Post by WalksInSpirit on Sept 13, 2005 22:07:07 GMT -5
Health Chat: 09-13-05
"Digestive Disorders"
(08:19:01) (Host-Nick) OK, we will start on tonight's topic, digestive problems. *reaches for Milk of Magnesia* :o)
(08:19:22) (Raleigh) lol nick
(08:20:17) (Host-Nick) The speed of movment through the digestive system of our food should be about 24 hours.
(08:20:22) (LoveInfinity) LOL, put down the pickle eggs Nick, lol
(08:20:53) (vjh) Edgar Cayce said never eat a pickle.
(08:21:11) (Host-Nick) In modern eating the one major problem from eating bleached lifeless foods is constipation.
(08:21:36) (Raleigh) you are right vj / no pickles / :)
(08:22:37) (Host-Nick) Constipation produces autointoxification, which means acidity.
(08:23:16) (Host-Nick) All foods have a maximum time they can reside in the digestive system before they start to ferment and produce, toxins and acidic compounds.
(08:23:38) (LoveInfinity) ferment thats a scary word, lol
(08:24:20) (Host-Nick) It is true, one can get gas even without eating carbonated drinks.
(08:26:21) (Host-Nick) Some problems originating from fermentation of foods in a too slowly moving digestive syste, include: headaches, brain fog, depression, obesity, diverticulosis PMS, bad breath, indigestion, gas, bloating, arthritis, body odor and more advanced conditions deriving from excess acidity in the body.
(08:27:36) (Raleigh) ec said the rail splitter must eat hearty like nick
(08:27:55) (Raleigh) still refrain form meats red nick?
(08:27:58) (Host-Nick) One book here states that modern food is mostly C.r.a.p. Coffee, Refined sugars and starches, Alcohol and Processed foods. These will all onstipate you until you reach for the Ex-lax. :oP
(08:28:15) (Raleigh) funny
(08:28:57) (Raleigh) still no red meat / or you said no meat period / even if 1 is active nick / ?
(08:29:07) (Host-Nick) I personaly think that it is wise to refrain from red meats since they start puterfying so quickly. When you get a steak from half way across the continent, it would be grey if not for red dye #2.
(08:30:42) (Host-Nick) The transition to vegetarianism is difficult, since the body relies on meat for a number of nutrients. However, once a toxic condition developes, one should refrain from meats when possible, because of the tremendous effort to neutralized the acid posions generated by its consumption.
(08:31:34) (Host-Nick) Other causes of constipation, Lack of Exercise. OK how many of you are couch potatos? :o)
(08:31:54) (merri) lol...I wish!
(08:32:11) (Raleigh) streaching i found helps to say move me nick /
(08:32:13) (Raleigh) :)
(08:32:15) (ron) slightly
(08:33:03) (socalvon) Ral..is that streaking, or stretching?
(08:33:25) (Raleigh) stretching / i spell very well all / im just hooked on phonics / :)
(08:33:36) (Host-Nick) Travelling can constipation since one is eating food cooked and washed in diferent water and at different times.
(08:33:46) (Raleigh) i read minds too soc / :)
(08:34:07) (Host-Nick) And, one vital thing overlooked: lack of time set aside to eliminate!
(08:34:10) (socalvon) gotcha Ral
(08:34:30) (Host-Nick) I am serious here, how many of us bolt out the door without eliminating?
(08:34:50) (good_harbor) did u think hypnosis might be a solution to regulrity?
(08:34:52) (Raleigh) lol / both soc / ec said stretch with as little clothing as possible
(08:34:53) (ron) sometime not reaching the car
(08:34:54) (Raleigh) :)
(08:35:11) (socalvon) not me...and am a couch potato!!
(08:35:20) (Host-Nick) *I can here my meditation guides, "go and relieve yourself!* :o)
(08:35:40) (Raleigh) i have had this issue bad nick / lack of water the dr tells me
(08:36:22) (Host-Nick) Usually, constipation is from acidity and lack of fiber in the food one ingests. There are more advanced conditions which might respond.
(08:36:26) (good_harbor) Nick nick?
(08:36:52) (socalvon) drink approx 1 1/2 gal of water a day..no elimation prop's
(08:36:58) (Host-Nick) Perhaps lack of good quality water, Raleigh. Water from a granite spring, without a lot of dissolved minerals in it is best.
(08:36:59) (socalvon) probs
(08:37:05) (Raleigh) yes i know /
(08:37:07) (ron) in little glasses i supose
(08:37:08) (Roz) alkalinity helps?
