Post by WalksInSpirit on Jul 24, 2006 21:44:54 GMT -5
Search For God, Book Two Study: 07-24-06
"Lesson Twelve: Spirit"
(09:29:58) (Bill) time for everyone to focus on their being here this evening for the purpose of greater understanding ! could do a head neck exercise to if you wish maybe some breathing as well
(09:32:53) (Bill) Father, God, in Thy mercy, in Thy love, be Thou with us now. For we know and we speak of Thy love. And help us then to put away, for the hour, the cares of this life; that we may know in truth that the spirit and the lamb say, “Come.” Let them that hear also say “Come.” Let all that will, come and drink of the Water of life. (262-113.) Amen
(09:33:32) (Amen-Ta) Amen
(09:33:35) (Lynn) We come Amen
(09:33:36) (ky-mike) amen
(09:34:00) (Cris) Amen
(09:34:22) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:35:47) (Bill) Introduction: Spirit is FIRST CAUSE, the essence of Creative Power, the source of light and the motivating influence of all life. It is God.
(09:38:17) (Bill) Let us not be confused by terms. What are the relationships among such terms as:
(09:39:01) (Bill) : The spirit of the times, the spirit of the age, the spirit of America, the spirit of “76”, the spirit of the pioneer, the spirit of Fascism, the spirit of the earth, the spirit of the departed, the spirit of the church, the spirit of Truth, the Spirit of the Christ, the SPIRIT OF GOD?
(09:39:08) (Lynn) Bill, slip an o between them and its HoT
(09:39:27) (Amen-Ta) Hello torontal
(09:39:36) (Rosie) ummmm..spirit??
(09:39:37) (Bill) It has been given that there is One Spirit. All manifestations of life, in any plane of consciousness are crystallizations of Spirit.
(09:39:37) (Lynn) Shall I expatiate? I thought not.
(09:40:16) (Bill) When man, through exercising free will, chooses to misdirect and divert this power into selfish channels of personal aggrandizement, rather than toward the expression of its original impulse, the glorification of the Creator, then sin comes into existence.
(09:40:47) (Bill) The spirit of the pioneer need not signify cruelty and destruction nor the spirit of strife and hate, but spirit beings encased in the physical seeking freedom as an ideal. All force is one force. It is man who brought diversity of expression and perception, and man through the Way must return to unity.
(09:41:23) (Bill) . “Get thee behind me, Satan:. . . for thou savourest not the things that be of God (the Spirit), but those that be of men.” (Matt.16:23.) These words were spoken by Jesus, when two ways were before him: self-glory, or the glory of God.
(09:41:55) (Bill) We must understand why and how Spirit came into material manifestation. Where did we come from?
(09:42:18) (Bill) “. . . we must know from whence we came, how, why, and whence we go ~~ and why.” (262-114.)
(09:42:42) (Bill) IN THE BEGINNING God created man in His image, a spiritual being, with soul, mind and will. In all states of consciousness there are opportunities for the expression of these.
(09:43:21) (Bill) Error came into existence before the earth, the heavens, or space were created. Using free will, expressing selfish desire, spiritual beings (souls) separated themselves from a consciousness of Oneness with Creative Will. Life, in material bodies, is the reflections of the separation in this state of consciousness.
(09:44:05) (Bill) Through the law of love, God prepared a way back (a road, a ladder, a knotted rope) for all mankind. Until this way was prepared there was no consciousness of time or space. These concepts are aids not hindrances, to a clearer perception of the Divine Will; for through time and space, and patience, man will come to know the Lighted Path.
(09:44:47) (Bill) Only those who seek may find this way. Flesh and blood may not reveal the truth to us. It is the quickening of the Divine Spirit within which brings each personal revelation.
(09:45:19) (Bill) MAN’S PROJECTION: The sons of God became the sons of men, as they sought selfish expression into the earth plane. They pushed themselves into matter, upsetting existent patterns of evolution going on in the earth; first, as forces seeking expression through the natural elements of mineral, plan and animal life, then, as hardened thought forms molded after the pattern of animal life in the earth.
(09:46:05) (Bill) In these thought forms spiritual beings became entangled. They lost the consciousness of their Divine origin. Monstrosities resulted. There was chaos. The darkness which existed is beyond the comprehension of the finite mind. The earth plane was only a three-dimensional point of expression for the chaotic state which existed.
