Post by WalksInSpirit on Oct 25, 2005 21:57:22 GMT -5
Health Chat: 10-25-05
"The Nervous System, Part II"
(08:16:23) (Analaya) Nick I dont get to chat long and was wondering what info you had to give on how smoking effects the nervious system
(08:17:52) (Host_Nick) It constricts the blood-brain barrier by its vasoconstrictive effects. Now, some conditions can be helped by smoking organic, no chemicals added tobacco. However no blanket statements can be made in the nervous cases.
(08:18:50) (Host_Nick) That is nervous conditions are matters in which the individual's constitution, condition and current state determine the methods of treatment.
(08:19:11) (Anonymous) anything to sooth my fathers shingles. cayce hardly had any reading on this nerve condition
(08:19:41) (Host_Nick) For this you need an experienced naturopath, an MD or an experiened shaman energy healer.
(08:21:27) (Anonymous) was that in answer to my question Nick
(08:21:53) (Host_Nick) This is a condition of over-irritation of the sensory nervous system. treating the nerves takes time and patience. Avoid any foods which may irritate the digestive system (hot, alcohol, even coffee) and also food combinations which will acidify the blood.
(08:22:09) (Analaya) "I Am" to quit smoking, today my last day and I have been testy this evening
(08:22:26) (Host_Nick) That's cool, glad you are quitting :o)
(08:22:42) (Host_Nick) Your lungs will bless you :o)
(08:23:05) (Analaya) Thanks
(08:23:46) (Anonymous) and thanks from me too
(08:24:02) (Host_Nick) After you quit smoking you will notice that your blood color changes to a bright scarlet red. This is easily oxygenated blood, designed to bring the energy of air, oxygen and its "prana" to every one of your cells. :o)
(08:24:08) (friend_to_mankind) You can do all things through Christ who strengthens you
(08:24:29) (Analaya) It is wierd how my lower self works with smoking
(08:24:42) (Analaya) Yes Friend, Thanks
(08:24:57) (Analaya) I need support
(08:25:25) (Host_Nick) Avoid any nervous system irritants, this includes my beloved coffee for example. :o(ººººººººººººº
(08:26:06) (Host_Nick) Green tea gives you a much more stable frame of mind. Ño=
(08:26:23) (Analaya) okay
(08:26:38) (Analaya) I have heard lobila helps
(08:26:53) (Analaya) does the same things in the brain that smoking does
(08:27:39) (Host_Nick) Oops, that is :o) if you can find organic green tea with jasmine, you will find great mental energy as well as good anticarcinogens and a tooth decay inhibitor as well as a nervous system balance.
(08:28:02) (Analaya) cool
(08:28:41) (Roz) and it tastes good
(08:29:17) (Host_Nick) It is the care for the blood-brain barrier, which determines our nervous condition.
(08:30:47) (Host_Nick) At its extreme, a nervous system burnout becomes what was known in Edgar Cayce's time as neurasthenia.
(08:31:26) (Host_Nick) Yes, we have her here. She is a neurasthenic. This is a condition here of the nerve force in the body, - of the whole system, that is, action on to the other organisms of the physical body and mental too, at times, especially do we have most of the action shown in its forces to the physical body, through the action on to the lung here; to the forces here through the pelvis, to the lower extremities, acting on to the locomotories of the system,
(08:32:54) (Host_Nick) This is from an Edgar Cayce reading: 17-1; notice that the entire functioning of the organs in the body is affected by this nervous disorder.
(08:33:48) (Host_Nick) to the lower extremities, acting on to the locomotories of the system, or forces which govern the lower extremities here from the pelvis, on the inside here, along to the lower limbs, and especially at the knees on the side here, along the line of the sciatic nerve, acting in conjunction with the sciatic nerves from the appendages thereof, here at the joints.
(08:34:31) (Roz) Nick would you discuss the autonomic nervous system which controls meditation
(08:34:46) (Host_Nick) Notice how the 'locomotories" are so affected as is the breathing by this nervous condition.(08:36:02) (Host_Nick) I would love to Roz, but it would take volumes of an encyclopedia. Yet this reading clearly shows that they do indeed affect each other, that is, it is a two way building relationship :o)
(08:36:15) (patricia) Nick, what did Cayce recommend for this condition?
(08:37:05) (Host_Nick) The action on the forces here, through the lung, is through the respiratory system, or more to the lymphatic circulation, with its nerve appendages to it here, in the action of the air into the lung, which forces out, or the action of the same force on to the action of the heart, or through the blood force, where the blood is cleansed or purified by the air in the lungs. Therefore, we have some of the cells in the lower part of the lung,
(08:38:11) (Host_Nick) It appears here that a nervous condition will show up sooner as a respiratory illness than elsewhere in the body.
(08:38:49) (Host_Nick) Therefore, we have some of the cells in the lower part of the lung, closed, from the action of the force of the nerves proper in the system, wherein the force of action in itself is Neurasthenic - in the acting force in itself or from the mental action between the nerve and self proper, or to the branches of those effected by the Neurasthenia, to the action of the sympathetic nerve system and the cerebrospinal.
(08:38:52) (Atom) what was meant by,... some of the cells in the lower part of the lung,
(08:39:22) (Atom) cells of what?
(08:39:43) (Host_Nick) An incipient lung condition is developing because of the failure of the nervous system in this case.
(08:39:59) (Atom) ok ty Nick
(08:40:11) (Host_Nick) A tubercular condition, perhaps? a sclerosis of the lung tissue.
(08:40:16) (Q) what does self proper mean.. ?
