Post by WalksInSpirit on Sept 12, 2006 19:12:02 GMT -5
Monday Night Chat: 09-11-06
"Eula Allen & The Trillogy"
Bill says: well short lesson this evening so quess we'll get on with it
Bill says: Father, God, in Thy mercy, in Thy love, be Thou with us now. For we know and we speak of Thy love. And help us then to put away, for the hour, the cares of this life; that we may know in truth that the spirit and the lamb say, “Come.” Let them that hear also say “Come.” Let all that will, come and drink of the Water of life. (262-113.) Amen
Cris says: Amen
Cheryl says: Amen
Lory says: Amen
merri says: Amen
ron says: amen
lilith says: amen
Blu says: Amen
lilith says: lovely prayer, Bill
Bill says: “ . . . Mind is the Builder, being both spiritual and material; and the consciousness of same reaches man only in his awareness of his consciousness through the senses of his physical being.” (826-11.)
Bill says: “Then a soul, the offspring of a Creator, entering into a consciousness that became a manifestation in any plane or sphere of activity, given that free will for its use of those abilities, qualities, conditions in its experience, demonstrates, manifests, shows forth, that it reflects in its activity towards that First Cause.” (5753-1.)
Bill says: thats what we ended with last week now for this wks. stuff
Bill says: So soon as man contemplates his free will he thinks of it as a means of doing the opposite of God’s will, though he finds that only by doing God’s will does he find happiness. Yet, the notion of serving God sits ill with him, for he sees it as a sacrifice of his will.
Bill says: . Only in disillusion and suffering, in time, space, and patience, does he come to the wisdom that his real will is the will of God, and in its practice is happiness and heaven.
Bill says: “Mind is the active force in an animate object; that is the spark or image of the Maker. “Mind is the factor that is in direct opposition to will. “Mind, being that control of or being the spark of the Maker, the will ~~ the individual, when we reach the place of man.
Bill says: “Mind being and is the factor governing the contention ~~ or the interlaying space, if you please ~~ between the physical and the soul, and the soul to the spirit forces within the individual ~~ or animate forces.” (3744-1.)
Bill says: “Q-4. Is the body aware of the destiny of the physical body at birth?
Bill says: “A-4. God Himself knows not what man will destine to do with himself, else would He have repented that he had made man! He has given man free will. MAN destines the body!” (262-86.)
Bill says: Man may hold an ideal at the time of birth that would determine his destiny.
Bill says: “Q-1. Explain, ‘Mind is the factor that is in direct opposition to will’.
merri says: ahah!!
Bill says: “A-1. We have many phases of mind. We have the mind of the spirit consciousness, of the physical consciousness, or soul. We have the mind of the physical body, through which any or all of these may manifest.
Bill says: “The will is that active principle against which such manifestations respond. Hence it is in direct opposition to mind action. This, we find, then refers to the condition in the material world ~~ WILL, you see.
Bill says: The will in the spiritual plane or spirit consciousness ~~ (not spirit entity) ~~ being the creation of that manifested in the earth plane. Hence the different conditions in will’s manifesting and in how will is in opposition to the mind force.
merri says: give an example
Blu says: of what exactly Merri?
merri says: Will in opposition to mind
Bill says: “Knowledge comes through the senses in the physical body to the conscious mind. The subconscious has the storing of the knowledge of given conditions. When the consciousness receives, through the senses, that knowledge, the will is the action against the incentive set forth. . . .”(900-21.)
Blu says: ha easy
Blu says: My mind knows I should eat healthy, but I want that cookie!!
ron says: for example, when you try to meditate, what has the tendency to interfer with your medative process
Bill says: ah Blu not you too ! :o)
Blu says: I know, always the cookie
Bill says: “Q-3. Is it the destiny of every spiritual entity to become eventually one with God?
ernie says: i like cookies
Bill says: “A-3. Unless that entity wills its banishment. As is given with man: in giving of the soul, the will, wherewith to manifest in the entity whether the spiritual, whether material. With that the entity ~~ either spiritual or physical ~~ may banish itself.
ron says: the cookie...would that be a lack of will and more of giving into the body needs, body senses
Bill says: Again a compliance with law. As has been given, hell was prepared for Satan and his angels. Yet God has not WILLED that ANY soul should perish. Giving of will to His creation, MAN, that man might be one with Him. As in destiny, meaning a law, compliance with a law, destined to be subject, or being the law.” (900-20.)