(09:46:49) (Bill) GOD’S PROJECTION: Out of this mire of selfish thought, this morass of illusion, God prepared a way through the law of love. He said, “Let there be light.
(09:47:18) (Bill) .” Let there be the consciousness of time and space. The evening and the morning were the first day, a day of light and darkness, of good and evil. Step by step spiritual beings became aware that they were away from god, from Light.
(09:47:58) (Bill) Jesus, as the first Adam, became the symbol of the regenerated spiritual beings returning to God Consciousness. He came showing the way of patience by which man (spiritual man) was to recognize His state and turn toward the light.
(09:48:23) (Bill) The law of One was manifested eventually in the man Jesus, and is signified in the Christ Consciousness. (Let us get the difference.)
(09:48:53) (Bill) Adam and Eve, God’s projection, began a line of physical descent through which spiritual beings could purify their desires, and return to God Consciousness. This is the true source of the legends of the chosen race, the pure race, preserved in the legends of the peoples of every continent.
(09:49:34) (Bill) In the early days spiritual beings who used these Adamic bodies were tempted and many gave way to desire. “. . . the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.” (Gen. 6:2. See Gen. 4:16-17.)
(09:50:09) (Bill) I beleive Roz gave us this lesson
(09:50:26) (Roz) yup I did
(09:51:09) (Bill) Through the example set by the Christ, man knows the way. The choice is made daily by each soul to follow the Light or seek selfish gratification.
(09:51:55) (Bill) Now, as in the beginning, each individual is meeting himself. When he acts without thought as to motive or purpose, experiences result which may bring ease and comforts for a time, but when his activities are selfish indulgences and suppressions of his fellowman, he will reap that which he has sown.(09:52:53) (Bill) As we were created for companionship with the Father, being a portion of First Cause, it behooves us in materiality to manifest more and more our awareness of this relationship in our mental, physical and spiritual bodies.
(09:54:20) (Bill) We must fulfill the purpose for which we came into the earth plane, that is, to be again one with the Father, which is attained through the Christ Consciousness. Therefore, through the power of the Christ, who has walked the path from the beginning, we will come to know ourselves to be ourselves, yet one with and part of, the whole, yet not the Whole. That is the purpose, that is the cause, of BEING.
(09:55:22) (Bill) We can stop now or do another page or so what would you like?
(09:55:45) (ernie) more
(09:55:54) (MaryAnne) Yes, please, more
(09:55:57) (Roz) youre the boss
(09:56:17) (Bill) don't wish to give overload here :o)
(09:56:19) (ernie) who me ?cool i lkike being boss
(09:56:26) (Rosie) please sir, may I have some more? ;o)
(09:56:34) (ernie) lol
(09:56:36) (Bill) okay we'll go a little more
(09:56:40) (Lory) We are almost finished with lesson No. 12 and the book no. 2 aren't we Bill?
(09:57:34) (Lory) What do you have planned for next week?
(09:57:41) (Bill) TIME, SPACE and PATIENCE:
(09:57:56) (Bill) we'll finish lesson 12 next wk.
(09:58:19) (Lory) Ah, so.
(09:58:28) (Bill) The Spirit of God in material understanding is Time, Space and Patience.
(09:58:44) (Bill) . While they are only literal terms to the consciousness of the finite mind, they are a part of experience in materiality and should be considered as attributes of Creative Force. In understanding time, we better understand God. No other concept can bring such a consciousness of unity as an inner flash of the universality of time.
(10:00:03) (Bill) Every day is the beginning and the ending of a new opportunity Every opportunity has its beginning and end, thus making way for greater physical manifestation of spiritual ideals. Every new experience is another Garden of Eden into which we have moved.
(10:00:25) (Lory) I like that concept.
(10:00:53) (Bill) Every day is the awareness of the evening and the morning being the first day. To remain in Eden or to be driven out depends upon ourselves as to how we use our power of choice. Every moment we are just beginning to live. We are never too old to begin, if we remember that in our weakness we may be strong in Christ.
(10:01:34) (Bill) God is reflected in our concept of space. In the vastness of space our self-conceit falters. We are humblest when gazing at the stars. We draw nearer to God in contemplation of the immensity of the universe.
(10:01:54) (ernie) Amen bill
(10:02:03) (Bill) isn't that the truth
(10:02:14) (Bill) The goodness and mercy of God are shown most in patience. To be patient is God-like; for patience is a spiritual force which may be given material expression through our attitude toward our fellowman. Jesus said that in patience we come to possess our souls.
