Post by WalksInSpirit on Oct 29, 2007 21:22:15 GMT -5
No Soul Left Behind: 10-29-07
(09:20:13) (@autogreeter) Good Evening. The Red Path Chat Room welcomes you to No Soul Left Behind Study, Hosted By GG (Lory).
(09:24:07) (@host-GG) Q: What motivated Jesus to do what He did?
(09:24:36) (@host-GG) A: "As man found himself out of touch with that complete consciousness of the oneness of God, it became necessary that the will of God, the Father, be made manifested, that a pattern [for humankind] be introduced into, man's consciousness. Thus the Son of Man came into the earth, made in the form, the likeness of man; with body, mind, soul. Yet the soul was the Son, the soul was the Light."
(09:25:10) (@host-GG) "The individual entity, then, finds ~~ as it applies that ideal, that life in its experience ~~ a perfect pattern for itself if it will accept it as such; whether as a physical attribute, a mental attribute, or a spiritual attribute. In the acceptance there may be the activity of spirit, activity of soul, activity of the mind, activity of the body."
(09:26:08) (@host-GG) "There is as much reason to dwell upon the thought from whence the soul came, as it is upon whence the soul goes. For, if the soul is eternal, it always has been ~~ if it is always to be. And that is the basis, or the thoughts of [the] Creative Forces, or God; He ever was, He ever will be."
(09:26:46) (@host-GG) "And individuals, as His children, are a part of that consciousness. And it is for that purpose that He [Jesus] came into the earth; that we, as soul-entities, might know ourselves to be ourselves and yet one with Him; as He, the Master, the Christ, knew Himself to be Himself and yet one with the Father." 3001-1
(09:27:17) (@host-GG) Q: What would be a Christ-like attitude?
(09:28:05) (@host-GG) A: "If the entity will read or study or analyze how the Master treated children, young people, during His ministry in the earth, it will be seen how often He used children, the young people, as the hope of the world, as to how unless each individual puts away those selfish desires which arise and becomes as little children, one may never quite understand the simplicity of Christ's faith; Christ-like faith, Christ-like helpfulness to others."
(09:29:15) (@host-GG) "In the present, analyze these; and aid in ministering such to the young as a teacher, as an interpreter, as a helper for those of the young who seek to know, to interpret, to apply such in their experience. Yes, even learn how to interpret to children how an individual may pass the collection plate in church on Sunday and swear like a sailor on Monday. Both are of God, one in the right direction, one in the opposite." 1223-9
(09:30:16) (@host-GG) Q: What is God's will and how do we do it?
(09:30:47) (@host-GG) A: "Thou shalt love the Lord with all your heart, your mind, your body ~~ and your neighbor as yourself." This is the whole law ~~ the spiritual law, the mental law, the material law, And as you apply same, thus you become the law! For as He, your Master, your Lord, your Christ fulfilled the law by compliance with same. He became the law and thus your Savior, your Brother, your Christ!"
(09:31:25) (@host-GG) "Thus as He may act through you in your physical, mental preparation of your body ~~ which has been and is lent, to you , yourself, your entity, your soul ~~ you may be the channel. For as He gave. "Inasmuch as ye do it unto the least of these, my children, ye do it unto me." 1662-1
(09:31:54) (@host-GG) Q: How do we know we are being faithful to His will?
(09:32:36) (@host-GG) A: "First, patience, love, long-suffering, gentleness, kindness; speaking not of anyone in a resenting manner. For know, as He hath given, all power that is in the influence of an individual, a nation, a country, is only lent of the Lord as an opportunity for the individual according to that it has once purposed ~~
(09:33:03) (@host-GG) ~~ or to carry forward what He has willed respecting each soul! For you know, you understand, all stand as one before Him. There are no ones above another; only those that do His will." 1662-1
(09:33:43) (@host-GG) "Then often in your spiritual meditation, enter into the holy of holies [in prayer or meditation, for example] with Him, for there He hath promised to meet you. For "if we will open the door, I will enter and sup with thee".
(09:34:15) (@host-GG) Isn't that a wonder promise?
(09:34:49) (@host-GG) This is your promise, this is yours ~~ "that ye may be glorified in me", He said, "as I may be glorified in the Father". And thus is the love of the Father for His children, fulfilled in your activity.
(09:35:26) (@host-GG) "These do not become then theory ~~ they do not become speculative; but as you do them, so is it measured to you again. For greater love has no man than that he lay down his own self for those that he loves."
(09:35:58) (@host-GG) "And that alone that you give, have given ~~ of your body, your mind, your strength ~~ do you possess. Just as He ~~ as your Guide, your Guard, your hope ~~ has given Himself; so are you His."
(09:36:29) (@host-GG) "So as you expend your body, your mind, your purposes, your desires, to bring to others the consciousness of His abiding presence, so may you know His peace, so it may be yours as you accept, as you use, as you apply same in your relationships to your fellow man day by day." 1662-1
(09:36:59) (@host-GG) Q: If we make mistakes, as we all do in attempting to follow God's will, are we in danger of suffering some terrible fate, as many Christians appear to believe?
(09:37:35) (@host-GG) A: "For as He has given, God has not willed that any soul should perish but has with every temptation prepared a way, a manner through which the knowledge of His love, of His promises, may come to the consciousness of His children . . . And His blessings, His promises will abide with you as you abide in His love day by day!"