Blu says: desire, not need
Blu says: over coming the material is all a part of it
merri says: kinda like doing what I want not what I know is right?
Blu says: yep
Lory says: Hunger pains are hard to ignore tho.
Blu says: cookies have nothing to do with hunger
Bill says: The following reading (5749-14.), was given to Thomas Sugrue, and was the basis for the chapter on the philosophy of the readings in ‘There Is A River’. Mr.Sugrue’s biography of Edgar Cayce.
Bill says: “(5749-14.) HLC: You will have before you the inquiring mind of the entity, Thomas Sugrue, present in this room, and certain of the problems which confront him in composing the manuscript of THERE IS A RIVER.
Bill says: “The entity is now ready to describe the philosophical concepts which have been given through this source, and wishes to parallel and align them with know religious tenets, especially those of Christian theology.
Bill says: “The entity does not wish to set forth a system of thought, nor to imply that all questions of a philosophical nature can be answered through this source ~~ the limitations of the finite mind preventing this.
Bill says: But the entity wishes to answer those questions which will naturally arise in the mind of the reader, and many of the questions which are being asked by all people in the world today.
Blu says: What? we have limitations??? darn
merri says: lol
Bill says: “Therefore, the entity presents certain problems and questions, which you will answer as befits the entity’s understanding and the task of interpretation before him.
torontal says: :o)
Bill says: “MR. C: Yes, we have the inquiring mind, Thomas Sugrue, and those problems, those questions that arise in the mind of the entity at this period. Ready for questions.
Blu says: The entity being Edgar Cayce's Higher self
lilith says: Bill - define "entity" - God, Cayce, medicine man, self?
lilith says: wow! Blu
Blu says: ;-D
Bill says: Cayce
Blu says: I know, I know
Bill says: “Q-24: Is there any other advice which may be given to this entity at this time in the preparation of these chapters?
Bill says: “A-24: Hold fast to that ideal, using Him ever as the Ideal. And hold up that necessity for each to meet the same problems. And do not attempt to shed or to surpass (sidestep) or go around the Cross. This is that upon which each and every soul must look and know it is to be borne in self with Him.” (5749-14.)
Bill says: The readings tell us that it was because of God’s desire for companionship and expression that He ‘moved’ and divided or separated Himself, creating His first Son, the Christ, the Light, the Word. The Christ, then WAS IN the beginning. (‘The beginning’ depicted by Moses is the beginning of the sphere called earth and its solar system.)
Bill says: The exemplary manner in which the first Son exercised His free will, first when in spirit and later when in physical expression in the earth, even when as Adam, enabled Him to reclaim His Christhood when, as Jesus, He died on the Cross. The first Son became as man in the earth.
Bill says: Through the ideal and purpose held He worked His way backand, as the Christed-one, He is now able to project His Christed-consciousness to the individual, to us.
Bill says: In the 5749 series of readings on Jesus, we find the definition of the Christ state of consciousness: . . . a universal consciousness of the Father Spirit.
lilith says: you know - all this was a lot simpler when all those eons ago, I sang with absolute certainty "Jesus loves me, this I know...."
Bill says: Inasmuch as the first Son, the Christ Spirit, was of God, He too desired companionship. Because of that dual desire of God and His first Son, a multiple division or separation took place in spirit, and WE were created, ~~ brothers of the first Son of God.
Bill says: . We were all created at the same time, all with the Christ state of consciousness. To us as to the first Son, God bestowed the gift of free will. We, like the first Son, our Elder Brother, were in spirit. Then, we were Man in a spiritual image; then we were Man in a physical body.
Bill says: ‘And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground.’ ~~ Genesis 11:7.