(10:02:38) (ernie) cool
(10:02:48) (Bill) We become aware of the continuity of life as we are patient. As a finite being, man can express no more God-like quality than patience.
(10:03:20) (Bill) Time, space and patience are three concepts which contain the keys to spiritual development in this three-dimensional plane. Without them fallen man is not aware of being away from God. They are the eye openers, the Voice of God speaking in the burning bush, day unto day uttering speech, night unto night showing knowledge:. (Rephrasing of Ps. 19:2.)
(10:04:10) (Bill) Using time and space and patience we measure everything, physical, mental and spiritual. When we begin to catch a glimpse of the fact that all space exists in time, that all time is one, that all force is one, that all force is God, we will be getting back to the Oneness of which Christ was speaking when He said that He would be in the Father and we would be in Him. This realization comes to us only in patience.
(10:04:43) (Lory) But so hard to do.
(10:06:59) (Bill) Okay thats enough we can now disscuss anything you'd like or call it an evening but first I'd like Amen-Ta to post the answer to a question many had last wk. about poor in spirit
(10:07:32) (Amen-Ta) 16. (Q) Please explain "Happy are the poor in spirit, for they shall see God." Who are the poor in spirit?
(10:07:39) (Bill) most of us here were at a lost for a good explanation but Amen found the quote for us
(10:07:48) (Amen-Ta) A) They that have not allowed and do not allow themselves to be directed by other influences than that of Godly-Force itself. They that are not acquainted with the familiar spirits but with the Divine. They that are meek yet proud in their meekness and their humbleness. These are they that are poor in spirit. Cayce 262-111
(10:08:30) (Lynn) Thankyou, Amen-Ta
(10:08:41) (Bill) TY Amen-Ta saved me searching it out
(10:08:47) (Lynn) U have a question, Amen?
(10:08:50) (Blu) very good
(10:09:05) (Lynn) I have a queston for you
(10:09:09) (Lynn) I mean to say
(10:09:13) (MaryAnne) Thank you AT
(10:09:16) (Lynn) May I ask you a question, Amen?
(10:09:36) (Amen-Ta) You may ask.
(10:09:40) (Lynn) How can one be proud in meekness and humbleness. Please help me to understand.
(10:10:18) (Amen-Ta) Proud of their stature within God.
(10:10:37) (Lynn) tell me more?
(10:10:51) (Bill) thats is the only time i can find myself proud Lynn anything other i'm expressing ego
(10:10:57) (Lynn) I am interested in what you say, Amen
(10:11:02) (Amen-Ta) As a manifestation of His Will Promted By His Spirit.
(10:11:17) (Amen-Ta) Proud that they have Him Behind them.
(10:11:28) (Lynn) I think I understand. That God could take someone like me, and use me for his glory.
(10:11:33) (Lynn) Is that it, Amen?
(10:11:36) (ernie) in them
(10:11:42) (Amen-Ta) Yes
(10:11:54) (Amen-Ta) And allow Gos to use you is a selfless act.
(10:12:01) (Lynn) that really gives me a lot to think about. Thank you, Amen.
(10:12:09) (Amen-Ta) Allowing His Spirit to do your propmtings.
(10:12:21) (Lynn) I see,
(10:12:58) (Amen-Ta) sdeeking nothing other then to be a Manifestation of His Will, Guided By His Spirit.
(10:12:59) (ernie) talk the talk and walk the said it two diffrent thins faith is key
(10:13:10) (Lynn) How can I be sure it is God and not my ego or Satan? Amen
(10:13:32) (Amen-Ta) weak in the spirit that brings man to death, strong in His Spirit.
(10:13:32) (Lory) Pretty difficult to decipher the difference between His Spirt doing the prompting and the ego urging.
(10:13:33) (Bill) His sirit is within if we listen to our hearts and not react in such a manner as to be concerned about what others may think but doing what we know to be right
(10:13:36) (ernie) lots of us profess that but its for self
(10:13:52) (Amen-Ta) Proud to have answered the Calling.
(10:13:57) (Lynn) Amen, is death as in separation, from friends etc?(10:14:15) (Lynn) that to me is a kind of death, Amen
(10:14:23) (ernie) what we all do know is write and wrong
(10:14:36) (Amen-Ta) Check the Spirits. mThose that acknowledge Jesus as the Messaiah having come in the flesh can be trusted.
