there?
(09:50:00) (Princess_Leah) now you tell me Cris!
(09:50:02) (Princess_Leah) I could have used that before I went post meno
(09:50:11) (Cris) I bet there were times my family wished I had some for PMS
(09:51:01) (Cris) Bill do you have any moonstone?
(09:51:20) (Bill) no i don't Cris been thinking of buying some
(09:51:43) (Cris) years ago I had a chunk from a NC mine
(09:51:52) (Cris) I'd like to get some more
(09:52:16) (Cris) Any questions on moonstone?
(09:52:55) (Princess_Leah) Not from me
(09:53:06) (Cris) I'll move on to opal
(09:53:30) (Cris) Opal is composed of silica, like quartz but with a varying amount of water. Precious opal exhibits a play of delicate colors; the fire opal displays hyacinth red to honey yellow colors with fire like reflections, sometimes irised on turning. (Dana and Ford p.476) hardness of the opal is 5.5 to 6.5 and it usually occurs in a massive form.
(09:53:43) (Cris) Common opal is widespread in its occurrence. Gem opal is found in Humbolt County, Nevada and fire opal at Hidalgo, Mexico.
(09:54:36) (Cris) These references are old opal has been discovered in quite a few places since that book was published
(09:54:46) (Bill) a good fire opal mine not far from here maybe 20 or 30 miles
(09:55:10) (Cris) I'd love to go there
(09:55:20) (Cris) Have you been yet Bill?
(09:55:41) (Bill) you can he charges fifty bucks to let you go through the tailings some fined nice stuff
(09:55:58) (Cris) I need to plan a trip to BC
(09:56:02) (Bill) no Cris i dislike the man for some reason
(09:56:34) (Cris) go by intuition you are probably right on
(09:57:05) (Cris) I refuse to dig with certain groups and people
(09:57:19) (Cris) In Pliny’s words, “The opal is made up of the glories of the most precious gems which make description so difficult. For amongst them is the gentler fire of the ruby, the rich purple of the amethyst, the sea green of the emerald, glittering together in union indescribable. Others by the intensity of their hues equal upon all the painters colors…”
(09:57:46) (Cris) In the ancient world the opal was though to favor “children of the theatre, amusements, friendships, and feelings. Held between the eyes it gave proper direction to thoughts. Held in the left hand and gazed upon it favored the desires. It is the stone of hope and achievement and has been truly described as the “gem of the Gods”.
(09:58:09) (Cris) ”. Above all it is a stone of love but if the lover be false its influence is reversed, and the opal proves a sorry gem for faithless lovers.” (Kozminsky p. 291)
(09:58:36) (Cris) Reading Excerpt:
(09:58:51) (Cris) Q-4 Will wearing opals by one who does not have them as a birth stone signify ill omens for that person?
(09:59:05) (Cris) A-4 No. No opals will be helpful if there is kept the correct attitude, for it will enable the entity to hold on to self or to prevent those who would be angry from flying off the handle too much.
(09:59:14) (Cris) Reading 4006-1 Female 41
(09:59:27) (Cris) Born 6/18/02
(09:59:49) (Cris) Reading Excerpt:
(10:00:04) (Cris) Before that we find the entity was in the land now known or called the Egyptian, when those people began the interpretations and the applications of the truths that were gathered from the Atlanteans.
(10:00:25) (Cris) The entity came into the experiences in Egypt but was of the Atlantean peoples, and interpreted the Temple Beautiful those beauties of the temples in Poseidia; for from there we find those great lights - opaline lights. As it were – about the entity.
(10:00:46) (Cris) And these, as we find, would be those stones that to others may bring as mystery yet the fire opal would be of the stones that should be about the entity; for the holding of that fire, that vigor, that understanding that makes for perfection, even though the fires of the flesh must be burned out that glory of self may be made manifest in being a channel for the glory of the living truths to be known and experienced among others.
(10:01:23) (Cris) Reading 1193-1 Female 15
(10:01:31) (Cris) Born 8/23/20
(10:01:55) (Cris) Here is a little more information:
(10:02:05) (Cris) Opal strengthens the will to live. It treats Parkinson’s Disease, infections and fevers and strengthens the memory. It can purify the blood and kidneys. Opal regulates insulin eases childbirth. This stone is beneficial for the eyes especially as an elixir.
(10:03:11) (Cris) Any questions on opal?
(10:03:58) (Cris) We'll stop here for tonight
(10:04:10) (Princess_Leah) I want one of each
(10:04:13) (Bill) TY Cris
(10:04:20) (Cris) YW
(10:04:25) (Princess_Leah) thanks Cris, this is wonderful information
(10:04:52) (FrankenWIS) Awesome material, Cris! Thank you!
(10:05:06) (Cris) I had a sister who used to sleepwalk I wish I'd known about moonstone growing up
(10:05:16) (Cris) It sure would have helped her
(10:05:34) (Princess_Leah) I love all the stones, they are all beautiful
(10:06:28) (Cris) It is now open chat