(09:38:09) (@host-GG) "It is not, then, any great influence or force that may be set as to cause the welkin to ring. It is not with the sound of trumpet, nor with the shouting ~~ but rather the still small voice within that brings the assurance to you that you are His and He is yours." 1662-1
(09:38:31) (@host-GG) Q: Why is it so important to God for us to keep the faith?
(09:38:57) (@host-GG) A: "So may He ~~ in your work, in your prayer, in your meditation, in your treatment of your fellow men day by day ~~ become manifest in their lives. For He increases in power, in might, as you pour Him out in your love for your fellow man by practicing, daily, the fruits of the spirit!"
(09:39:35) (@host-GG) "Then not of yourself but that His power of the Christ, working in and through you, may bring not only health but peace ~~ and such peace as He promised; not as the world knows peace but as only those who walk and talk often with their God!" 1662-1
(09:40:18) (@host-GG) Any questions or comments?
(09:40:19) (merri) do the terrorists hear God talking?
(09:40:40) (@host-GG) If they do, surely they do not obey Him.
(09:40:44) (@rons) They only hear themselves...
(09:41:10) (merri) if they do, they seem to hear differently
(09:41:36) (@host-GG) Q: Many people may feel ill-suited to serve as God's representatives, in effect.
(09:41:36) (merri) how do we correlate all this with those who want to kill us?
(09:41:47) (@cris7) They are making choices to extend their karma
(09:42:03) (@blubearwoman) I recommend spending time in payer for them to gain that understanding Merri
(09:42:27) (@host-GG) Gosh, Merri, if we knew that answer wouldn't it be wonderful?
(09:42:39) (merri) they pray 5 times a day Blu
(09:42:57) (@blubearwoman) I know that on a smaller scale there have been times I thought I was doing God's will, then after spending time in prayer and meditation I saw the difference.
(09:42:59) (merri) and this killing is their answer
(09:43:14) (@rons) For one thing, they are lacking inner peace...
(09:43:37) (@host-GG) Do you not feel that they are being influenced by evil spirits, Merri?
(09:43:40) (@blubearwoman) I believe that they pray to Mecca and probably a "wrote prayer" , not from the heart
(09:44:16) (merri) could be Lory
(09:44:25) (@rons) Like what was mentioned above...go to church on Sunday, and cuss like a sailor on Monday...
(09:44:31) (@blubearwoman) Just as there are true Muslims and untrue Muslims, there are true Christians and untrue Christians
(09:44:35) (@cris7) In some ways they are products of their upbringing and religion
(09:44:53) (merri) I think in many ways Cris
(09:45:04) (merri) but we still have to deal with it
(09:45:05) (@cris7) Praying for them to find the source could be positive
(09:45:12) (@host-GG) Just like the Christians have different views, too, Cris.
(09:45:33) (merri) they want to take over the world
(09:45:39) (merri) what then?
(09:45:46) (@cris7) When it is all you know you accept your lifestyle as the norm
(09:45:47) (@rons) I guess I even enjoy my Mondays...as well
(09:45:51) (@blubearwoman) and easy example of how an extreme faction happens, some "Christians take being "pure of body" as meaning not to have interracial marriage. An example of how one can mess up the scriptures.
(09:45:53) (@host-GG) Chaos
(09:46:10) (@cris7) Education is one answer
(09:46:45) (merri) but they consider us infidels Cris
(09:46:53) (@cris7) You find that violence is not an answer
(09:47:01) (merri) and they don't listen to infidels!
(09:47:01) (@host-GG) To finish this chapter, there are only a few paragraphs left, OK?
(09:47:04) (@cris7) Right now they do but I think that can change
(09:47:27) (@rons) Continued violence just raises more swords against them...
(09:47:48) (merri) violence continues the cycle
(09:47:50) (@host-GG) Q: Many people may feel ill-suited to serve as God's representatives, in effect.
(09:48:24) (@host-GG) A: "Well-equipped you may be; putting on then the whole armor of love, of faith, of hope, of charity. Thus may you not fill that place, that purpose for which you came into the experience in this earth."
(09:48:27) (@blubearwoman) We have numerous promises from God that if we obey Him then he will rebuke the devourer*
(09:49:10) (@host-GG) "Let love, then, be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is Evil. Cleave to that which Good ~~ even as He. For He looked not upon men because of their estate but rather,who is my brother? Who is my mother, my father? They that do the will of the Father, the same is my mother, my brother, my sister."
(09:49:38) (@host-GG) "So as you manifest in your dealings with your fellow man the fruits of the Spirit, thus do you become physically, mentally, spiritually equipped for the kingdom of righteousness ~~ which must be within!" 1662-1
(09:50:04) (@host-GG) Q: Our age today seems much more complicated and more threatening than those simpler times in which Jesus lived.
(09:50:38) (@host-GG) A: "Complex problems arise in the experience of each individual entity . . . Are the activities, the relations, ever directed by the spirit of the Pattern [Jesus] that is given to man? That should ever be the question. And the answer can only be as has been given." "My spirit beareth witness with your spirit."
(09:51:25) (@host-GG) I wonder if the people who lived then felt the same way that this question seemed to intimate?
(09:51:29) (@blubearwoman) I love when that happens
(09:51:48) (@blubearwoman) intimate?
(09:52:28) (@host-GG) "Then, when there are those experiences in the life of an entity in the material plane, when expression is given to that which is the prompting or directing influence in the life of an individual entity, it is ever those that draw nearer to the universal consciousness of the Christ that come close to the perfect
(09:52:39) (@blubearwoman) You know I think Saul on the road to Tarsus is a great example of a man doing what he thinks is God's will, then God correcting him Merri
(09:52:41) (@host-GG) Did I use the wrong word?