Blu says: It is still that simple to me Lilith
Bill says: Let us return again to the concept that Moses was endeavoring to draw from the Akashic records. Here was a man in a material body, like our own, in a world of material manifestations all around him. Moses sought to sort out the tell the vast experiences of all creation, to impart information that would give a clear picture of the children of God,
Wanda says: when it gets to be too much Lilith I just go back there to "Jesus Loves me"
lilith says: yeah, me too, but now & then I find myself confused with some of this
Blu says: be like little children
lilith says: & go back to humming the tune & saying the woids
Bill says: , and their expressions in spiritual, mental, and material activities, since their spiritual birth. When we consider the first verse of Genesis: ‘In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”
lilith says: well, my godfrey - that might be me! trying NOT to get child-like, tho
Bill says: And understand that this one short sentence covers the whole evolutionary process, through all earth activity, and the activity of all life that enters this solar system, we become aware that the one who drew this information was not an ordinary individual, but one able to draw upon the Akashic records.
Bill says: The readings direct our thoughts to a conclusion that clears up much of the current misunderstanding of the first two chapters of Genesis. They point out that the first chapter refers to the spiritual creation, the imagining, the patterns that were determined for all to be created.
Bill says: The second chapter refers to the slow unfolding and evolving of form, or the physical creation. Even science is gradually proving what a misconception it was to suppose that God created all in six days and nights as we know days and nights. The Bible is a good of symbols.
Bill says: . In it, day and night are symbols of vast periods of activity when enlightenment and ignorance flowed in great tides back and forth through the whole universe, periods of light and darkness in the souls of the Sons of God.
Bill says: The following excerpt from a reading throws light on the states of consciousness that flowed through the earth in its growth:
Bill says: “. . . in the days when the Sons came together in the first of the morning light by the earth’s sun, the entity was among those who gathered as to worshipers to the sun.” (4543-2.)
Leon says: the yo yo effect -- the pendulum effect
Bill says: This is the rational basis for sun-worship still current among some primitive groups. This particular entity recognized the existence of a Dive Being in their source of light, the sun, which became their God.
Bill says: “Q-3: Please explain the statement given in Genesis ~~ ‘in six days God made the heaven and the earth and RESTED THE SEVENTH DAY’.
Bill says: “A-3: That each may interpret this according to his own comprehension, is rather that each becomes aware of the power of the Father in His manifestations in the earth. When it is considered (as was later given, or WRITTEN even before this was written) that ‘a thousand years is as but a day and a day as but a thousand years, in the sight of the Lord’,
Bill says: then it may be comprehended that this was colored by the writer’s desire to express to the people the power of the living God ~~ rather than a statement of six days as man comprehends days in the present. Not that such was an impossibility, but rather than men under the environ should be impressed by the omnipotence of that they were called on to worship as God.” (262-57.)
lilith says: THERE! that's the best explanation of Genesis I ever heard! ty
Bill says: Recognizing now that the concept in Genesis 1: 1,2,3, is symbolic, we realize that each of the days and nights in the story of the Creation in the Bible was a period of evolution, a period of experience, taking place while the earth was forming and evolving.
ron says: we all shall sing and dance around lilith :)
lilith says: well, okay by me, ron! bring a Kleenex!
ron says: lol
Bill says: Now let us consider the material creations to see how they evolved from their imaged expressions, how spirit acted upon material to bring into physical being the imaged creations, how the spiritual creations evolved and manifested as physical, material creations.
Bill says: “The worlds were created and are still in creation in this heterogeneous mass called the outer sphere, or those portions as man looks up to in space. The mists that are gathering. What’s the beginning of this? In this same beginning so began the earth’s sphere.” (900-340.)
Bill says: In the beginning there had to be movement, or vibration. It takes energy to bring about movement, to produce action, or to build anything. From the readings we understand that the first out-pouring from the heart of God was energy. Energy became the major expression of the building blocks, and inasmuch as that which was imaged could not go into action without benefit of energy,
ron says: desire energy?
Bill says: God released great bursts of it for that purpose. Energy, however, has its own laws, and unless it is intelligently directed it runs wild and out of control and results in chaos. For this reason there was a constant pulling activity between the element of energy and the element of intelligence;
Bill says: so in order to control energy and thereby avert a state of chaos, God moved intelligence, or mind ~~ that which conceived the image ~~ over energy, and brought about the required balance between them.
Leon says: gravity
Bill says: These then acted upon the mists, within which was every element or ingredient of all creation (we speak here of our own solar system only, as we have not information about any others ) and it was that activity which brought forth not only the earth but our whole solar system as well.
