Post by WalksInSpirit on Oct 27, 2006 14:45:51 GMT -5
LIFE AND DEATH: 10-27-06
(02:30:09) (ron) Edgar Cayce quotes: LIFE AND DEATH
(02:30:30) (ron) (Q) How can I desire to live more than to die, especially during two weeks or more of every month?
(02:31:05) (ron) (A) It is known by the body that this condition has been allowed to gradually increase by not doing things the body should, and by doing many things the body should not. Then, to meet these, the FIRST consideration MUST be taken in hand! The SPIRIT is willing, the FLESH is weak. CRUCIFY (if necessary) the flesh and the body, but SAVE the soul; save the spiritual self!
(02:31:42) (ron) and this may be accomplished through DESIRING first to AWAKEN that! Hold fast to that thou knowest in self is able TO OVERCOME these conditions! physically acting, physically doing those things that have been outlined that are conducive to INDUCING and producing the physical effects; and that which must be met mentally in torture of body, meet it with a SMILE! knowing that it can be - it MUST be - it WILL be overcome!
(02:32:26) (ron) (Q) When I desire death more than life, how can I use my will?
(02:32:50) (ron) A) When desire for death and the desire for life is presented, what is it that makes the life go on? The will! The spiritual life, the essence of God itself! Would the body be so weak as to crucify that it worships, rather than that which is only tagged on - in desires? Make thy life ONE WITH His love! When such desires, such thoughts, even, find lodgment, look about self and see the struggle so many souls are making to keep body and soul together.
(02:32:55) (true_eagle_mike) i desire death
(02:33:05) (Blu) That is a lot to take in!
(02:33:37) (ron) How hast thou in ANY manner ministered to making THEIR burden lighter? In lightening the burden of another thine own is lightened twofold. In lightening the burdens of another the whole of will's power is strengthened manyfold. 911-7 F 24 12/2/1932
(02:34:37) (diane) wow mike...
(02:34:38) (ron) Let His love, as He gave, be the impelling influence in thine associations one with another; yea, though ye crucify Him in thine activities and words one to another, He was crucified that ye might know Him the better. For THUS He became thy Lord, thy Brother, thy Savior, thy Intermediator with God, the Father!
(02:34:44) (true_eagle_mike) true
(02:35:26) (diane) I believe you, just wonder why
(02:35:41) (ron) i think there is a very powerful sentence above
(02:35:50) (Blu) wonder why what di?
(02:35:52) (true_eagle_mike) becayse .. ther is somthing better.. thats y
(02:35:54) (Blu) it is Ron
(02:36:09) (ron) though ye crucify Him in thine activities and words one to another,
(02:36:12) (Blu) ok, i see diane
(02:36:16) (diane) ok
(02:36:41) (Blu) do you guys play little mental minds games with your self when it comes to prayer and talking to god?
(02:36:45) (Blu) I do
(02:36:46) (ron) Count it joy, then, even as He, that ye are called by Him in a service - in a LOVING service - to thy fellow man; for through this lowly, weak, unworthy channel has He chosen to speak, for the purposes of this soul have been to do good unto his brethren. Love ye him. Comfort and care, for thy Master has loved him, thy brother, thy neighbor, thy friend! Love God, eschew evil.
(02:36:56) (true_eagle_mike) nope.. not i
(02:37:05) (Blu) I see myself talking to Jesus and then sa now you go ask The Father!
(02:37:14) (Blu) LOL, Like a kid
(02:37:22) (WalksInSpirit) Well, I battled back to stay here. I died twice after that twister, but I love life and I love being a channel of God's blessings to others. I wanted to stay here so I could be about His work here to help people. :-)
(02:37:30) (diane) lol...sometimes I do that with the Blessed Virgin
(02:37:43) (Blu) me too di!
(02:37:45) (ron) i don't think i play mind games to myself...i do tell a lot of silly jokes during the day and evening chats :)
(02:37:48) (true_eagle_mike) i feel like im on hold .. an i dont like it
(02:37:49) (Blu) I have done that with her
(02:38:09) (Blu) that's cause you got something to do Mike
(02:38:34) (ron) yes, i do address God as Father
(02:38:41) (Blu) if you were not meant to be here you would not behere!
