Post by WalksInSpirit on Oct 9, 2006 22:11:44 GMT -5
Monday Night Chat: 10-09-06
(09:30:42) (Bill) okay lets get underway
(09:30:59) (brer__rabbit) on the road again....
(09:31:02) (brer__rabbit) underway
(09:31:41) (Bill) : “Not my will but Thine, O Lord, be done in me and through me. Let me ever be a channel of blessings, today, now, to those that I contact in every way. Let my going in, my coming out be in accord with that Thou would have me do, and as the call comes, ‘Here am I, send me, use me!’ “. ( 262-3) Amen
(09:31:47) (Cris) Amen
(09:31:50) (Lory) Amen
(09:31:54) (brer__rabbit) amen
(09:32:00) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:32:10) (merri) Amen
(09:32:15) (pinhead) amen
(09:32:33) (brer__rabbit) plus a thought not my will if it is in opposition to thine but ifn my will is aligned with thine maybe my will then is ok :)
(09:32:48) (Amen-Ta) No
(09:32:58) (brer__rabbit) but our will unfortunately is often in opposition
(09:33:02) (brer__rabbit) just a thought
(09:33:03) (Bill) THE FOURTH DAY: This period had to do with the developing of the elements and their functioning as a composite force, when the spiritual force directing them brought them under the supervision of the “TWO GREAT LIGHTS”, (Genesis I:16) . . . the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: He made the stars also.”
(09:33:06) (brer__rabbit) i still like it :)
(09:33:51) (Bill) The Greater Light is the symbol of the entry of the Christ (the Son) into the unfolding universe. The lesser light, the moon, is the symbol of the companion of the sun (Son). Later in these writings we shall see them in their earthly roles as Amilius and Lilith, Adam and Eve, and finally as Jesus and Mary.
(09:34:31) (Bill) The stars are symbols of the many companions of these two ~~ the souls that came in with them and that held the same ideal and purpose, to seek those who had forgotten God, and to rebuild harmony, system and balance into the developing solar system.
(09:35:24) (Bill) Each of the six days and nights are also the symbols of the states of consciousness through which those in the earth were building and reacting, a causation world of action and reaction. Each day brought to those experiencing the evolution a sense and understanding of the laws that governed matter. As the fourth day expanded, the five senses became a part of the spiritual body of man.
(09:36:11) (brer__rabbit) bill if u happen to know if what you are sayin is eula allen's interpretation or the straight stuff...
(09:36:19) (brer__rabbit) indicate so
(09:36:42) (Bill) why?
(09:36:48) (Bill) “And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.” ~~ Genesis 1:19
(09:37:07) (Bill) THE FIFTH DAY: It was in the fifth day that the first forms of animal life began to appear in the waters. The first grain of sand in the bottom of a stagnant pool received its impetus to roll over.
(09:37:41) (Bill) “And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.” ~~ Genesis 1:20
(09:38:06) (brer__rabbit) well bill coz she might not be exactly right in her spin but of course cayce is always right :)
(09:38:39) (brer__rabbit) and that moon symbology stuff didnt ring maybe true fer me
(09:38:50) (Bill) when the quotes are Cayces it will be numbered
(09:38:50) (Bill) when the quotes are Cayces it will be numbered
(09:38:52) (Bill) The fifth day must have been one of the longest periods of the six days; time for that grain of sand to project fins, then, as the dry land appeared, for the pollywog to creep up to the shore and realize that it must have legs in order to live on dry land. It had to grow wings to ride the air and to become a part of the environment into which it found its way.
(09:39:40) (Bill) The fifth day, with its alternation of ignorance and enlightenment, was approaching the time when man could enter. Not as the man of today, but as a Son of God man, a spiritual man ~~ with his desire, however, to become earth man. Until now his experience of the earth had all been of a spiritual nature.
(09:40:22) (Bill) . To be sure, the evolvement of the mineral, vegetable and animal kingdoms had been a part of the soul experiences of this Earth Man to be! They had now become a part of his very being. The soul forces of the spiritual man had moved through and with each expression of the evolving mineral, vegetable and animal kingdoms.
(09:40:41) (brer__rabbit) oops nevermind .. .i misread that does ring true about the moon thing
(09:41:12) (Bill) Until now they had moved into and out of matter at will. As God Man he was in control of the elemental forces that made up our solar system. His five senses were now developed to guide him in the taking on of an earth body.
(09:41:48) (Bill) God still felt that Creation was proceeding according to plan, without much interference from the Sons of Darkness.
(09:42:03) (Bill) “. . . and God saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.” ~~ Genesis 1:21 and 23
(09:42:24) (Bill) THE SIXTH DAY: “And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living
(09:42:38) (Bill) creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping things, and beasts of the earth after his kind; and it was so.