(09:52:55) (@rons) Didn't Rome rule the whole world during that time?...and Rome was a hard taskmaster...
(09:53:10) (@rons) taskmonster
(09:53:15) (@blubearwoman) I just wondered what you meant by intimate Lory
(09:53:32) (merri) do you think He will be correcting the Muslims, Blu?
(09:53:46) (@host-GG) to suggest? intimate?
(09:54:00) (@blubearwoman) I think if there are people who truly love God and they are truly praying to Him, then yes he will change their path
(09:54:16) (@blubearwoman) ok, got you Lory
(09:54:54) (merri) well I sure hope He does before they are knocking on our door!
(09:55:05) (@host-GG) relationship to the Creative Forces or God, the Father ~~ which the man Jesus attained when He gave of Himself to the world, that through Him, by and in Him, each entity might come to know the true relationship with the Father. Thus is the ideal set.
(09:55:29) (@cris7) I think our prayers and seeing that area of the world in God's light will help too
(09:55:31) (@host-GG) Thus should be the prompting of each entity. As to how beautiful this has been and is accomplished oft in the experience of the entity, may not be stressed too much. Yet there is oft within the entity's own consciousness that wonderment as to whether correct choices have been made in dealing with others.
(09:55:48) (@host-GG) Thus should be the prompting of each entity. As to how beautiful this has been and is accomplished oft in the experience of the entity, may not be stressed too much. Yet there is oft within the entity's own consciousness that wonderment as to whether correct choices have been made in dealing with others.
(09:55:59) (@host-GG) Oh OH
(09:56:26) (@host-GG) "At such times, then, look deep into the life of the man Jesus and see how He dealt with the problems of the day. As He gave, in the interpretation of His purpose in the earth. He recognized the needs of each soul as to its purpose in the earth also."
(09:57:04) (@rons) I needed that...:)
(09:57:36) (@host-GG) Q: Jesus said He would come again. When do you expect His second coming?
(09:57:54) (@host-GG) Everyone waiting for this reply?
(09:57:59) (@blubearwoman) LOL
(09:58:21) (@host-GG) A: "The time no one knows. Even as He gave, not even the Son Himself. Only the Father. Not until His enemies ~~ and the earth ~~ are wholly in subjection to His will, His powers" 5749-2
(09:58:30) (@host-GG) Oh Darn..
(09:58:48) (@blubearwoman) looks like it will be a while huh?
(09:58:56) (merri) not likely in our lifetime
(09:58:58) (@host-GG) Q: How do you advise those who wish to get ready for the second coming of Jesus?
(09:59:21) (mael) who are His enemies?
(09:59:39) (@blubearwoman) those who do not do His Will
(09:59:58) (@host-GG) A: "In that you seek to know the manner of preparation of Him that would be your guide, seek also to prepare yourselves to be His subjects with that same diligence as that which has prompted the seeking here." 5749-2
(10:00:26) (@host-GG) "For there is the continual warring within the individual in every activity as to what it should have done and what it has done about creative energies or the God force in its experience." 1152-1
(10:00:52) (@host-GG) "Yet love manifested, peace exhibited within self, harmony brought by loving associations, makes for opportunities in the physical forces of the life to see demonstrated that which is the basis, the cause, the reason that is the
(10:01:15) (@host-GG) purpose for man's advent, for this entity's advent into materiality; that the love of the Father for His creatures, for His own, may be made manifest in and among those."
(10:01:49) (@host-GG) "For He has given. God has not willed that any soul should perish but has with every temptation prepared a way, a manner of escape for those that will be His own."
(10:02:14) (@host-GG) "And as He has given, the will to be, the will to make for manifestations of His force and power and love and might has been His gift. So man has the choice. As it is said, there is set before ~~ before each soul today ~~ Good and Evil, life and death. Choose thou." 1152-1
(10:02:21) (@blubearwoman) Praise God
(10:02:38) (gilly) ditto
(10:02:40) (gilly) :-)
(10:03:05) (@host-GG) Q: It's usually meant as a compliment when someone is described as "God-fearing". But Jesus would have us believe that God is loving. Should we fear God?
(10:03:29) (@host-GG) A: "Fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom. Not that fear of disappointment, of contention, of strife, of fault . . . If you were condemned by the Christ-consciousness, where would your mind, your thoughts, be? For even as He when they spat upon Him, when they condemned Him, He said not a word;
(10:04:09) (@rons) 'they know not what they do
(10:04:10) (@host-GG) word; that you might know in His example, in His experience, that you, too, would know suffering, but have a balm in Him, that you, too would know disappointment, but have in Him the fulfilling of all your whishes, all your desires;
(10:04:37) (@host-GG) you, too, would have pain, but in Him have strength and power and might; you, too, would know suffering in body, suffering in mind, but in Him would have strength!"
(10:05:16) (@host-GG) "The Wisdom then of the Lord thy God is shown you, is exemplified to you, is patterned for you in the life of Jesus of Nazareth, Jesus the Christ! For He indeed is your wisdom is wisdom indeed!"
(10:05:38) (@host-GG) "How gave He? 'If thy brother smite thee, turn the other cheek. If thy brother seeketh or taketh away thy coat, give him the other also. If he forceth thee to go one mile, go with him twain.'"
(10:06:06) (@host-GG) "Are these but sayings? Are these but things not understood? Do you say in your heart and your mind, 'Yes, but He was the Son of the Father and thus had the strength that is not in me?'"