(02:38:41) (true_eagle_mike) yea ... well lord .. bring it on.. im the impatient type
(02:38:59) (ron) Count it joy, then, even as He, that ye are called by Him in a service - in a LOVING service - to thy fellow man; for through this lowly, weak, unworthy channel has He chosen to speak, for the purposes of this soul have been to do good unto his brethren. Love ye him. Comfort and care, for thy Master has loved him, thy brother, thy neighbor, thy friend! Love God, eschew evil.
(02:39:07) (true_eagle_mike) so it seamms blu
(02:39:08) (Blu) it;'s coming, you do not have to wait long Mike
(02:39:25) (true_eagle_mike) i hope u r right
(02:39:38) (ron) Speak oft with thy brother, thy Savior, thy Christ, for He is oft in the midst of thee. He would bless this house, will ye but keep Him near at hand. Turn Him not away with harsh words, unkind thoughts, or belittling acts one to another! If ye are faithful to confess thy faults one to another,
(02:39:53) (Blu) when it gets here you mightnot recognize the event as a good thing, I know I ususally don't!
(02:39:59) (true_eagle_mike) i hav the knowing.. an now i hav the wanting
(02:40:11) (WalksInSpirit) Mike, ask God to show you what your soul's purpose is. I did, and I was brought back to my music, and I have been soooo happy ever since! He'll show you, but you gotta ask!
(02:40:17) (ron) He is faithful to forgive; for He alone can purge thy soul and make it light in His heart, His bosom, His blood. For it was shed for thee, that thou mightest know the love of God, of Christ, in thine day. For the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and upon him that speaks with thee.
(02:40:30) (true_eagle_mike) wat ever i i size things up fast
(02:40:52) (true_eagle_mike) i hav wis . all the time
(02:41:10) (Blu) I know 911 looked like a real bad thing to me, and everything since...but there is a good purpose for it
(02:41:18) (WalksInSpirit) Then, be watchin, Brother! ;-)
(02:41:23) (ron) this article i picked up was to do with life and death...i see the "life" part of it
(02:41:43) (true_eagle_mike) i knew it was comming ..i told people
(02:41:46) (ron) Know the Lord is nigh unto thee. Fare ye in the way that brings peace, harmony; for if ye will have peace, make peace with another, make peace with thy self, thy Lord, thy Christ, thine brother. Love one another. 254-76 6/11/1934
(02:41:58) (Blu) did you notice that confess your faults to one another?
(02:42:05) (true_eagle_mike) aho .. .. i will let u know !
(02:42:05) (Blu) we should exercize that
(02:42:30) (ron) Cayce: We have the group as gathered here, and the work and the outline IN HIS PRESENCE. As each contribute to the lesson there should be that continued thought of self being one in His presence, one that would have self and that as expressed in keeping with that He would have each one be,
(02:42:42) (WalksInSpirit) When I was in that hospital bed and could not walk, talk, feed myself, my Aunt Alice told me to wake up every day expecting a miracle. And I started doin that, and I haven't stopped yet! :-D And I'm walking, talking, doin things the docs said I'd never do again!
(02:43:14) (ron) knowing that as others view the expressions of self in the lessons there is gained by them a concept of what His presence means to those that would walk with Him day by day. Let each in the light of their understanding so live that they bespeak that they profess with their lips to believe, that others may know that that individual is keeping that presence they hold as their ideal in such a direct consciousness as to be a living example of that they profess.
(02:43:18) (Blu) PRaise God
(02:43:37) (true_eagle_mike) amen ^i^
(02:43:57) (Blu) walk the talk
(02:44:01) (ron) In such ways and manners do the truths gained in meditation and thought become living truths and acceptable truths in His sight. So do we show forth that we would crucify the flesh, that the spirit of Him may be made manifest in this material world. Each recognize that the world, the country, the nation, the people are passing through a period of seeking, a period of adjustments in the spiritual thought, the spiritual intent
(02:44:03) (diane) You're an example of faith, WIS
(02:44:20) (true_eagle_mike) yes the walk .. so minny dont
(02:44:28) (Blu) (((WIS)))
(02:44:43) (WalksInSpirit) God sends 'em. We just have to see 'em! ;-) That part is up to us. And I thank Him every day for what He has done in my life, and for giving me the opportunity to help other people through it. It was worth everything I went through if it helps one single person.