(09:43:02) (Bill) “And God made the best of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind; and God saw that it was good.
(09:43:39) (Bill) “And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
(09:44:11) (Bill) “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
(09:44:36) (Bill) “And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
(09:45:06) (Bill) “And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
(09:45:31) (Bill) “And to every beast of the air, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat; and it was so.
(09:45:58) (Bill) “And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.” ~~ Genesis 1:24-31
(09:46:29) (Bill) 364-6 “Let it be remembered or not confused that the earth was peopled by animals before peopled by man! First that of a ‘mass’ about which there arose a ‘mist’ and then the rising of same with light breaking over that, as it settled itself as a companion of those in the universe ~~ as it began its natural (or now natural) rotation, slowly and is slowly ~~ receding or gathering closer to the sun from which it receives its impetus.” 364-6
(09:46:39) (brer__rabbit) tis it ok to comment on some as we go along.... like when u said Bill says: God still felt that Creation was proceeding according to plan, without much interference from the Sons of Darkness. what some think of the hebrew word used there el..something as a plural and the souls that were working out salvation who were of one mind .. one with god in mind and will.....
(09:48:53) (Bill) The sixth state of consciousness began to roll over the world. The scenery, all the backdrops, in place, the stage is nearly set for the grand entry of the star ~~ Man. Until now, his stage had been the whole universe. The role he was now to play, on this state ~~ the earth ~~ would be a far harder, a much heavier role.
(09:49:01) (merri) so now we have a committee working out the plan????
(09:50:30) (brer__rabbit) elohim is the el word that is plural and in chapter 2 comes for the first time in verse 4 i think .. .yahweh elohim.... lord god in king james... and is that when jesus came more to the fore as a factor in the salvation plan maybe
(09:51:34) (Bill) “. . . The entity (2497) was in the beginning, WHEN ALL WERE GIVEN IN THE SPIRITUAL FORCE, and the morning stars sang together in the glory of the coming of the Lord and the God to make the giving of man’s influence and developing in the world forces. 2497-1
(09:51:59) (brer__rabbit) and entity 2497 would be?
(09:52:01) (Bill) “. . . Before that the entity (341) was among those when the forces of the Universe came together, when there was upon the waters the sound of the coming together of the SONS OF GOD when the morning stars sang together and over the face of the waters there was the voice of the glory of the coming of the plane for man’s dwelling. 341-1
(09:52:30) (Lory) That is why entities are numbered brer, to protect their privacy.
(09:52:34) (Bill) who ever was getting the reading where this info came from
(09:52:48) (Bill) “. . . Before that we find the entity (5056) was in the Atlantean land and in those periods BEFORE ADAM was in the earth. The entity was among those who were then THOURGHT PROJECTIONS and the physical being had the union of sex in the one body, and yet a real musician on pipes or reed instruments. 5056-1
(09:53:24) (Bill) THOUGHT PROJECTIONS
(09:53:33) (Bill) “. . . ye (1857) were with him (294) in the beginning. Ye were both then, as it were, as the WIND (for comparison) upon the waters, that announced the glory of the coming of man! Hence ye were both as SPIRITUAL IMPORTS AND PURPOSES WHEN ADAM FIRST WALKED IN THE GARDEN. 1857-2
(09:54:03) (brer__rabbit) 75000bc was when i think the more enlightend souls took on more solid bodies?
(09:54:16) (Bill) “. . . Among those who first came into the earth’s sphere before it became inhabitable to human life. Only then, as vision, did the entity (spirit entity) view the earth’s sphere, and passed to the other spheres about the earth.” 228-2
(09:55:04) (Bill) The misuse of the Creative Force by the Sons of Darkness was now beginning to be apparent. They had entered into the minerals and into the jewel deposits, spiritual centers of the earth through which the spiritual forces would flow. In their selfishness they misused these centers and scattered the jewels over the face of the earth.
(09:55:38) (Bill) Nor did they hesitate to enter the vegetable kingdom, as is later referred to in the Garden of Eden, when the apple became the symbol of transgression. The 11th verse of Genesis 1 speaks of ‘the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind’. The first chapter of Genesis, 29th verse, tells us that the fruit of the tree was for food ~~ ‘to you it shall be for meat’.
(09:56:14) (Bill) The Edgar Cayce readings give startling accounts of the corruption of the plant kingdom, in that some of the Dark Forces (Sons of Lucifer) when the body was being formed, made the tree a part of their own material body.
(09:56:36) (Bill) As the animal kingdom developed, the Dark Forces developed within it also. They created, along the lines of their own choosing, creations that were grotesque.