(08:40:40) (Host_Nick) The individual's intent
(08:41:55) (Host_Nick) There are other conditions arising at times in the system from the condition of the whole body, as we have through the capillary circulation at times, throwing out discharges from these in abrasions on the skin from the exterior, but these all come from the troubles we have in the system through the nerve force.
(08:42:28) (Host_Nick) This is 17-1, from 20th February of 1911.
(08:43:11) (Host_Nick) That is the condition between the physical body and its appendages on the system, with the circulation and nerve tissue here, and muscles, or to the mental body with its brain and appendages, and nerve force through the system. The action then in these forces the neurasthenic condition - a condition existing either by physical means, brought to action on the body through the nerve action on the physical system
(08:44:30) (Host_Nick) This entire readings, although from one of Edgar Cayce's first recorded ones; recites exactly what would happen to a nervous system which no longer has the protection of the blood-brain barrier.
(08:45:16) (Analaya) Blessing Be Upon Everone Here, As This Virtual Meeting Place Be Lifted Into The Heavens
(08:45:47) (friend_to_mankind) Amen
(08:45:53) (Host_Nick) Q: What conditions would you 'prescribe' to cure it?
(08:46:02) (Host_Nick) (A) Hot applications to the solar plexus nerve center at the ninth dorsal; electrical forces followed after all along the whole spine, and make an impression to the mind, through the mind in itself, or action of one mind on another, and it will quit it. One is action to the physical body, with application you see; throw off this coldness here to the feet.
(08:46:29) (Host_Nick) Note the ninth dorsal, the area where the adrenal glands are located.
(08:46:52) (Q) action of one mind on another?
(08:47:03) (Q) prayer maybe ?
(08:47:12) (ernie) talk to oneself
(08:47:28) (Q) affirmations then ernie?
(08:47:35) (ernie) to ones cells tell them to get better
(08:47:41) (ernie) ?
(08:47:44) (Host_Nick) Get away this soreness here, or burning at the stomach, or heartburn in the system. Eliminate that from the system through the physical means, the action of the electrical forces, that is static, on to the body here along the spine and the whole body to its finger tips, along the limbs, along the line of the sciatic nerve force, along the limbs, extremities where they come in contact with these nerve forces, rebuilding in the body, at the armpits where
(08:47:54) (ernie) i m just flapping i dont know
(08:48:49) (WalksInSpirit) Yes, Ernie. There's reccent studies by Russian DNA experts that say that our cells are like small computer chips, and can be re-programmed by us talking to them.
(08:48:54) (Host_Nick) This paragraph, seems to indicate a systematic program of massage, to ease the energy buildups, and also hints at something like acupuncture
(08:49:08) (ernie) ok
(08:49:39) (Q) static electricity.. the electrical forces , that is static?
(08:49:56) (Roz) or electrical stimulation
(08:50:17) (Bill) static drag your ft. across the floor
(08:50:18) (Host_Nick) Q: Is there any other treatment you would 'prescribe'?
(08:50:26) (Host_Nick) (A) When we eliminate these forces, we produce a condition in the system, or the body becomes stronger in itself. As we have in the system, a digestion here, but the new blood in the body is fairly good, except at times we have a state in the lung of the force producing this non-clarification of the bl
(08:50:35) (Q) Should have a Cayce dictionary on easily misunderstood meanings.. lol. it might help.
(08:51:02) (Host_Nick) except at times we have a state in the lung of the force producing this non-clarification of the blood, - forced back in the heart with particles here left in the cells, closed, and become then particles through the hepatic circulation; forced in there, producing a condition we have in the body
(08:51:35) (Host_Nick) These distribute in the forces in the body, producing abrasions of the skin, on the outside. Remove these forces from the physical and mental body, then we remove the forces from the body and produce then a clarified condition of the system, and the rest of the body will be in a better condition.
(08:52:10) (Host_Nick) Note carefully: the production of abrasions of the skin due to a condition of no nervous sensitivity.
(08:53:02) (Q) non-clarification of blood.. is that blood that is not oxygenated?
(08:53:13) (Host_Nick) That is: we need the sensitivity of our nerves in order to heal. This requires a diet a step above the hamburgers, french fries and milkshakes we have been conditioned to consume :o)
(08:54:16) (Host_Nick) 17-1 concludes with the question: Q: What condition is the mind in at present?
(08:55:00) (Host_Nick) (A) The mind is alright, if it will act. The condition of the mind is acted on by the mental force into the brain in itself, producing the condition we have now, of the neurasthenic, we have hundreds of them here. The action of the nerve force on the brain itself proper, and it thinks it is sicker than it is.
(08:56:07) (Olivia) truly that is why animals heal quickly
(08:56:44) (Host_Nick) This perhaps explains more the relationship between the intent and the mind as opposed to the idea that we are but slaves to our blood chemistry.
(08:57:13) (Host_Nick) This does not mean y'all can go out an consume Hostess Twinkies! :oO
(08:57:31) (Host_Nick) Nor eat sugars and meats at the same meal! :oOOOO
(08:57:59) (Cris) How about pumpkin Pie - that's a vegetable
(08:58:18) (Host_Nick) That is great stuff, Cris :o)
(08:58:57) (Roz) pumpkin is a fruit
(08:59:11) (Q) whats non-clarification of blood ?
(08:59:45) (Cris) You are probably right Roz
(08:59:57) (Bill) not eating enough cellery and lettuce Q
(09:00:06) (Host_Nick) It is the reduced interaction between the oil layer and the water layer of the blood emulsion, Qrious
(09:01:05) (Q) oil layer.. hmm.. is that the dross that Cayce mentions or is it just a normal stuff in blood emulsion?