(10:14:41) (Amen-Ta) It does work.
(10:14:43) (Bill) yes Ernie we do
(10:14:51) (Lynn) I think God brings us closer to oneness and ego to separateness from others.
(10:14:59) (Lynn) What do you think Amen¿
(10:15:24) (Bill) judge the tree by its fruits is it for the betterment of all mankind or for self gratification
(10:15:34) (Amen-Ta) As Cayce gave the more individuality one looses in doing His Will, njot their own, the more individuality one attains.
(10:15:50) (Lynn) Does God bring separation or oneness, please help me understand, Amen
(10:15:52) (Amen-Ta) Ego separates us from God.
(10:16:03) (Lynn) does ego separate us from others?
(10:16:05) (Amen-Ta) Ego often brings men together.
(10:16:12) (Lynn) please explain
(10:16:13) (Amen-Ta) Not as One.
(10:16:15) (ernie) thats a contrary statement
(10:16:18) (Amen-Ta) But as men.
(10:16:19) (Lynn) I ssee
(10:16:23) (Bill) but it is temporal
(10:16:31) (Amen-Ta) Yes Bill
(10:16:33) (Lynn) but when a group gathers to learn about God, then God brings them together?
(10:16:57) (Lynn) Maybe that will help me understand. Thank you Amen
(10:17:03) (Amen-Ta) When a group gathers Gods Hand has been at work.(10:17:20) (Amen-Ta) Little is by chance.
(10:17:25) (Lynn) What when a group gathers and someone scatters them.
(10:17:37) (Lynn) Amen, when someone brings discord, what then?
(10:17:37) (ernie) nothing
(10:18:02) (Lynn) Should we be patient with others in the group or tell them off?
(10:18:12) (ernie) is by chance everything matters
(10:18:25) (Amen-Ta) Little is by chance.
(10:18:33) (ernie) nothing
(10:19:03) (Lory) What you are then saying that even the discord has a purpose?
(10:19:04) (Amen-Ta) As long as each is doing their honest best, what more can you ask for?
(10:19:15) (ernie) more
(10:19:41) (Bill) it is best for every ones interest that what needs to be said be said then let go and let God
(10:19:41) (Amen-Ta) Everything has a purpose. Yes.
(10:19:51) (Amen-Ta) Yes.
(10:20:03) (Amen-Ta) Start. Fresh every moment.
(10:20:15) (Amen-Ta) Tyhe past juust weighs you down.
(10:20:21) (Lory) Then let us start fresh.
(10:20:30) (Lynn) thank you, Amen. I will think about what you said. I will see you again. I appreciate your helping me patiently. I get scared if I get yelled at. Bye
(10:20:31) (ernie) so one can do wrong and then forgive self
(10:20:34) (Amen-Ta) But, you can learn from it.
(10:20:42) (ernie) thats a good concept
(10:20:53) (Amen-Ta) And should be learnin' atthe time of the interaction.
(10:21:20) (Amen-Ta) One should never sin, for any reason.
(10:21:27) (Amen-Ta) You cannot justify it.
(10:21:39) (Bill) Ernie step back and take a look at self if we are not happy with what we see then something needs to be applied in our lives
(10:21:40) (Lory) Forgiveness is good for the soul. I know for I have to forgive many times and be forgiven as well.
(10:21:43) (Amen-Ta) But you can forgive yourself for making mistakes.
(10:22:07) (Amen-Ta) God judges the inner most recesses of ones heart, He Knows the Truth of All Matters.
(10:22:37) (ernie) thank you bill i understand
(10:22:38) (Amen-Ta) Just try to do your best.
(10:22:52) (Amen-Ta) And if you can't love everyone work on that first.
(10:23:02) (Amen-Ta) You have to love everyone.
(10:23:07) (ernie) its so easy to not to see ones own faults and im talking bout me
(10:23:23) (Bill) Ernie that is universal
(10:23:27) (Amen-Ta) You don't have to love all actions.
(10:23:37) (Amen-Ta) We can judge actions.
(10:23:50) (Amen-Ta) Cayce says it is wise to judge actions.
(10:23:52) (Lory) But to argue that point with someone is futile is it not
(10:23:57) (ernie) but not souls
(10:24:18) (Amen-Ta) So you can say killing is wrong, but you cannot say a killer should not be loved.
