Post by WalksInSpirit on Aug 15, 2006 21:28:43 GMT -5
Healing Stones: 08-15-06
(09:24:12) (Cris) I decided that when I presented this topic I'd start with the Edgar Cayce book on stones
(09:24:30) (Roz) good plan
(09:24:38) (Cris) This is an ARE chat so that book should be featured as a starting point
(09:24:47) (Blu) Cool Cris
(09:25:09) (Bill) yup just checked the schedual says Cris and her healing stones there :o)
(09:25:14) (Cris) We will begin this series by going through the book, Gems and Stones, based on the Edgar Cayce Readings. It is an appropriate guide for an ARE chat session. Edgar Cayce often mentioned the influence of stones in his readings.
(09:25:36) (Cris) If you have any questions about the series feel free to ask
(09:26:14) (Cris) Tonight I'll start the preface andintroduction
(09:26:32) (Cris) Some of the sentences and wording of the book may be long because the text came directly from the transcribed readings. If you do not understand a passage stop me and I’ll explain it.
(09:27:04) (Cris) The introduction is the Philosophy of the Edgar Cayce Readings.
(09:27:31) (Cris) When discussing the areas of psychic experience approached by means of gem vibrations, astrology, numerology, hypnosis, automatic writing etc., the Cayce discourses insist that these were not psychic toys, but tools, if which used correctly, could be extremely helpful in spiritual development. If abused or used for selfish purposes they could “turn and rend” the user.
(09:28:23) (Cris) In studying the readings on the occult influences of gems, stones and metals with the object of putting the information to personal use, you should have a general idea of the philosophical background of his psychic discourses.
(09:29:04) (Cris) The philosophy of the readings is often described as universal. That is, it is not at odds with any major philosophy or religion and in its structure, contains elements of various schools of thought. It combines and reconciles the mysticism and introspection of the East with the social consciousness and evangelism of Western Christianity. From the purely religious standpoint, Jesus Christ is it apex.
(09:29:45) (Cris) Human life, the readings assert, is a temporary phase of eternal life of the soul – experienced by choice or necessity for the purpose of gaining understanding and progress towards perfection required for full reunion with God. Through series of experiences in various planes of consciousness, including the earth, the soul is said to become aware and obedient to divine law.
(09:30:30) (Cris) The readings encourage an individual search for both understanding and application of spiritual law, repeatedly paraphrasing Saint James epistle with the warning, “Knowledge not lived is a sin!” An immediate goal of such searching would be the solution of all practical problems of life, - spiritual law being superior to all physical laws.
(09:31:36) (Cris) Meditation and prayer combined with creative action – or in other words, translated into service – are asserted to be the keys to understanding the power resulting from it. The user will notice that the vibrations of certain semi-precious stones are said to be aids in the practice of meditation. Other gems, stones and metals are pointed out as having highly individual effects, both spiritual and physical for people who ca discover the type best suited to their own electrodynamic character.
(09:32:08) (Cris) The object of this study is not to recommend any particular gem or stone for individual. Rather it presents the criteria to be found in the Cayce readings by which an individual can investigate, test and choose that which is beneficial to his own case.
(09:32:42) (Cris) This is the end of the introduction. Are there any questions?
(09:37:01) (Cris) The employment of gems, stones and metals for influencing a variety of physical, mental and spiritual conditions in man was once an exact and highly developed science. The science is at present greatly corrupted from its former state, and at a very low level. It is the purpose of the Cayce study to present new knowledge “new” to our time on the occult properties of gems, stones and metals – knowledge that was obtained through Edgar Cayce from what the readings
(09:37:38) (Cris) The importance that this branch of knowledge has had I the past and the benefits that can be derived from its study in the present are indicated in the following passages from the readings:
(09:38:05) (Cris) The following is from a reading
(09:38:19) (Cris) Q-5 What should my hobby be?
(09:38:42) (Cris) A-5 The gathering of data of the nature that is unusual, respecting the jewels of all characters: how that some have played such a part in love affairs, in the life and death and home and in the empire building for some lands. Few realize how much part of some of these have played I this land, or in England, or in France, or in Persia, India, Hindustan and the crown jewels in Russia. All of these and the data of it, would be a lovely hobby – and bring those vibrations of good for the body.
