Post by WalksInSpirit on Nov 17, 2006 16:02:43 GMT -5
Jesus And Cayce: 11-17-06
(02:24:28) (ron) Several individuals, as we have noted before, were indicated to have had blood relationships with the Master in times past. The following are some of the more pertinent excerpts:
(02:25:11) (true_eagle) im gona love this !
(02:25:16) (ron) Named Uhjltd, she was the daughter of Uhjltd when the nomads made raids into the north country. She lost in soul development in the first portion of that experience, but gained from the trials of him who first taught her to pray.
(02:25:27) (Blu) me too Mikey!!! (((Mike)))
(02:25:33) (true_eagle) ty try
(02:26:11) (ron) UhjItd taught her to pray, and she later became an aide to him in separating various groups for individual healing, and became a leader herself.
(02:26:35) (ron) She was associated with Jesus Christ in his incarnation at that time as her brother, Zend, which was a previous incarnation to that as the Master; for he became the leader in that land, and much is still gained in thought from the Persian philosophy.
(02:27:07) (ron) Q. Might I receive at this time a message from the Master?
(02:27:22) (Blu) *tears*
(02:27:42) (ron) A. COME, MINE DAUGHTER, MINE SISTER. IN CHOOSING ME, AS I HAVE CHOSEN YOU, THERE COMES THAT BEAUTY OF ONENESS IN KNOWING THE WAY THAT BRINGS TO OTHERS PEACE, JOY, HAPPINESS, IN DOING HIS WILL;
(02:28:14) (ron) FOR HE THAT SEEKS TO DO HIS WILL MAY IN ME HAVE THAT PEACE, THAT JOY, THAT UNDERSTANDING, THAT GIVES TO EACH IN THEIR RESPECTIVE SPHERES THEIR NEEDS, THEIR DESIRES, AS THEIR DESIRES ARE IN ME. BE FAITHFUL, EVEN AS THOU WERT FAITHFUL THEN. (993)
(02:28:48) (ron) Is this not a direct message from the Master, or how then shall we regard it? Or, consider the following given to the entity said to have been Jude.
(02:29:09) (ron) Q. (Jude). Is this my brother Jesus talking?
(02:29:25) (ron) A. He speaks with thee often in thy meditations and prayers.
(02:29:40) (ron) Q. Will I be able to see Jesus?
(02:29:53) (ron) A. You will.
(02:30:07) (ron) Q. In John, thou saidest, "after my death, the Comforter will come". Who is the Comforter today?
(02:30:26) (ron) A. The Comforter is the gift of the Holy Spirit, for it sheds abroad in dark places, and him that keepeth My council is brought to the full understanding, and is brought to remembrance of that walk with Him.
(02:31:03) (ron) Q. Which of the disciples was the one Jude loved the best?
(02:31:23) (ron) A. John. Upon this one Jude leaned in days when chains and bonds held thee. Freed with Him and then sent into the wilderness for thy tenderness. He (John) will aid you.
(02:31:52) (ron) Q. Is John now in the flesh ?
(02:32:09) (ron) A. John yet abides in me.
(02:32:26) (ron) Q. Will he again come into the flesh?
(02:32:40) (ron) A. That remains yet to be seen.
(02:32:54) (ron) Q. Is (5770) Judas Iscariot?
(02:33:06) (ron) A. Judas Iscariot, betrayer of me.
(02:33:24) (ron) Q. He is a fine man today.
(02:33:43) (ron) A. A fine man and leans upon thee. Many have been the trials of this soul in the destruction of many places and cities. Yet, though today with much of what the world calls material bounty, he leans upon thee - yet, this soul leans on thee.
(02:34:11) (ron) Q. Should he be introduced into the work at Virginia Beach?
(02:34:16) (true_eagle) forgiveness of judas !
(02:34:33) (ron) always mike
(02:34:46) (ron) A. Yes, the more that are gathered in His name, the greater is the strength thereof.
(02:34:54) (Blu) It was a painful fulfillment of prophesy Mike
(02:35:01) (ron) Q. Am I guided when and in my approach to others regarding this ?
(02:35:19) (ron) A. Thou art. In the hour that thou speakest I put it into thine heart what to say. For oft in prayer do I speak with thee.
(02:35:39) (ron) Q. Does this demonstrate what you mean when you say "I am with you"?
(02:35:55) (ron) A. I am and will be with you always, even unto the end.
(02:36:20) (ron) We are through for the present. (137-125)
(02:36:32) (true_eagle) yes ron .. wat jesus ... taught us
(02:55:54) (ron) Within the readings Cayce often quoted the Master - sometimes directly from Scripture, or slightly paraphrased, yet at other times attributing to Him statements that are not found in historical texts. Then, too, as in some of the previous Readings, it is difficult to comprehend that this is merely a flow from Cayce's unconscious mind alone - or someone else, helping with the information.
(02:56:56) (ron) Mrs. C: We, the group designated as the healing group, have gathered here to seek through these channels to know the way Thou would have us work in bringing to others help in Thy name. Please clarify our minds as to the method and way for us to proceed in seeking to help others. You will answer any questions that will be asked.
(02:57:34) (ron) Mr. C: Yes, we have the individuals and the group as gathered here. IN SEEKING FOR UNDERSTANDING, LET EACH HARKEN TO WHAT HE HAS TO SAY.
(02:58:03) (ron) and Jesus is speaking
(02:58:38) (ron) at least, they think it is Him...and it seems so to me
(02:59:04) (ron) Come, my children, lift up thine hearts that I may enter in. As ye have chosen me, so have I chosen you, that ye may be a blessing to those who seek in my name to KNOW the truth as may be magnified in THEIR lives through THINE aid in me. Grace, mercy and peace, is given to those thou asketh for in the proportion as thy trust, thy faith, is IN me.
(03:00:13) (ron) . As ye seek through raising in self that image of love in Him, so MAY thine self be lifted up, and the understanding come to him who SEEKS for same.
(03:01:25) (ron) Q. Is there any danger in trying to heal someone else?