(10:24:52) (ernie) thats the exuse he used for killing he wasent loved
(10:25:12) (Amen-Ta) What?????
(10:25:19) (ernie) but yes love him
(10:25:41) (Bill) its an oxymoron we must be able to love self before we can truly love others so it always comes back to applying what we know to be true in our daily lives so we can walk with pride not a faults pride but an honest on knowing we've done our best
(10:26:06) (Amen-Ta) Yes, but you cannot love self if you cannot love everyone as well;.
(10:26:12) (Amen-Ta) Musdt be balance there.
(10:27:16) (Lory) Tough lesson to learn. How many life times must we endure to learn it.?
(10:27:33) (Amen-Ta) As many as it takes.
(10:27:35) (Blu) no more than 19 I hope Lory!
(10:27:41) (Amen-Ta) Best to seek His Will out.
(10:27:49) (Amen-Ta) Do what it takes.
(10:28:02) (Lory) lol Blu. Does that you mean you are in the nineteenth now?
(10:28:22) (Blu) LOL, I don't know how many, just read that number in an article
(10:28:46) (Amen-Ta) 13. (Q) What is meant by the children of light, as just given?
(10:28:58) (Amen-Ta) (A) They that choose to be guided by His will and do not, through themselves, attempt to manifest self rather than the will of the Father.
(10:29:15) (Amen-Ta) Cayce 262-46
(10:29:36) (Blu) There was an article based on the history of the world's population that there could be no more than 19 reincarnation possiblities, but turns out that number was based on an erroneous world population account
(10:29:42) (Bill) i'm willing to step out and say there's no one here with less than a 100 or so lives behind them
(10:29:54) (Amen-Ta) Close Bill
(10:30:00) (Amen-Ta) All are ready.
(10:30:24) (Blu) Rosie is right, we ARE geezers!
(10:30:31) (Amen-Ta) It's a matter of grabbing the bull by the horns during one of your lifetimes.
(10:30:33) (Rosie) :o)
(10:30:54) (Lory) Not my will, but thine O Lord, be done in me and through me. (262-1.)
(10:31:00) (Blu) *Looking around for a Taurus*
(10:31:47) (Amen-Ta) He gave that over a hundred times Lory in various ways.
(10:31:56) (Blu) LOL, yes a friendly Bull is a good one to grab!(10:32:17) (Amen-Ta) yes, grab on to His Spirit.
(10:32:36) (Amen-Ta) Do what ever it takes to fall under the Law of Grace.
(10:32:43) (Amen-Ta) Learning to love all.
(10:32:52) (Amen-Ta) Holding nothing against no one.
(10:33:21) (Lory) Thank you Bill for a great evening. What are your plans after next week? Your lessons are phenomenal.
(10:33:53) (Bill) Lory quess i'll let the spirit move me when the time comes :o)
(10:34:16) (Lory) Good for you. Are you open for suggestions with a little push elsewhere?
(10:34:45) (Blu) You are spirit incarnate Lory
(10:35:11) (Lory) Now Blu, what a nice thing to say.
(10:35:54) (Blu) just a fact, I would add grace incarnte as the complement
(10:36:10) (Bill) Lory any lessons i do will be only with Cayce material
(10:36:38) (Lory) thank you Blu. You are a dear. That's a lot to live up to.
(10:37:07) (Lory) Ah so, Bill. Will get in touch with an idea, OK?
(10:37:19) (Blu) You have done it well Lory
(10:38:29) (Bill) i feel its only fitting we have one evening a wk. set aside for Cayce the rest of the hosts should use Cayce quotes in their materail when it applys for credibility and in keeping with this chat
(10:38:48) (Rosie) and before you bust outta here w/no warning, bill...thanks for the chat and all your hard work {{{hugs}}}
(09:32:53) (Bill) Father, God, in Thy mercy, in Thy love, be Thou with us now. For we know and we speak of Thy love. And help us then to put away, for the hour, the cares of this life; that we may know in truth that the spirit and the lamb say, “Come.” Let them that hear also say “Come.” Let all that will, come and drink of the Water of life. (262-113.) Amen
(09:33:32) (Amen-Ta) Amen
(09:33:35) (Lynn) We come Amen
(09:33:36) (ky-mike) amen
(09:34:00) (Cris) Amen
(09:34:22) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:35:47) (Bill) Introduction: Spirit is FIRST CAUSE, the essence of Creative Power, the source of light and the motivating influence of all life. It is God.