(09:39:59) (Cris) This is from a second reading:
(09:40:11) (Cris) Q-12 Why were these stones mentioned to me in the beginning?
(09:40:27) (Cris) A-12 They are as those things of old, which if followed…may be used as stepping-stones for the understanding of vibrations as related to the mineral forces and as to man.
(09:41:10) (Roz) puts a new understanding on this subject Cris
(09:41:19) (Cris) EC believed that using stones and metals was a forgotton art
(09:42:04) (Cris) Even today the idea is often scoffed at even when people see results
(09:43:13) (Cris) Most of us can visualize power centers in places like Sedona but we don't realize earth objects such as stones are also conductors of energy
(09:43:32) (Cris) Mechanism of Influence
(09:43:53) (Roz) got a lot to learn yet
(09:44:01) (Cris) There are no modern day scientific theories that treat this mechanism by which gems, tones and metals transmit influences to human beings. Many of us however would like to know more about the phenomenon.
(09:44:43) (Cris) A very few of our number appear t have actually apprehended the underlying truths: consider for instance, the words of the great yogi Paramahansa Yogananda
(09:45:11) (Cris) Pearl and other jewels as well as metals and plants applied directly to the human skin, exercise an electromagnetic influence over the physical cells. Mans body contains carbon and various metallic elements that are present also in plants, metals and jewels.
(09:45:30) (Cris) The discoveries of the rishis in these fields will doubtless receive conformation some day from Physiologists. Man’s sensitive body, with its electrical life currents, is a center for many mysteries yet unexplored.
(09:45:56) (Cris) Edgar Cayce shed some light on this mechanism of “electromagnetic influence” in a few of the readings that he gave. In one given for a person with latent psychic abilities, we find:
(09:46:11) (Cris) The following is from another reading
(09:46:31) (Cris) Q – 9 You will examine the lapis stones, which I hold telling which is the most powerful for the various uses it may be used for. You will explain these various uses and recommend those that would be most helpful.
(09:46:57) (Cris) The answer is rather long
(09:47:01) (Cris) A – 9 In giving that which may be helpful it is necessary for this mind or body seeking same, that there be given rather the analysis of the composition of the stones as related to their vibrations – as relate then to a human body, see?
(09:47:29) (Cris) Either of these shows a variation of their compositions. As to the elements of those influences that make for vibrations in the ether as related to that which may be effective in drawing to or disseminating from – through, of course, the vibrations being… of the positive and negative natures in the very stone itself – making for, then, the analytic
(09:47:49) (Cris) knowing same by what is called constituents of it through the mineralogy the activity through those channels themselves. We would then find the one that was nearer in accord to the vibrations of the body that may use same would be the most effective with that particular body.
(09:48:24) (Cris) Yet the very nature of the stone makes it effective with any human body,
(09:48:44) (Cris) you see, but the more effective with one that is more in accord, or whose positive and negative vibrations are according with the stone itself, see? For the stone throws off as well as draws in through the positive negative vibration. This assists then in the unison as a relationship. This is a comparison, don’t confuse it and say it is electricity.
(09:49:19) (Cris) The relationship is electrical of course in its vibration bus as the stone in its vibration is then in sympathy with a body that is also sympathetic – or may be said to be sensitive.
(09:49:41) (Cris) The stone assists in stepping up the sensitiveness of the body; as would the electrical vibration in alternating force step up by the addition of… forces of electrical vibration being thrown off from other channels making it more powerful. See? Step up towards what?
(09:50:09) (Cris) Towards the effectiveness in its sensitiveness (that is the body) as to what it may be seeking. Hence, as given as old, use such for the abilities to become (grow towards) more of all those influences called in the present psychic, clairaudient, or any of those vibrations that build up or step up a body.
(09:50:28) (Cris) (These vibrations) are also effective, of course, in bringing to the body the abilities to become more effective in giving out itself for activity in any of these various directions.
(09:51:22) (Cris) from Reading 440-18 M. 24 born 4/24/10
(09:51:47) (Roz) most interesting
(09:51:51) (Cris) Another reading states:
(09:52:10) (Cris) The very elements of body – through which spirit and mind manifest – are atomic in their nature. Hence so are the elements of this stone indicated, that partakes of mot of the elements that are to man of great influence or power, because of their representation in the body.