(08:37:10) (Raleigh) i just dont
(08:37:21) (Raleigh) i will try to soc / ty
(08:37:50) (Raleigh) k / ty nick
(08:37:59) (ron) i'd float into the bathroom
(08:38:05) (Host-Nick) The Cayce readings said 6-8 glasses per day
(08:38:12) (Raleigh) yes
(08:38:27) (socalvon) my catheter runnith over
(08:39:26) (LoveInfinity) apple juice will clear ya out, or some prune
(08:39:53) (Host-Nick) To achieve good regularity, hydration, 6-8 glasses of water, fibre, both fruit and vegetable, though not at the same meal; and eating quality oils with one's vegetables and proteins.
(08:40:28) (Raleigh) really i have found my yoga style helps nick / see ec suggestion for morning excercize / its very good i feel
(08:40:34) (Host-Nick) Improper digestion as well as constipation can be helped by placing castor oil packs over the abdomen, where the intestines are.
(08:41:21) (tlv-da-tsi) do they still make thos packs?
(08:41:39) (Raleigh) proper elimination is very important i know nick
(08:41:57) (socalvon) castor and codliver oik...yuck
(08:41:59) (Raleigh) easy to make them t
(08:42:22) (tlv-da-tsi) ok
(08:42:39) (Host-Nick) Now one thing to consider is avoiding the use of commerial laxatives, they are full of aluminum. Best is milk of magnesia Mg(OH)2
(08:42:43) (socalvon) detest the smell
(08:42:52) (Raleigh) all it is is a castor soaked cloth t
(08:43:07) (Host-Nick) Olive oil is excellent for promoting peristaltic movements.
(08:43:15) (Host-Nick) Internally that is.
(08:43:44) (socalvon) will flush you like a goose
(08:43:51) (Host-Nick) The other remedy, is one indicated in many Cayce readings, and that is colonic cleansing.
(08:44:47) (tlv-da-tsi) should olive oil be taken on an empty stomach?
(08:45:03) (ron) a teasthingy?
(08:45:13) (Host-Nick) Not necesarily, tlv-da-tsi
(08:46:32) (Host-Nick) Are there any health questions?
(08:47:06) (tlv-da-tsi) yes,will the olive oil work right away?
(08:47:25) (Raleigh) do the 3 day apple diet t
(08:47:35) (tlv-da-tsi) iwouldnt want to be out somewhere and,oops
(08:47:38) (Raleigh) or grapes or oranges 4 days
(08:47:47) (Raleigh) see the readings for this
(08:47:57) (Host-Nick) If taken with a salad as a dressing, along with mustard and a queeze of lemon uice, this would help.
(08:48:20) (socalvon) tdt could happen..be prepared
(08:48:44) (tlv-da-tsi) thanks
(08:48:50) (Host-Nick) Another cause of constipation and the accompanying acidity is parasitical invasion.
(08:49:02) (Raleigh) eeeeww
(08:49:07) (tlv-da-tsi) yukk
(08:50:03) (Host-Nick) Studies have found that even in "modern, industrialized, of first world" countries 85% of people have a parasitical invasion in their digestive systems.
(08:50:17) (socalvon) when it makes its move, be close to a receptacle.tvt
(08:50:22) (Raleigh) what
(08:50:30) (Raleigh) really nick /
(08:51:07) (Host-Nick) This parasites, like flukes for example can occur on one's drinking water, on one's fresh vegetables and the descriptions of them keep a host of scientists occupied.
(08:51:23) (Raleigh) geee
(08:51:30) (Raleigh) i heard 1
(08:51:38) (Raleigh) std figures
(08:51:46) (Raleigh) i been lucky
(08:52:07) (Raleigh) a quarter have somethin
(08:52:09) (Raleigh) wow
(08:52:38) (Host-Nick) Parasites can be the underlying cause of: constipation, digeetive complaints, bloating, irritable bowel syndrome and conditions arising from acidity in the blood.
(08:53:03) (merlin) what about lots of flatulence
(08:53:11) (Raleigh) what is suggested to p
(08:53:20) (Raleigh) kill thiem nick
(08:53:30) (Host-Nick) It is not certain how, but it seems that parasites need to slow down the movement of food to draw their nutrients, unlike the friendly, acidophilus, bifidus, and miso type bacteria.
(08:53:52) (Raleigh) how are they eliminated nick
(08:54:05) (Raleigh) ok
(08:54:17) (Host-Nick) That is, these parasites do not belong there and the are crowding out the beneficial bacteria which are.
(08:55:31) (Host-Nick) Colonic cleansings to remove those residing in the colon, as well as speeding up the movement of food through the digestive system and doing whatever one can to alkalinize the bloodstream and the body as a whole.
