Post by WalksInSpirit on Aug 30, 2005 22:04:37 GMT -5
Health Chat: 08-30-05
"The Intestines"
(09:03:46) (Host-Nick) OK, let's start on the topic: The Intestines. Let the greeter do the greeting, and there will be pauses for questions.
(09:04:24) (Host-Nick) The intestines are where the absorption of our nutirnets happens.
(09:06:01) (Host-Nick) When animal bodies first evolved the intestine was one unit. This continued through the evolution of fish. After the developement of amphibians and reptiles the large intestine developed as a separate organ.
(09:06:59) (Host-Nick) The large intestine has the duty to reabsorb as much water and as many minerals from the food as can safely be returned to the blood.
(09:09:00) (Host-Nick) The samll intestine has also become differentiated into three different zones. the duodenum, which comes just after the stomach; the jejenum which comes just after the pancreas and liver add their secretions and the ileum which is where most of the digestion takes place.
(09:10:10) (Roz) where does the bile enter the system?
(09:10:32) (Moira) the gallbladder produces the bile doesnt it?
(09:10:38) (Host-Nick) On the walls of the intestines are coloies of bacteria which very kindly digest our food and produce valuable nutrients for our bodies.
(09:11:27) (Host-Nick) The bile, produced by the liver and stored by the gall bladder, enters the system between the duodenum and the jejenum.
(09:11:30) (merri) is this the bacteria one gets from eating yogurt?
(09:12:02) (Host-Nick) Yes friendly colonies of bacteria can be found in yoghurt, also in miso soup and in some kinds of cheeses.
(09:12:22) (Roz) turns eveything green?
(09:12:33) (merlin) how about kefir?
(09:12:56) (Host-Nick) Also, honey, some fermentations whih are consumed for their high quality vitamin B-12 :o) and mushrroms.
(09:13:17) (Roz) butter milk?
(09:13:33) (Host-Nick) Kefir also, has friendly bacteria, buttermilk I am not certain of.
(09:13:35) (merri) aaaahhh those mushrooms!!
(09:13:36) (Bill) when purchaseing yogurt Merri for any benifit it is important to check the list for live culture and make sure its fresh
(09:14:09) (Host-Nick) Bill is absolutely right.
(09:14:15) (merri) yes there was talk about that very thing on the news the other night
(09:15:05) (Host-Nick) There are capsules containing acidophilus bacteria which are unlikely to be of any use unless they have been refrigerated being sold in pharmacies and in natural health food stores.
(09:16:13) (Host-Nick) That is these acidophilus or bidophilus supplements need to have been frozen from the moment they were encapsulated to the moment you buy them.
(09:16:48) (Moira) it is also found in cottage cheese
(09:17:35) (Qrious) what of the 3 special sections Nick.
(09:18:02) (Host-Nick) The food in the duodenum receives the bile from the bile duct, and the pancreatic enzymes and juices from the pancreas and the food goes to the jejenum.
(09:19:03) (Qrious) is the duodenum on the bottom of the stomach?
(09:20:01) (Host-Nick) The duodenum does from the valve at the bottom of the stomach, across the upper abdomento just below the liver and the gall bladder.
(09:21:02) (Qrious) and the jejenum is near or where on the intestines?
(09:21:58) (Host-Nick) Now, the food once neutralized by the bile from the gall bladder, and the pancreatic juices goes into the ileum where most of the absorption of food takes place.
(09:23:39) (Host-Nick) The jejenum is the part which goes from the bottom of the liver/gall bladder area back across the upper abdomen to the left side of the abdomen.
(09:23:43) (Roz) how does th e bile neutralize the food?
(09:26:36) (Host-Nick) Illnesses which can develop in the upper part of the intestines include: peptic ulcers, the weakening of the valve between the stomach and the duodenum, ulers from too acidic food eaten in times of stress, fistulas, diverticulae and tumors.
(09:27:42) (Host-Nick) The bile, being alkaline,at a pH of hopefully about 8.4 in a person with healthy alkaline blood, neutralizes the hydrochloric acid-digested food coming from the stomach.
(09:28:29) (Host-Nick) In this neutralization it is assisted by the pancreatic juices, which are a bicarbonate solution, provided the body is not dehydrated.
(09:28:30) (Roz) thanks
(09:30:01) (Host-Nick) Most of the digestion and neutralization of the food occurs on the duodenumand the jejenum. The absorption occurs in the ileum, the longest part of the small intestine.
(09:33:35) (Host-Nick) By means of the hydrochloric acid and enzymes from the stomach; the pancreatic enzymes and juices from the pancreas and the bile from the gall bladder separated the foods chemically so that they can be absorbed by their specific absorption sites in the intestinal walls.
(09:33:58) (Host-Nick) OK, has anyone any questions?
(09:34:16) (patricia) Sheesh Nick, this sounds like a very complicated process
(09:34:31) (Host-Nick) It is, this is just an overview. :o)
(09:34:39) (virtual_girl) what happens when you don't have a gall bladder?
(09:34:50) (Bill) so they break the foods down in this process for absorbtion?
(09:35:10) (Host-Nick) Your liver will secrete directly into the digestive system. Not sure what happens to your gal blader meridian though.
(09:35:23) (Roz) all accomplished by the autonomic nervous system
(09:36:45) (Host-Nick) Yes, Bill. the sugars absorb easily, the proteins are "salted" for easy absorption and the oils and fats, saponified (converted into soaps) for absorption by the Peyer's Patches among other oily adducts in the intestinal walls.