(09:52:34) (Cris) partakes of most of the elements
(09:52:51) (Cris) Hence the radical activity of radium, as well of the strengthening influences of gold, the stabilizing influence of silver, are all part of those elements that make the transmission through the activity of the very vibratory forces of themselves…
(09:54:06) (Cris) From : Reading 1931-11931-1 M. 20 BORN 9/11/19
(09:54:26) (Cris) Stones and metals for attunement
(09:54:48) (Cris) Vibratory forces arising from certain stones and metals collaborate with similar forces originating within individuals to permit them to attune to the Creative Forces of the universe.
(09:55:01) (Cris) In this way men may receive and transmit healing vibrations, spiritualize their desires, or obtain food for soul development, to mention a few possibilities. The following reading excerpts illustrate this point:
(09:55:45) (Cris) (it is) Well this entity may have the stones or minerals about self when in periods of meditation or in those periods when it may find itself more easily attunes to the influences that may use the body, either in the healing forces that flow through – through its attunements
(09:55:59) (Cris) or through the vision and associations of the entity; (have) the crysolite or the amethyst. For the color purple shall be close to the body; and the perfumes or odors as of lavender have their influence – not as in great quantity but (in) that (quality) which makes for attunements
(09:56:30) (Cris) From Reading: 688-2 F 61 born 6/23/1873
(09:57:51) (Cris) This is a lot to digest if you aren't into rocks or minerals so I thought I'd stop here for the evening and answer any questions
(09:58:19) (Blu) I would really like to know which stones do what
(09:58:42) (Roz) oil of Lavender helps my knee
(09:59:02) (mark) there's amethyst around here
(09:59:13) (merri) how does one determine which stone is most suited to them? Trial & error?
(09:59:24) (Cris) Are you talking about a specific stone or a particular ailment that you can address with a healing stone?
(09:59:47) (Blu) Yes, of course I am thinking of WIS and his heart
(09:59:49) (ron) it might be nice to distribute a small collection of EC stones and their meanings for those that would be interested in such an opportunity
(09:59:57) (mark) what of Birth stones?
(10:00:05) (ron) at some some purchase
(10:00:21) (ron) sorry, left out the word purchase
(10:00:31) (Cris) There are guidebooks out on the market but since stones can be dual purpose you often need to see which will work with your body frequency
(10:00:40) (Blu) ok
(10:01:11) (Cris) Let me look it up for you
(10:01:13) (Cris) brb
(10:01:16) (Roz) I find perfect stones work best for me
(10:01:30) (Blu) He hee, and they cost more!
(10:02:12) (merri) I find myself drawn to lapis
(10:02:54) (merri) but don't know if it does any enhancing for me
(10:03:05) (mark) i like opal
(10:03:42) (Cris) What kind of heart ailment? that will determine the stones
(10:03:46) (Blu) I wear a lapis necklace, eariings and bracelet when I feel I am not getting enoughaps!
(10:03:54) (Cris) Silver is healing for the heart
(10:03:58) (Blu) He has conjestive heart failure
(10:04:11) (Blu) He wears a lot of silver
(10:05:03) (Cris) Carnelian and ruitlated quartz are also reccomended
(10:05:20) (Blu) what is ruitalated?
(10:05:28) (Cris) rutilated quartz
(10:05:50) (Cris) that is quartz with rutile crystals growing in the quartz
(10:06:09) (mark) that sounds cool
(10:06:09) (Blu) I have never heard of that
(10:06:24) (Cris) They can be bought at most gem and mineral shows for a reasonable amount
(10:06:29) (Blu) wear it near the heart?
(10:06:40) (merri) anyone have a website where stones can be bought?
(10:07:11) (Cris) wear it around the affected area
(10:07:14) (mark) www.mineralminers.com/html/rtqmins.stm
(10:07:21) (Cris) or in a pocket
(10:08:31) (Cris) You can go to Lapidary Journal and click on upcoming shows or events to see where the dealers will be
(10:08:54) (Cris) They list minerals shows all over the US and Canada
(10:09:11) (merri) good idea Cris
(10:09:18) (merri) thanks mark
(10:09:57) (Cris) You will get your best prices by checking out all the dealers before you buy prices can vary greatly
(10:10:04) (Bill) RUTILATED QUARTZ contains acicular yellow and red Rutile crystals, and the rutilation manifests itself in interesting random patterns that, besides being really neat to look at, also help as focus points for you thus good for such concentrated efforts as in APing or scrying. Also called Tourmalined Quartz. Rutile can be found in most Quartzes, and has its own file above. The inclusion Black Tourmaline, is not the same as the inclusion Rutile.