(08:56:21) (Host-Nick) It is suggested that one eleminate starches for one to three months depending on the severity.
(08:57:14) (Host-Nick) This is because the gluten present in grains forms a sticky, gooey gumm, which clogs the intestinal walls and also closes the diameter of the passage throught the digestive system.
(08:58:02) (merri) does that include potatoes, Nick?
(08:59:04) (Host-Nick) Actually, no, merri, and this may be the reason why potatos can be eaten with proteins, since they do not retard the movement of food through the digestive system like grains would.
(08:59:38) (merri) phewww!
(08:59:43) (Raleigh) :)
(09:00:10) (Raleigh) french fries dont count merri / :)
(09:00:22) (merri) lol that's ok!
(09:00:29) (Host-Nick) Potatos are classified as vegetables as are all root starches because of this, as well as having starches so complex that they take roughly the same amount of time to digest as vegetables.
(09:00:31) (merri) don't eat fries
(09:00:42) (socalvon) love dem spuds!!
(09:00:59) (Host-Nick) Spuds sauteed in olive oil :oD
(09:01:13) (Raleigh) stuffed
(09:01:23) (Host-Nick) OK, has anyone any health questions?
(09:01:25) (socalvon) baked
(09:02:13) (merlin) nick, what if one has a predisposition towards flatulence ...what can be done?
(09:03:03) (Host-Nick) Drink more water so as to generate more hydrochloric acid in the stomach. Also try digestive enzymes
(09:03:42) (merlin) ty nick
(09:04:13) (Host-Nick) OK, I think I am typed out. If no one as any health questions...............
(09:04:24) (socalvon) live alone merlin..no problem!!
(09:04:34) (Host-Nick) lol
(09:04:45) (Raleigh) ty for the suggestions on smoke
(09:09:51) (Host-Nick) As a side note, Dr Norman Walker, who became the leading proponent of colonic cleansing in London, about the turn of the 20th century, lived until he was 107 and was active, travelled giving lectures and worked a full day until his last year.
(09:10:16) (merri) WoW
(09:10:31) (Angel_eyes) wow is right
(09:10:38) (Host-Nick) You see, living to 120 does not have to be in a wheelchair.
(09:10:49) (Raleigh) ec said with proper gold and silver a body could double a lifetime and endurance as well
(09:11:05) (Angel_eyes) i wonder how many here have had a colonic? ; o)
(09:11:48) (Host-Nick) And it is unlikely that Dr Walker had heard of the Cayce readings which were indicating the colonic cleansing at about the same time, even though they were across the Atlantic ocean.
(09:19:31) (Host-Nick) Have you any health questions, Angel_eyes?
(09:19:44) (Angel_eyes) yes i have
(09:20:10) (Host-Nick) The topic usually starts about 9:15 and continues fo about an hour.
(09:20:24) (Host-Nick) Ask away, though. :o)
(09:20:40) (Angel_eyes) ok
(09:21:01) (Angel_eyes) if the adrenals weren't working properly, how would one know and how would one fix it?
(09:22:10) (Host-Nick) The adrenals reflect in the condition of the kidneys and in turn reflect the condition of the endocrine system.
(09:23:30) (Host-Nick) If a person has been under a lot of stress the adrenals can get burnt out.
(09:23:49) (Angel_eyes) how do you know if they're burnt out?
(09:24:11) (Host-Nick) Stress, arising from life situations, or excess caffeien and alcohol consumption.
(09:25:07) (Host-Nick) A doctor or licensed medical practitioner would be able to tell you. A careful analysis of the symptoms is necesary. Lack of energy can come from many sources.
(09:25:42) (Angel_eyes) do you know of a test that you can buy yourself to test adrenals?
(09:26:56) (Host-Nick) No, Angel_eyes nor would I recommend one if I did. The endocrine system is a delicately balanced chemical, electrical and neurological system. A licensed health practitioner should be consulted.
(09:27:41) (BillC) Hello. Does anyone here know anything about something about "glyconutrition"?
(09:27:50) (Angel_eyes) i c thank you... so this is something that you have to ask for in the dr. office, suggest it , like it might be a problem?
(09:28:18) (BillC) Supposedly, it refers to some unknown sugars that are essential to the immune system.
(09:28:45) (Host-Nick) Yes, Angel_eyes, this is too complex a problem to try on one's own. Foloow the basic guidance for alkalinizing the bloodstream as much as possible, but a health parctitioner should be sought.
(09:28:49) (BillC) Sorry to intrude.
(09:28:56) (Bill) probably just means eat your vegatables BillC
(09:29:08) (Angel_eyes) ok thank you very much for your help
(09:29:11) (BillC) There is a company that claims to have patents.