(09:57:06) (brer__rabbit) i heard that the way it is worded eating of the able that it was using nourishment for self glory using knowledge to feel one has the right to lord it over others
(09:57:07) (Bill) “. . . in that particular experience there still were those who were physically, entangled in the animal kingdom with the appendages, with cloven hoofs, with four legs, with portions of trees, with tails, with scales, with those various things that Thought Forms (or evil) had so indulged in as to separate the purpose of God’s creation of man as man ~~ not as animal but as man.” 2072-8
(09:57:29) (brer__rabbit) in other words abusing knowledge
(09:58:05) (Bill) This is speaking of a later period, to be sure, when the thought forms had become hardened and set, as a part of earthly activity. This activity had its beginning in the very young earth and moved on and increased as the minerals formed, then into the plant world, and was far advanced as the animals developed. The Greeks have preserved a graphic picture of these grotesque creations in their mythology.
(09:59:10) (Bill) The Sons of Darkness ~~ those souls which had become selfish ~~ had concerned themselves exclusively, from the first, with their own creations, while the Sons of Light were concerned with the orderly unfolding of the Divine Plan. The latter ~~ the Sons of God ~!~ were fully aware, however, of the corruption of ideals going on about them,
(09:59:50) (Bill) and it was with great consternation that they came to realize that everything in creation at some time would be touched with the imperfect thought projections of the opposing forces. Therefore they chose to do something about it. Their major concern was for the souls of the Sons of Darkness, rather that their creations,
(10:00:02) (brer__rabbit) why werent they aware earlier when the corruption started in the mineral kingdom
(10:00:16) (brer__rabbit) just not payin attention or......
(10:00:29) (brer__rabbit) possibly some other reason
(10:00:39) (pinhead) "were fully aware"
(10:00:42) (Bill) ~~ concern for that part of the Divine Spirit within them that was fast moving beyond the reach of the Father Himself, ‘. . . and darkness was upon the face of the deep’. (Genesis 1:2) This is the same darkness that was before the face of God in the elements at the beginning of the Creation. Now it is before His face in the earth, the darkness, the ignorance, within the souls when in spirit they choose to cross God.
(10:00:46) (brer__rabbit) at that point pin
(10:01:29) (brer__rabbit) and it be a good question :)
(10:01:33) (Bill) okay Rabbit give us a run down on what we've read here ;O0
(10:01:45) (Bill) thats the material for this evening
(10:01:46) (pinhead) contradiction
(10:02:07) (brer__rabbit) well not everyting but didnt u say they missed what the sons of darkness had been bringin in at first
(10:02:20) (brer__rabbit) and if so
(10:02:24) (brer__rabbit) why did they miss that
(10:02:27) (brer__rabbit) were my question
(10:02:28) (Bill) we have approx. 3 pages left for next wk.
(10:02:41) (Mandy) That was wonderful Bill...I loved reading that
(10:02:51) (merri) How could ANYTHING get away from God
(10:03:08) (merri) If He was the source
(10:03:17) (Amen-Ta) He gave His Children Free Will.
(10:03:33) (merri) He is still the Creator
(10:03:35) (Amen-Ta) A Will even to defy gOd.
(10:03:53) (Cris) Thanks Bill
(10:04:41) (WalksInSpirit) Great study tonight, Bill! Thank you!
(10:04:59) (pinhead) Very good bill
(10:06:17) (Mandy) It just goes to show ya..it's always somethin'
(10:06:47) (Bill) reads here rabbit: The Greater Light is the symbol of the entry of the Christ (the Son) into the unfolding universe. The lesser light, the moon, is the symbol of the companion of the sun (Son). Later in these writings we shall see them in their earthly roles as Amilius and Lilith, Adam and Eve, and finally as Jesus and Mary.
(10:06:55) (Bill) The stars are symbols of the many companions of these two ~~ the souls that came in with them and that held the same ideal and purpose, to seek those who had forgotten God, and to rebuild harmony, system and balance into the developing solar system.
(10:07:18) (brer__rabbit) i said i had went back over that part and was in agreement
(10:07:30) (pinhead) gee whiz
(10:07:51) (brer__rabbit) no hidden taking the name of the lord in vain pinhead tch tich
(10:08:08) (brer__rabbit) gee whiz indeed :)
(10:08:33) (Wanda) Do you think that some of the sons of darkness have begun to try to correct their mistakes.
(10:09:18) (brer__rabbit) on the aspect that sometimes the sons of darkness are doin bad things that realized souls are not immediately fully aware of the negative state..... i think has some application
(10:09:21) (Bill) God willed that not one soul should perish, and into the darkness He sent the Light
(10:09:36) (Leon) that is if ther really sons of darkness
(10:09:41) (merri) I think on the evolutionary scale yes, Wanda...but there is a long way to go
(10:09:43) (Amen-Ta) All are of God; that would imply some kind of Intelligence somewhere within all.