(03:01:40) (ron) A. (After long pause) Questions - (after) the promise as has been just made?
(03:02:00) (Blu) ouch
(03:02:03) (ron) Q. Should each of us as individuals, after raising the Christ's vibrations in ourselves, send these as individuals or through only one of our group?
(03:02:27) (ron) A. Where two or three are gathered in My name, THERE I will be in the midst of them, whether in thought or in person.
(03:02:43) (ron) whether in thought or in person.
(03:03:03) (ron) Q. Please explain why the Master in many cases forgave sins in healing individuals.
(03:03:06) (true_eagle) hello my lord ^i^
(03:03:56) (ron) apparently, Cayce and Jesus are participating...this seems so to me
(03:04:06) (ron) A. Sins are of commission and omission. Sins of commission were forgiven, while sins of omission were called to mind - even by the Master.
(03:04:32) (ron) Q. How should the group make itself known to those whom it might help?
(03:04:48) (ron) A. Fear not that thine work will not find an outlet, once there is union of purpose. Has He not said, "Be joyous in that I have chosen THEE, as THOU hast chosen me?" and "Ye may be lights in my name"?
(03:05:16) (ron) We are through. (281-2) 12/16/31
(03:05:39) (ron) Mrs. C.: We, the group designated as the healing group have gathered here to seek through these channels to know why and how we are fitted to carry on this special part of the work. Please guide us into the right path, that we may know Thy Will and be used to do Thy Work.
(03:06:11) (ron) Mr. C.: Yes, we have the group as gathered here, as designated as a group to carryon that portion in this material world. Each as are gathered here are fitted in their own particular way for a portion of that work designated by the group as the healing group. Hence, when once chosen, and the face set in that direction, that as the warning, as the threat.
(03:06:50) (ron) Q. Outline our individual work as we are named, and indicate that which needs to be stressed in our meditations to better fit us for carrying on our part.
(03:07:22) (ron) A. Even as there was the call in the past of those that needed His Love, His understanding, so may thy part be in making known to others that there is that power being made manifest through this group, who put their trust in Him;
(03:07:47) (ron) for the way ye know, even as it was given thee-and the place ye know, for ye may make many to know His name, even as I call thee by name. Heed, as thou didst of old-for this purpose brought I thee into being, that My Love may be known in this land. Be faithful unto the end. (281-1)
(03:08:27) (ron) even as I call thee by name. Heed, as thou didst of old-for this purpose brought I thee into being, that My Love may be known in this land. Be faithful unto the end.
(03:08:40) (ron) Mrs. C. You will have before you the group gathered here. Please give them at this time that which they need in continuing their work on the lesson which they are preparing on "What Is Your Ideal ?" You will answer the questions which will be asked in regard to this by some of those present.
(03:08:41) (Blu) I don't understand this part - Hence, when once chosen, and the face set in that direction, that as the warning, as the threat.
(03:11:05) (ron) i remember that as well....i'm not sure that had anything to do with the question as to what is to be the :right path"...that is all i am able to see right right now
(03:11:33) (Blu) almost ike something got left out
(03:12:59) (ron) the question, "the right path"...about making wrong choices, perhaps...thus might be considered as one going in the wrong direction...you must read the question and see if you can make any sense of it...iscanned all of this...i do not type anything!
(03:13:30) (Blu) yeah, I see whatyou are saying Ron...I thought they might have purposefully left it out
(03:13:54) (diane) One would be threatened by the decision to pick a wrong direction
(03:14:10) (diane) so heed the warning, to stay on the designated path.
(03:14:20) (ron) i really don't know blu...i haven't really thought about the ending of that sentence
(03:14:20) (diane) this would seem to make some sense
(03:14:29) (ron) i would say so diane
(03:14:36) (Blu) that makes sense
(03:14:44) (Blu) Thanks
(03:14:52) (ron) Mrs. C. You will have before you the group gathered here. Please give them at this time that which they need in continuing their work on the lesson which they are preparing on "What Is Your Ideal ?" You will answer the questions which will be asked in regard to this by some of those present.
(03:14:57) (diane) It's difficult language usage, to be sure
(03:15:14) (Leon) Perhaps the only thing that can be threatened is the 'ego'
(03:15:20) (ron) Mr. C. We have the group as gathered here. Also that has been given in "What Is Thy Ideal?" As has been given, there will come a sign to the group, or to members of same-will they make the ideal that is as one with Him. The promise is, as was given of Him; ®for I will bring to remembrance all things whatsoever has been my part with you, for in such manifestations is my Father glorified in you".
(03:16:10) (ron) the scanner made a mistake lol
(03:16:17) (diane) lol
(03:16:22) (ron) before the letter for
(03:16:30) (ron) word
(03:16:36) (diane) yep, i see it
(03:16:52) (ron) Q. Please explain to me how I should proceed in order to attain my true ideal.
(03:19:33) (ron) FOR THE PRAYER WAS, "MAY THY BE ONE, EVEN AS THOU AND I ARE ONE", for, as given, a SPIRITUAL INSIGHT brings the SEEING of the best in each life. There is good in all, for they are of the Father, and have been bought with the price, even of the Son, in that flesh may know the GLORY of the Father that may be manifested even in thee!
(03:20:17) (ron) Q. What can we do as individuals and as a group that we may come to a oneness of purpose, in a cooperative manner, which will then give the group a one IDEAL?
(03:20:51) (ron) A. This must be found in the Father, for "YE I HAVE CHOSEN, AS YE HAVE CHOSEN ME. HE I HAVE CALLED, HIM DID I ALSO PREDESTINE - AND THEY HEAR MY VOICE, AND ANSWER BY MY NAME."
(03:21:33) (ron) In that name alone may the CALLING and ELECTION be sure; presenting selves, each, in a way and manner that is holy and acceptable unto THEE, according to thine OWN understanding, doing each day that as thou knowest is in accord with that ideal, and the WAY is shown thee! Be not over hasty in word or deed, for it IS line upon line, here a little, there a little;
(03:22:07) (ron) for it is the LITTLE leaven that leaveneth the whole lump, and such compared He to the KINGDOM of God. The kingdom, then, is within. Go. Do. That as I have shown thee, so do ye, and there will be peace, harmony, understanding, light, that saves - even unto the end.