Cheryl says: Einstein's theory of relativity - energy in to matter and vice versa
Bill says: and so ends chapter 3
Cris says: Thanks Bill
Bill says: there are physical as well as spiritual laws these are the strings that keep order as i see it
Bill says: one physical law for sure is gravity
Lory says: there were some misspelled words back there that could change the meaning of the sentence.
Cheryl says: Quantum physics speaks of strings, too
Leon says: Yes indeed, thanks Bill
merri says: where does it say God repents making man? And who put those words in God's mouth?
Blu says: Which they still do not understand what gravity is
ron says: i hope kidding around with lilith wasn't taken in the wrong way...i guess i'm facing my own sensitivity
Bill says: Lory don't be so critical we all know how to change words to suite the meaning to suite us :o)
Blu says: Lilith just got tired Ron
Lory says: One was "The
Lory says: Bible is a book of symbols.
Leon says: I very much enjoy the humor in this chat line
Bill says: Merri thats not what it said :o) is it?
merri says: that's what I read
Lory says: Sorry, Bill, you'll just have to accept the fact that I am a semi-perfectionist. :-)
Bill says: God Himself knows not what man will destine to do with himself, else would He have repented that he had made man! He has given man free will. MAN destines the body!” (262-86.)
Cheryl says: Everything is a vibration, even matter and is just a denser version of light. What is light? Photons. And photons are little bits of God that we see as the Universe.
Leon says: I give myself a star by reading and doing my best to understand good ol EC.
merri says: Oh Ok Bill...thanks
ron says: light is mind
merri says: I did misread that
ron says: the first creation, the logos
ron says: intelligence...thus the order of things...order to manifestation, or purpose
Bill says: hard to really take ones time and read it over and over till it really sinks in here Merri
ron says: also called the "word"
Lory says: Yes, merri, Cayce himself said these words in answer to a question.
ron says: light is always intelligence, wisdom...and darkness is always choas, ignorance
merri says: darkness is only the absence of light
Bill says: Light can overcome darkness but darkness cannot over come Light
Cheryl says: Love is a movement towards God, Fear is a movement away from God
Leon says: After 350 million yrs of dinasours, I feel like I'm (one) reaching for understanding under an endless sky.
merri says: I feel like I'm just emerging from the Cave Man era Leon!!
Cheryl says: lol, Merri
Wanda says: uggg
Lory says: That's almost poetic, ron. You should do some writing.
Lory says: Sorry, I meant, Leon.
ron says: thank you lory...you can call me the jittery poet
Lory says: Did the Cave Men have a soul?
merri says: why not
ron says: i'm here thinking of Space Odessy 2001
Leon says: As I listen and aspire, my thoughts get higher and higher, Lory.
ron says: or was it 2000?
Bill says: is this statement i'm about to post mean this solar system or that there are other universes when we can't even imagine the universe as it is expanding at 186,000 miles per sec.
Lory says: You sounded like you were astonished, merri, and I wanted to assure you have come a long long way
Bill says: Arcturus is that which may be called the center of this universe,
merri says: if you think of all religious history and thoughts were are not far from pagen times
Lory says: Now that is astonishing, Bill. ron said so the other day.
ron says: yes, our universe...which is usually interpreted as our galactic universe
Bill says: not the entire universe then
ron says: i have learned form my own reading that there are many universes and of course the big bang from which all have come from
Leon says: solar systems, gallaxy, Universe for sum there much the same.
Bill says: many universes or many solar systems?
ron says: i suppose that is the supreme God and all of the universes are his sons
Cheryl says: Hey, Bill, is it open chat? I have a question.