(10:12:40) (Bill) www.denelder.com/crystals/rutquartz.htm
(10:12:54) (Bill) this site has all the rocks and crstals
(10:13:25) (Cris) Bill I think there is rutilated quartz in BC
(10:13:43) (Bill) yes Cris i have some
(10:15:24) (Cris) Charoite also helps heart function
(10:15:54) (Cris) It reenergizes the body
(10:16:16) (ernie) i need one of those
(10:17:02) (Wanda) me too
(10:17:18) (Roz) what does Charoite look like
(10:17:34) (Cris) As we go through the EC book on Gems and Stones the readings will give the EC reccomendations
(10:17:53) (Blu) cool
(10:18:02) (Cris) It's a purple stone from Russia
(10:18:17) (Roz) oh okie
(10:18:30) (WalksInSpirit) Cool, Cris!
(10:18:31) (BrightEyes) purple stone from Russia ... sounds pretty
(10:18:37) (Cris) It's sort of mottled but takes a decent polish
(10:19:03) (Cris) worn as a cabechon it makes nice jewelry
(10:19:13) (Roz) does the place of orgin affect its propertity
(10:19:28) (WalksInSpirit) So, it's not a translucent stone, then?
(10:19:32) (Bill) all are of the same origin :o)
(10:20:03) (Roz) oh ?
(10:21:03) (Cris) Not those I've come in contact with but remember the stones are imported so the best go the highest markets first
(10:21:39) (Cris) It cuts very well
(10:21:58) (Bill) well the plants are calling for water they like to drink in 100 dgre. weather L&L TY Cris Good Job here this evening!
(10:22:58) (Roz) Good job Cris
(10:23:13) (Cris) Thanks for having me]
(10:23:23) (ron) very good Cris
(10:23:24) (Blu) I like this topic
(10:23:27) (Roz) glad youre a host
(10:24:12) (mark) thanks for chat Cris
(10:24:21) (WalksInSpirit) Cris, great info and great presentation!
(10:24:37) (Cris) Thanks
(09:24:30) (Roz) good plan
(09:24:38) (Cris) This is an ARE chat so that book should be featured as a starting point
(09:24:47) (Blu) Cool Cris
(09:25:09) (Bill) yup just checked the schedual says Cris and her healing stones there :o)
(09:25:14) (Cris) We will begin this series by going through the book, Gems and Stones, based on the Edgar Cayce Readings. It is an appropriate guide for an ARE chat session. Edgar Cayce often mentioned the influence of stones in his readings.
(09:25:36) (Cris) If you have any questions about the series feel free to ask
(09:26:14) (Cris) Tonight I'll start the preface andintroduction
(09:26:32) (Cris) Some of the sentences and wording of the book may be long because the text came directly from the transcribed readings. If you do not understand a passage stop me and I’ll explain it.
(09:27:04) (Cris) The introduction is the Philosophy of the Edgar Cayce Readings.
(09:27:31) (Cris) When discussing the areas of psychic experience approached by means of gem vibrations, astrology, numerology, hypnosis, automatic writing etc., the Cayce discourses insist that these were not psychic toys, but tools, if which used correctly, could be extremely helpful in spiritual development. If abused or used for selfish purposes they could “turn and rend” the user.
(09:28:23) (Cris) In studying the readings on the occult influences of gems, stones and metals with the object of putting the information to personal use, you should have a general idea of the philosophical background of his psychic discourses.
(09:29:04) (Cris) The philosophy of the readings is often described as universal. That is, it is not at odds with any major philosophy or religion and in its structure, contains elements of various schools of thought. It combines and reconciles the mysticism and introspection of the East with the social consciousness and evangelism of Western Christianity. From the purely religious standpoint, Jesus Christ is it apex.
(09:29:45) (Cris) Human life, the readings assert, is a temporary phase of eternal life of the soul – experienced by choice or necessity for the purpose of gaining understanding and progress towards perfection required for full reunion with God. Through series of experiences in various planes of consciousness, including the earth, the soul is said to become aware and obedient to divine law.