(02:44:47) (ron) The mental world is looking to the spiritual-minded for hope, to those who are in their material walks representatives of the spiritual forces in the thinking people, for that thought that will guide all men closer to His presence. So may this group as a group, so may each individual as their contribution to the work of the group,
(02:45:15) (Blu) Hope is so lacking in our world rightnow
(02:45:26) (ron) so may each individual as their contribution to their Maker and their Elder Brother in the Christ, bring soon that day when all may know they stand in His presence. If the country, the nation, the land, is to be lifted up as a light to the world, they must be lifted in Him and His presence abiding in them day by day. 262-32 11/13/1932 END
(02:45:57) (ron) so, do you think that the subject of life and death was clarified with these quotes?
(02:45:58) (diane) Good material, ron. ty
(02:46:02) (true_eagle_mike) once u seel the bigg picture .. all the fluff of life.. dont matter
(02:47:11) (ron) i just don't think the title given is correct...do any of you suggest a better quote title?
(02:47:14) (diane) sounds kind of like we're meant to evangelize His message ron
(02:47:26) (ron) Edgar Cayce quotes: LIFE AND DEATH
(02:47:46) (WalksInSpirit) Oh, but this life is the proving grounds. This is where we make the decisions and learn the lessons and impact the souls that will last for eternity! ;-)
(02:47:46) (ron) that's how i read it diane
(02:48:00) (diane) Could be called WHY LIFE? lol
(02:49:10) (ron) you know what i've been looking for, is the Edgar Cayce dscription, or personification of death...do any of you remember reading it?.
(02:49:22) (diane) or EC's Advice to Forlorn People
(02:49:44) (ron) that jovial, smilling character i think was wearing diapers and sissors in hand
(02:50:14) (true_eagle_mike) ec was ready.. his time had come an he wanted it !
(02:50:18) (ron) and not that famous old Grim Reaper
(02:50:35) (Blu) I have something to confess to the group
(02:50:41) (true_eagle_mike) k
(02:50:42) (Blu) I have a fault to confess
(02:50:45) (WalksInSpirit) See, this is what I know... people are the only things that last forever. And what we do to help (or hurt) another directly impacts their eternity. What an opporunity we have here to do God's work! Even the Angels don't have the opportunity we have to do that!
(02:50:53) (true_eagle_mike) well we all hav them
(02:51:01) (diane) ok Blu
(02:51:09) (Blu) A few years ago there was this girl at work, she was a cashier. When I would see her I would think, what an odd little woman. She did not try to look pretty, was very sad and miserable looking.
(02:51:14) (ron) that really sonds nice WIS,,,yes
(02:51:30) (Blu) Wore these really funky glasses and I could just feel the need poor out of her. I avoided her because I knew she had some big issues and I just did not want to get involved.
(02:51:42) (Blu) One day I walked into the break room and she had her back to the door and sat as far away from it facing the wall as she could get. she was reading a book and I just paused and looked at her.
(02:51:56) (Blu) something in me told me to speak to her and say something nice. But I didn't, I just did not feel like it. so I turned around and walked out.
(02:52:02) (true_eagle_mike) facits of life blu.. an we come to terms .. with them . all apart of learning
(02:52:16) (Blu) The next day I heard she had gone home and committed suicide. God forgive me I know I could have done something to prevent that.
(02:52:39) (Blu) Edgar is right, you never know when a kind word, a smile will change a persons life
(02:52:41) (diane) that was unusual!