(09:37:05) (Bill) ty Nick
(09:37:54) (Host-Nick) So true, Roz, the intestinal area is the area with the second largest concentration of neurons after the brain.
(09:38:39) (Host-Nick) OK, that is enough for tonight, has anyone any questions?
(09:38:52) (merri) and it all works even tho we tend to abuse it!
(09:39:36) (Roz) most enlightening Nick
(09:39:44) (Bill) well merri it only puits in so much over time then it rebels :o)
(09:39:57) (Host-Nick) Given time the body can adjust to certain transgression like ice-cream and fermented B-12 drinks, but extensive naughtiness brings breakdowns.
(09:40:02) (merri) lol....very true Bill
(09:40:13) (Qrious) how does the cilia separate the nuetrient from the junk.
(09:40:32) (Bill) compadability?
(09:41:04) (merri) ice-cream is a transgression, Nick?
(09:41:06) (Host-Nick) It is not the cilia which do that, Qrious. The separation is done by which chemicals and foods are allowed to cross the boundaries of which cell walls.
(09:41:42) (Bill) extreme starchs and junk foods tax your liver
(09:42:00) (Qrious) so that is why there is different sections of the intestines.. for differing foods?
(09:42:13) (Host-Nick) Ice ream has lots of dairy fats, lifeless sugar, colored dyes and is frozen, someting not god for the body.
(09:42:34) (Bill) don't tell me that Nick
(09:42:45) (merri) lol
(09:42:57) (virtual_girl) ouch ! LoL
(09:43:03) (Host-Nick) Yes, Qrious, snce some foods will be more stable timewise than others
(09:44:06) (Qrious) say Nick.. why is it that calcium is so hard to digest in the bile.. and most of it gets eliminated?
(09:44:28) (Host-Nick) The topic is pretty much finished unless there are questions.
(09:44:40) (Qrious) should we take potasuim and magnesium?
(09:45:17) (Bill) in your vegetables Q
(09:45:57) (Host-Nick) Usually becuase people are too acidic to produce an alkaline bile. Oils and fats dissolve in an alkaline media so that the bile needs to be alkaline. When the blood is too acidic the bile is not alkaline enough to dissolve the fats and incomplete oils and fats absorption occurs.
(09:46:38) (Qrious) I mean to help with the breakdown of calcium and compliment the nuetrients for absorbtion.
(09:47:01) (Host-Nick) This can be a cause of a number of neurological ailments, since the nervous system tissues are made up of fats. Calcium is a metal which is absorbed in the oil based chemistry in the body.
(09:47:49) (Host-Nick) To be absorbed into the body calcium needs to be complexed, chelated, surrounded by an oil molecule so that the intestinal cells can recognize it for what it is. Otherwise it just gets excreted.
(09:48:02) (Bill) all greens are high in calcium
(09:48:16) (Host-Nick) Or worse it just goes to form gall stones and kidney stones.
(09:49:48) (anne) i use to suffer from cold sores, was told to take zink, now take, cal mag zink in one pill
(09:50:01) (Host-Nick) There is often confusion that the metal calcium behaves differently to the other metals. Other metals being potassium, sodium magnesium. Calcium like iron needs a specific procedure to be absorbed into the body to be useful.
(09:50:13) (anne) no more cold sores
(09:50:41) (Host-Nick) Nice, anne, zinc helps with rebuilding cells.
(09:51:24) (anne) if you suffer from cold sores take it
(09:51:35) (Host-Nick) If there are no other questions........
(09:51:39) (virtual_girl) is calcium better absorbed at night?
(09:52:42) (tlr-da-tsi) got anything for eczema?
(09:52:54) (Host-Nick) I have heard that, virtual girl. Someone said that taking calcium at night actually helped them sleep better. Not Calcios from the Cayce readings though! it has iodine and will keep you up all night.
(09:52:55) (anne) also notice after you have a up set stomach, a blishter appears
(09:52:56) (Bill) all the body requires of any of these is trace elements not truck loads
(09:53:17) (Blu) Apple fast tlr-da-tsi
(09:53:42) (Host-Nick) Drink 6 - 8 glasses of good quality mineral water every day tlr-da-tsi, above and beyond all teas, soups and concotions.
(09:53:47) (virtual_girl) ok
(09:53:56) (Roz) need to take calcium an d magnesiusm on an empty stomach
(09:54:09) (anne) agree with the calcium, helps with well being
(09:54:17) (Roz) make ya sleep better
(09:54:44) (virtual_girl) omega 3 oils are good for eczema so I've read
(09:55:03) (anne) not to mention good thoughts
(09:55:18) (Bill) in order to get benifits from calcium as far as bone building goes its my opinion that exersise is very important
(09:55:35) (anne) agree
(09:56:07) (virtual_girl) love be in our hearts, love is all we need,,peace
(09:56:43) (anne) a beatle fan
(09:57:19) (anne) nice
(09:57:58) (Qrious) thanx for the class Nick.
(09:58:12) (tlr-da-tsi) thank you nick
(09:58:13) (patricia) Thank you Nick
(09:58:16) (Bill) ty for your time Nick
(09:58:40) (merri) great info Nick, thankyou
(09:58:45) (Host-Nick) Next week we look at oils absorption, this should be interesting :o)
(09:59:17) (WalksInSpirit) Thank you, Nick! Great chat & great info!
(10:00:05) (Casper) I thank you also Nick
(10:05:46) (Moira) ty Nick