(10:06:30) (@host-GG) But you are foolish! For not only are you sons and daughters of the Father but have the strength in the promises of Him who is Life and Light and the Way and The Water and the Understanding! Then the practical supplication of the Christ-like in your daily experience is Wisdom indeed.
(10:07:01) (@host-GG) "This then is not a thing afar off. Not that you would say as of old, who will bring down from Heaven a message that we may know Wisdom, or who will come from over the sea that we may hear and understand;
(10:07:23) (@host-GG) for Lo, it is your own hear; it is within your own power, yes within your own might! It is the application of what you know to do in the light of the Pattern as set in the Christ. That is Applies Wisdom!" 262-104
(10:07:49) (@host-GG) Q: If Jesus the Christ is the pattern that we are to follow, how can we gain the power to act as He did?
(10:08:12) (@host-GG) A: "You are chosen, you are sufficient ~~ if you will but apply what you know. For as you apply day by day what you know, then is the next step, the next act, the next experience shown you.
(10:08:42) (@host-GG) Because you have then failed here or there, do not say, "Oh, I cannot ~~ I am weak". To be sure you are weak in self, but O you of little faith! For He is your strength! That is Wisdom!
(10:09:07) (@host-GG) "Let no one then again ever say 'I cannot'. It's rather, if you do, saying 'I will not ~~ I want my way'. This is foolishness; and you know the Way. For He is Strength. He is Love. He is Patience, He is Knowledge. He is Wisdom.
(10:09:32) (@host-GG) Claim all of these then, in Him! For He is in you, and the Father has not desired that any soul should perish but has prepared a way of escape; a way of love, of peace, of harmony for every soul ~~ if you will but claim same, live same, in Him". 262-104
(10:10:12) (@host-GG) (Footnote: I've read that as a boy you hoped to become a minister but were unable to continue your schooling needed to qualify for the ministry. But hearing your explanation of the significance of Jesus makes me think you achieved your ambition after all.)
(10:11:17) (@host-GG) This finishes Chapter XI. Next week we start Chapter XII "Good Can Overcome Evil".
(10:11:29) (@blubearwoman) Good one Lory!
(10:11:39) (merri) that should be interesting
(10:11:41) (@blubearwoman) Thank you
(10:11:43) (@host-GG) Thank you for coming everyone.
(10:11:44) (mael) wonderful thank you GG
(10:12:27) (@walksinspirit) This was great, Grandmother! Thank you so much!!!
(10:12:36) (@cris7) Thanks Lory
(10:12:46) (@cris7) This is wonderful material
(10:13:38) (@host-GG) I agree with you Cris. I guess you can't do much better than actually quote Cayce's words verbatim.
(10:13:49) (@blubearwoman) Merri your questions still have my attention
(10:13:51) (@rons) Very good Lory...
(10:14:17) (merri) just some thoughts, Blu
(10:14:28) (@host-GG) Next weeks Good Can Overcome Evil should help with one or two of her questions Blu.
(10:14:45) (@blubearwoman) cool
(10:15:24) (merri) it's easy to think of applying these concepts when one is sitting at home safe & snug
(10:15:26) (gilly) thank you lory
(10:15:50) (@host-GG) One of the last chapters is A Path to Peace, and should be helpful as well.
(10:16:10) (@host-GG) Your welcome, gilly. So good to see you.
(10:16:14) (@blubearwoman) Well Merri, as it happens we are not all that safe as 911 showed us
(10:16:38) (merri) exactly and it will come closer
(10:16:42) (@blubearwoman) I try to apply in my own little sphere, it makes the bigger concepts easier to handle
(10:16:58) (@cris7) We can all use the path to peace
(10:17:09) (@blubearwoman) may come closer
(10:18:07) (@blubearwoman) the magic and perfection of the plan of God to send Jesus, who then sent out the 12 is a masterful piece of a perfect plan, it will work
(10:18:15) (merri) I've been reading books to try to understand the Muslim way of thinking
(10:18:18) (@host-GG) It seems to have eased a bit. I certainly pray this is an omen of seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.
(10:19:07) (merri) they have a deep, ingrained history of power and killing anyone who gets in their way
(10:19:21) (@blubearwoman) so do we if you think about it
(10:19:25) (@blubearwoman) ask WIS
(10:19:27) (@host-GG) And they teach it to their children, generation to generation.
(10:19:34) (@cris7) That can be changed with prayer
(10:19:52) (@cris7) People are tired of killings and they are looking for a way to have peace
(10:20:00) (@blubearwoman) yes, prayer works miracles
(10:20:10) (@rons) Looking back to the father of the Arabs, Ishmael. Cause of Sarahs impatience, we have the emotional arab. Shoot first, talk later...
(10:20:15) (@cris7) In news interviews the common people say they want change
(10:20:26) (merri) some are Cris, but unfortunately many are not
(10:20:45) (@blubearwoman) change must come one person at a time
(10:20:50) (@cris7) The desire is there maybe the next generation will make it a reality
(10:21:23) (merri) that sums it up good, ron!!
(10:21:29) (@blubearwoman) that is why when you speak to another soul about anything, it is vitally important. Because you are the doorway to the Christ
(10:21:37) (@host-GG) And goodnight everyone. Sweet Dreams. LOVE to all.
(10:21:46) (gilly) nite
(10:21:47) (@cris7) Blessings Lory
(10:21:50) (merri) Blessings Lory
(10:21:56) (gilly) it was good
(10:21:56) (@blubearwoman) Blessings Lory
(10:22:03) (@walksinspirit) Night Blessings Grandmother! Love you! Thank you!