(02:53:04) (Blu) all it would have taken was for me to not be such a selfish cow and she might still be alive today
(02:53:20) (diane) those things rarely happen, Blu. That was a dramatic happening
(02:53:36) (ron) yes, i would feel guilty as well
(02:53:38) (Blu) That is just it Diane, we never know
(02:30:30) (ron) (Q) How can I desire to live more than to die, especially during two weeks or more of every month?
(02:31:05) (ron) (A) It is known by the body that this condition has been allowed to gradually increase by not doing things the body should, and by doing many things the body should not. Then, to meet these, the FIRST consideration MUST be taken in hand! The SPIRIT is willing, the FLESH is weak. CRUCIFY (if necessary) the flesh and the body, but SAVE the soul; save the spiritual self!
(02:31:42) (ron) and this may be accomplished through DESIRING first to AWAKEN that! Hold fast to that thou knowest in self is able TO OVERCOME these conditions! physically acting, physically doing those things that have been outlined that are conducive to INDUCING and producing the physical effects; and that which must be met mentally in torture of body, meet it with a SMILE! knowing that it can be - it MUST be - it WILL be overcome!
(02:32:26) (ron) (Q) When I desire death more than life, how can I use my will?
(02:32:50) (ron) A) When desire for death and the desire for life is presented, what is it that makes the life go on? The will! The spiritual life, the essence of God itself! Would the body be so weak as to crucify that it worships, rather than that which is only tagged on - in desires? Make thy life ONE WITH His love! When such desires, such thoughts, even, find lodgment, look about self and see the struggle so many souls are making to keep body and soul together.
(02:32:55) (true_eagle_mike) i desire death
(02:33:05) (Blu) That is a lot to take in!
(02:33:37) (ron) How hast thou in ANY manner ministered to making THEIR burden lighter? In lightening the burden of another thine own is lightened twofold. In lightening the burdens of another the whole of will's power is strengthened manyfold. 911-7 F 24 12/2/1932
(02:34:37) (diane) wow mike...
(02:34:38) (ron) Let His love, as He gave, be the impelling influence in thine associations one with another; yea, though ye crucify Him in thine activities and words one to another, He was crucified that ye might know Him the better. For THUS He became thy Lord, thy Brother, thy Savior, thy Intermediator with God, the Father!
(02:34:44) (true_eagle_mike) true
(02:35:26) (diane) I believe you, just wonder why
(02:35:41) (ron) i think there is a very powerful sentence above
(02:35:50) (Blu) wonder why what di?
(02:35:52) (true_eagle_mike) becayse .. ther is somthing better.. thats y
(02:35:54) (Blu) it is Ron
(02:36:09) (ron) though ye crucify Him in thine activities and words one to another,
(02:36:12) (Blu) ok, i see diane
(02:36:16) (diane) ok
(02:36:41) (Blu) do you guys play little mental minds games with your self when it comes to prayer and talking to god?
(02:36:45) (Blu) I do
(02:36:46) (ron) Count it joy, then, even as He, that ye are called by Him in a service - in a LOVING service - to thy fellow man; for through this lowly, weak, unworthy channel has He chosen to speak, for the purposes of this soul have been to do good unto his brethren. Love ye him. Comfort and care, for thy Master has loved him, thy brother, thy neighbor, thy friend! Love God, eschew evil.
(02:36:56) (true_eagle_mike) nope.. not i
(02:37:05) (Blu) I see myself talking to Jesus and then sa now you go ask The Father!
(02:37:14) (Blu) LOL, Like a kid
(02:37:22) (WalksInSpirit) Well, I battled back to stay here. I died twice after that twister, but I love life and I love being a channel of God's blessings to others. I wanted to stay here so I could be about His work here to help people. :-)
(02:37:30) (diane) lol...sometimes I do that with the Blessed Virgin
(02:37:43) (Blu) me too di!
(02:37:45) (ron) i don't think i play mind games to myself...i do tell a lot of silly jokes during the day and evening chats :)
(02:37:48) (true_eagle_mike) i feel like im on hold .. an i dont like it
(02:37:49) (Blu) I have done that with her
(02:38:09) (Blu) that's cause you got something to do Mike
(02:38:34) (ron) yes, i do address God as Father
(02:38:41) (Blu) if you were not meant to be here you would not behere!