Bill says: yes Cheryl go for it
ron says: and there are many solar systems within each galactic system...this is my view only and that may change by the following week lol
Blu says: when they decide this is a dwarf planet and not a real planet
Leon says: There is only 1 universe from my money
Lory says: lol Blu
Cheryl says: lol, Blu
Bill says: thats the way i see it Leon
merri says: thanks ron was just going to ask about that
Cheryl says: How do you get rid of a Woodpecker pecking a hole on yer house? I work 3rd shift sometimes & it gets annoying. :-[
ron says: you will notice that astronomers still included the word "planet" in describing Pluto
Bill says: well unfortunately i have to go Love and Light to each of you and thank you all very much for your partisapation
Bill says: Father, God, in Thy mercy, in Thy love, be Thou with us now. For we know and we speak of Thy love. And help us then to put away, for the hour, the cares of this life; that we may know in truth that the spirit and the lamb say, “Come.” Let them that hear also say “Come.” Let all that will, come and drink of the Water of life. (262-113.) Amen
Cris says: Amen
Cheryl says: Amen
Lory says: Amen
merri says: Amen
ron says: amen
lilith says: amen
Blu says: Amen
lilith says: lovely prayer, Bill
Bill says: “ . . . Mind is the Builder, being both spiritual and material; and the consciousness of same reaches man only in his awareness of his consciousness through the senses of his physical being.” (826-11.)
Bill says: “Then a soul, the offspring of a Creator, entering into a consciousness that became a manifestation in any plane or sphere of activity, given that free will for its use of those abilities, qualities, conditions in its experience, demonstrates, manifests, shows forth, that it reflects in its activity towards that First Cause.” (5753-1.)
Bill says: thats what we ended with last week now for this wks. stuff
Bill says: So soon as man contemplates his free will he thinks of it as a means of doing the opposite of God’s will, though he finds that only by doing God’s will does he find happiness. Yet, the notion of serving God sits ill with him, for he sees it as a sacrifice of his will.
Bill says: . Only in disillusion and suffering, in time, space, and patience, does he come to the wisdom that his real will is the will of God, and in its practice is happiness and heaven.
Bill says: “Mind is the active force in an animate object; that is the spark or image of the Maker. “Mind is the factor that is in direct opposition to will. “Mind, being that control of or being the spark of the Maker, the will ~~ the individual, when we reach the place of man.
Bill says: “Mind being and is the factor governing the contention ~~ or the interlaying space, if you please ~~ between the physical and the soul, and the soul to the spirit forces within the individual ~~ or animate forces.” (3744-1.)
Bill says: “Q-4. Is the body aware of the destiny of the physical body at birth?
Bill says: “A-4. God Himself knows not what man will destine to do with himself, else would He have repented that he had made man! He has given man free will. MAN destines the body!” (262-86.)
Bill says: Man may hold an ideal at the time of birth that would determine his destiny.
Bill says: “Q-1. Explain, ‘Mind is the factor that is in direct opposition to will’.
merri says: ahah!!
Bill says: “A-1. We have many phases of mind. We have the mind of the spirit consciousness, of the physical consciousness, or soul. We have the mind of the physical body, through which any or all of these may manifest.
Bill says: “The will is that active principle against which such manifestations respond. Hence it is in direct opposition to mind action. This, we find, then refers to the condition in the material world ~~ WILL, you see.
Bill says: The will in the spiritual plane or spirit consciousness ~~ (not spirit entity) ~~ being the creation of that manifested in the earth plane. Hence the different conditions in will’s manifesting and in how will is in opposition to the mind force.
merri says: give an example
Blu says: of what exactly Merri?
merri says: Will in opposition to mind
Bill says: “Knowledge comes through the senses in the physical body to the conscious mind. The subconscious has the storing of the knowledge of given conditions. When the consciousness receives, through the senses, that knowledge, the will is the action against the incentive set forth. . . .”(900-21.)
Blu says: ha easy
Blu says: My mind knows I should eat healthy, but I want that cookie!!
ron says: for example, when you try to meditate, what has the tendency to interfer with your medative process
Bill says: ah Blu not you too ! :o)
Blu says: I know, always the cookie
Bill says: “Q-3. Is it the destiny of every spiritual entity to become eventually one with God?
ernie says: i like cookies
Bill says: “A-3. Unless that entity wills its banishment. As is given with man: in giving of the soul, the will, wherewith to manifest in the entity whether the spiritual, whether material. With that the entity ~~ either spiritual or physical ~~ may banish itself.
ron says: the cookie...would that be a lack of will and more of giving into the body needs, body senses
Bill says: Again a compliance with law. As has been given, hell was prepared for Satan and his angels. Yet God has not WILLED that ANY soul should perish. Giving of will to His creation, MAN, that man might be one with Him. As in destiny, meaning a law, compliance with a law, destined to be subject, or being the law.” (900-20.)