(10:22:04) (gilly) good to see you all
(09:24:07) (@host-GG) Q: What motivated Jesus to do what He did?
(09:24:36) (@host-GG) A: "As man found himself out of touch with that complete consciousness of the oneness of God, it became necessary that the will of God, the Father, be made manifested, that a pattern [for humankind] be introduced into, man's consciousness. Thus the Son of Man came into the earth, made in the form, the likeness of man; with body, mind, soul. Yet the soul was the Son, the soul was the Light."
(09:25:10) (@host-GG) "The individual entity, then, finds ~~ as it applies that ideal, that life in its experience ~~ a perfect pattern for itself if it will accept it as such; whether as a physical attribute, a mental attribute, or a spiritual attribute. In the acceptance there may be the activity of spirit, activity of soul, activity of the mind, activity of the body."
(09:26:08) (@host-GG) "There is as much reason to dwell upon the thought from whence the soul came, as it is upon whence the soul goes. For, if the soul is eternal, it always has been ~~ if it is always to be. And that is the basis, or the thoughts of [the] Creative Forces, or God; He ever was, He ever will be."
(09:26:46) (@host-GG) "And individuals, as His children, are a part of that consciousness. And it is for that purpose that He [Jesus] came into the earth; that we, as soul-entities, might know ourselves to be ourselves and yet one with Him; as He, the Master, the Christ, knew Himself to be Himself and yet one with the Father." 3001-1
(09:27:17) (@host-GG) Q: What would be a Christ-like attitude?
(09:28:05) (@host-GG) A: "If the entity will read or study or analyze how the Master treated children, young people, during His ministry in the earth, it will be seen how often He used children, the young people, as the hope of the world, as to how unless each individual puts away those selfish desires which arise and becomes as little children, one may never quite understand the simplicity of Christ's faith; Christ-like faith, Christ-like helpfulness to others."
(09:29:15) (@host-GG) "In the present, analyze these; and aid in ministering such to the young as a teacher, as an interpreter, as a helper for those of the young who seek to know, to interpret, to apply such in their experience. Yes, even learn how to interpret to children how an individual may pass the collection plate in church on Sunday and swear like a sailor on Monday. Both are of God, one in the right direction, one in the opposite." 1223-9
(09:30:16) (@host-GG) Q: What is God's will and how do we do it?
(09:30:47) (@host-GG) A: "Thou shalt love the Lord with all your heart, your mind, your body ~~ and your neighbor as yourself." This is the whole law ~~ the spiritual law, the mental law, the material law, And as you apply same, thus you become the law! For as He, your Master, your Lord, your Christ fulfilled the law by compliance with same. He became the law and thus your Savior, your Brother, your Christ!"
(09:31:25) (@host-GG) "Thus as He may act through you in your physical, mental preparation of your body ~~ which has been and is lent, to you , yourself, your entity, your soul ~~ you may be the channel. For as He gave. "Inasmuch as ye do it unto the least of these, my children, ye do it unto me." 1662-1
(09:31:54) (@host-GG) Q: How do we know we are being faithful to His will?
(09:32:36) (@host-GG) A: "First, patience, love, long-suffering, gentleness, kindness; speaking not of anyone in a resenting manner. For know, as He hath given, all power that is in the influence of an individual, a nation, a country, is only lent of the Lord as an opportunity for the individual according to that it has once purposed ~~
(09:33:03) (@host-GG) ~~ or to carry forward what He has willed respecting each soul! For you know, you understand, all stand as one before Him. There are no ones above another; only those that do His will." 1662-1
(09:33:43) (@host-GG) "Then often in your spiritual meditation, enter into the holy of holies [in prayer or meditation, for example] with Him, for there He hath promised to meet you. For "if we will open the door, I will enter and sup with thee".
(09:34:15) (@host-GG) Isn't that a wonder promise?
(09:34:49) (@host-GG) This is your promise, this is yours ~~ "that ye may be glorified in me", He said, "as I may be glorified in the Father". And thus is the love of the Father for His children, fulfilled in your activity.
(09:35:26) (@host-GG) "These do not become then theory ~~ they do not become speculative; but as you do them, so is it measured to you again. For greater love has no man than that he lay down his own self for those that he loves."
(09:35:58) (@host-GG) "And that alone that you give, have given ~~ of your body, your mind, your strength ~~ do you possess. Just as He ~~ as your Guide, your Guard, your hope ~~ has given Himself; so are you His."
(09:36:29) (@host-GG) "So as you expend your body, your mind, your purposes, your desires, to bring to others the consciousness of His abiding presence, so may you know His peace, so it may be yours as you accept, as you use, as you apply same in your relationships to your fellow man day by day." 1662-1
(09:36:59) (@host-GG) Q: If we make mistakes, as we all do in attempting to follow God's will, are we in danger of suffering some terrible fate, as many Christians appear to believe?
(09:37:35) (@host-GG) A: "For as He has given, God has not willed that any soul should perish but has with every temptation prepared a way, a manner through which the knowledge of His love, of His promises, may come to the consciousness of His children . . . And His blessings, His promises will abide with you as you abide in His love day by day!"
(09:38:09) (@host-GG) "It is not, then, any great influence or force that may be set as to cause the welkin to ring. It is not with the sound of trumpet, nor with the shouting ~~ but rather the still small voice within that brings the assurance to you that you are His and He is yours." 1662-1
(09:38:31) (@host-GG) Q: Why is it so important to God for us to keep the faith?