(09:29:30) (Host-Nick) There is a glycothymoline, antiseptic, mouthwash and alkalinizer which the Cayce readings ave the formula for BillC.
(09:29:40) (BillC) They make fantastic claims without making any claims at all, if you know what I mean.
(09:30:17) (Bill) BillC i think they may be after individuals pocket books
(09:30:22) (Host-Nick) Lots of fads, out there BillC, like the Atkins diet, I think
(09:31:02) (Bill) unless a person is ill they need no more than a balanced diet
(09:31:41) (Bill) got a bee stig today i quess my authritis is cured :o)
(09:32:06) (BillC) I don't know. It seems to make some sense. They say that the human immune system is capable of defeating most maladies IF it is properly nourished.
(09:32:06) (merri) lol, that would be nice!
(09:32:15) (Host-Nick) Did you raid its hive for some honey?
(09:32:18) (BillC) They claim to provide that nourishment.
(09:33:06) (Host-Nick) It is worth a look at BillC, although most claims tend to promise wonderful results, and end up working on a small section of people.
(09:33:41) (BillC) Host-Nick, that is the odd thing here. They promise nothing.
(09:34:02) (BillC) That makes me VERY suspicious
(09:34:26) (Host-Nick) The human body as all living being are in constant warfare with parasites and predators. The immune system keeps the energy expended in the combat to a minimum, by design.
(09:34:33) (Bill) the human immune system does ward off everything that comes along provided you have a healthy diet and attitude and live your ideal
(09:34:41) (socalvon) that should tell you something. BillC
(09:35:02) (Host-Nick) Have you a website or a book title, BillC?
(09:35:03) (merri) what are they selling BillC?
(09:36:40) (BillC) They are selling a dietary supplement that they claim to have invented.
(09:38:34) (Host-Nick) What does it have in it, BillC? any ingredients? like eye of toad and head of newt :o)
(09:40:51) (merri) BillC there have been so many supplements advertised as "what you need" the only one who benefits is the advertiser!
(09:40:56) (BillC) the web site is www.mannatech.com
(09:41:19) (BillC) I guess it doesn't matter, since my inclination is to ignore them
(09:41:46) (merri) my feelings exactly
(09:42:10) (merri) since every month there is another one on the market
(09:42:37) (Bill) Only MPS-GOLD™ 100 as a loose powder Aloe Vera extract contains the full range of molecular weights of the primary immune system carbohydrates Manose and Galactose.
(09:42:48) (Bill) this is one of their claims Nick
(09:43:47) (Bill) The information that follows will present some basic information about the product Ambrotose® that is manufactured by Mannatech, Inc. Ambrotose® and MPS-GOLD™ 100 will be compared in terms of several issues, such as: which active ingredients are truly relevant in terms of cell to cell communication and immune system modulation
(09:44:29) (Host-Nick) As a chemist I would say, so what, since I doubt that manose and galactose have so many different molecular weights that finding them in food is that difficult.
(09:45:42) (socalvon) tell it..Nick
(09:46:39) (BillC) So, what are we who are not educated in biochemistry to do?
(09:46:46) (Host-Nick) If the body cannot make these chemicals, since they are only carbohydrates, it means that the person would have a severe liver condition which would need to be treated, first. Just my opinion, they might have something which if tests prove works then one has to consider it.
(09:47:12) (Bill) literature, is based on the science of glycobiology that involves glyconutrients – glycol means sweet, and therefore a sweet nutrient that is composed of sugar molecules and is necessary for the biology of the human organism. Sugar and carbohydrate are the same, but sugar often means small molecule –
(09:48:00) (merri) Consumer Report did a test on over 100 supplements and found 99% did not contain the amounts on the label
(09:48:00) (Bill) and is necessary for the biology of the human organism.
(09:48:32) (Bill) Merri not that it would make a heck of a lot of difference anyway :o)
(09:49:21) (socalvon) if my Dr says do it, I do
(09:50:03) (BillC) OK
(09:50:31) (merri) supplements are not regulated and they can put whatever they want on the labels
(09:51:14) (Bill) not that they abide by the laws though :o)
(09:51:31) (merri) they are trying to change it here but hasn't happened yet
(09:51:57) (Host-Nick) Yeah, Bill, we know what herbal supplements you Canadians send across the border. :o)
(10:04:15) (Host-Nick) Well, thanks for being here everyone, blessings and peace to all.
(10:04:22) (Bill) L&L Nick
(10:04:28) (WalksInSpirit) Thanks for chat, Nick! Night Blessings!
(10:04:31) (socalvon) be well Nick
(10:04:35) (toitle) gnite Nick