(09:38:17) (Bill) Let us not be confused by terms. What are the relationships among such terms as:
(09:39:01) (Bill) : The spirit of the times, the spirit of the age, the spirit of America, the spirit of “76”, the spirit of the pioneer, the spirit of Fascism, the spirit of the earth, the spirit of the departed, the spirit of the church, the spirit of Truth, the Spirit of the Christ, the SPIRIT OF GOD?
(09:39:08) (Lynn) Bill, slip an o between them and its HoT
(09:39:27) (Amen-Ta) Hello torontal
(09:39:36) (Rosie) ummmm..spirit??
(09:39:37) (Bill) It has been given that there is One Spirit. All manifestations of life, in any plane of consciousness are crystallizations of Spirit.
(09:39:37) (Lynn) Shall I expatiate? I thought not.
(09:40:16) (Bill) When man, through exercising free will, chooses to misdirect and divert this power into selfish channels of personal aggrandizement, rather than toward the expression of its original impulse, the glorification of the Creator, then sin comes into existence.
(09:40:47) (Bill) The spirit of the pioneer need not signify cruelty and destruction nor the spirit of strife and hate, but spirit beings encased in the physical seeking freedom as an ideal. All force is one force. It is man who brought diversity of expression and perception, and man through the Way must return to unity.
(09:41:23) (Bill) . “Get thee behind me, Satan:. . . for thou savourest not the things that be of God (the Spirit), but those that be of men.” (Matt.16:23.) These words were spoken by Jesus, when two ways were before him: self-glory, or the glory of God.
(09:41:55) (Bill) We must understand why and how Spirit came into material manifestation. Where did we come from?
(09:42:18) (Bill) “. . . we must know from whence we came, how, why, and whence we go ~~ and why.” (262-114.)
(09:42:42) (Bill) IN THE BEGINNING God created man in His image, a spiritual being, with soul, mind and will. In all states of consciousness there are opportunities for the expression of these.
(09:43:21) (Bill) Error came into existence before the earth, the heavens, or space were created. Using free will, expressing selfish desire, spiritual beings (souls) separated themselves from a consciousness of Oneness with Creative Will. Life, in material bodies, is the reflections of the separation in this state of consciousness.
(09:44:05) (Bill) Through the law of love, God prepared a way back (a road, a ladder, a knotted rope) for all mankind. Until this way was prepared there was no consciousness of time or space. These concepts are aids not hindrances, to a clearer perception of the Divine Will; for through time and space, and patience, man will come to know the Lighted Path.
(09:44:47) (Bill) Only those who seek may find this way. Flesh and blood may not reveal the truth to us. It is the quickening of the Divine Spirit within which brings each personal revelation.
(09:45:19) (Bill) MAN’S PROJECTION: The sons of God became the sons of men, as they sought selfish expression into the earth plane. They pushed themselves into matter, upsetting existent patterns of evolution going on in the earth; first, as forces seeking expression through the natural elements of mineral, plan and animal life, then, as hardened thought forms molded after the pattern of animal life in the earth.
(09:46:05) (Bill) In these thought forms spiritual beings became entangled. They lost the consciousness of their Divine origin. Monstrosities resulted. There was chaos. The darkness which existed is beyond the comprehension of the finite mind. The earth plane was only a three-dimensional point of expression for the chaotic state which existed.
(09:46:49) (Bill) GOD’S PROJECTION: Out of this mire of selfish thought, this morass of illusion, God prepared a way through the law of love. He said, “Let there be light.
(09:47:18) (Bill) .” Let there be the consciousness of time and space. The evening and the morning were the first day, a day of light and darkness, of good and evil. Step by step spiritual beings became aware that they were away from god, from Light.
(09:47:58) (Bill) Jesus, as the first Adam, became the symbol of the regenerated spiritual beings returning to God Consciousness. He came showing the way of patience by which man (spiritual man) was to recognize His state and turn toward the light.
(09:48:23) (Bill) The law of One was manifested eventually in the man Jesus, and is signified in the Christ Consciousness. (Let us get the difference.)
(09:48:53) (Bill) Adam and Eve, God’s projection, began a line of physical descent through which spiritual beings could purify their desires, and return to God Consciousness. This is the true source of the legends of the chosen race, the pure race, preserved in the legends of the peoples of every continent.
