Post by Blu on Sept 24, 2007 23:15:43 GMT -5
[21:17] <Host-GG> "A human being not in proper balance physically, emotionally, mentally and spiritually will subconsciously set up a vibrational "signal" which will attract to him/her the very diseases, accidents or incidents necessary for that individual's redirection, rebirth or death."
[21:18] <Host-GG> Chapter IX - More Than One Life to Live - No Soul Left Behind
[21:22] <Host-GG> Cayce was stunned when he first channeled information about a colleague who was said to have been a monk in a previous life. There was no place in his Christian doctrine for such alien ideas as reincarnation. However, in countless readings that he subsequently gave, similar information came through about others, including members of his own family and himself, everyone has more than a single life to live. Cayce not only accepted it as valid information but explained that the spiritual purpose of reincarnation is the further development of our immortal soul on one more leg of its extended journey through the universe.
[21:23] <Host-GG> Q: In telling us that the soul needs further development in order to offer companionship to God, you said that is the soul's destiny ~~ but that we don't have to accomplish it in a single lifetime. Would you explain your understanding of how reincarnation works?
[21:23] <Host-GG> A: "Life and its [numerous] expressions are one. Each soul or entity will and does return, or cycle, as does nature in its manifestations [such as perennial plants] about man; thus leaving, making, or presenting, as it were, those infallible, indelible truths that it ~~ Life ~~ is continuous.
[21:24] <Host-GG> And though there may be a few short years in this or that [life] experience, they [the multiple incarnations] are one; the soul, the inner self [that is] being purified, being lifted up, that it may be one with that First Cause, that first purpose for its coming into existence." 938-1
[21:24] <Host-GG> Q: If life is continuous and we have multiple lives on earth, as different personalities, why don't we remember who we were in the past?
[21:25] <Host-GG> A: "You only become aware of this as it becomes necessary for you to make practical application in your [present life] experience. 5231-1 When the necessity arises, as to how, where, and in what direction those opportunities were applied, the entity brings those influences to bear in its relationships to daily problems." 2301-4
[21:25] <Host-GG> Footnote: Through regression therapy, flashback memories of past lives have been extensively researched and reported by Ian Stevenson (Twenty Cases Suggestive of Reincarnation and other books} and by Brian L. Weiss {Many Lives, Many Masters}. Dreams or mystical experiences during meditation have also inspired subjects to accept past lives, gaining a clearer understanding of the circumstances they face in this life.
[21:26] <Host-GG> Q: Why don't we remember them more often?
[21:26] <Host-GG> A: "The same may be asked as to why there is not the remembering of the time when two an two to [you] the entity become four, or when C A T spelled cat." 2301-4
[21:27] <Host-GG> Q: Well, it is true, when you try to recall details from your childhood, not much is readily accessible. Wouldn't it be constructive if we could witness a documentation of our past lives, like reading our own biography, in the interest of making improvements?
[21:27] <Host-GG> A: "Documentary evidence to the mind of the masses is nil. Only that which produces or makes for experiences [from one lifetime to another] that may make a citizen a better citizen, a father a better father, a mother a better mother, a neighbor a better neighbor, is constructive [for the soul]." 5753-2
[21:28] <Host-GG> Q: Is it fair to assume that it may be a blessing to forget some of our mistakes or misdeeds in past lives?
[21:28] <Host-GG> A: "As to the experiences in the earth, these have been many and quite varied. Many of these are not well {that is, useful memories] even to be known to self, and thus have they been blotted from the book of your remembrance, even as He blots them from the book of God's remembrance,
if you love one another, if you mete to your fellow man, yes, to your sisters in all walks of experience, that love of which you are capable in your self. For he who has loved much, to that one may much be given." 5231-1
[21:29] <Blu> I did not know that!
[21:29] <Host-GG> There sure is a lot of material in this book that I had never been aware of either, Blu.
[21:30] <Cris> Life Mistakes blotted from our records
[21:30] <Host-GG> Q: You've given readings for people who asked about their past lives, and you were able to provide a few details. Can you give us an example of what you told client 5231, who is a woman?
[21:30] <Host-GG> Then that is a blessing, isn't it Cris?
[21:31] <Cris> Yes it is especially when young people get mixed up with the wrong crowds
[21:31] <Host-GG> A: "The entity was in the French land during those periods when many questions might be asked as to what were the standards of activities and morals of the peoples. Though they used beauty and harmony, music and art, there were the thoughts and activities more for satisfying, gratifying of appetites of the body.