(10:10:05) (brer__rabbit) well there are those daughters of men that tempted the sons of god :)
(10:10:24) (Amen-Ta) Women still tempt men.
(10:10:31) (brer__rabbit) but some rebel and abuse their gifts and other souls if they can
(10:10:32) (Bill) and we love it
(10:10:34) (pinhead) we do need excuses
(10:10:56) (brer__rabbit) woman as symbolic of the soul's record and past ...which we have not owned up to
(10:11:00) (Lory) They, too, had free will, brer, and those daughters later began to change.
(10:11:08) (brer__rabbit) women are very good at pointing such out in some manner
(10:11:19) (Amen-Ta) One must remain in a vibration thyat is neither male nor female least the great hoar wins.
(10:11:21) (Lory) Now be nice, brer...... lol
(10:11:41) (pinhead) lol
(10:11:55) (brer__rabbit) evil first attempts to deceive us in the parts of our subconscious that where we cover up our own failings
(10:12:02) (Leon) you for a team-- one side white and one side black may the illusion show up to -- not really exist
(10:12:27) (Amen-Ta) When the two are as one, neither male nor female. Clement
(10:12:31) (brer__rabbit) there are evil choices that could have been avoided but were nevertheless indulged in
(10:12:49) (Amen-Ta) As we were in the Beginning.
(10:12:59) (brer__rabbit) when one has been convicted of one's old sinful nature and has repented and accepted the holy spirit .....
(10:13:08) (Lory) That was us, you and me, brer, that you are talking about.
(10:13:09) (Bill) evil = selfishness
(10:13:11) (brer__rabbit) then the heart or subconscious maybe be cleansed
(10:13:16) (WalksInSpirit) Yeah, that's what the Early Church did was hang the fault of "evil" on women and in so doing, they got rid of the Mother God concept.
(10:13:28) (Amen-Ta) Balence comes when the two are as One.
(10:13:33) (brer__rabbit) and then the subconscious and conscious can work without being tripped up by the woman :)
(10:13:55) (Leon) all part of the game brer doesn't it actually sound silly to your common sense.
(10:14:17) (brer__rabbit) when our conscious mind s ymbolized by the male ..... recognizes its old sin nature and consciously chooses to repent then the heart or woman or subconscious can be cleansed
(10:14:18) (Lory) And isn't that a pity, Walks? Mothers are such wonderful human beings.
(10:14:33) (Amen-Ta) And as the early church do some judge rather harshly.
(10:14:40) (Leon) Oneness
(10:14:54) (brer__rabbit) so woman can symbolize the subconscious in both sexes /.....
(10:15:00) (Lory) And still some do Amen-Ta
(10:15:12) (brer__rabbit) and man the conscious or active function in both sexws
(10:15:38) (merri) male is the positive energy
(10:15:52) (merri) female is the negative retentive energy
(10:15:53) (Amen-Ta) The soul having the vibration of neither male, nor female, but both.
(10:15:54) (brer__rabbit) subconscious is the record of our conscious choices plus the added gift of mercy and grace that allows it to function despite its sins so as it can learn and repetnt
(10:16:06) (Leon) sexes-- all part of the game
(10:16:13) (brer__rabbit) the soul is more symbolic of the record of our spiritual choices
(10:16:16) (Lory) And throughout our many incarnations we ALL will be and have been both male and female roles.
(10:16:18) (Wanda) I see what you are saying brer. a ying yang kind of energy
(10:16:25) (brer__rabbit) there is a distintion between soul and spirit and a linkage
(10:16:42) (brer__rabbit) but generally most stay in one sex i think cayce said
(10:16:47) (Amen-Ta) THE Soul Portion of God that separates us from the rest of Creation.
(10:16:48) (Bill) not necessarily Lory
(10:17:05) (brer__rabbit) the soul is the record of our individual use of spirit
(10:17:06) (WalksInSpirit) Well, one thing I have found since keeping these transcripts... none judge as harshly as one's own words do.
(10:17:22) (Amen-Ta) Yes it is the sum total of all we have done, thought, whatever.
(10:17:42) (Lory) Please explain, Bill.
(10:17:42) (brer__rabbit) and if they are according to the will of the creator we are fully aware of our soul
(10:17:45) (Leon) exactally
(10:17:57) (brer__rabbit) but if free will abuse one loses a proper sense of self
(10:18:12) (merri) Cayce did say we must experience ALL the races and both sexes in this earth experience
(10:18:20) (Amen-Ta) There is trhe self that leads to death.
(10:18:32) (brer__rabbit) our soul is either cleased and pure or not
(10:18:32) (Amen-Ta) There isw the Self That Leads To Life.