(02:38:41) (true_eagle_mike) yea ... well lord .. bring it on.. im the impatient type
(02:38:59) (ron) Count it joy, then, even as He, that ye are called by Him in a service - in a LOVING service - to thy fellow man; for through this lowly, weak, unworthy channel has He chosen to speak, for the purposes of this soul have been to do good unto his brethren. Love ye him. Comfort and care, for thy Master has loved him, thy brother, thy neighbor, thy friend! Love God, eschew evil.
(02:39:07) (true_eagle_mike) so it seamms blu
(02:39:08) (Blu) it;'s coming, you do not have to wait long Mike
(02:39:25) (true_eagle_mike) i hope u r right
(02:39:38) (ron) Speak oft with thy brother, thy Savior, thy Christ, for He is oft in the midst of thee. He would bless this house, will ye but keep Him near at hand. Turn Him not away with harsh words, unkind thoughts, or belittling acts one to another! If ye are faithful to confess thy faults one to another,
(02:39:53) (Blu) when it gets here you mightnot recognize the event as a good thing, I know I ususally don't!
(02:39:59) (true_eagle_mike) i hav the knowing.. an now i hav the wanting
(02:40:11) (WalksInSpirit) Mike, ask God to show you what your soul's purpose is. I did, and I was brought back to my music, and I have been soooo happy ever since! He'll show you, but you gotta ask!
(02:40:17) (ron) He is faithful to forgive; for He alone can purge thy soul and make it light in His heart, His bosom, His blood. For it was shed for thee, that thou mightest know the love of God, of Christ, in thine day. For the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and upon him that speaks with thee.
(02:40:30) (true_eagle_mike) wat ever i i size things up fast
(02:40:52) (true_eagle_mike) i hav wis . all the time
(02:41:10) (Blu) I know 911 looked like a real bad thing to me, and everything since...but there is a good purpose for it
(02:41:18) (WalksInSpirit) Then, be watchin, Brother! ;-)
(02:41:23) (ron) this article i picked up was to do with life and death...i see the "life" part of it
(02:41:43) (true_eagle_mike) i knew it was comming ..i told people
(02:41:46) (ron) Know the Lord is nigh unto thee. Fare ye in the way that brings peace, harmony; for if ye will have peace, make peace with another, make peace with thy self, thy Lord, thy Christ, thine brother. Love one another. 254-76 6/11/1934
(02:41:58) (Blu) did you notice that confess your faults to one another?
(02:42:05) (true_eagle_mike) aho .. .. i will let u know !
(02:42:05) (Blu) we should exercize that
(02:42:30) (ron) Cayce: We have the group as gathered here, and the work and the outline IN HIS PRESENCE. As each contribute to the lesson there should be that continued thought of self being one in His presence, one that would have self and that as expressed in keeping with that He would have each one be,
(02:42:42) (WalksInSpirit) When I was in that hospital bed and could not walk, talk, feed myself, my Aunt Alice told me to wake up every day expecting a miracle. And I started doin that, and I haven't stopped yet! :-D And I'm walking, talking, doin things the docs said I'd never do again!
(02:43:14) (ron) knowing that as others view the expressions of self in the lessons there is gained by them a concept of what His presence means to those that would walk with Him day by day. Let each in the light of their understanding so live that they bespeak that they profess with their lips to believe, that others may know that that individual is keeping that presence they hold as their ideal in such a direct consciousness as to be a living example of that they profess.
(02:43:18) (Blu) PRaise God
(02:43:37) (true_eagle_mike) amen ^i^
(02:43:57) (Blu) walk the talk
(02:44:01) (ron) In such ways and manners do the truths gained in meditation and thought become living truths and acceptable truths in His sight. So do we show forth that we would crucify the flesh, that the spirit of Him may be made manifest in this material world. Each recognize that the world, the country, the nation, the people are passing through a period of seeking, a period of adjustments in the spiritual thought, the spiritual intent
(02:44:03) (diane) You're an example of faith, WIS
(02:44:20) (true_eagle_mike) yes the walk .. so minny dont
(02:44:28) (Blu) (((WIS)))
(02:44:43) (WalksInSpirit) God sends 'em. We just have to see 'em! ;-) That part is up to us. And I thank Him every day for what He has done in my life, and for giving me the opportunity to help other people through it. It was worth everything I went through if it helps one single person.