[21:31] <Host-GG> "The entity was then in the name Fauchee Bannasten. In the experience the entity gained in knowledge, not too much in understanding; though it gained in its spiritual desires to become aware of that which would bring harmony and peace into and unto the soul, rather that that wearying of the world." 5231-1
[21:32] <Host-GG> Q: Did she have other past lives before that one in France?
[21:32] <Host-GG> A: "Before that we find the entity was in the Holy Land when those [her] peoples were journeying there. The entity was among the Midianites who consorted with the peoples led by Moses and Joshua. There was a reckoning, as others were in authority.
[21:33] <Host-GG> Yet the entity . . . gained through that experience, for being spared to journey with the sons of Manasseh into the Holy Land. The name then was Jeluen." 5231-1
[21:33] <Host-GG> Q: How did you connect those former lives with the client's present life and her behavior?
[21:34] <Host-GG> A: "In the experience in the present, from those desires [that she experienced in past lives], comes the longing for the awakening to home, home that gives the expression of rest, a place of peace, and comfort, a place where thanks and blessings may be said, the place where each looks out for the other to make that day, that hour, a little more sacred, a little more peaceful, a little more beautiful, yea, to be appreciated; that thanks may be given to Him on high who will, who does prepare the home. For as He gave, "I go to prepare a place for you that wherever I am ye may be also.
[21:35] <Host-GG> "Thus is the home, and they who seek to make those places in the earth called homes, indeed blessed among the sons of men. So the desire of your heart to make a home for those who may have wandered, even may have erred in the eyes of man; "Thus is the home, and they who seek to make those places in the earth called homes, indeed blessed among the sons of men. So the desire of your heart to make a home for those who may have wandered, even may have erred in the eyes of man; man; yet God knows their hearts, and many of those whom you would aid may come to know, too, the blessings of the Holy One, who honored woman that she might, too, be equal with man in the redemption of man from the wiles of the Devil, or the wiles of whom who would cause man or woman to err in any manner." 5231-1
[21:37] <Host-GG> Footnote: In many Lives, Many Masters, Brian L. Weiss, the head of the psychiatry department at Mount Sinai Medical Center in Miami Beach, Florida, gives an example of Cayce's claim that a person's remembrance of a pat life may be relevant to a problem in this life. For example, consider the case of a twenty-seven-year-old patient suffering from anxiety, depression, and phobias. When Weiss used hypnosis to help her remember repressed childhood traumas she described several of her hitherto unknown eighty-six past lives, as well as philosophical messages channeled from 'Master Spirits'. Her anxieties and phobias soon disappeared, says Weiss, and she was able to end therapy.
[21:42] <Host-GG> Q: Did she have any other lives?
[21:42] <Host-GG> A: "Before that we find the entity was in the Egyptian land, but the entity was among those peoples who were in the groups returning with the priest Footnote: This Egyptian priest, Ra Ta, according to other Cayce trance revelations, was a past life of Cayce himself, from banishment.
[21:43] <Host-GG> And being purified in the Temple of Sacrifice, the entity sought those activities through the Temple Beautiful; misusing in the beginning the privileges granted but learning later, through the analysis of self, just as she may be the present find, how many promises there are in the holy words [in the Bible] that would apply to your own self. And you will find eventually He will talk, He will walk with you. What greater blessing may be in the life experience of any soul?
[21:44] <Host-GG> "Study, then, the scripture, for in them you think you have eternal life. You have, and they are that which testify of the living Christ who may abide in your presence, as you minister to those about you in the nurturing of same, in the knowledge of the risen Lord." 5231-1
[[21:48] <Host-GG> Q: Are some people indifferent or even resistant to learning about their past lives because they may not have been very righteous" Or they might have been of the opposite sex or a different race ~~ is that possible"
[21:48] <Host-GG> A: "At times" 136-27
[21:49] <Host-GG> Q: What conditions determine our gender or race when the soul returns in a new body?
[21:49] <Host-GG> A: "As to race, color, or sex, this depends upon that experience necessary for the completion, for the building up of the purposes for which each and every soul manifests in the material experience. For as is generally accepted, and as is in greater part true, the experiences of a soul-entity in materiality, in the three dimensional sphere of activity, are lessons or studies in that particular phase of the entity's or soul's development." 294-189
[21:50] <Host-GG> Footnote: Each soul is said to choose those special conditions of its subsequent incarnations that are likely to foster its spiritual development. An example is a friend of mine whose work with the homeless in Virginia Beach, she believes, is a lesson necessitated by a past life when she was a warrior who destroyed villages, leaving many residents homeless.
[21:51] <Host-GG> Q: Development for what?