(03:22:42) (ron) Q. What would be the most important work for the group or individual to do at this time?
(03:22:55) (Blu) So they asked for an IDEAL and he said, you have to get that from theFather yourself!
(03:23:04) (ron) A. Each show forth in their own way of manifesting His love day by day. Said He: "A NEW COMMANDMENT GIVE I UNTO YOU: LOVE ONE ANOTHER." In this manner may the greater work, may the greater blessing, COME to one and all.
(03:24:55) (ron) Q. In the reading of Feb. 7th, in Knowing Self, please explain what was meant by "Work, work! For the night is coming, and in Him will be that Light that gives rest unto the soul! For the night is coming, and in Him will be that Light that gives rest unto the soul"
(03:25:33) (ron) A. In this is seen that AS WAS EXPRESSED BY Him. "BEHOLD THE FIELDS ARE WHITE UNTO THE HARVEST, BUT THE LABORERES ARE FEW." Ye have signified the willingness to be a laborer with Him. Then work, work! For the night, for the shades of those things that bring doubt, darkness, dissimilitude, will come - unless one is busy with that they know to do; but with the labor comes that rest as promised in Him.
(03:26:10) (ron) Q. Just how is it meant that I should give of my best to Him? In what manner may I do that?
(03:26:32) (ron) A. Study that thou sayest, that thou doest, and reserve NOTHING - in strength of body or mind - in service to others, THAT IS a reflection of that He would have thee do, as thou knowest how.
(03:26:57) (ron) As was given by Him, let thine works, thine efforts, be EVEN AS WAS SAID by Him, "IF YE WILL NTO BELIEVE ME, YE WILL BELIEVE FOR THE VERY WORKS SAKE - FOR THE THINGS I DO BESPEAK THAT I BELIEVE, I AM" (262-12)
(03:27:28) (ron) This psychic reading (254-76) was given by Edgar Cayce (without being requested), after entire suggestion had been given for waking him, at end of 378-50, on 6/11/34.
(03:27:58) (ron) How beautiful the face of those whom the Lord, the Christ, smiles upon! He would walk and talk with thee, my children, if ye will but put away from thy mind those things and conditions that ye feel are in the way. For, they are as naught compared to the great love that He has bestowed upon His brethren.
(03:28:27) (ron) How beautiful the face, how lovely the clouds! In His presence abide; ye, EVERYONE of you are before Him just now. His face is turned toward thee, His heart and hand is offered you. Will ye not accept Him just now? How glorious the knowledge of His presence should awaken in the hearts of you, for He is LONELY without thee; for He has called each of you by name. Will ye fail Him now?
(03:29:06) (ron) Let His love, as He gave, be the impelling influence in thine associations one with another; yea, though ye crucify Him in thine activities and words one to another, He was crucified that ye might know Him the better. For THUS He became the Lord, they Brother, thy Savior, thy Intermediator with God, the Father.
(03:29:50) (ron) Count it joy, then, even as He, that ye are called by Him in a service - in a LOVING service - to thy fellow man; for through this lowly, weak, unworthy channel (Cayce) has He chosen to speak, for the purposes of this soul (Cayce) have been to do good unto his brethren. Love ye him.
(03:30:38) (ron) Comfort and care, for thy Master has loved him, thy brother, thy neighbor, thy friend! Love God, eschew evil. Speak oft with thy Brother, thy Savior, thy Christ, for He is oft in the midst of thee. He would bless this house, will ye but keep Him near at hand.
(03:31:11) (ron) Turn Him not away with harsh words, unkind thoughts, or belittling acts one to another! If ye are faithful to confess thy faults one to another, He is faithful to forgive; for He alone can purge thy soul and make it light in His heart, His bosom, His blood. For it was shed for thee, that thou mightiest know the love of God, of Christ, in thine day.
(03:31:46) (ron) For the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and upon him that speaks with thee. Do good that He may abide with thee, that the clouds of doubt and fear may be purged every whit from thine experience, from thine consciousness; and know that He is ALIVE in thee, wilt thou but love one another even as He has loved you.
(03:32:19) (ron) See the glory of His light shine upon him that speaks to thee. Know the Lord is nigh unto thee. Fare ye in the way that brings peace, harmony; for if ye will have peace, make peace with another, make peace with thy self, thy Lord, thy Christ, thine Brother.
(03:32:46) (ron) Love one another! (254-76)
(03:33:05) (ron) Cayce then woke up, without a further waking suggestion being given. Strained relations between those present may have been the background which caused the above message to come through at this particular time.
(03:33:23) (Blu) wow
(03:33:26) (ron) The following reading (1158-9) is noteworthy in that it is one of the very few examples wherein Cayce takes a fellow entity properly to task for negative thinking. Also, the Biblical references alone are worth inclusion.
(03:33:54) (ron) (In the present, with) the death of the (entity's) father, when in thine own physical purposes there was the reasoning, "If He healed, why did He let Father die? If He is such as so many proclaim, WHY hath He been so long away? WHY does He continue to go here, there? Why do those that are in authority appear against Him?" These are questions then, they are questions ever. Is it not a reciprocal world?
(03:34:35) (ron) Q. Did I see Jesus after the Resurrection?
(03:34:47) (ron) A. Saw Jesus upon the Mount, as did many.
(03:34:58) (ron) Q. Are the children who were born to the entity in this Palestine period known to the entity today, and in what connection?
(03:35:14) (ron) A. They may be known, as grandchildren.
(03:35:49) (ron) here is something more on JudasIscariot...should i continue?
(03:35:55) (Blu) yes
(03:36:02) (Leon) yes
(03:36:14) (ron) Q. IS PETER KNOWN TO ME TODAY?