(09:02:23) (Host_Nick) That is, a nervous condition requires a long term healing program because of the different chemical speeds of reaction between the water based chemistry of most cells, and the slow-reacting oil-based chemistry of the nervous system.
(09:03:45) (Q) oh.. so the chemistry in our nervous system iss always be delayed because of its chemical makeup?
(09:05:14) (Host_Nick) Yes, the transportation of nutrients and the removal of wastes from the nervous system is averaging 1,000 slower than the normal Krebs cycle ATP = ADP energy conversion by the rest of the cells in the body for example.
(09:05:14) (Host_Nick) Yes, the transportation of nutrients and the removal of wastes from the nervous system is averaging 1,000 slower than the normal Krebs cycle ATP = ADP energy conversion by the rest of the cells in the body for example.
(09:05:53) (Q) probably done so that you wouldn't go into shock with system overloads..
(09:06:01) (Host_Nick) ATP = adenosine tri-phosphate; ADP = adenosine di-phosphate
(09:07:01) (Host_Nick) That is the Krebs cycle of our cells makes energy by bfreaking up a phosphate molecule from ATP, making it into ADP, which has only two phopshates.
(09:08:00) (Host_Nick) Now, this reaction is almost instantaneous, its prceeds so fast that our cells have the "chemical bulldozers" ready to remove the wastes before the reaction even takes place.
(09:09:05) (Host_Nick) Our nervous system does not have this luxury, this is why the blood-brain barrier exists. To ensure that only those nutrients which are specific to the nervous system enter.
(09:09:49) (Q) so it acts like a filter.. then.
(09:10:05) (Roz) blood-brain barrier being what?
(09:10:25) (Host_Nick) Our slow nervous system, needs a lot of care and attention to be in the best of condition. Overwork among other things starts the wasting away of this delicately tuned system.
(09:11:35) (Q) and just how is this system effective if it is not used? How do we avoid overtaxing it?
(09:12:07) (Host_Nick) The blood-brain barrier is composed of the memeranes which enclose the brain and the spinal chord. The memebranes which enclose the nerves can also be said to belong to this. Tpogether they enclose the delicate fatty nerve cells from the turbulent speedy chemicals which make up our water based layers.
(09:12:58) (Host_Nick) OK, has nayone any questions?
(09:13:25) (Q) I thought the protective layers were called manges.. oh. well.
(09:13:37) (Raleigh) nervois ststem huh
(09:13:57) (Roz) is theis membrane the mylin
(09:14:21) (Raleigh) what is a calming agent for nervios system nick
(09:14:21) (Host_Nick) The meninges, yes, I think these apply to the brain membranes, yet there are others.
(09:14:56) (Q) I thought the mylin is what protects the brain spinal area..
(09:15:13) (Host_Nick) Quiet, almost condition of sensory deprivation, like meditation, even prayer
(09:15:25) (Cris) It's what is eroded away with MS
(09:15:31) (Host_Nick) The myelin forms a sheath around the nerves
(09:16:40) (Host_Nick) The meninges form membranes around the brain and the spianl chord, or they merge into the membranes which protect the spianl chord, to be technically correct.
(09:16:54) (Raleigh) yes dark room huh /
(09:16:57) (Roz) what causes the erosion
(09:17:32) (Olivia) virus
(09:17:40) (Host_Nick) bacteria
(09:17:58) (Host_Nick) a chemical toxin like Mercury
(09:18:09) (Olivia) how true
(09:18:18) (Q) cool.. thanks Nick... so.. this nervous system will always be slow and we should plan on a long term recovery from whatever then.?
(09:18:18) (Raleigh) ok
(09:19:15) (Roz) or weed killer?
(09:19:28) (Host_Nick) The easiest way is to alkalinize the blood system. This allows for more of the oils and fats to be disolved in the water based layer of the blood than in an acidic blood condition.
(09:19:30) (Cris) The myelin sheath can recover hence remission of symptoms with MS
(09:19:49) (Raleigh) we played with mercury as kids nick / and i a dead man walking then ? / :)
(09:19:58) (WalksInSpirit) Cool, Cris! I didn't know that.
(09:20:11) (Cris) It doesn't always recover with some people
(09:20:35) (Host_Nick) A weed killer could do it, Roz, just like a fungicide or something used to mistakenly kill ants, who are great cleansers of the environment.
(09:21:07) (Roz) did do it
(09:21:45) (Host_Nick) This is true, Cris, however, the initial cause of the MS has to be removed, and the root cause of the overloads in neurological disorders is very difficult to nail down.
(09:22:28) (Cris) The experts are still out on agreeing about that and other neuromuscular diseases
(09:22:49) (Host_Nick) It almost seems like we could use a chat on 'Care for your blood-brain barrier
(09:22:53) (Host_Nick) :o)
(09:23:03) (Raleigh) gee nick / poor julie downstairs here has ms very bad and she is 30 so pretty / i gave her the ec suggestions
(09:23:33) (Anne) could it be karma , in flect it, know how it feels
(09:23:57) (Raleigh) yes karma ec said / yet there
(09:24:03) (Raleigh) yes anne
(09:25:29) (Host_Nick) In nearly all neurological disorders, (notable exception autism) the condition is one of disorder and chaos. The Edgar Cayce readings recommended that a person remain in a state of almost sensory deprivation. No human contact almost, only someone, a nurse of the same sex, to feed and clothe.