(10:18:41) (brer__rabbit) it just takes a bit of impurity to ruin the perfection
(10:18:51) (brer__rabbit) but there are different levels of impefection
(10:18:52) (brer__rabbit) of sin
(09:30:59) (brer__rabbit) on the road again....
(09:31:02) (brer__rabbit) underway
(09:31:41) (Bill) : “Not my will but Thine, O Lord, be done in me and through me. Let me ever be a channel of blessings, today, now, to those that I contact in every way. Let my going in, my coming out be in accord with that Thou would have me do, and as the call comes, ‘Here am I, send me, use me!’ “. ( 262-3) Amen
(09:31:47) (Cris) Amen
(09:31:50) (Lory) Amen
(09:31:54) (brer__rabbit) amen
(09:32:00) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:32:10) (merri) Amen
(09:32:15) (pinhead) amen
(09:32:33) (brer__rabbit) plus a thought not my will if it is in opposition to thine but ifn my will is aligned with thine maybe my will then is ok :)
(09:32:48) (Amen-Ta) No
(09:32:58) (brer__rabbit) but our will unfortunately is often in opposition
(09:33:02) (brer__rabbit) just a thought
(09:33:03) (Bill) THE FOURTH DAY: This period had to do with the developing of the elements and their functioning as a composite force, when the spiritual force directing them brought them under the supervision of the “TWO GREAT LIGHTS”, (Genesis I:16) . . . the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: He made the stars also.”
(09:33:06) (brer__rabbit) i still like it :)
(09:33:51) (Bill) The Greater Light is the symbol of the entry of the Christ (the Son) into the unfolding universe. The lesser light, the moon, is the symbol of the companion of the sun (Son). Later in these writings we shall see them in their earthly roles as Amilius and Lilith, Adam and Eve, and finally as Jesus and Mary.
(09:34:31) (Bill) The stars are symbols of the many companions of these two ~~ the souls that came in with them and that held the same ideal and purpose, to seek those who had forgotten God, and to rebuild harmony, system and balance into the developing solar system.
(09:35:24) (Bill) Each of the six days and nights are also the symbols of the states of consciousness through which those in the earth were building and reacting, a causation world of action and reaction. Each day brought to those experiencing the evolution a sense and understanding of the laws that governed matter. As the fourth day expanded, the five senses became a part of the spiritual body of man.
(09:36:11) (brer__rabbit) bill if u happen to know if what you are sayin is eula allen's interpretation or the straight stuff...
(09:36:19) (brer__rabbit) indicate so
(09:36:42) (Bill) why?
(09:36:48) (Bill) “And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.” ~~ Genesis 1:19
(09:37:07) (Bill) THE FIFTH DAY: It was in the fifth day that the first forms of animal life began to appear in the waters. The first grain of sand in the bottom of a stagnant pool received its impetus to roll over.
(09:37:41) (Bill) “And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.” ~~ Genesis 1:20
(09:38:06) (brer__rabbit) well bill coz she might not be exactly right in her spin but of course cayce is always right :)
(09:38:39) (brer__rabbit) and that moon symbology stuff didnt ring maybe true fer me
(09:38:50) (Bill) when the quotes are Cayces it will be numbered
(09:38:50) (Bill) when the quotes are Cayces it will be numbered
(09:38:52) (Bill) The fifth day must have been one of the longest periods of the six days; time for that grain of sand to project fins, then, as the dry land appeared, for the pollywog to creep up to the shore and realize that it must have legs in order to live on dry land. It had to grow wings to ride the air and to become a part of the environment into which it found its way.
(09:39:40) (Bill) The fifth day, with its alternation of ignorance and enlightenment, was approaching the time when man could enter. Not as the man of today, but as a Son of God man, a spiritual man ~~ with his desire, however, to become earth man. Until now his experience of the earth had all been of a spiritual nature.
(09:40:22) (Bill) . To be sure, the evolvement of the mineral, vegetable and animal kingdoms had been a part of the soul experiences of this Earth Man to be! They had now become a part of his very being. The soul forces of the spiritual man had moved through and with each expression of the evolving mineral, vegetable and animal kingdoms.
(09:40:41) (brer__rabbit) oops nevermind .. .i misread that does ring true about the moon thing
(09:41:12) (Bill) Until now they had moved into and out of matter at will. As God Man he was in control of the elemental forces that made up our solar system. His five senses were now developed to guide him in the taking on of an earth body.
(09:41:48) (Bill) God still felt that Creation was proceeding according to plan, without much interference from the Sons of Darkness.
(09:42:03) (Bill) “. . . and God saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.” ~~ Genesis 1:21 and 23
(09:42:24) (Bill) THE SIXTH DAY: “And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living
(09:42:38) (Bill) creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping things, and beasts of the earth after his kind; and it was so.
(09:43:02) (Bill) “And God made the best of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind; and God saw that it was good.