(03:36:31) (ron) A. NOT KNOWN. AS HAS BEEN INDICATED, THERE ARE MANY OF THE APOSTLES, OR DISCIPLES, THAT MAY BE KNOWN. There's BARTHOLOMEW that may be known. There is ANDREW, there is JUDE (thy brother) that may be known. There is even JUDAS - don't know him, shouldn't know him; not as a fault in his, but better not.
(03:37:03) (ron) JOHN MAY ENTER, and will be known - and as one that may be proclaimed by the entity. These come only, to be sure, as conditions - but may become personal experiences. Just as this: How personal is thy God?
(03:37:28) (ron) Just as personal as ye will let Him be! How close is the Christ as was manifested in the physical body, Jesus? Just as near, just as dear as ye will let Him be! Oft ye may ask, from thy enquiring mind, when I so desire to know Him, why then do I not see, do I not hear?
(03:37:54) (ron) maybe that was the only comment on Judas...going on we'll see
(03:38:11) (ron) "How long, 0 Lord, how long? Look not for a sign, as a SIGN," as He gave, "but BE-and ye are as One with Him!"
(03:38:39) (ron) These become not as trites, not as sayings - they must be experienced by self! They may not be EXPERIENCED by merely being told. Ye live them! "As ye live in me and I in the Father, ask what ye will and it will be done unto thee!"
(03:39:07) (ron) Ye wait, then, knowing. He knoweth what thou hast need of before ye ask. Then ye say, Why ask?
(03:39:23) (ron) In the love of thine own children, is it those who ask or those who do not ask that make a response? Not that ye love one more than the other; not for impunity, but a reciprocal reaction!
(03:39:54) (ron) Those things are as God is. And they that would know Him must BELIEVE that He is; and most of all ACT that way!
(03:40:14) (ron) Q. Should I hope and seek for personal experiences or contacts with Jesus as a personality now?
(03:40:28) (ron) A. As has been indicated, this may be. Not as a desire for self-exaltation, that is, self-proof, self-evidence; but it is evidenced in thee when YE are (in thy living, in thy thinking, in thy acting) One with Him.
(03:40:50) (ron) Then, and thus - how hath the angel given? "As ye have seen Him go, so will ye see Him come." Were those just as words? No.
(03:41:11) (ron) Thou hast seen Him oft in the acts of others and the personality ye called by another name, yet ye may see Him. And when He speaks, "Be not afraid, it is I". Know He is near. And in the breaking of bread ye may know Him!
(03:41:39) (ron) Q. In my life reading you say, "If ye would know Him, ye must endure". What is meant by Him, and what character of experience must I endure to know Him ?
(03:41:57) (ron) A. This is as has been given again and again, in that as just said. Endure! That is, endure the unkind things that may said about others. Endure that which is of the world. For as He said, "Ye are of the world but be not OF the world, even as I am in the world but not of the world".
(03:42:24) (ron) That is, the imaginative forces that impel the activities are then to be creative - and in so doing, if it requires the self-sacrifice, if it requires this or that experience, THAT is enduring. But we are looking as He gave, "I go to prepare a place - if it were not so I would have told you - that where I AM ye may be - I AM!"
(03:43:09) (ron) Does it not all remain then as a whole? For without Abraham, without Moses, yea without David what need could there be that Melchizedek, that Enoch, or Joseph, or Joshua, should again come in the flesh? fulfilling all?
(03:43:42) (ron) Have ye fulfilled all? When ye have, ye are One with Him-are ye not? Is it not a reckoning? It IS ! We are through for the present (1158-9)
(03:43:58) (ron) The following is noteworthy among the Readings because of its obvious first person narrative -
(03:44:14) (ron) should i continue next week? or go on?
(03:45:20) (true_eagle) o father in heaven an lord jesus christ.. bless u for bringing us together an let us b a tool of your will....AMEN ^I^
(03:45:34) (diane) Amen TE
(03:45:34) (true_eagle) nex week ron
(03:45:36) (ron) amen
(03:45:38) (true_eagle) ty
(03:45:48) (true_eagle) i loved it
(03:45:49) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(03:46:38) (WalksInSpirit) AWESOME chat, Ron!!! Thank you!
(03:46:44) (diane) this is excellent material. Boils down to a simple fact, He is always with us, and in us
(03:46:56) (Blu) thank you Ron I loved it
(03:46:56) (ron) ok...i didn't realize that Judas was only mentioned briefly with the recent, above reading
(03:47:04) (ron) ok next week
(03:47:12) (ron) was anyone bored?
(03:47:12) (true_eagle) yes ron .. u help bring us closer ......to him
(03:47:14) (Blu) that is ok Ron it was well worth reading
(03:47:21) (Blu) no Ron, not at all
(03:47:56) (WalksInSpirit) Heck, no, Ron!
(03:48:00) (true_eagle) yes di.. an tho the trubles come .. let us remember that !
(03:48:07) (ron) thank you mike...i can sense your overwhelming response to what you have just read
(03:48:30) (diane) Yes TE. The testing ground is here and now
(03:48:32) (Leon) I took notes, a lot of information coming at me.
(03:48:57) (diane) Good for you Leon. Want to share?
(03:49:25) (true_eagle) you got it ron .. i was caught up . in it .. see wat u can do !
(03:49:53) (true_eagle) yes .. an i 4 1 will measure up
(03:49:53) (Blu) I read this and it hit me I should email him again , meaning my son and I stopped and did it in the middle of Chat.
(03:49:57) (Blu) In the love of thine own children, is it those who ask or those who do not ask that make a response? Not that ye love one more than the other; not for impunity, but a reciprocal reaction!
(03:50:10) (Leon) that where 'I Am' ye may be 'I Am' something to know and remember
(03:50:38) (diane) yes, Leon
(03:52:09) (true_eagle) bless u ron .. u hav a
(03:52:13) (ron) i'm really glad that i have so many here this afternoon...i can't imagine how much i appreciate all your company
(03:52:16) (true_eagle) blessed gift
(03:52:52) (true_eagle) hey buddy .. u wow us !