(02:44:47) (ron) The mental world is looking to the spiritual-minded for hope, to those who are in their material walks representatives of the spiritual forces in the thinking people, for that thought that will guide all men closer to His presence. So may this group as a group, so may each individual as their contribution to the work of the group,
(02:45:15) (Blu) Hope is so lacking in our world rightnow
(02:45:26) (ron) so may each individual as their contribution to their Maker and their Elder Brother in the Christ, bring soon that day when all may know they stand in His presence. If the country, the nation, the land, is to be lifted up as a light to the world, they must be lifted in Him and His presence abiding in them day by day. 262-32 11/13/1932 END
(02:45:57) (ron) so, do you think that the subject of life and death was clarified with these quotes?
(02:45:58) (diane) Good material, ron. ty
(02:46:02) (true_eagle_mike) once u seel the bigg picture .. all the fluff of life.. dont matter
(02:47:11) (ron) i just don't think the title given is correct...do any of you suggest a better quote title?
(02:47:14) (diane) sounds kind of like we're meant to evangelize His message ron
(02:47:26) (ron) Edgar Cayce quotes: LIFE AND DEATH
(02:47:46) (WalksInSpirit) Oh, but this life is the proving grounds. This is where we make the decisions and learn the lessons and impact the souls that will last for eternity! ;-)
(02:47:46) (ron) that's how i read it diane
(02:48:00) (diane) Could be called WHY LIFE? lol
(02:49:10) (ron) you know what i've been looking for, is the Edgar Cayce dscription, or personification of death...do any of you remember reading it?.
(02:49:22) (diane) or EC's Advice to Forlorn People
(02:49:44) (ron) that jovial, smilling character i think was wearing diapers and sissors in hand
(02:50:14) (true_eagle_mike) ec was ready.. his time had come an he wanted it !
(02:50:18) (ron) and not that famous old Grim Reaper
(02:50:35) (Blu) I have something to confess to the group
(02:50:41) (true_eagle_mike) k
(02:50:42) (Blu) I have a fault to confess
(02:50:45) (WalksInSpirit) See, this is what I know... people are the only things that last forever. And what we do to help (or hurt) another directly impacts their eternity. What an opporunity we have here to do God's work! Even the Angels don't have the opportunity we have to do that!
(02:50:53) (true_eagle_mike) well we all hav them
(02:51:01) (diane) ok Blu
(02:51:09) (Blu) A few years ago there was this girl at work, she was a cashier. When I would see her I would think, what an odd little woman. She did not try to look pretty, was very sad and miserable looking.
(02:51:14) (ron) that really sonds nice WIS,,,yes
(02:51:30) (Blu) Wore these really funky glasses and I could just feel the need poor out of her. I avoided her because I knew she had some big issues and I just did not want to get involved.
(02:51:42) (Blu) One day I walked into the break room and she had her back to the door and sat as far away from it facing the wall as she could get. she was reading a book and I just paused and looked at her.
(02:51:56) (Blu) something in me told me to speak to her and say something nice. But I didn't, I just did not feel like it. so I turned around and walked out.
(02:52:02) (true_eagle_mike) facits of life blu.. an we come to terms .. with them . all apart of learning
(02:52:16) (Blu) The next day I heard she had gone home and committed suicide. God forgive me I know I could have done something to prevent that.
(02:52:39) (Blu) Edgar is right, you never know when a kind word, a smile will change a persons life
(02:52:41) (diane) that was unusual!
(02:53:04) (Blu) all it would have taken was for me to not be such a selfish cow and she might still be alive today
(02:53:20) (diane) those things rarely happen, Blu. That was a dramatic happening
(02:53:36) (ron) yes, i would feel guilty as well
(02:53:38) (Blu) That is just it Diane, we never know