(09:30:30) (Cris) The readings encourage an individual search for both understanding and application of spiritual law, repeatedly paraphrasing Saint James epistle with the warning, “Knowledge not lived is a sin!” An immediate goal of such searching would be the solution of all practical problems of life, - spiritual law being superior to all physical laws.
(09:31:36) (Cris) Meditation and prayer combined with creative action – or in other words, translated into service – are asserted to be the keys to understanding the power resulting from it. The user will notice that the vibrations of certain semi-precious stones are said to be aids in the practice of meditation. Other gems, stones and metals are pointed out as having highly individual effects, both spiritual and physical for people who ca discover the type best suited to their own electrodynamic character.
(09:32:08) (Cris) The object of this study is not to recommend any particular gem or stone for individual. Rather it presents the criteria to be found in the Cayce readings by which an individual can investigate, test and choose that which is beneficial to his own case.
(09:32:42) (Cris) This is the end of the introduction. Are there any questions?
(09:37:01) (Cris) The employment of gems, stones and metals for influencing a variety of physical, mental and spiritual conditions in man was once an exact and highly developed science. The science is at present greatly corrupted from its former state, and at a very low level. It is the purpose of the Cayce study to present new knowledge “new” to our time on the occult properties of gems, stones and metals – knowledge that was obtained through Edgar Cayce from what the readings
(09:37:38) (Cris) The importance that this branch of knowledge has had I the past and the benefits that can be derived from its study in the present are indicated in the following passages from the readings:
(09:38:05) (Cris) The following is from a reading
(09:38:19) (Cris) Q-5 What should my hobby be?
(09:38:42) (Cris) A-5 The gathering of data of the nature that is unusual, respecting the jewels of all characters: how that some have played such a part in love affairs, in the life and death and home and in the empire building for some lands. Few realize how much part of some of these have played I this land, or in England, or in France, or in Persia, India, Hindustan and the crown jewels in Russia. All of these and the data of it, would be a lovely hobby – and bring those vibrations of good for the body.
(09:39:59) (Cris) This is from a second reading:
(09:40:11) (Cris) Q-12 Why were these stones mentioned to me in the beginning?
(09:40:27) (Cris) A-12 They are as those things of old, which if followed…may be used as stepping-stones for the understanding of vibrations as related to the mineral forces and as to man.
(09:41:10) (Roz) puts a new understanding on this subject Cris
(09:41:19) (Cris) EC believed that using stones and metals was a forgotton art
(09:42:04) (Cris) Even today the idea is often scoffed at even when people see results
(09:43:13) (Cris) Most of us can visualize power centers in places like Sedona but we don't realize earth objects such as stones are also conductors of energy
(09:43:32) (Cris) Mechanism of Influence
(09:43:53) (Roz) got a lot to learn yet
(09:44:01) (Cris) There are no modern day scientific theories that treat this mechanism by which gems, tones and metals transmit influences to human beings. Many of us however would like to know more about the phenomenon.
(09:44:43) (Cris) A very few of our number appear t have actually apprehended the underlying truths: consider for instance, the words of the great yogi Paramahansa Yogananda
(09:45:11) (Cris) Pearl and other jewels as well as metals and plants applied directly to the human skin, exercise an electromagnetic influence over the physical cells. Mans body contains carbon and various metallic elements that are present also in plants, metals and jewels.
(09:45:30) (Cris) The discoveries of the rishis in these fields will doubtless receive conformation some day from Physiologists. Man’s sensitive body, with its electrical life currents, is a center for many mysteries yet unexplored.
(09:45:56) (Cris) Edgar Cayce shed some light on this mechanism of “electromagnetic influence” in a few of the readings that he gave. In one given for a person with latent psychic abilities, we find:
(09:46:11) (Cris) The following is from another reading
(09:46:31) (Cris) Q – 9 You will examine the lapis stones, which I hold telling which is the most powerful for the various uses it may be used for. You will explain these various uses and recommend those that would be most helpful.
(09:46:57) (Cris) The answer is rather long
(09:47:01) (Cris) A – 9 In giving that which may be helpful it is necessary for this mind or body seeking same, that there be given rather the analysis of the composition of the stones as related to their vibrations – as relate then to a human body, see?