Blu says: desire, not need
Blu says: over coming the material is all a part of it
merri says: kinda like doing what I want not what I know is right?
Blu says: yep
Lory says: Hunger pains are hard to ignore tho.
Blu says: cookies have nothing to do with hunger
Bill says: The following reading (5749-14.), was given to Thomas Sugrue, and was the basis for the chapter on the philosophy of the readings in ‘There Is A River’. Mr.Sugrue’s biography of Edgar Cayce.
Bill says: “(5749-14.) HLC: You will have before you the inquiring mind of the entity, Thomas Sugrue, present in this room, and certain of the problems which confront him in composing the manuscript of THERE IS A RIVER.
Bill says: “The entity is now ready to describe the philosophical concepts which have been given through this source, and wishes to parallel and align them with know religious tenets, especially those of Christian theology.
Bill says: “The entity does not wish to set forth a system of thought, nor to imply that all questions of a philosophical nature can be answered through this source ~~ the limitations of the finite mind preventing this.
Bill says: But the entity wishes to answer those questions which will naturally arise in the mind of the reader, and many of the questions which are being asked by all people in the world today.
Blu says: What? we have limitations??? darn
merri says: lol
Bill says: “Therefore, the entity presents certain problems and questions, which you will answer as befits the entity’s understanding and the task of interpretation before him.
torontal says: :o)
Bill says: “MR. C: Yes, we have the inquiring mind, Thomas Sugrue, and those problems, those questions that arise in the mind of the entity at this period. Ready for questions.
Blu says: The entity being Edgar Cayce's Higher self
lilith says: Bill - define "entity" - God, Cayce, medicine man, self?
lilith says: wow! Blu
Blu says: ;-D
Bill says: Cayce
Blu says: I know, I know
Bill says: “Q-24: Is there any other advice which may be given to this entity at this time in the preparation of these chapters?
Bill says: “A-24: Hold fast to that ideal, using Him ever as the Ideal. And hold up that necessity for each to meet the same problems. And do not attempt to shed or to surpass (sidestep) or go around the Cross. This is that upon which each and every soul must look and know it is to be borne in self with Him.” (5749-14.)
Bill says: The readings tell us that it was because of God’s desire for companionship and expression that He ‘moved’ and divided or separated Himself, creating His first Son, the Christ, the Light, the Word. The Christ, then WAS IN the beginning. (‘The beginning’ depicted by Moses is the beginning of the sphere called earth and its solar system.)
Bill says: The exemplary manner in which the first Son exercised His free will, first when in spirit and later when in physical expression in the earth, even when as Adam, enabled Him to reclaim His Christhood when, as Jesus, He died on the Cross. The first Son became as man in the earth.
Bill says: Through the ideal and purpose held He worked His way backand, as the Christed-one, He is now able to project His Christed-consciousness to the individual, to us.
Bill says: In the 5749 series of readings on Jesus, we find the definition of the Christ state of consciousness: . . . a universal consciousness of the Father Spirit.
lilith says: you know - all this was a lot simpler when all those eons ago, I sang with absolute certainty "Jesus loves me, this I know...."
Bill says: Inasmuch as the first Son, the Christ Spirit, was of God, He too desired companionship. Because of that dual desire of God and His first Son, a multiple division or separation took place in spirit, and WE were created, ~~ brothers of the first Son of God.
Bill says: . We were all created at the same time, all with the Christ state of consciousness. To us as to the first Son, God bestowed the gift of free will. We, like the first Son, our Elder Brother, were in spirit. Then, we were Man in a spiritual image; then we were Man in a physical body.
Bill says: ‘And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground.’ ~~ Genesis 11:7.