(09:49:34) (Bill) In the early days spiritual beings who used these Adamic bodies were tempted and many gave way to desire. “. . . the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.” (Gen. 6:2. See Gen. 4:16-17.)
(09:50:09) (Bill) I beleive Roz gave us this lesson
(09:50:26) (Roz) yup I did
(09:51:09) (Bill) Through the example set by the Christ, man knows the way. The choice is made daily by each soul to follow the Light or seek selfish gratification.
(09:51:55) (Bill) Now, as in the beginning, each individual is meeting himself. When he acts without thought as to motive or purpose, experiences result which may bring ease and comforts for a time, but when his activities are selfish indulgences and suppressions of his fellowman, he will reap that which he has sown.(09:52:53) (Bill) As we were created for companionship with the Father, being a portion of First Cause, it behooves us in materiality to manifest more and more our awareness of this relationship in our mental, physical and spiritual bodies.
(09:54:20) (Bill) We must fulfill the purpose for which we came into the earth plane, that is, to be again one with the Father, which is attained through the Christ Consciousness. Therefore, through the power of the Christ, who has walked the path from the beginning, we will come to know ourselves to be ourselves, yet one with and part of, the whole, yet not the Whole. That is the purpose, that is the cause, of BEING.
(09:55:22) (Bill) We can stop now or do another page or so what would you like?
(09:55:45) (ernie) more
(09:55:54) (MaryAnne) Yes, please, more
(09:55:57) (Roz) youre the boss
(09:56:17) (Bill) don't wish to give overload here :o)
(09:56:19) (ernie) who me ?cool i lkike being boss
(09:56:26) (Rosie) please sir, may I have some more? ;o)
(09:56:34) (ernie) lol
(09:56:36) (Bill) okay we'll go a little more
(09:56:40) (Lory) We are almost finished with lesson No. 12 and the book no. 2 aren't we Bill?
(09:57:34) (Lory) What do you have planned for next week?
(09:57:41) (Bill) TIME, SPACE and PATIENCE:
(09:57:56) (Bill) we'll finish lesson 12 next wk.
(09:58:19) (Lory) Ah, so.
(09:58:28) (Bill) The Spirit of God in material understanding is Time, Space and Patience.
(09:58:44) (Bill) . While they are only literal terms to the consciousness of the finite mind, they are a part of experience in materiality and should be considered as attributes of Creative Force. In understanding time, we better understand God. No other concept can bring such a consciousness of unity as an inner flash of the universality of time.
(10:00:03) (Bill) Every day is the beginning and the ending of a new opportunity Every opportunity has its beginning and end, thus making way for greater physical manifestation of spiritual ideals. Every new experience is another Garden of Eden into which we have moved.
(10:00:25) (Lory) I like that concept.
(10:00:53) (Bill) Every day is the awareness of the evening and the morning being the first day. To remain in Eden or to be driven out depends upon ourselves as to how we use our power of choice. Every moment we are just beginning to live. We are never too old to begin, if we remember that in our weakness we may be strong in Christ.
(10:01:34) (Bill) God is reflected in our concept of space. In the vastness of space our self-conceit falters. We are humblest when gazing at the stars. We draw nearer to God in contemplation of the immensity of the universe.
(10:01:54) (ernie) Amen bill
(10:02:03) (Bill) isn't that the truth
(10:02:14) (Bill) The goodness and mercy of God are shown most in patience. To be patient is God-like; for patience is a spiritual force which may be given material expression through our attitude toward our fellowman. Jesus said that in patience we come to possess our souls.
(10:02:38) (ernie) cool
(10:02:48) (Bill) We become aware of the continuity of life as we are patient. As a finite being, man can express no more God-like quality than patience.
(10:03:20) (Bill) Time, space and patience are three concepts which contain the keys to spiritual development in this three-dimensional plane. Without them fallen man is not aware of being away from God. They are the eye openers, the Voice of God speaking in the burning bush, day unto day uttering speech, night unto night showing knowledge:. (Rephrasing of Ps. 19:2.)
(10:04:10) (Bill) Using time and space and patience we measure everything, physical, mental and spiritual. When we begin to catch a glimpse of the fact that all space exists in time, that all time is one, that all force is one, that all force is God, we will be getting back to the Oneness of which Christ was speaking when He said that He would be in the Father and we would be in Him. This realization comes to us only in patience.