(09:25:55) (Cris) Ken's MG symptoms are helped with a proper diet, lots of rest and a lack of stress - the stresscan be a major factor
(09:26:23) (Cris) Staying on his medication
(09:26:26) (Host_Nick) This is a state where the disordered nervous system is being allowed to 'order itself' by not taking part in anything which is emotionally stimulating.
(09:27:51) (Host_Nick) Stress, disorders the nervous system, it is part of the stimulation - sympathetic reaction to the world, which we are all programmed to follow.
(09:28:24) (Raleigh) yes but the drive is the opposite nick ///
(09:28:57) (Raleigh) any questuions nik
(09:29:07) (Raleigh) on this subject
(09:29:19) (Raleigh) i know this topic
(09:29:39) (Raleigh) personally
(09:29:59) (Roz) you have only periods of manic not depression?Ral
(09:30:10) (Raleigh) yes
(09:30:31) (Host_Nick) The sympathetic drives the stimulation, it is the slowdown - parasympathetic system which gets burnt out first. This is why the sensory deprivation conditions and the refraining from any emotional situations is what is indicated in nervous overloead conditions such as Post-Traumatic-Shock-Disorder.
(09:30:40) (Raleigh) its ok
(09:30:44) (Raleigh) im ok
(09:32:05) (Q) are these real.. these Post- Whathaveyous.. cause they didn't seem to exist a two decades ago.. know what I mean.?
(09:32:37) (Host_Nick) It is now Open Chat
(09:33:05) (virtual_girl) thank you Nick, always interesting ! :o)
(09:33:20) (patricia) yes thank you Nick
(09:33:36) (Nick) Not quite sure what you meant, Q
(09:33:41) (WalksInSpirit) Nick, great info as usual! Thanks!
(09:34:42) (Q) these symtomatic psychomatic definitions of cases of Post - truamatic - whatchmacallits.. dont you think it might perhaps be made up.
(09:34:59) (Olivia) no Q
(09:35:00) (Raleigh) no q
(09:35:13) (Nick) There is so much more work to do on the nervous system Walks, I do not even know where to start. To think that electrocshock therapy is still a prescribed method of treatment is 'shocking'? :o)
(09:35:27) (virtual_girl) Q why do you think its made up?
(09:35:32) (patricia) no, Q they have always existed but there was just not a name for them
(09:36:20) (Q) Cause these moms that claim to have a disorder as a condition to kill there children is still a mystery to me.
(09:36:29) (Nick) No, Q, the nervous system has its own fight-or-flee reaction and this can harm the nervous system like injecting a gallon of expresso into your bloodstream.
(09:36:32) (WalksInSpirit) For real, Nick! I didn't know they still do that!
(09:36:51) (Raleigh) yes w
(09:37:11) (Bill) i think phycitrists make up a lot of disorders
(09:37:16) (Raleigh) worse w
(09:37:18) (Q) the adrenal gland.. yes I am aware of that Nick..
(09:37:23) (One) Yes Bill
(09:37:36) (Nick) It takes long time for the nervous system to recover, its chemistry is much slower than the 'take two of these and call me in the morning' approach to day-to-day medicine.
(09:37:37) (Olivia) the woman had schizophrenia Q
(09:38:22) (Raleigh) 1/3 stay same / 1/3 get better / 1/3 get worse nick
(09:38:28) (virtual_girl) until one goes through a 'disorder' themselves, me thinks you are unaware
(09:38:55) (WalksInSpirit) I had Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder after I was in the tornado. And I can tell you firsthand, it is real.
(09:39:05) (Nick) Probably true, virtual_girl, no one has the time to examine themselves.
(09:39:08) (Raleigh) ill bet walks
(09:39:17) (Q) And I have told a psychiatrist I wasn't afraid of dying.. so he writes down I am suicidal.. I told him that was upsurd.. but I think.. that the majority rules what is in the right mind.. and what normalicy is..
(09:39:19) (Raleigh) r u ok now walks?
(09:39:19) (Raleigh) r u ok now walks?
(09:39:40) (Von) I think the punishment, should fit the crime !!
(09:39:43) (WalksInSpirit) Yep, I'm ok now Ral. :-)
(09:39:53) (Nick) Did you heal your psychiatrist, Q? :o)
(09:39:54) (Raleigh) good / me too
(09:40:07) (Raleigh) q /
(09:40:14) (virtual_girl) when you are in the throws of a disorder, you cannot examine yourself....! :o)
(09:40:19) (Q) can you imagine.. hey doc.. I have been reincarnated.. he writes.. delusions of granduer.. it is a simply process..
(09:40:31) (Bill) make up a fictious name and next wk. there'll be a pill for it
(09:40:34) (Raleigh) yes ok q
(09:40:39) (merri) lol you are so right Q!
(09:41:12) (Q) when in the throws of a disorder.. you shouldn't get labels.. either.
(09:43:03) (Q) No .. Nick.. I didn't heal my psychiatrist.. he already had a symptom ready for me.. lol.
(09:43:07) (Nick) This is where modern medicine comes up short, the emphasis on a quick-fix fails to recognize that some illnesses will take time to heal. And most of these time-consuming ilnesses originate in an oils-fats disorder, which usuallyshows up in the nervous system.
(09:43:29) (virtual_girl) umm, approx. how long does it take for the system to heal?
(09:44:19) (Nick) Oh! a nervous psychological error! let us examine this case...:o)
(09:44:38) (virtual_girl) take yer time doc... LoL
(09:45:26) (Nick) Truely this arises from excessive consumption of Hostess Twinkies and Reese's Cups
(09:45:53) (Anne) to much sugar
(09:46:18) (Olivia) and soda Nick
(09:46:40) (Nick) And salt, and pepper, and white, and ............. would you believe it? MSG!