(09:38:57) (@host-GG) A: "So may He ~~ in your work, in your prayer, in your meditation, in your treatment of your fellow men day by day ~~ become manifest in their lives. For He increases in power, in might, as you pour Him out in your love for your fellow man by practicing, daily, the fruits of the spirit!"
(09:39:35) (@host-GG) "Then not of yourself but that His power of the Christ, working in and through you, may bring not only health but peace ~~ and such peace as He promised; not as the world knows peace but as only those who walk and talk often with their God!" 1662-1
(09:40:18) (@host-GG) Any questions or comments?
(09:40:19) (merri) do the terrorists hear God talking?
(09:40:40) (@host-GG) If they do, surely they do not obey Him.
(09:40:44) (@rons) They only hear themselves...
(09:41:10) (merri) if they do, they seem to hear differently
(09:41:36) (@host-GG) Q: Many people may feel ill-suited to serve as God's representatives, in effect.
(09:41:36) (merri) how do we correlate all this with those who want to kill us?
(09:41:47) (@cris7) They are making choices to extend their karma
(09:42:03) (@blubearwoman) I recommend spending time in payer for them to gain that understanding Merri
(09:42:27) (@host-GG) Gosh, Merri, if we knew that answer wouldn't it be wonderful?
(09:42:39) (merri) they pray 5 times a day Blu
(09:42:57) (@blubearwoman) I know that on a smaller scale there have been times I thought I was doing God's will, then after spending time in prayer and meditation I saw the difference.
(09:42:59) (merri) and this killing is their answer
(09:43:14) (@rons) For one thing, they are lacking inner peace...
(09:43:37) (@host-GG) Do you not feel that they are being influenced by evil spirits, Merri?
(09:43:40) (@blubearwoman) I believe that they pray to Mecca and probably a "wrote prayer" , not from the heart
(09:44:16) (merri) could be Lory
(09:44:25) (@rons) Like what was mentioned above...go to church on Sunday, and cuss like a sailor on Monday...
(09:44:31) (@blubearwoman) Just as there are true Muslims and untrue Muslims, there are true Christians and untrue Christians
(09:44:35) (@cris7) In some ways they are products of their upbringing and religion
(09:44:53) (merri) I think in many ways Cris
(09:45:04) (merri) but we still have to deal with it
(09:45:05) (@cris7) Praying for them to find the source could be positive
(09:45:12) (@host-GG) Just like the Christians have different views, too, Cris.
(09:45:33) (merri) they want to take over the world
(09:45:39) (merri) what then?
(09:45:46) (@cris7) When it is all you know you accept your lifestyle as the norm
(09:45:47) (@rons) I guess I even enjoy my Mondays...as well
(09:45:51) (@blubearwoman) and easy example of how an extreme faction happens, some "Christians take being "pure of body" as meaning not to have interracial marriage. An example of how one can mess up the scriptures.
(09:45:53) (@host-GG) Chaos
(09:46:10) (@cris7) Education is one answer
(09:46:45) (merri) but they consider us infidels Cris
(09:46:53) (@cris7) You find that violence is not an answer
(09:47:01) (merri) and they don't listen to infidels!
(09:47:01) (@host-GG) To finish this chapter, there are only a few paragraphs left, OK?
(09:47:04) (@cris7) Right now they do but I think that can change
(09:47:27) (@rons) Continued violence just raises more swords against them...
(09:47:48) (merri) violence continues the cycle
(09:47:50) (@host-GG) Q: Many people may feel ill-suited to serve as God's representatives, in effect.
(09:48:24) (@host-GG) A: "Well-equipped you may be; putting on then the whole armor of love, of faith, of hope, of charity. Thus may you not fill that place, that purpose for which you came into the experience in this earth."
(09:48:27) (@blubearwoman) We have numerous promises from God that if we obey Him then he will rebuke the devourer*
(09:49:10) (@host-GG) "Let love, then, be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is Evil. Cleave to that which Good ~~ even as He. For He looked not upon men because of their estate but rather,who is my brother? Who is my mother, my father? They that do the will of the Father, the same is my mother, my brother, my sister."
(09:49:38) (@host-GG) "So as you manifest in your dealings with your fellow man the fruits of the Spirit, thus do you become physically, mentally, spiritually equipped for the kingdom of righteousness ~~ which must be within!" 1662-1
(09:50:04) (@host-GG) Q: Our age today seems much more complicated and more threatening than those simpler times in which Jesus lived.
(09:50:38) (@host-GG) A: "Complex problems arise in the experience of each individual entity . . . Are the activities, the relations, ever directed by the spirit of the Pattern [Jesus] that is given to man? That should ever be the question. And the answer can only be as has been given." "My spirit beareth witness with your spirit."
(09:51:25) (@host-GG) I wonder if the people who lived then felt the same way that this question seemed to intimate?
(09:51:29) (@blubearwoman) I love when that happens
(09:51:48) (@blubearwoman) intimate?
(09:52:28) (@host-GG) "Then, when there are those experiences in the life of an entity in the material plane, when expression is given to that which is the prompting or directing influence in the life of an individual entity, it is ever those that draw nearer to the universal consciousness of the Christ that come close to the perfect
(09:52:39) (@blubearwoman) You know I think Saul on the road to Tarsus is a great example of a man doing what he thinks is God's will, then God correcting him Merri
(09:52:41) (@host-GG) Did I use the wrong word?
(09:52:55) (@rons) Didn't Rome rule the whole world during that time?...and Rome was a hard taskmaster...