(03:52:59) (Leon) yes ron, I thank you for zeroing in on so much information
(03:54:12) (true_eagle) truley... this is a day.... the lord has made.. an ron.. u r 1 of his tools
(03:54:34) (ron) oh well, thank God for the little things as well :)
(02:25:11) (true_eagle) im gona love this !
(02:25:16) (ron) Named Uhjltd, she was the daughter of Uhjltd when the nomads made raids into the north country. She lost in soul development in the first portion of that experience, but gained from the trials of him who first taught her to pray.
(02:25:27) (Blu) me too Mikey!!! (((Mike)))
(02:25:33) (true_eagle) ty try
(02:26:11) (ron) UhjItd taught her to pray, and she later became an aide to him in separating various groups for individual healing, and became a leader herself.
(02:26:35) (ron) She was associated with Jesus Christ in his incarnation at that time as her brother, Zend, which was a previous incarnation to that as the Master; for he became the leader in that land, and much is still gained in thought from the Persian philosophy.
(02:27:07) (ron) Q. Might I receive at this time a message from the Master?
(02:27:22) (Blu) *tears*
(02:27:42) (ron) A. COME, MINE DAUGHTER, MINE SISTER. IN CHOOSING ME, AS I HAVE CHOSEN YOU, THERE COMES THAT BEAUTY OF ONENESS IN KNOWING THE WAY THAT BRINGS TO OTHERS PEACE, JOY, HAPPINESS, IN DOING HIS WILL;
(02:28:14) (ron) FOR HE THAT SEEKS TO DO HIS WILL MAY IN ME HAVE THAT PEACE, THAT JOY, THAT UNDERSTANDING, THAT GIVES TO EACH IN THEIR RESPECTIVE SPHERES THEIR NEEDS, THEIR DESIRES, AS THEIR DESIRES ARE IN ME. BE FAITHFUL, EVEN AS THOU WERT FAITHFUL THEN. (993)
(02:28:48) (ron) Is this not a direct message from the Master, or how then shall we regard it? Or, consider the following given to the entity said to have been Jude.
(02:29:09) (ron) Q. (Jude). Is this my brother Jesus talking?
(02:29:25) (ron) A. He speaks with thee often in thy meditations and prayers.
(02:29:40) (ron) Q. Will I be able to see Jesus?
(02:29:53) (ron) A. You will.
(02:30:07) (ron) Q. In John, thou saidest, "after my death, the Comforter will come". Who is the Comforter today?
(02:30:26) (ron) A. The Comforter is the gift of the Holy Spirit, for it sheds abroad in dark places, and him that keepeth My council is brought to the full understanding, and is brought to remembrance of that walk with Him.
(02:31:03) (ron) Q. Which of the disciples was the one Jude loved the best?
(02:31:23) (ron) A. John. Upon this one Jude leaned in days when chains and bonds held thee. Freed with Him and then sent into the wilderness for thy tenderness. He (John) will aid you.
(02:31:52) (ron) Q. Is John now in the flesh ?
(02:32:09) (ron) A. John yet abides in me.
(02:32:26) (ron) Q. Will he again come into the flesh?
(02:32:40) (ron) A. That remains yet to be seen.
(02:32:54) (ron) Q. Is (5770) Judas Iscariot?
(02:33:06) (ron) A. Judas Iscariot, betrayer of me.
(02:33:24) (ron) Q. He is a fine man today.
(02:33:43) (ron) A. A fine man and leans upon thee. Many have been the trials of this soul in the destruction of many places and cities. Yet, though today with much of what the world calls material bounty, he leans upon thee - yet, this soul leans on thee.
(02:34:11) (ron) Q. Should he be introduced into the work at Virginia Beach?
(02:34:16) (true_eagle) forgiveness of judas !
(02:34:33) (ron) always mike
(02:34:46) (ron) A. Yes, the more that are gathered in His name, the greater is the strength thereof.
(02:34:54) (Blu) It was a painful fulfillment of prophesy Mike
(02:35:01) (ron) Q. Am I guided when and in my approach to others regarding this ?
(02:35:19) (ron) A. Thou art. In the hour that thou speakest I put it into thine heart what to say. For oft in prayer do I speak with thee.
(02:35:39) (ron) Q. Does this demonstrate what you mean when you say "I am with you"?
(02:35:55) (ron) A. I am and will be with you always, even unto the end.
(02:36:20) (ron) We are through for the present. (137-125)
(02:36:32) (true_eagle) yes ron .. wat jesus ... taught us
(02:55:54) (ron) Within the readings Cayce often quoted the Master - sometimes directly from Scripture, or slightly paraphrased, yet at other times attributing to Him statements that are not found in historical texts. Then, too, as in some of the previous Readings, it is difficult to comprehend that this is merely a flow from Cayce's unconscious mind alone - or someone else, helping with the information.
(02:56:56) (ron) Mrs. C: We, the group designated as the healing group, have gathered here to seek through these channels to know the way Thou would have us work in bringing to others help in Thy name. Please clarify our minds as to the method and way for us to proceed in seeking to help others. You will answer any questions that will be asked.
(02:57:34) (ron) Mr. C: Yes, we have the individuals and the group as gathered here. IN SEEKING FOR UNDERSTANDING, LET EACH HARKEN TO WHAT HE HAS TO SAY.
(02:58:03) (ron) and Jesus is speaking
(02:58:38) (ron) at least, they think it is Him...and it seems so to me
(02:59:04) (ron) Come, my children, lift up thine hearts that I may enter in. As ye have chosen me, so have I chosen you, that ye may be a blessing to those who seek in my name to KNOW the truth as may be magnified in THEIR lives through THINE aid in me. Grace, mercy and peace, is given to those thou asketh for in the proportion as thy trust, thy faith, is IN me.
(03:00:13) (ron) . As ye seek through raising in self that image of love in Him, so MAY thine self be lifted up, and the understanding come to him who SEEKS for same.
(03:01:25) (ron) Q. Is there any danger in trying to heal someone else?
(03:01:40) (ron) A. (After long pause) Questions - (after) the promise as has been just made?