(08:17:52) (Host_Nick) It constricts the blood-brain barrier by its vasoconstrictive effects. Now, some conditions can be helped by smoking organic, no chemicals added tobacco. However no blanket statements can be made in the nervous cases.
(08:18:50) (Host_Nick) That is nervous conditions are matters in which the individual's constitution, condition and current state determine the methods of treatment.
(08:19:11) (Anonymous) anything to sooth my fathers shingles. cayce hardly had any reading on this nerve condition
(08:19:41) (Host_Nick) For this you need an experienced naturopath, an MD or an experiened shaman energy healer.
(08:21:27) (Anonymous) was that in answer to my question Nick
(08:21:53) (Host_Nick) This is a condition of over-irritation of the sensory nervous system. treating the nerves takes time and patience. Avoid any foods which may irritate the digestive system (hot, alcohol, even coffee) and also food combinations which will acidify the blood.
(08:22:09) (Analaya) "I Am" to quit smoking, today my last day and I have been testy this evening
(08:22:26) (Host_Nick) That's cool, glad you are quitting :o)
(08:22:42) (Host_Nick) Your lungs will bless you :o)
(08:23:05) (Analaya) Thanks
(08:23:46) (Anonymous) and thanks from me too
(08:24:02) (Host_Nick) After you quit smoking you will notice that your blood color changes to a bright scarlet red. This is easily oxygenated blood, designed to bring the energy of air, oxygen and its "prana" to every one of your cells. :o)
(08:24:08) (friend_to_mankind) You can do all things through Christ who strengthens you
(08:24:29) (Analaya) It is wierd how my lower self works with smoking
(08:24:42) (Analaya) Yes Friend, Thanks
(08:24:57) (Analaya) I need support
(08:25:25) (Host_Nick) Avoid any nervous system irritants, this includes my beloved coffee for example. :o(ººººººººººººº
(08:26:06) (Host_Nick) Green tea gives you a much more stable frame of mind. Ño=
(08:26:23) (Analaya) okay
(08:26:38) (Analaya) I have heard lobila helps
(08:26:53) (Analaya) does the same things in the brain that smoking does
(08:27:39) (Host_Nick) Oops, that is :o) if you can find organic green tea with jasmine, you will find great mental energy as well as good anticarcinogens and a tooth decay inhibitor as well as a nervous system balance.
(08:28:02) (Analaya) cool
(08:28:41) (Roz) and it tastes good
(08:29:17) (Host_Nick) It is the care for the blood-brain barrier, which determines our nervous condition.
(08:30:47) (Host_Nick) At its extreme, a nervous system burnout becomes what was known in Edgar Cayce's time as neurasthenia.
(08:31:26) (Host_Nick) Yes, we have her here. She is a neurasthenic. This is a condition here of the nerve force in the body, - of the whole system, that is, action on to the other organisms of the physical body and mental too, at times, especially do we have most of the action shown in its forces to the physical body, through the action on to the lung here; to the forces here through the pelvis, to the lower extremities, acting on to the locomotories of the system,
(08:32:54) (Host_Nick) This is from an Edgar Cayce reading: 17-1; notice that the entire functioning of the organs in the body is affected by this nervous disorder.
(08:33:48) (Host_Nick) to the lower extremities, acting on to the locomotories of the system, or forces which govern the lower extremities here from the pelvis, on the inside here, along to the lower limbs, and especially at the knees on the side here, along the line of the sciatic nerve, acting in conjunction with the sciatic nerves from the appendages thereof, here at the joints.
(08:34:31) (Roz) Nick would you discuss the autonomic nervous system which controls meditation
(08:34:46) (Host_Nick) Notice how the 'locomotories" are so affected as is the breathing by this nervous condition.(08:36:02) (Host_Nick) I would love to Roz, but it would take volumes of an encyclopedia. Yet this reading clearly shows that they do indeed affect each other, that is, it is a two way building relationship :o)
(08:36:15) (patricia) Nick, what did Cayce recommend for this condition?
(08:37:05) (Host_Nick) The action on the forces here, through the lung, is through the respiratory system, or more to the lymphatic circulation, with its nerve appendages to it here, in the action of the air into the lung, which forces out, or the action of the same force on to the action of the heart, or through the blood force, where the blood is cleansed or purified by the air in the lungs. Therefore, we have some of the cells in the lower part of the lung,
(08:38:11) (Host_Nick) It appears here that a nervous condition will show up sooner as a respiratory illness than elsewhere in the body.
(08:38:49) (Host_Nick) Therefore, we have some of the cells in the lower part of the lung, closed, from the action of the force of the nerves proper in the system, wherein the force of action in itself is Neurasthenic - in the acting force in itself or from the mental action between the nerve and self proper, or to the branches of those effected by the Neurasthenia, to the action of the sympathetic nerve system and the cerebrospinal.
(08:38:52) (Atom) what was meant by,... some of the cells in the lower part of the lung,
(08:39:22) (Atom) cells of what?
(08:39:43) (Host_Nick) An incipient lung condition is developing because of the failure of the nervous system in this case.
(08:39:59) (Atom) ok ty Nick
(08:40:11) (Host_Nick) A tubercular condition, perhaps? a sclerosis of the lung tissue.
(08:40:16) (Q) what does self proper mean.. ?