(09:47:29) (Cris) Either of these shows a variation of their compositions. As to the elements of those influences that make for vibrations in the ether as related to that which may be effective in drawing to or disseminating from – through, of course, the vibrations being… of the positive and negative natures in the very stone itself – making for, then, the analytic
(09:47:49) (Cris) knowing same by what is called constituents of it through the mineralogy the activity through those channels themselves. We would then find the one that was nearer in accord to the vibrations of the body that may use same would be the most effective with that particular body.
(09:48:24) (Cris) Yet the very nature of the stone makes it effective with any human body,
(09:48:44) (Cris) you see, but the more effective with one that is more in accord, or whose positive and negative vibrations are according with the stone itself, see? For the stone throws off as well as draws in through the positive negative vibration. This assists then in the unison as a relationship. This is a comparison, don’t confuse it and say it is electricity.
(09:49:19) (Cris) The relationship is electrical of course in its vibration bus as the stone in its vibration is then in sympathy with a body that is also sympathetic – or may be said to be sensitive.
(09:49:41) (Cris) The stone assists in stepping up the sensitiveness of the body; as would the electrical vibration in alternating force step up by the addition of… forces of electrical vibration being thrown off from other channels making it more powerful. See? Step up towards what?
(09:50:09) (Cris) Towards the effectiveness in its sensitiveness (that is the body) as to what it may be seeking. Hence, as given as old, use such for the abilities to become (grow towards) more of all those influences called in the present psychic, clairaudient, or any of those vibrations that build up or step up a body.
(09:50:28) (Cris) (These vibrations) are also effective, of course, in bringing to the body the abilities to become more effective in giving out itself for activity in any of these various directions.
(09:51:22) (Cris) from Reading 440-18 M. 24 born 4/24/10
(09:51:47) (Roz) most interesting
(09:51:51) (Cris) Another reading states:
(09:52:10) (Cris) The very elements of body – through which spirit and mind manifest – are atomic in their nature. Hence so are the elements of this stone indicated, that partakes of mot of the elements that are to man of great influence or power, because of their representation in the body.
(09:52:34) (Cris) partakes of most of the elements
(09:52:51) (Cris) Hence the radical activity of radium, as well of the strengthening influences of gold, the stabilizing influence of silver, are all part of those elements that make the transmission through the activity of the very vibratory forces of themselves…
(09:54:06) (Cris) From : Reading 1931-11931-1 M. 20 BORN 9/11/19
(09:54:26) (Cris) Stones and metals for attunement
(09:54:48) (Cris) Vibratory forces arising from certain stones and metals collaborate with similar forces originating within individuals to permit them to attune to the Creative Forces of the universe.
(09:55:01) (Cris) In this way men may receive and transmit healing vibrations, spiritualize their desires, or obtain food for soul development, to mention a few possibilities. The following reading excerpts illustrate this point:
(09:55:45) (Cris) (it is) Well this entity may have the stones or minerals about self when in periods of meditation or in those periods when it may find itself more easily attunes to the influences that may use the body, either in the healing forces that flow through – through its attunements
(09:55:59) (Cris) or through the vision and associations of the entity; (have) the crysolite or the amethyst. For the color purple shall be close to the body; and the perfumes or odors as of lavender have their influence – not as in great quantity but (in) that (quality) which makes for attunements
(09:56:30) (Cris) From Reading: 688-2 F 61 born 6/23/1873
(09:57:51) (Cris) This is a lot to digest if you aren't into rocks or minerals so I thought I'd stop here for the evening and answer any questions
(09:58:19) (Blu) I would really like to know which stones do what
(09:58:42) (Roz) oil of Lavender helps my knee
(09:59:02) (mark) there's amethyst around here
(09:59:13) (merri) how does one determine which stone is most suited to them? Trial & error?
(09:59:24) (Cris) Are you talking about a specific stone or a particular ailment that you can address with a healing stone?
(09:59:47) (Blu) Yes, of course I am thinking of WIS and his heart
(09:59:49) (ron) it might be nice to distribute a small collection of EC stones and their meanings for those that would be interested in such an opportunity
(09:59:57) (mark) what of Birth stones?
(10:00:05) (ron) at some some purchase
(10:00:21) (ron) sorry, left out the word purchase
(10:00:31) (Cris) There are guidebooks out on the market but since stones can be dual purpose you often need to see which will work with your body frequency
(10:00:40) (Blu) ok
(10:01:11) (Cris) Let me look it up for you
(10:01:13) (Cris) brb
(10:01:16) (Roz) I find perfect stones work best for me
(10:01:30) (Blu) He hee, and they cost more!