(09:43:39) (Bill) “And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
(09:44:11) (Bill) “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
(09:44:36) (Bill) “And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
(09:45:06) (Bill) “And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
(09:45:31) (Bill) “And to every beast of the air, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat; and it was so.
(09:45:58) (Bill) “And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.” ~~ Genesis 1:24-31
(09:46:29) (Bill) 364-6 “Let it be remembered or not confused that the earth was peopled by animals before peopled by man! First that of a ‘mass’ about which there arose a ‘mist’ and then the rising of same with light breaking over that, as it settled itself as a companion of those in the universe ~~ as it began its natural (or now natural) rotation, slowly and is slowly ~~ receding or gathering closer to the sun from which it receives its impetus.” 364-6
(09:46:39) (brer__rabbit) tis it ok to comment on some as we go along.... like when u said Bill says: God still felt that Creation was proceeding according to plan, without much interference from the Sons of Darkness. what some think of the hebrew word used there el..something as a plural and the souls that were working out salvation who were of one mind .. one with god in mind and will.....
(09:48:53) (Bill) The sixth state of consciousness began to roll over the world. The scenery, all the backdrops, in place, the stage is nearly set for the grand entry of the star ~~ Man. Until now, his stage had been the whole universe. The role he was now to play, on this state ~~ the earth ~~ would be a far harder, a much heavier role.
(09:49:01) (merri) so now we have a committee working out the plan????
(09:50:30) (brer__rabbit) elohim is the el word that is plural and in chapter 2 comes for the first time in verse 4 i think .. .yahweh elohim.... lord god in king james... and is that when jesus came more to the fore as a factor in the salvation plan maybe
(09:51:34) (Bill) “. . . The entity (2497) was in the beginning, WHEN ALL WERE GIVEN IN THE SPIRITUAL FORCE, and the morning stars sang together in the glory of the coming of the Lord and the God to make the giving of man’s influence and developing in the world forces. 2497-1
(09:51:59) (brer__rabbit) and entity 2497 would be?
(09:52:01) (Bill) “. . . Before that the entity (341) was among those when the forces of the Universe came together, when there was upon the waters the sound of the coming together of the SONS OF GOD when the morning stars sang together and over the face of the waters there was the voice of the glory of the coming of the plane for man’s dwelling. 341-1
(09:52:30) (Lory) That is why entities are numbered brer, to protect their privacy.
(09:52:34) (Bill) who ever was getting the reading where this info came from
(09:52:48) (Bill) “. . . Before that we find the entity (5056) was in the Atlantean land and in those periods BEFORE ADAM was in the earth. The entity was among those who were then THOURGHT PROJECTIONS and the physical being had the union of sex in the one body, and yet a real musician on pipes or reed instruments. 5056-1
(09:53:24) (Bill) THOUGHT PROJECTIONS
(09:53:33) (Bill) “. . . ye (1857) were with him (294) in the beginning. Ye were both then, as it were, as the WIND (for comparison) upon the waters, that announced the glory of the coming of man! Hence ye were both as SPIRITUAL IMPORTS AND PURPOSES WHEN ADAM FIRST WALKED IN THE GARDEN. 1857-2
(09:54:03) (brer__rabbit) 75000bc was when i think the more enlightend souls took on more solid bodies?
(09:54:16) (Bill) “. . . Among those who first came into the earth’s sphere before it became inhabitable to human life. Only then, as vision, did the entity (spirit entity) view the earth’s sphere, and passed to the other spheres about the earth.” 228-2
(09:55:04) (Bill) The misuse of the Creative Force by the Sons of Darkness was now beginning to be apparent. They had entered into the minerals and into the jewel deposits, spiritual centers of the earth through which the spiritual forces would flow. In their selfishness they misused these centers and scattered the jewels over the face of the earth.
(09:55:38) (Bill) Nor did they hesitate to enter the vegetable kingdom, as is later referred to in the Garden of Eden, when the apple became the symbol of transgression. The 11th verse of Genesis 1 speaks of ‘the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind’. The first chapter of Genesis, 29th verse, tells us that the fruit of the tree was for food ~~ ‘to you it shall be for meat’.
(09:56:14) (Bill) The Edgar Cayce readings give startling accounts of the corruption of the plant kingdom, in that some of the Dark Forces (Sons of Lucifer) when the body was being formed, made the tree a part of their own material body.
(09:56:36) (Bill) As the animal kingdom developed, the Dark Forces developed within it also. They created, along the lines of their own choosing, creations that were grotesque.