(08:40:40) (Host_Nick) The individual's intent
(08:41:55) (Host_Nick) There are other conditions arising at times in the system from the condition of the whole body, as we have through the capillary circulation at times, throwing out discharges from these in abrasions on the skin from the exterior, but these all come from the troubles we have in the system through the nerve force.
(08:42:28) (Host_Nick) This is 17-1, from 20th February of 1911.
(08:43:11) (Host_Nick) That is the condition between the physical body and its appendages on the system, with the circulation and nerve tissue here, and muscles, or to the mental body with its brain and appendages, and nerve force through the system. The action then in these forces the neurasthenic condition - a condition existing either by physical means, brought to action on the body through the nerve action on the physical system
(08:44:30) (Host_Nick) This entire readings, although from one of Edgar Cayce's first recorded ones; recites exactly what would happen to a nervous system which no longer has the protection of the blood-brain barrier.
(08:45:16) (Analaya) Blessing Be Upon Everone Here, As This Virtual Meeting Place Be Lifted Into The Heavens
(08:45:47) (friend_to_mankind) Amen
(08:45:53) (Host_Nick) Q: What conditions would you 'prescribe' to cure it?
(08:46:02) (Host_Nick) (A) Hot applications to the solar plexus nerve center at the ninth dorsal; electrical forces followed after all along the whole spine, and make an impression to the mind, through the mind in itself, or action of one mind on another, and it will quit it. One is action to the physical body, with application you see; throw off this coldness here to the feet.
(08:46:29) (Host_Nick) Note the ninth dorsal, the area where the adrenal glands are located.
(08:46:52) (Q) action of one mind on another?
(08:47:03) (Q) prayer maybe ?
(08:47:12) (ernie) talk to oneself
(08:47:28) (Q) affirmations then ernie?
(08:47:35) (ernie) to ones cells tell them to get better
(08:47:41) (ernie) ?
(08:47:44) (Host_Nick) Get away this soreness here, or burning at the stomach, or heartburn in the system. Eliminate that from the system through the physical means, the action of the electrical forces, that is static, on to the body here along the spine and the whole body to its finger tips, along the limbs, along the line of the sciatic nerve force, along the limbs, extremities where they come in contact with these nerve forces, rebuilding in the body, at the armpits where
(08:47:54) (ernie) i m just flapping i dont know
(08:48:49) (WalksInSpirit) Yes, Ernie. There's reccent studies by Russian DNA experts that say that our cells are like small computer chips, and can be re-programmed by us talking to them.
(08:48:54) (Host_Nick) This paragraph, seems to indicate a systematic program of massage, to ease the energy buildups, and also hints at something like acupuncture
(08:49:08) (ernie) ok
(08:49:39) (Q) static electricity.. the electrical forces , that is static?
(08:49:56) (Roz) or electrical stimulation
(08:50:17) (Bill) static drag your ft. across the floor
(08:50:18) (Host_Nick) Q: Is there any other treatment you would 'prescribe'?
(08:50:26) (Host_Nick) (A) When we eliminate these forces, we produce a condition in the system, or the body becomes stronger in itself. As we have in the system, a digestion here, but the new blood in the body is fairly good, except at times we have a state in the lung of the force producing this non-clarification of the bl
(08:50:35) (Q) Should have a Cayce dictionary on easily misunderstood meanings.. lol. it might help.
(08:51:02) (Host_Nick) except at times we have a state in the lung of the force producing this non-clarification of the blood, - forced back in the heart with particles here left in the cells, closed, and become then particles through the hepatic circulation; forced in there, producing a condition we have in the body
(08:51:35) (Host_Nick) These distribute in the forces in the body, producing abrasions of the skin, on the outside. Remove these forces from the physical and mental body, then we remove the forces from the body and produce then a clarified condition of the system, and the rest of the body will be in a better condition.
(08:52:10) (Host_Nick) Note carefully: the production of abrasions of the skin due to a condition of no nervous sensitivity.
(08:53:02) (Q) non-clarification of blood.. is that blood that is not oxygenated?
(08:53:13) (Host_Nick) That is: we need the sensitivity of our nerves in order to heal. This requires a diet a step above the hamburgers, french fries and milkshakes we have been conditioned to consume :o)
(08:54:16) (Host_Nick) 17-1 concludes with the question: Q: What condition is the mind in at present?
(08:55:00) (Host_Nick) (A) The mind is alright, if it will act. The condition of the mind is acted on by the mental force into the brain in itself, producing the condition we have now, of the neurasthenic, we have hundreds of them here. The action of the nerve force on the brain itself proper, and it thinks it is sicker than it is.
(08:56:07) (Olivia) truly that is why animals heal quickly
(08:56:44) (Host_Nick) This perhaps explains more the relationship between the intent and the mind as opposed to the idea that we are but slaves to our blood chemistry.
(08:57:13) (Host_Nick) This does not mean y'all can go out an consume Hostess Twinkies! :oO
(08:57:31) (Host_Nick) Nor eat sugars and meats at the same meal! :oOOOO
(08:57:59) (Cris) How about pumpkin Pie - that's a vegetable
(08:58:18) (Host_Nick) That is great stuff, Cris :o)
(08:58:57) (Roz) pumpkin is a fruit
(08:59:11) (Q) whats non-clarification of blood ?
(08:59:45) (Cris) You are probably right Roz
(08:59:57) (Bill) not eating enough cellery and lettuce Q
(09:00:06) (Host_Nick) It is the reduced interaction between the oil layer and the water layer of the blood emulsion, Qrious
(09:01:05) (Q) oil layer.. hmm.. is that the dross that Cayce mentions or is it just a normal stuff in blood emulsion?