(03:02:00) (Blu) ouch
(03:02:03) (ron) Q. Should each of us as individuals, after raising the Christ's vibrations in ourselves, send these as individuals or through only one of our group?
(03:02:27) (ron) A. Where two or three are gathered in My name, THERE I will be in the midst of them, whether in thought or in person.
(03:02:43) (ron) whether in thought or in person.
(03:03:03) (ron) Q. Please explain why the Master in many cases forgave sins in healing individuals.
(03:03:06) (true_eagle) hello my lord ^i^
(03:03:56) (ron) apparently, Cayce and Jesus are participating...this seems so to me
(03:04:06) (ron) A. Sins are of commission and omission. Sins of commission were forgiven, while sins of omission were called to mind - even by the Master.
(03:04:32) (ron) Q. How should the group make itself known to those whom it might help?
(03:04:48) (ron) A. Fear not that thine work will not find an outlet, once there is union of purpose. Has He not said, "Be joyous in that I have chosen THEE, as THOU hast chosen me?" and "Ye may be lights in my name"?
(03:05:16) (ron) We are through. (281-2) 12/16/31
(03:05:39) (ron) Mrs. C.: We, the group designated as the healing group have gathered here to seek through these channels to know why and how we are fitted to carry on this special part of the work. Please guide us into the right path, that we may know Thy Will and be used to do Thy Work.
(03:06:11) (ron) Mr. C.: Yes, we have the group as gathered here, as designated as a group to carryon that portion in this material world. Each as are gathered here are fitted in their own particular way for a portion of that work designated by the group as the healing group. Hence, when once chosen, and the face set in that direction, that as the warning, as the threat.
(03:06:50) (ron) Q. Outline our individual work as we are named, and indicate that which needs to be stressed in our meditations to better fit us for carrying on our part.
(03:07:22) (ron) A. Even as there was the call in the past of those that needed His Love, His understanding, so may thy part be in making known to others that there is that power being made manifest through this group, who put their trust in Him;
(03:07:47) (ron) for the way ye know, even as it was given thee-and the place ye know, for ye may make many to know His name, even as I call thee by name. Heed, as thou didst of old-for this purpose brought I thee into being, that My Love may be known in this land. Be faithful unto the end. (281-1)
(03:08:27) (ron) even as I call thee by name. Heed, as thou didst of old-for this purpose brought I thee into being, that My Love may be known in this land. Be faithful unto the end.
(03:08:40) (ron) Mrs. C. You will have before you the group gathered here. Please give them at this time that which they need in continuing their work on the lesson which they are preparing on "What Is Your Ideal ?" You will answer the questions which will be asked in regard to this by some of those present.
(03:08:41) (Blu) I don't understand this part - Hence, when once chosen, and the face set in that direction, that as the warning, as the threat.
(03:11:05) (ron) i remember that as well....i'm not sure that had anything to do with the question as to what is to be the :right path"...that is all i am able to see right right now
(03:11:33) (Blu) almost ike something got left out
(03:12:59) (ron) the question, "the right path"...about making wrong choices, perhaps...thus might be considered as one going in the wrong direction...you must read the question and see if you can make any sense of it...iscanned all of this...i do not type anything!
(03:13:30) (Blu) yeah, I see whatyou are saying Ron...I thought they might have purposefully left it out
(03:13:54) (diane) One would be threatened by the decision to pick a wrong direction
(03:14:10) (diane) so heed the warning, to stay on the designated path.
(03:14:20) (ron) i really don't know blu...i haven't really thought about the ending of that sentence
(03:14:20) (diane) this would seem to make some sense
(03:14:29) (ron) i would say so diane
(03:14:36) (Blu) that makes sense
(03:14:44) (Blu) Thanks
(03:14:52) (ron) Mrs. C. You will have before you the group gathered here. Please give them at this time that which they need in continuing their work on the lesson which they are preparing on "What Is Your Ideal ?" You will answer the questions which will be asked in regard to this by some of those present.
(03:14:57) (diane) It's difficult language usage, to be sure
(03:15:14) (Leon) Perhaps the only thing that can be threatened is the 'ego'
(03:15:20) (ron) Mr. C. We have the group as gathered here. Also that has been given in "What Is Thy Ideal?" As has been given, there will come a sign to the group, or to members of same-will they make the ideal that is as one with Him. The promise is, as was given of Him; ®for I will bring to remembrance all things whatsoever has been my part with you, for in such manifestations is my Father glorified in you".
(03:16:10) (ron) the scanner made a mistake lol
(03:16:17) (diane) lol
(03:16:22) (ron) before the letter for
(03:16:30) (ron) word
(03:16:36) (diane) yep, i see it
(03:16:52) (ron) Q. Please explain to me how I should proceed in order to attain my true ideal.
(03:19:33) (ron) FOR THE PRAYER WAS, "MAY THY BE ONE, EVEN AS THOU AND I ARE ONE", for, as given, a SPIRITUAL INSIGHT brings the SEEING of the best in each life. There is good in all, for they are of the Father, and have been bought with the price, even of the Son, in that flesh may know the GLORY of the Father that may be manifested even in thee!
(03:20:17) (ron) Q. What can we do as individuals and as a group that we may come to a oneness of purpose, in a cooperative manner, which will then give the group a one IDEAL?
(03:20:51) (ron) A. This must be found in the Father, for "YE I HAVE CHOSEN, AS YE HAVE CHOSEN ME. HE I HAVE CALLED, HIM DID I ALSO PREDESTINE - AND THEY HEAR MY VOICE, AND ANSWER BY MY NAME."
(03:21:33) (ron) In that name alone may the CALLING and ELECTION be sure; presenting selves, each, in a way and manner that is holy and acceptable unto THEE, according to thine OWN understanding, doing each day that as thou knowest is in accord with that ideal, and the WAY is shown thee! Be not over hasty in word or deed, for it IS line upon line, here a little, there a little;
(03:22:07) (ron) for it is the LITTLE leaven that leaveneth the whole lump, and such compared He to the KINGDOM of God. The kingdom, then, is within. Go. Do. That as I have shown thee, so do ye, and there will be peace, harmony, understanding, light, that saves - even unto the end.