(09:57:06) (brer__rabbit) i heard that the way it is worded eating of the able that it was using nourishment for self glory using knowledge to feel one has the right to lord it over others
(09:57:07) (Bill) “. . . in that particular experience there still were those who were physically, entangled in the animal kingdom with the appendages, with cloven hoofs, with four legs, with portions of trees, with tails, with scales, with those various things that Thought Forms (or evil) had so indulged in as to separate the purpose of God’s creation of man as man ~~ not as animal but as man.” 2072-8
(09:57:29) (brer__rabbit) in other words abusing knowledge
(09:58:05) (Bill) This is speaking of a later period, to be sure, when the thought forms had become hardened and set, as a part of earthly activity. This activity had its beginning in the very young earth and moved on and increased as the minerals formed, then into the plant world, and was far advanced as the animals developed. The Greeks have preserved a graphic picture of these grotesque creations in their mythology.
(09:59:10) (Bill) The Sons of Darkness ~~ those souls which had become selfish ~~ had concerned themselves exclusively, from the first, with their own creations, while the Sons of Light were concerned with the orderly unfolding of the Divine Plan. The latter ~~ the Sons of God ~!~ were fully aware, however, of the corruption of ideals going on about them,
(09:59:50) (Bill) and it was with great consternation that they came to realize that everything in creation at some time would be touched with the imperfect thought projections of the opposing forces. Therefore they chose to do something about it. Their major concern was for the souls of the Sons of Darkness, rather that their creations,
(10:00:02) (brer__rabbit) why werent they aware earlier when the corruption started in the mineral kingdom
(10:00:16) (brer__rabbit) just not payin attention or......
(10:00:29) (brer__rabbit) possibly some other reason
(10:00:39) (pinhead) "were fully aware"
(10:00:42) (Bill) ~~ concern for that part of the Divine Spirit within them that was fast moving beyond the reach of the Father Himself, ‘. . . and darkness was upon the face of the deep’. (Genesis 1:2) This is the same darkness that was before the face of God in the elements at the beginning of the Creation. Now it is before His face in the earth, the darkness, the ignorance, within the souls when in spirit they choose to cross God.
(10:00:46) (brer__rabbit) at that point pin
(10:01:29) (brer__rabbit) and it be a good question :)
(10:01:33) (Bill) okay Rabbit give us a run down on what we've read here ;O0
(10:01:45) (Bill) thats the material for this evening
(10:01:46) (pinhead) contradiction
(10:02:07) (brer__rabbit) well not everyting but didnt u say they missed what the sons of darkness had been bringin in at first
(10:02:20) (brer__rabbit) and if so
(10:02:24) (brer__rabbit) why did they miss that
(10:02:27) (brer__rabbit) were my question
(10:02:28) (Bill) we have approx. 3 pages left for next wk.
(10:02:41) (Mandy) That was wonderful Bill...I loved reading that
(10:02:51) (merri) How could ANYTHING get away from God
(10:03:08) (merri) If He was the source
(10:03:17) (Amen-Ta) He gave His Children Free Will.
(10:03:33) (merri) He is still the Creator
(10:03:35) (Amen-Ta) A Will even to defy gOd.
(10:03:53) (Cris) Thanks Bill
(10:04:41) (WalksInSpirit) Great study tonight, Bill! Thank you!
(10:04:59) (pinhead) Very good bill
(10:06:17) (Mandy) It just goes to show ya..it's always somethin'
(10:06:47) (Bill) reads here rabbit: The Greater Light is the symbol of the entry of the Christ (the Son) into the unfolding universe. The lesser light, the moon, is the symbol of the companion of the sun (Son). Later in these writings we shall see them in their earthly roles as Amilius and Lilith, Adam and Eve, and finally as Jesus and Mary.
(10:06:55) (Bill) The stars are symbols of the many companions of these two ~~ the souls that came in with them and that held the same ideal and purpose, to seek those who had forgotten God, and to rebuild harmony, system and balance into the developing solar system.
(10:07:18) (brer__rabbit) i said i had went back over that part and was in agreement
(10:07:30) (pinhead) gee whiz
(10:07:51) (brer__rabbit) no hidden taking the name of the lord in vain pinhead tch tich
(10:08:08) (brer__rabbit) gee whiz indeed :)
(10:08:33) (Wanda) Do you think that some of the sons of darkness have begun to try to correct their mistakes.
(10:09:18) (brer__rabbit) on the aspect that sometimes the sons of darkness are doin bad things that realized souls are not immediately fully aware of the negative state..... i think has some application
(10:09:21) (Bill) God willed that not one soul should perish, and into the darkness He sent the Light
(10:09:36) (Leon) that is if ther really sons of darkness
(10:09:41) (merri) I think on the evolutionary scale yes, Wanda...but there is a long way to go
(10:09:43) (Amen-Ta) All are of God; that would imply some kind of Intelligence somewhere within all.
(10:10:05) (brer__rabbit) well there are those daughters of men that tempted the sons of god :)
(10:10:24) (Amen-Ta) Women still tempt men.