(09:02:23) (Host_Nick) That is, a nervous condition requires a long term healing program because of the different chemical speeds of reaction between the water based chemistry of most cells, and the slow-reacting oil-based chemistry of the nervous system.
(09:03:45) (Q) oh.. so the chemistry in our nervous system iss always be delayed because of its chemical makeup?
(09:05:14) (Host_Nick) Yes, the transportation of nutrients and the removal of wastes from the nervous system is averaging 1,000 slower than the normal Krebs cycle ATP = ADP energy conversion by the rest of the cells in the body for example.
(09:05:14) (Host_Nick) Yes, the transportation of nutrients and the removal of wastes from the nervous system is averaging 1,000 slower than the normal Krebs cycle ATP = ADP energy conversion by the rest of the cells in the body for example.
(09:05:53) (Q) probably done so that you wouldn't go into shock with system overloads..
(09:06:01) (Host_Nick) ATP = adenosine tri-phosphate; ADP = adenosine di-phosphate
(09:07:01) (Host_Nick) That is the Krebs cycle of our cells makes energy by bfreaking up a phosphate molecule from ATP, making it into ADP, which has only two phopshates.
(09:08:00) (Host_Nick) Now, this reaction is almost instantaneous, its prceeds so fast that our cells have the "chemical bulldozers" ready to remove the wastes before the reaction even takes place.
(09:09:05) (Host_Nick) Our nervous system does not have this luxury, this is why the blood-brain barrier exists. To ensure that only those nutrients which are specific to the nervous system enter.
(09:09:49) (Q) so it acts like a filter.. then.
(09:10:05) (Roz) blood-brain barrier being what?
(09:10:25) (Host_Nick) Our slow nervous system, needs a lot of care and attention to be in the best of condition. Overwork among other things starts the wasting away of this delicately tuned system.
(09:11:35) (Q) and just how is this system effective if it is not used? How do we avoid overtaxing it?
(09:12:07) (Host_Nick) The blood-brain barrier is composed of the memeranes which enclose the brain and the spinal chord. The memebranes which enclose the nerves can also be said to belong to this. Tpogether they enclose the delicate fatty nerve cells from the turbulent speedy chemicals which make up our water based layers.
(09:12:58) (Host_Nick) OK, has nayone any questions?
(09:13:25) (Q) I thought the protective layers were called manges.. oh. well.
(09:13:37) (Raleigh) nervois ststem huh
(09:13:57) (Roz) is theis membrane the mylin
(09:14:21) (Raleigh) what is a calming agent for nervios system nick
(09:14:21) (Host_Nick) The meninges, yes, I think these apply to the brain membranes, yet there are others.
(09:14:56) (Q) I thought the mylin is what protects the brain spinal area..
(09:15:13) (Host_Nick) Quiet, almost condition of sensory deprivation, like meditation, even prayer
(09:15:25) (Cris) It's what is eroded away with MS
(09:15:31) (Host_Nick) The myelin forms a sheath around the nerves
(09:16:40) (Host_Nick) The meninges form membranes around the brain and the spianl chord, or they merge into the membranes which protect the spianl chord, to be technically correct.
(09:16:54) (Raleigh) yes dark room huh /
(09:16:57) (Roz) what causes the erosion
(09:17:32) (Olivia) virus
(09:17:40) (Host_Nick) bacteria
(09:17:58) (Host_Nick) a chemical toxin like Mercury
(09:18:09) (Olivia) how true
(09:18:18) (Q) cool.. thanks Nick... so.. this nervous system will always be slow and we should plan on a long term recovery from whatever then.?
(09:18:18) (Raleigh) ok
(09:19:15) (Roz) or weed killer?
(09:19:28) (Host_Nick) The easiest way is to alkalinize the blood system. This allows for more of the oils and fats to be disolved in the water based layer of the blood than in an acidic blood condition.
(09:19:30) (Cris) The myelin sheath can recover hence remission of symptoms with MS
(09:19:49) (Raleigh) we played with mercury as kids nick / and i a dead man walking then ? / :)
(09:19:58) (WalksInSpirit) Cool, Cris! I didn't know that.
(09:20:11) (Cris) It doesn't always recover with some people
(09:20:35) (Host_Nick) A weed killer could do it, Roz, just like a fungicide or something used to mistakenly kill ants, who are great cleansers of the environment.
(09:21:07) (Roz) did do it
(09:21:45) (Host_Nick) This is true, Cris, however, the initial cause of the MS has to be removed, and the root cause of the overloads in neurological disorders is very difficult to nail down.
(09:22:28) (Cris) The experts are still out on agreeing about that and other neuromuscular diseases
(09:22:49) (Host_Nick) It almost seems like we could use a chat on 'Care for your blood-brain barrier
(09:22:53) (Host_Nick) :o)
(09:23:03) (Raleigh) gee nick / poor julie downstairs here has ms very bad and she is 30 so pretty / i gave her the ec suggestions
(09:23:33) (Anne) could it be karma , in flect it, know how it feels
(09:23:57) (Raleigh) yes karma ec said / yet there
(09:24:03) (Raleigh) yes anne
(09:25:29) (Host_Nick) In nearly all neurological disorders, (notable exception autism) the condition is one of disorder and chaos. The Edgar Cayce readings recommended that a person remain in a state of almost sensory deprivation. No human contact almost, only someone, a nurse of the same sex, to feed and clothe.
(09:25:55) (Cris) Ken's MG symptoms are helped with a proper diet, lots of rest and a lack of stress - the stresscan be a major factor
(09:26:23) (Cris) Staying on his medication
(09:26:26) (Host_Nick) This is a state where the disordered nervous system is being allowed to 'order itself' by not taking part in anything which is emotionally stimulating.