(09:53:10) (@rons) taskmonster
(09:53:15) (@blubearwoman) I just wondered what you meant by intimate Lory
(09:53:32) (merri) do you think He will be correcting the Muslims, Blu?
(09:53:46) (@host-GG) to suggest? intimate?
(09:54:00) (@blubearwoman) I think if there are people who truly love God and they are truly praying to Him, then yes he will change their path
(09:54:16) (@blubearwoman) ok, got you Lory
(09:54:54) (merri) well I sure hope He does before they are knocking on our door!
(09:55:05) (@host-GG) relationship to the Creative Forces or God, the Father ~~ which the man Jesus attained when He gave of Himself to the world, that through Him, by and in Him, each entity might come to know the true relationship with the Father. Thus is the ideal set.
(09:55:29) (@cris7) I think our prayers and seeing that area of the world in God's light will help too
(09:55:31) (@host-GG) Thus should be the prompting of each entity. As to how beautiful this has been and is accomplished oft in the experience of the entity, may not be stressed too much. Yet there is oft within the entity's own consciousness that wonderment as to whether correct choices have been made in dealing with others.
(09:55:48) (@host-GG) Thus should be the prompting of each entity. As to how beautiful this has been and is accomplished oft in the experience of the entity, may not be stressed too much. Yet there is oft within the entity's own consciousness that wonderment as to whether correct choices have been made in dealing with others.
(09:55:59) (@host-GG) Oh OH
(09:56:26) (@host-GG) "At such times, then, look deep into the life of the man Jesus and see how He dealt with the problems of the day. As He gave, in the interpretation of His purpose in the earth. He recognized the needs of each soul as to its purpose in the earth also."
(09:57:04) (@rons) I needed that...:)
(09:57:36) (@host-GG) Q: Jesus said He would come again. When do you expect His second coming?
(09:57:54) (@host-GG) Everyone waiting for this reply?
(09:57:59) (@blubearwoman) LOL
(09:58:21) (@host-GG) A: "The time no one knows. Even as He gave, not even the Son Himself. Only the Father. Not until His enemies ~~ and the earth ~~ are wholly in subjection to His will, His powers" 5749-2
(09:58:30) (@host-GG) Oh Darn..
(09:58:48) (@blubearwoman) looks like it will be a while huh?
(09:58:56) (merri) not likely in our lifetime
(09:58:58) (@host-GG) Q: How do you advise those who wish to get ready for the second coming of Jesus?
(09:59:21) (mael) who are His enemies?
(09:59:39) (@blubearwoman) those who do not do His Will
(09:59:58) (@host-GG) A: "In that you seek to know the manner of preparation of Him that would be your guide, seek also to prepare yourselves to be His subjects with that same diligence as that which has prompted the seeking here." 5749-2
(10:00:26) (@host-GG) "For there is the continual warring within the individual in every activity as to what it should have done and what it has done about creative energies or the God force in its experience." 1152-1
(10:00:52) (@host-GG) "Yet love manifested, peace exhibited within self, harmony brought by loving associations, makes for opportunities in the physical forces of the life to see demonstrated that which is the basis, the cause, the reason that is the
(10:01:15) (@host-GG) purpose for man's advent, for this entity's advent into materiality; that the love of the Father for His creatures, for His own, may be made manifest in and among those."
(10:01:49) (@host-GG) "For He has given. God has not willed that any soul should perish but has with every temptation prepared a way, a manner of escape for those that will be His own."
(10:02:14) (@host-GG) "And as He has given, the will to be, the will to make for manifestations of His force and power and love and might has been His gift. So man has the choice. As it is said, there is set before ~~ before each soul today ~~ Good and Evil, life and death. Choose thou." 1152-1
(10:02:21) (@blubearwoman) Praise God
(10:02:38) (gilly) ditto
(10:02:40) (gilly) :-)
(10:03:05) (@host-GG) Q: It's usually meant as a compliment when someone is described as "God-fearing". But Jesus would have us believe that God is loving. Should we fear God?
(10:03:29) (@host-GG) A: "Fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom. Not that fear of disappointment, of contention, of strife, of fault . . . If you were condemned by the Christ-consciousness, where would your mind, your thoughts, be? For even as He when they spat upon Him, when they condemned Him, He said not a word;
(10:04:09) (@rons) 'they know not what they do
(10:04:10) (@host-GG) word; that you might know in His example, in His experience, that you, too, would know suffering, but have a balm in Him, that you, too would know disappointment, but have in Him the fulfilling of all your whishes, all your desires;
(10:04:37) (@host-GG) you, too, would have pain, but in Him have strength and power and might; you, too, would know suffering in body, suffering in mind, but in Him would have strength!"
(10:05:16) (@host-GG) "The Wisdom then of the Lord thy God is shown you, is exemplified to you, is patterned for you in the life of Jesus of Nazareth, Jesus the Christ! For He indeed is your wisdom is wisdom indeed!"
(10:05:38) (@host-GG) "How gave He? 'If thy brother smite thee, turn the other cheek. If thy brother seeketh or taketh away thy coat, give him the other also. If he forceth thee to go one mile, go with him twain.'"
(10:06:06) (@host-GG) "Are these but sayings? Are these but things not understood? Do you say in your heart and your mind, 'Yes, but He was the Son of the Father and thus had the strength that is not in me?'"
(10:06:30) (@host-GG) But you are foolish! For not only are you sons and daughters of the Father but have the strength in the promises of Him who is Life and Light and the Way and The Water and the Understanding! Then the practical supplication of the Christ-like in your daily experience is Wisdom indeed.