(10:10:31) (brer__rabbit) but some rebel and abuse their gifts and other souls if they can
(10:10:32) (Bill) and we love it
(10:10:34) (pinhead) we do need excuses
(10:10:56) (brer__rabbit) woman as symbolic of the soul's record and past ...which we have not owned up to
(10:11:00) (Lory) They, too, had free will, brer, and those daughters later began to change.
(10:11:08) (brer__rabbit) women are very good at pointing such out in some manner
(10:11:19) (Amen-Ta) One must remain in a vibration thyat is neither male nor female least the great hoar wins.
(10:11:21) (Lory) Now be nice, brer...... lol
(10:11:41) (pinhead) lol
(10:11:55) (brer__rabbit) evil first attempts to deceive us in the parts of our subconscious that where we cover up our own failings
(10:12:02) (Leon) you for a team-- one side white and one side black may the illusion show up to -- not really exist
(10:12:27) (Amen-Ta) When the two are as one, neither male nor female. Clement
(10:12:31) (brer__rabbit) there are evil choices that could have been avoided but were nevertheless indulged in
(10:12:49) (Amen-Ta) As we were in the Beginning.
(10:12:59) (brer__rabbit) when one has been convicted of one's old sinful nature and has repented and accepted the holy spirit .....
(10:13:08) (Lory) That was us, you and me, brer, that you are talking about.
(10:13:09) (Bill) evil = selfishness
(10:13:11) (brer__rabbit) then the heart or subconscious maybe be cleansed
(10:13:16) (WalksInSpirit) Yeah, that's what the Early Church did was hang the fault of "evil" on women and in so doing, they got rid of the Mother God concept.
(10:13:28) (Amen-Ta) Balence comes when the two are as One.
(10:13:33) (brer__rabbit) and then the subconscious and conscious can work without being tripped up by the woman :)
(10:13:55) (Leon) all part of the game brer doesn't it actually sound silly to your common sense.
(10:14:17) (brer__rabbit) when our conscious mind s ymbolized by the male ..... recognizes its old sin nature and consciously chooses to repent then the heart or woman or subconscious can be cleansed
(10:14:18) (Lory) And isn't that a pity, Walks? Mothers are such wonderful human beings.
(10:14:33) (Amen-Ta) And as the early church do some judge rather harshly.
(10:14:40) (Leon) Oneness
(10:14:54) (brer__rabbit) so woman can symbolize the subconscious in both sexes /.....
(10:15:00) (Lory) And still some do Amen-Ta
(10:15:12) (brer__rabbit) and man the conscious or active function in both sexws
(10:15:38) (merri) male is the positive energy
(10:15:52) (merri) female is the negative retentive energy
(10:15:53) (Amen-Ta) The soul having the vibration of neither male, nor female, but both.
(10:15:54) (brer__rabbit) subconscious is the record of our conscious choices plus the added gift of mercy and grace that allows it to function despite its sins so as it can learn and repetnt
(10:16:06) (Leon) sexes-- all part of the game
(10:16:13) (brer__rabbit) the soul is more symbolic of the record of our spiritual choices
(10:16:16) (Lory) And throughout our many incarnations we ALL will be and have been both male and female roles.
(10:16:18) (Wanda) I see what you are saying brer. a ying yang kind of energy
(10:16:25) (brer__rabbit) there is a distintion between soul and spirit and a linkage
(10:16:42) (brer__rabbit) but generally most stay in one sex i think cayce said
(10:16:47) (Amen-Ta) THE Soul Portion of God that separates us from the rest of Creation.
(10:16:48) (Bill) not necessarily Lory
(10:17:05) (brer__rabbit) the soul is the record of our individual use of spirit
(10:17:06) (WalksInSpirit) Well, one thing I have found since keeping these transcripts... none judge as harshly as one's own words do.
(10:17:22) (Amen-Ta) Yes it is the sum total of all we have done, thought, whatever.
(10:17:42) (Lory) Please explain, Bill.
(10:17:42) (brer__rabbit) and if they are according to the will of the creator we are fully aware of our soul
(10:17:45) (Leon) exactally
(10:17:57) (brer__rabbit) but if free will abuse one loses a proper sense of self
(10:18:12) (merri) Cayce did say we must experience ALL the races and both sexes in this earth experience
(10:18:20) (Amen-Ta) There is trhe self that leads to death.
(10:18:32) (brer__rabbit) our soul is either cleased and pure or not
(10:18:32) (Amen-Ta) There isw the Self That Leads To Life.
(10:18:41) (brer__rabbit) it just takes a bit of impurity to ruin the perfection
(10:18:51) (brer__rabbit) but there are different levels of impefection
(10:18:52) (brer__rabbit) of sin