(03:22:42) (ron) Q. What would be the most important work for the group or individual to do at this time?
(03:22:55) (Blu) So they asked for an IDEAL and he said, you have to get that from theFather yourself!
(03:23:04) (ron) A. Each show forth in their own way of manifesting His love day by day. Said He: "A NEW COMMANDMENT GIVE I UNTO YOU: LOVE ONE ANOTHER." In this manner may the greater work, may the greater blessing, COME to one and all.
(03:24:55) (ron) Q. In the reading of Feb. 7th, in Knowing Self, please explain what was meant by "Work, work! For the night is coming, and in Him will be that Light that gives rest unto the soul! For the night is coming, and in Him will be that Light that gives rest unto the soul"
(03:25:33) (ron) A. In this is seen that AS WAS EXPRESSED BY Him. "BEHOLD THE FIELDS ARE WHITE UNTO THE HARVEST, BUT THE LABORERES ARE FEW." Ye have signified the willingness to be a laborer with Him. Then work, work! For the night, for the shades of those things that bring doubt, darkness, dissimilitude, will come - unless one is busy with that they know to do; but with the labor comes that rest as promised in Him.
(03:26:10) (ron) Q. Just how is it meant that I should give of my best to Him? In what manner may I do that?
(03:26:32) (ron) A. Study that thou sayest, that thou doest, and reserve NOTHING - in strength of body or mind - in service to others, THAT IS a reflection of that He would have thee do, as thou knowest how.
(03:26:57) (ron) As was given by Him, let thine works, thine efforts, be EVEN AS WAS SAID by Him, "IF YE WILL NTO BELIEVE ME, YE WILL BELIEVE FOR THE VERY WORKS SAKE - FOR THE THINGS I DO BESPEAK THAT I BELIEVE, I AM" (262-12)
(03:27:28) (ron) This psychic reading (254-76) was given by Edgar Cayce (without being requested), after entire suggestion had been given for waking him, at end of 378-50, on 6/11/34.
(03:27:58) (ron) How beautiful the face of those whom the Lord, the Christ, smiles upon! He would walk and talk with thee, my children, if ye will but put away from thy mind those things and conditions that ye feel are in the way. For, they are as naught compared to the great love that He has bestowed upon His brethren.
(03:28:27) (ron) How beautiful the face, how lovely the clouds! In His presence abide; ye, EVERYONE of you are before Him just now. His face is turned toward thee, His heart and hand is offered you. Will ye not accept Him just now? How glorious the knowledge of His presence should awaken in the hearts of you, for He is LONELY without thee; for He has called each of you by name. Will ye fail Him now?
(03:29:06) (ron) Let His love, as He gave, be the impelling influence in thine associations one with another; yea, though ye crucify Him in thine activities and words one to another, He was crucified that ye might know Him the better. For THUS He became the Lord, they Brother, thy Savior, thy Intermediator with God, the Father.
(03:29:50) (ron) Count it joy, then, even as He, that ye are called by Him in a service - in a LOVING service - to thy fellow man; for through this lowly, weak, unworthy channel (Cayce) has He chosen to speak, for the purposes of this soul (Cayce) have been to do good unto his brethren. Love ye him.
(03:30:38) (ron) Comfort and care, for thy Master has loved him, thy brother, thy neighbor, thy friend! Love God, eschew evil. Speak oft with thy Brother, thy Savior, thy Christ, for He is oft in the midst of thee. He would bless this house, will ye but keep Him near at hand.
(03:31:11) (ron) Turn Him not away with harsh words, unkind thoughts, or belittling acts one to another! If ye are faithful to confess thy faults one to another, He is faithful to forgive; for He alone can purge thy soul and make it light in His heart, His bosom, His blood. For it was shed for thee, that thou mightiest know the love of God, of Christ, in thine day.
(03:31:46) (ron) For the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and upon him that speaks with thee. Do good that He may abide with thee, that the clouds of doubt and fear may be purged every whit from thine experience, from thine consciousness; and know that He is ALIVE in thee, wilt thou but love one another even as He has loved you.
(03:32:19) (ron) See the glory of His light shine upon him that speaks to thee. Know the Lord is nigh unto thee. Fare ye in the way that brings peace, harmony; for if ye will have peace, make peace with another, make peace with thy self, thy Lord, thy Christ, thine Brother.
(03:32:46) (ron) Love one another! (254-76)
(03:33:05) (ron) Cayce then woke up, without a further waking suggestion being given. Strained relations between those present may have been the background which caused the above message to come through at this particular time.
(03:33:23) (Blu) wow
(03:33:26) (ron) The following reading (1158-9) is noteworthy in that it is one of the very few examples wherein Cayce takes a fellow entity properly to task for negative thinking. Also, the Biblical references alone are worth inclusion.
(03:33:54) (ron) (In the present, with) the death of the (entity's) father, when in thine own physical purposes there was the reasoning, "If He healed, why did He let Father die? If He is such as so many proclaim, WHY hath He been so long away? WHY does He continue to go here, there? Why do those that are in authority appear against Him?" These are questions then, they are questions ever. Is it not a reciprocal world?
(03:34:35) (ron) Q. Did I see Jesus after the Resurrection?
(03:34:47) (ron) A. Saw Jesus upon the Mount, as did many.
(03:34:58) (ron) Q. Are the children who were born to the entity in this Palestine period known to the entity today, and in what connection?
(03:35:14) (ron) A. They may be known, as grandchildren.
(03:35:49) (ron) here is something more on JudasIscariot...should i continue?
(03:35:55) (Blu) yes
(03:36:02) (Leon) yes
(03:36:14) (ron) Q. IS PETER KNOWN TO ME TODAY?
(03:36:31) (ron) A. NOT KNOWN. AS HAS BEEN INDICATED, THERE ARE MANY OF THE APOSTLES, OR DISCIPLES, THAT MAY BE KNOWN. There's BARTHOLOMEW that may be known. There is ANDREW, there is JUDE (thy brother) that may be known. There is even JUDAS - don't know him, shouldn't know him; not as a fault in his, but better not.