(10:07:01) (@host-GG) "This then is not a thing afar off. Not that you would say as of old, who will bring down from Heaven a message that we may know Wisdom, or who will come from over the sea that we may hear and understand;
(10:07:23) (@host-GG) for Lo, it is your own hear; it is within your own power, yes within your own might! It is the application of what you know to do in the light of the Pattern as set in the Christ. That is Applies Wisdom!" 262-104
(10:07:49) (@host-GG) Q: If Jesus the Christ is the pattern that we are to follow, how can we gain the power to act as He did?
(10:08:12) (@host-GG) A: "You are chosen, you are sufficient ~~ if you will but apply what you know. For as you apply day by day what you know, then is the next step, the next act, the next experience shown you.
(10:08:42) (@host-GG) Because you have then failed here or there, do not say, "Oh, I cannot ~~ I am weak". To be sure you are weak in self, but O you of little faith! For He is your strength! That is Wisdom!
(10:09:07) (@host-GG) "Let no one then again ever say 'I cannot'. It's rather, if you do, saying 'I will not ~~ I want my way'. This is foolishness; and you know the Way. For He is Strength. He is Love. He is Patience, He is Knowledge. He is Wisdom.
(10:09:32) (@host-GG) Claim all of these then, in Him! For He is in you, and the Father has not desired that any soul should perish but has prepared a way of escape; a way of love, of peace, of harmony for every soul ~~ if you will but claim same, live same, in Him". 262-104
(10:10:12) (@host-GG) (Footnote: I've read that as a boy you hoped to become a minister but were unable to continue your schooling needed to qualify for the ministry. But hearing your explanation of the significance of Jesus makes me think you achieved your ambition after all.)
(10:11:17) (@host-GG) This finishes Chapter XI. Next week we start Chapter XII "Good Can Overcome Evil".
(10:11:29) (@blubearwoman) Good one Lory!
(10:11:39) (merri) that should be interesting
(10:11:41) (@blubearwoman) Thank you
(10:11:43) (@host-GG) Thank you for coming everyone.
(10:11:44) (mael) wonderful thank you GG
(10:12:27) (@walksinspirit) This was great, Grandmother! Thank you so much!!!
(10:12:36) (@cris7) Thanks Lory
(10:12:46) (@cris7) This is wonderful material
(10:13:38) (@host-GG) I agree with you Cris. I guess you can't do much better than actually quote Cayce's words verbatim.
(10:13:49) (@blubearwoman) Merri your questions still have my attention
(10:13:51) (@rons) Very good Lory...
(10:14:17) (merri) just some thoughts, Blu
(10:14:28) (@host-GG) Next weeks Good Can Overcome Evil should help with one or two of her questions Blu.
(10:14:45) (@blubearwoman) cool
(10:15:24) (merri) it's easy to think of applying these concepts when one is sitting at home safe & snug
(10:15:26) (gilly) thank you lory
(10:15:50) (@host-GG) One of the last chapters is A Path to Peace, and should be helpful as well.
(10:16:10) (@host-GG) Your welcome, gilly. So good to see you.
(10:16:14) (@blubearwoman) Well Merri, as it happens we are not all that safe as 911 showed us
(10:16:38) (merri) exactly and it will come closer
(10:16:42) (@blubearwoman) I try to apply in my own little sphere, it makes the bigger concepts easier to handle
(10:16:58) (@cris7) We can all use the path to peace
(10:17:09) (@blubearwoman) may come closer
(10:18:07) (@blubearwoman) the magic and perfection of the plan of God to send Jesus, who then sent out the 12 is a masterful piece of a perfect plan, it will work
(10:18:15) (merri) I've been reading books to try to understand the Muslim way of thinking
(10:18:18) (@host-GG) It seems to have eased a bit. I certainly pray this is an omen of seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.
(10:19:07) (merri) they have a deep, ingrained history of power and killing anyone who gets in their way
(10:19:21) (@blubearwoman) so do we if you think about it
(10:19:25) (@blubearwoman) ask WIS
(10:19:27) (@host-GG) And they teach it to their children, generation to generation.
(10:19:34) (@cris7) That can be changed with prayer
(10:19:52) (@cris7) People are tired of killings and they are looking for a way to have peace
(10:20:00) (@blubearwoman) yes, prayer works miracles
(10:20:10) (@rons) Looking back to the father of the Arabs, Ishmael. Cause of Sarahs impatience, we have the emotional arab. Shoot first, talk later...
(10:20:15) (@cris7) In news interviews the common people say they want change
(10:20:26) (merri) some are Cris, but unfortunately many are not
(10:20:45) (@blubearwoman) change must come one person at a time
(10:20:50) (@cris7) The desire is there maybe the next generation will make it a reality
(10:21:23) (merri) that sums it up good, ron!!
(10:21:29) (@blubearwoman) that is why when you speak to another soul about anything, it is vitally important. Because you are the doorway to the Christ
(10:21:37) (@host-GG) And goodnight everyone. Sweet Dreams. LOVE to all.
(10:21:46) (gilly) nite
(10:21:47) (@cris7) Blessings Lory
(10:21:50) (merri) Blessings Lory
(10:21:56) (gilly) it was good
(10:21:56) (@blubearwoman) Blessings Lory
(10:22:03) (@walksinspirit) Night Blessings Grandmother! Love you! Thank you!
(10:22:04) (gilly) good to see you all