[21:51] <Host-GG> A: "That which the Giver of all Good and perfect gifts gave the expressions in materiality when spirit had entangles itself in matter. Thus that which has been given: The will of the Father is that no soul shall perish, but that all shall come to know Him and He is. For God is, and seeks that man should worship Him in spirit and in truth, even as He is Spirit, is Truth; not as a condition only but as an experience, as a met.
[21:52] <Host-GG> For indeed as has been given, whatsoever you sow, so shall you reap. And these are gathered only in the phases of experience in which the associations, the activities, the relations have been. Thus as there is continuity of life expression, so must it continue." 294-189
[21:53] <Host-GG> as a manifestation.
[21:53] <Merri> now that contradicts what was said before
[21:54] <Merri> about blotting out mistakes
[21:54] <Host-GG> Which contradiction, Merri?
[21:54] <Merri> errors must be met
[21:55] <Host-GG> Perhaps, yet was he not talking about a certain phase must be met in this last quote?
[21:55] <Blu> blotted out after they are met?
[21:55] <Cris> or forgiven
[21:55] <ron1> was that 'blotting out' referring to why we don't have any remembrance of some of the past?
[21:55] <ron1> or misdeeds of past memory?
[21:56] <Merri> we may not remember but God does or doesn't he?
[21:56] <ron1> I would say so
[21:56] <Blu> no
[21:56] <Blu> not if we have changed
[21:57] <Host-GG> Good question, but God's memory is not the record is it?
[21:57] <Merri> in the final analysis Blu
[21:57] <Blu> I mean if you think about it, how we would ever over come the guilt if we could remember it all?
[21:58] <Cris> I would assume atonement means just that we are forgiven and the record is cleared for us
[21:58] <Merri> it still has to be connected Lory
[21:59] <Cris> Hopefully in learning that lesson we won't repeat it
[21:59] <Blu> What has to be connected?
[21:59] <Host-GG> God's memory and the record, is that what you are referring to, Merri?
[21:59] <Merri> our record and God's memory
[22:00] <Blu> I have a suspicion we are talking apples and oranges here
[22:00] <Host-GG> But God would also remember our asking for forgiveness and He would remember that, too, would He not?
[22:00] <Blu> What we are doing here is in the finite, not the infinite
[22:00] <Cris> If God is pure love and forgiveness there is nothing to keep in mind about us
[22:01] <Cris> That is why the record is cleared
[22:01] <Merri> it's still all connected
[22:01] <Blu> This dimension is like a video game, it's not "real", it's practice.
[22:02] <ron1> instead of remembering the actual misdeed, which can be overwhelming for souls, we, instead, 'meet self'
[22:02] <Merri> but it still goes on record, no?
[22:03] <Blu> the video game record
[22:03] <Host-GG> Yes, but God could wipe it out, if He so chose.
[22:03] <Merri> what about the Soul record?
[22:03] <Merri> or the subconscious where everything is recorded
[22:03] <Blu> It's got a delete button
[22:04] <Merri> LOL
[22:04] <Host-GG> lol Blu
[22:04] <Blu> ;-D
[22:04] <Merri> rather like God talking to Moses on the Internet!!
[22:05] <Blu> We are probably up to level 5 in the game, when we get to the end, goes to zero....
[22:05] <Host-GG> May be that is why God erased it, like Cris said, we learned the lesson and He would know if we learned it well enough to not repeat it, ?
[22:06] <Blu> ok
[22:07] <Blu> agreed Lory
[22:07] <Cris> I thought it was a specific mistake that we head learned to correct
[22:07] <ron1> cause of 'impatience' souls take the long journey back 'patiently'
[22:07] <Blu> All analogies have a small error in them ;-D can't go the distance
[22:08] <Merri> I think the problem here for me anyway is quotes taken out of context
[22:08] <ron1> right
[22:08] <Merri> tends to change the perspective
[22:08] <Host-GG> But the questions are answered by Cayce as given, are they not?
[22:09] <ron1> have to re-read that paragraph carefully
[22:09] <Host-GG> Shall I repost it?
[22:09] <Host-GG> What say you?
[22:10] <Blu> sounds good to me GG
[22:13] <Host-GG> Q: Is it fair to assume that it may be a blessing to forget some of our mistakes or misdeeds in past lives?
[22:14] <Host-GG> A: "As to the experiences in the earth, these have been many and quite varied. Many of these are not well {that is, useful memories] even to be known to self, and thus have they been blotted from the book of your remembrance, even as He blots them from the book of God's remembrance,
if you love one another, if you mete to your fellow man, yes, to your sisters in all walks of experience, that love of which you are capable in your self. For he who has loved much, to that one may much be given." 5231-1
[22:14] <Cris> May be given or forgiven?