Blu says: It is still that simple to me Lilith
Bill says: Let us return again to the concept that Moses was endeavoring to draw from the Akashic records. Here was a man in a material body, like our own, in a world of material manifestations all around him. Moses sought to sort out the tell the vast experiences of all creation, to impart information that would give a clear picture of the children of God,
Wanda says: when it gets to be too much Lilith I just go back there to "Jesus Loves me"
lilith says: yeah, me too, but now & then I find myself confused with some of this
Blu says: be like little children
lilith says: & go back to humming the tune & saying the woids
Bill says: , and their expressions in spiritual, mental, and material activities, since their spiritual birth. When we consider the first verse of Genesis: ‘In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”
lilith says: well, my godfrey - that might be me! trying NOT to get child-like, tho
Bill says: And understand that this one short sentence covers the whole evolutionary process, through all earth activity, and the activity of all life that enters this solar system, we become aware that the one who drew this information was not an ordinary individual, but one able to draw upon the Akashic records.
Bill says: The readings direct our thoughts to a conclusion that clears up much of the current misunderstanding of the first two chapters of Genesis. They point out that the first chapter refers to the spiritual creation, the imagining, the patterns that were determined for all to be created.
Bill says: The second chapter refers to the slow unfolding and evolving of form, or the physical creation. Even science is gradually proving what a misconception it was to suppose that God created all in six days and nights as we know days and nights. The Bible is a good of symbols.
Bill says: . In it, day and night are symbols of vast periods of activity when enlightenment and ignorance flowed in great tides back and forth through the whole universe, periods of light and darkness in the souls of the Sons of God.
Bill says: The following excerpt from a reading throws light on the states of consciousness that flowed through the earth in its growth:
Bill says: “. . . in the days when the Sons came together in the first of the morning light by the earth’s sun, the entity was among those who gathered as to worshipers to the sun.” (4543-2.)
Leon says: the yo yo effect -- the pendulum effect
Bill says: This is the rational basis for sun-worship still current among some primitive groups. This particular entity recognized the existence of a Dive Being in their source of light, the sun, which became their God.
Bill says: “Q-3: Please explain the statement given in Genesis ~~ ‘in six days God made the heaven and the earth and RESTED THE SEVENTH DAY’.
Bill says: “A-3: That each may interpret this according to his own comprehension, is rather that each becomes aware of the power of the Father in His manifestations in the earth. When it is considered (as was later given, or WRITTEN even before this was written) that ‘a thousand years is as but a day and a day as but a thousand years, in the sight of the Lord’,
Bill says: then it may be comprehended that this was colored by the writer’s desire to express to the people the power of the living God ~~ rather than a statement of six days as man comprehends days in the present. Not that such was an impossibility, but rather than men under the environ should be impressed by the omnipotence of that they were called on to worship as God.” (262-57.)
lilith says: THERE! that's the best explanation of Genesis I ever heard! ty
Bill says: Recognizing now that the concept in Genesis 1: 1,2,3, is symbolic, we realize that each of the days and nights in the story of the Creation in the Bible was a period of evolution, a period of experience, taking place while the earth was forming and evolving.
ron says: we all shall sing and dance around lilith :)
lilith says: well, okay by me, ron! bring a Kleenex!
ron says: lol
Bill says: Now let us consider the material creations to see how they evolved from their imaged expressions, how spirit acted upon material to bring into physical being the imaged creations, how the spiritual creations evolved and manifested as physical, material creations.
Bill says: “The worlds were created and are still in creation in this heterogeneous mass called the outer sphere, or those portions as man looks up to in space. The mists that are gathering. What’s the beginning of this? In this same beginning so began the earth’s sphere.” (900-340.)
Bill says: In the beginning there had to be movement, or vibration. It takes energy to bring about movement, to produce action, or to build anything. From the readings we understand that the first out-pouring from the heart of God was energy. Energy became the major expression of the building blocks, and inasmuch as that which was imaged could not go into action without benefit of energy,
ron says: desire energy?
Bill says: God released great bursts of it for that purpose. Energy, however, has its own laws, and unless it is intelligently directed it runs wild and out of control and results in chaos. For this reason there was a constant pulling activity between the element of energy and the element of intelligence;
Bill says: so in order to control energy and thereby avert a state of chaos, God moved intelligence, or mind ~~ that which conceived the image ~~ over energy, and brought about the required balance between them.
Leon says: gravity
Bill says: These then acted upon the mists, within which was every element or ingredient of all creation (we speak here of our own solar system only, as we have not information about any others ) and it was that activity which brought forth not only the earth but our whole solar system as well.