(03:37:03) (ron) JOHN MAY ENTER, and will be known - and as one that may be proclaimed by the entity. These come only, to be sure, as conditions - but may become personal experiences. Just as this: How personal is thy God?
(03:37:28) (ron) Just as personal as ye will let Him be! How close is the Christ as was manifested in the physical body, Jesus? Just as near, just as dear as ye will let Him be! Oft ye may ask, from thy enquiring mind, when I so desire to know Him, why then do I not see, do I not hear?
(03:37:54) (ron) maybe that was the only comment on Judas...going on we'll see
(03:38:11) (ron) "How long, 0 Lord, how long? Look not for a sign, as a SIGN," as He gave, "but BE-and ye are as One with Him!"
(03:38:39) (ron) These become not as trites, not as sayings - they must be experienced by self! They may not be EXPERIENCED by merely being told. Ye live them! "As ye live in me and I in the Father, ask what ye will and it will be done unto thee!"
(03:39:07) (ron) Ye wait, then, knowing. He knoweth what thou hast need of before ye ask. Then ye say, Why ask?
(03:39:23) (ron) In the love of thine own children, is it those who ask or those who do not ask that make a response? Not that ye love one more than the other; not for impunity, but a reciprocal reaction!
(03:39:54) (ron) Those things are as God is. And they that would know Him must BELIEVE that He is; and most of all ACT that way!
(03:40:14) (ron) Q. Should I hope and seek for personal experiences or contacts with Jesus as a personality now?
(03:40:28) (ron) A. As has been indicated, this may be. Not as a desire for self-exaltation, that is, self-proof, self-evidence; but it is evidenced in thee when YE are (in thy living, in thy thinking, in thy acting) One with Him.
(03:40:50) (ron) Then, and thus - how hath the angel given? "As ye have seen Him go, so will ye see Him come." Were those just as words? No.
(03:41:11) (ron) Thou hast seen Him oft in the acts of others and the personality ye called by another name, yet ye may see Him. And when He speaks, "Be not afraid, it is I". Know He is near. And in the breaking of bread ye may know Him!
(03:41:39) (ron) Q. In my life reading you say, "If ye would know Him, ye must endure". What is meant by Him, and what character of experience must I endure to know Him ?
(03:41:57) (ron) A. This is as has been given again and again, in that as just said. Endure! That is, endure the unkind things that may said about others. Endure that which is of the world. For as He said, "Ye are of the world but be not OF the world, even as I am in the world but not of the world".
(03:42:24) (ron) That is, the imaginative forces that impel the activities are then to be creative - and in so doing, if it requires the self-sacrifice, if it requires this or that experience, THAT is enduring. But we are looking as He gave, "I go to prepare a place - if it were not so I would have told you - that where I AM ye may be - I AM!"
(03:43:09) (ron) Does it not all remain then as a whole? For without Abraham, without Moses, yea without David what need could there be that Melchizedek, that Enoch, or Joseph, or Joshua, should again come in the flesh? fulfilling all?
(03:43:42) (ron) Have ye fulfilled all? When ye have, ye are One with Him-are ye not? Is it not a reckoning? It IS ! We are through for the present (1158-9)
(03:43:58) (ron) The following is noteworthy among the Readings because of its obvious first person narrative -
(03:44:14) (ron) should i continue next week? or go on?
(03:45:20) (true_eagle) o father in heaven an lord jesus christ.. bless u for bringing us together an let us b a tool of your will....AMEN ^I^
(03:45:34) (diane) Amen TE
(03:45:34) (true_eagle) nex week ron
(03:45:36) (ron) amen
(03:45:38) (true_eagle) ty
(03:45:48) (true_eagle) i loved it
(03:45:49) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(03:46:38) (WalksInSpirit) AWESOME chat, Ron!!! Thank you!
(03:46:44) (diane) this is excellent material. Boils down to a simple fact, He is always with us, and in us
(03:46:56) (Blu) thank you Ron I loved it
(03:46:56) (ron) ok...i didn't realize that Judas was only mentioned briefly with the recent, above reading
(03:47:04) (ron) ok next week
(03:47:12) (ron) was anyone bored?
(03:47:12) (true_eagle) yes ron .. u help bring us closer ......to him
(03:47:14) (Blu) that is ok Ron it was well worth reading
(03:47:21) (Blu) no Ron, not at all
(03:47:56) (WalksInSpirit) Heck, no, Ron!
(03:48:00) (true_eagle) yes di.. an tho the trubles come .. let us remember that !
(03:48:07) (ron) thank you mike...i can sense your overwhelming response to what you have just read
(03:48:30) (diane) Yes TE. The testing ground is here and now
(03:48:32) (Leon) I took notes, a lot of information coming at me.
(03:48:57) (diane) Good for you Leon. Want to share?
(03:49:25) (true_eagle) you got it ron .. i was caught up . in it .. see wat u can do !
(03:49:53) (true_eagle) yes .. an i 4 1 will measure up
(03:49:53) (Blu) I read this and it hit me I should email him again , meaning my son and I stopped and did it in the middle of Chat.
(03:49:57) (Blu) In the love of thine own children, is it those who ask or those who do not ask that make a response? Not that ye love one more than the other; not for impunity, but a reciprocal reaction!
(03:50:10) (Leon) that where 'I Am' ye may be 'I Am' something to know and remember
(03:50:38) (diane) yes, Leon
(03:52:09) (true_eagle) bless u ron .. u hav a
(03:52:13) (ron) i'm really glad that i have so many here this afternoon...i can't imagine how much i appreciate all your company
(03:52:16) (true_eagle) blessed gift
(03:52:52) (true_eagle) hey buddy .. u wow us !
(03:52:59) (Leon) yes ron, I thank you for zeroing in on so much information
(03:54:12) (true_eagle) truley... this is a day.... the lord has made.. an ron.. u r 1 of his tools
(03:54:34) (ron) oh well, thank God for the little things as well :)