(09:27:51) (Host_Nick) Stress, disorders the nervous system, it is part of the stimulation - sympathetic reaction to the world, which we are all programmed to follow.
(09:28:24) (Raleigh) yes but the drive is the opposite nick ///
(09:28:57) (Raleigh) any questuions nik
(09:29:07) (Raleigh) on this subject
(09:29:19) (Raleigh) i know this topic
(09:29:39) (Raleigh) personally
(09:29:59) (Roz) you have only periods of manic not depression?Ral
(09:30:10) (Raleigh) yes
(09:30:31) (Host_Nick) The sympathetic drives the stimulation, it is the slowdown - parasympathetic system which gets burnt out first. This is why the sensory deprivation conditions and the refraining from any emotional situations is what is indicated in nervous overloead conditions such as Post-Traumatic-Shock-Disorder.
(09:30:40) (Raleigh) its ok
(09:30:44) (Raleigh) im ok
(09:32:05) (Q) are these real.. these Post- Whathaveyous.. cause they didn't seem to exist a two decades ago.. know what I mean.?
(09:32:37) (Host_Nick) It is now Open Chat
(09:33:05) (virtual_girl) thank you Nick, always interesting ! :o)
(09:33:20) (patricia) yes thank you Nick
(09:33:36) (Nick) Not quite sure what you meant, Q
(09:33:41) (WalksInSpirit) Nick, great info as usual! Thanks!
(09:34:42) (Q) these symtomatic psychomatic definitions of cases of Post - truamatic - whatchmacallits.. dont you think it might perhaps be made up.
(09:34:59) (Olivia) no Q
(09:35:00) (Raleigh) no q
(09:35:13) (Nick) There is so much more work to do on the nervous system Walks, I do not even know where to start. To think that electrocshock therapy is still a prescribed method of treatment is 'shocking'? :o)
(09:35:27) (virtual_girl) Q why do you think its made up?
(09:35:32) (patricia) no, Q they have always existed but there was just not a name for them
(09:36:20) (Q) Cause these moms that claim to have a disorder as a condition to kill there children is still a mystery to me.
(09:36:29) (Nick) No, Q, the nervous system has its own fight-or-flee reaction and this can harm the nervous system like injecting a gallon of expresso into your bloodstream.
(09:36:32) (WalksInSpirit) For real, Nick! I didn't know they still do that!
(09:36:51) (Raleigh) yes w
(09:37:11) (Bill) i think phycitrists make up a lot of disorders
(09:37:16) (Raleigh) worse w
(09:37:18) (Q) the adrenal gland.. yes I am aware of that Nick..
(09:37:23) (One) Yes Bill
(09:37:36) (Nick) It takes long time for the nervous system to recover, its chemistry is much slower than the 'take two of these and call me in the morning' approach to day-to-day medicine.
(09:37:37) (Olivia) the woman had schizophrenia Q
(09:38:22) (Raleigh) 1/3 stay same / 1/3 get better / 1/3 get worse nick
(09:38:28) (virtual_girl) until one goes through a 'disorder' themselves, me thinks you are unaware
(09:38:55) (WalksInSpirit) I had Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder after I was in the tornado. And I can tell you firsthand, it is real.
(09:39:05) (Nick) Probably true, virtual_girl, no one has the time to examine themselves.
(09:39:08) (Raleigh) ill bet walks
(09:39:17) (Q) And I have told a psychiatrist I wasn't afraid of dying.. so he writes down I am suicidal.. I told him that was upsurd.. but I think.. that the majority rules what is in the right mind.. and what normalicy is..
(09:39:19) (Raleigh) r u ok now walks?
(09:39:19) (Raleigh) r u ok now walks?
(09:39:40) (Von) I think the punishment, should fit the crime !!
(09:39:43) (WalksInSpirit) Yep, I'm ok now Ral. :-)
(09:39:53) (Nick) Did you heal your psychiatrist, Q? :o)
(09:39:54) (Raleigh) good / me too
(09:40:07) (Raleigh) q /
(09:40:14) (virtual_girl) when you are in the throws of a disorder, you cannot examine yourself....! :o)
(09:40:19) (Q) can you imagine.. hey doc.. I have been reincarnated.. he writes.. delusions of granduer.. it is a simply process..
(09:40:31) (Bill) make up a fictious name and next wk. there'll be a pill for it
(09:40:34) (Raleigh) yes ok q
(09:40:39) (merri) lol you are so right Q!
(09:41:12) (Q) when in the throws of a disorder.. you shouldn't get labels.. either.
(09:43:03) (Q) No .. Nick.. I didn't heal my psychiatrist.. he already had a symptom ready for me.. lol.
(09:43:07) (Nick) This is where modern medicine comes up short, the emphasis on a quick-fix fails to recognize that some illnesses will take time to heal. And most of these time-consuming ilnesses originate in an oils-fats disorder, which usuallyshows up in the nervous system.
(09:43:29) (virtual_girl) umm, approx. how long does it take for the system to heal?
(09:44:19) (Nick) Oh! a nervous psychological error! let us examine this case...:o)
(09:44:38) (virtual_girl) take yer time doc... LoL
(09:45:26) (Nick) Truely this arises from excessive consumption of Hostess Twinkies and Reese's Cups
(09:45:53) (Anne) to much sugar
(09:46:18) (Olivia) and soda Nick
(09:46:40) (Nick) And salt, and pepper, and white, and ............. would you believe it? MSG!