[22:16] <Merri> that's not the right one
[22:16] <Merri> oh my mistake
[22:18] <Blu> and it does not say that God does not remember, it says from the book of God's remembrances
[22:18] <Host-GG> Q: Development for what?
[22:18] <Merri> it was another paragraph that seemed like a contradiction
[22:18] <Merri> to this paragraph
[22:19] <Host-GG> A: "That which the Giver of all Good and perfect gifts gave the expressions in materiality when spirit had entangles itself in matter. Thus that which has been given: The will of the Father is that no soul shall perish, but that all shall come to know Him and He is. For God is, and seeks that man should worship Him in spirit and in truth, even as He is Spirit, is Truth; not as a condition only but as an experience, as a
[22:21] <Host-GG> "As love is the [preferred] expression, for experiences in life manifested in the earth, so is the experience of the soul in the earth dependent upon that [earth] plane, that experience, as to [determine[ its race or color or sex. For if there has been the error in that phase, in that expression, the error must be met.
[22:22] <Host-GG> For indeed as has been given, whatsoever you sow, so shall you reap. And these are gathered only in the phases of experience in which the associations, the activities, the relations have been. Thus as there is continuity of life expression, so must it continue." 294-189
[22:22] <ron1> 'the error must be met.'
[22:22] <Merri> so what are you saying Blu? God remembers but doesn't write it down
[22:23] <Blu> Well there is a book where it is written, but the bits get erased. We know God is not a book
[22:23] <Cris> As parents we forgive completely
[22:23] <Cris> God does too
[22:24] <Merri> forgiveness is not the question
[22:24] <Blu> When we truly forgive it's like it never happened
[22:24] <Merri> if errors were erased how could Cayce tap into them?
[22:24] <Cris> I'd think the error could refer to body type in another incarnation
[22:25] <Blu> guess they weren't erased yet
[22:25] <Host-GG> I have bread baking. . . . brb
[22:25] <Merri> LOL
[22:25] <ron1> I wonder if it's unleavened bread
[22:25] <Cris> If we misused someone of another sex we might have to return for a dose of what we dished out to understand it. Then it could be forgiven and erased
[22:26] <Blu> it is a book of remembrances, now there could be other kinds of books
[22:26] <Blu> I think that is our own personal book
[22:26] <Blu> like our work we have yet to do journal
[22:26] <ron1> yes, a personal soul record and a collective Akashic record
[22:27] <Cris> singular and plural karma as individuals and groups
[22:27] <Merri> I thought the akashic record was personal
[22:27] <Blu> That is where Cayce went
[22:27] <Cris> It us but we also reincarnate as groups
[22:27] <Host-GG> Apparently not for a soul like Cayce, Merri.
[22:27] <ron1> I guess it would be the same for both personal and collective purpose
[22:27] <Blu> same book different name?
[22:28] <Cris> Just as others grace our history we grace theirs
[22:28] <Merri> Cayce's readings were for individuals
[22:28] <Blu> he did mention group karma
[22:28] <Blu> karma
[22:29] <Merri> and he read the Akashic records to give them the info so they had to be personal
[22:29] <Cris> I wonder if anyone ever thought to have him give a group reading
[22:29] <Cris> I wonder if anyone ever thought to have him give a group reading
[22:29] <Merri> yes, he did Cris
[22:29] <Host-GG> Families have karma
[22:29] <Merri> he gave readings for the SFG group
[22:30] <Cris> I'd forgotten that
[22:30] <Merri> as do nations Lory
[22:30] <Host-GG> True
[22:30] <ron1> he did the 'sins of nations'
[22:31] <Host-GG> Would you believe I can tell the time by Beau asking for a walk. lol
[22:31] <Blu> yep
[22:31] <Host-GG> He does it to me every Monday night.
[22:32] <Host-GG> I believe it also smells the bed baking. It is delightful,by the way
[22:32] <Blu> yummmmmm
[22:32] <Host-GG> it should be he
[22:32] <Host-GG> and bed should be bread, oh boy.
[22:32] <Merri> LOL bed baking must have a unique smell GG!!
[22:32] <Cris> I love fresh bread hot from the oven
[22:33] <Host-GG> I think that means my time is close to being up.
[22:33] <Blu> OK GG
[22:33] <Host-GG> lol Merri
[22:33] <Cris> We can continue next week
[22:33] <Blu> Thanks for the interesting info!
[22:33] <ron1> Thanks again...