(10:02:12) (merri) I find myself drawn to lapis
(10:02:54) (merri) but don't know if it does any enhancing for me
(10:03:05) (mark) i like opal
(10:03:42) (Cris) What kind of heart ailment? that will determine the stones
(10:03:46) (Blu) I wear a lapis necklace, eariings and bracelet when I feel I am not getting enoughaps!
(10:03:54) (Cris) Silver is healing for the heart
(10:03:58) (Blu) He has conjestive heart failure
(10:04:11) (Blu) He wears a lot of silver
(10:05:03) (Cris) Carnelian and ruitlated quartz are also reccomended
(10:05:20) (Blu) what is ruitalated?
(10:05:28) (Cris) rutilated quartz
(10:05:50) (Cris) that is quartz with rutile crystals growing in the quartz
(10:06:09) (mark) that sounds cool
(10:06:09) (Blu) I have never heard of that
(10:06:24) (Cris) They can be bought at most gem and mineral shows for a reasonable amount
(10:06:29) (Blu) wear it near the heart?
(10:06:40) (merri) anyone have a website where stones can be bought?
(10:07:11) (Cris) wear it around the affected area
(10:07:14) (mark) www.mineralminers.com/html/rtqmins.stm
(10:07:21) (Cris) or in a pocket
(10:08:31) (Cris) You can go to Lapidary Journal and click on upcoming shows or events to see where the dealers will be
(10:08:54) (Cris) They list minerals shows all over the US and Canada
(10:09:11) (merri) good idea Cris
(10:09:18) (merri) thanks mark
(10:09:57) (Cris) You will get your best prices by checking out all the dealers before you buy prices can vary greatly
(10:10:04) (Bill) RUTILATED QUARTZ contains acicular yellow and red Rutile crystals, and the rutilation manifests itself in interesting random patterns that, besides being really neat to look at, also help as focus points for you thus good for such concentrated efforts as in APing or scrying. Also called Tourmalined Quartz. Rutile can be found in most Quartzes, and has its own file above. The inclusion Black Tourmaline, is not the same as the inclusion Rutile.
(10:12:40) (Bill) www.denelder.com/crystals/rutquartz.htm
(10:12:54) (Bill) this site has all the rocks and crstals
(10:13:25) (Cris) Bill I think there is rutilated quartz in BC
(10:13:43) (Bill) yes Cris i have some
(10:15:24) (Cris) Charoite also helps heart function
(10:15:54) (Cris) It reenergizes the body
(10:16:16) (ernie) i need one of those
(10:17:02) (Wanda) me too
(10:17:18) (Roz) what does Charoite look like
(10:17:34) (Cris) As we go through the EC book on Gems and Stones the readings will give the EC reccomendations
(10:17:53) (Blu) cool
(10:18:02) (Cris) It's a purple stone from Russia
(10:18:17) (Roz) oh okie
(10:18:30) (WalksInSpirit) Cool, Cris!
(10:18:31) (BrightEyes) purple stone from Russia ... sounds pretty
(10:18:37) (Cris) It's sort of mottled but takes a decent polish
(10:19:03) (Cris) worn as a cabechon it makes nice jewelry
(10:19:13) (Roz) does the place of orgin affect its propertity
(10:19:28) (WalksInSpirit) So, it's not a translucent stone, then?
(10:19:32) (Bill) all are of the same origin :o)
(10:20:03) (Roz) oh ?
(10:21:03) (Cris) Not those I've come in contact with but remember the stones are imported so the best go the highest markets first
(10:21:39) (Cris) It cuts very well
(10:21:58) (Bill) well the plants are calling for water they like to drink in 100 dgre. weather L&L TY Cris Good Job here this evening!
(10:22:58) (Roz) Good job Cris
(10:23:13) (Cris) Thanks for having me]
(10:23:23) (ron) very good Cris
(10:23:24) (Blu) I like this topic
(10:23:27) (Roz) glad youre a host
(10:24:12) (mark) thanks for chat Cris
(10:24:21) (WalksInSpirit) Cris, great info and great presentation!
(10:24:37) (Cris) Thanks