Cheryl says: Einstein's theory of relativity - energy in to matter and vice versa
Bill says: and so ends chapter 3
Cris says: Thanks Bill
Bill says: there are physical as well as spiritual laws these are the strings that keep order as i see it
Bill says: one physical law for sure is gravity
Lory says: there were some misspelled words back there that could change the meaning of the sentence.
Cheryl says: Quantum physics speaks of strings, too
Leon says: Yes indeed, thanks Bill
merri says: where does it say God repents making man? And who put those words in God's mouth?
Blu says: Which they still do not understand what gravity is
ron says: i hope kidding around with lilith wasn't taken in the wrong way...i guess i'm facing my own sensitivity
Bill says: Lory don't be so critical we all know how to change words to suite the meaning to suite us :o)
Blu says: Lilith just got tired Ron
Lory says: One was "The
Lory says: Bible is a book of symbols.
Leon says: I very much enjoy the humor in this chat line
Bill says: Merri thats not what it said :o) is it?
merri says: that's what I read
Lory says: Sorry, Bill, you'll just have to accept the fact that I am a semi-perfectionist. :-)
Bill says: God Himself knows not what man will destine to do with himself, else would He have repented that he had made man! He has given man free will. MAN destines the body!” (262-86.)
Cheryl says: Everything is a vibration, even matter and is just a denser version of light. What is light? Photons. And photons are little bits of God that we see as the Universe.
Leon says: I give myself a star by reading and doing my best to understand good ol EC.
merri says: Oh Ok Bill...thanks
ron says: light is mind
merri says: I did misread that
ron says: the first creation, the logos
ron says: intelligence...thus the order of things...order to manifestation, or purpose
Bill says: hard to really take ones time and read it over and over till it really sinks in here Merri
ron says: also called the "word"
Lory says: Yes, merri, Cayce himself said these words in answer to a question.
ron says: light is always intelligence, wisdom...and darkness is always choas, ignorance
merri says: darkness is only the absence of light
Bill says: Light can overcome darkness but darkness cannot over come Light
Cheryl says: Love is a movement towards God, Fear is a movement away from God
Leon says: After 350 million yrs of dinasours, I feel like I'm (one) reaching for understanding under an endless sky.
merri says: I feel like I'm just emerging from the Cave Man era Leon!!
Cheryl says: lol, Merri
Wanda says: uggg
Lory says: That's almost poetic, ron. You should do some writing.
Lory says: Sorry, I meant, Leon.
ron says: thank you lory...you can call me the jittery poet
Lory says: Did the Cave Men have a soul?
merri says: why not
ron says: i'm here thinking of Space Odessy 2001
Leon says: As I listen and aspire, my thoughts get higher and higher, Lory.
ron says: or was it 2000?
Bill says: is this statement i'm about to post mean this solar system or that there are other universes when we can't even imagine the universe as it is expanding at 186,000 miles per sec.
Lory says: You sounded like you were astonished, merri, and I wanted to assure you have come a long long way
Bill says: Arcturus is that which may be called the center of this universe,
merri says: if you think of all religious history and thoughts were are not far from pagen times
Lory says: Now that is astonishing, Bill. ron said so the other day.
ron says: yes, our universe...which is usually interpreted as our galactic universe
Bill says: not the entire universe then
ron says: i have learned form my own reading that there are many universes and of course the big bang from which all have come from
Leon says: solar systems, gallaxy, Universe for sum there much the same.
Bill says: many universes or many solar systems?
ron says: i suppose that is the supreme God and all of the universes are his sons
Cheryl says: Hey, Bill, is it open chat? I have a question.
Bill says: yes Cheryl go for it
ron says: and there are many solar systems within each galactic system...this is my view only and that may change by the following week lol
Blu says: when they decide this is a dwarf planet and not a real planet
Leon says: There is only 1 universe from my money
Lory says: lol Blu
Cheryl says: lol, Blu
Bill says: thats the way i see it Leon
merri says: thanks ron was just going to ask about that
Cheryl says: How do you get rid of a Woodpecker pecking a hole on yer house? I work 3rd shift sometimes & it gets annoying. :-[
ron says: you will notice that astronomers still included the word "planet" in describing Pluto
Bill says: well unfortunately i have to go Love and Light to each of you and thank you all very much for your partisapation