(10:04:43) (Lory) But so hard to do.
(10:06:59) (Bill) Okay thats enough we can now disscuss anything you'd like or call it an evening but first I'd like Amen-Ta to post the answer to a question many had last wk. about poor in spirit
(10:07:32) (Amen-Ta) 16. (Q) Please explain "Happy are the poor in spirit, for they shall see God." Who are the poor in spirit?
(10:07:39) (Bill) most of us here were at a lost for a good explanation but Amen found the quote for us
(10:07:48) (Amen-Ta) A) They that have not allowed and do not allow themselves to be directed by other influences than that of Godly-Force itself. They that are not acquainted with the familiar spirits but with the Divine. They that are meek yet proud in their meekness and their humbleness. These are they that are poor in spirit. Cayce 262-111
(10:08:30) (Lynn) Thankyou, Amen-Ta
(10:08:41) (Bill) TY Amen-Ta saved me searching it out
(10:08:47) (Lynn) U have a question, Amen?
(10:08:50) (Blu) very good
(10:09:05) (Lynn) I have a queston for you
(10:09:09) (Lynn) I mean to say
(10:09:13) (MaryAnne) Thank you AT
(10:09:16) (Lynn) May I ask you a question, Amen?
(10:09:36) (Amen-Ta) You may ask.
(10:09:40) (Lynn) How can one be proud in meekness and humbleness. Please help me to understand.
(10:10:18) (Amen-Ta) Proud of their stature within God.
(10:10:37) (Lynn) tell me more?
(10:10:51) (Bill) thats is the only time i can find myself proud Lynn anything other i'm expressing ego
(10:10:57) (Lynn) I am interested in what you say, Amen
(10:11:02) (Amen-Ta) As a manifestation of His Will Promted By His Spirit.
(10:11:17) (Amen-Ta) Proud that they have Him Behind them.
(10:11:28) (Lynn) I think I understand. That God could take someone like me, and use me for his glory.
(10:11:33) (Lynn) Is that it, Amen?
(10:11:36) (ernie) in them
(10:11:42) (Amen-Ta) Yes
(10:11:54) (Amen-Ta) And allow Gos to use you is a selfless act.
(10:12:01) (Lynn) that really gives me a lot to think about. Thank you, Amen.
(10:12:09) (Amen-Ta) Allowing His Spirit to do your propmtings.
(10:12:21) (Lynn) I see,
(10:12:58) (Amen-Ta) sdeeking nothing other then to be a Manifestation of His Will, Guided By His Spirit.
(10:12:59) (ernie) talk the talk and walk the said it two diffrent thins faith is key
(10:13:10) (Lynn) How can I be sure it is God and not my ego or Satan? Amen
(10:13:32) (Amen-Ta) weak in the spirit that brings man to death, strong in His Spirit.
(10:13:32) (Lory) Pretty difficult to decipher the difference between His Spirt doing the prompting and the ego urging.
(10:13:33) (Bill) His sirit is within if we listen to our hearts and not react in such a manner as to be concerned about what others may think but doing what we know to be right
(10:13:36) (ernie) lots of us profess that but its for self
(10:13:52) (Amen-Ta) Proud to have answered the Calling.
(10:13:57) (Lynn) Amen, is death as in separation, from friends etc?(10:14:15) (Lynn) that to me is a kind of death, Amen
(10:14:23) (ernie) what we all do know is write and wrong
(10:14:36) (Amen-Ta) Check the Spirits. mThose that acknowledge Jesus as the Messaiah having come in the flesh can be trusted.
(10:14:41) (Amen-Ta) It does work.
(10:14:43) (Bill) yes Ernie we do
(10:14:51) (Lynn) I think God brings us closer to oneness and ego to separateness from others.
(10:14:59) (Lynn) What do you think Amen¿
(10:15:24) (Bill) judge the tree by its fruits is it for the betterment of all mankind or for self gratification
(10:15:34) (Amen-Ta) As Cayce gave the more individuality one looses in doing His Will, njot their own, the more individuality one attains.
(10:15:50) (Lynn) Does God bring separation or oneness, please help me understand, Amen
(10:15:52) (Amen-Ta) Ego separates us from God.
(10:16:03) (Lynn) does ego separate us from others?
(10:16:05) (Amen-Ta) Ego often brings men together.
(10:16:12) (Lynn) please explain
(10:16:13) (Amen-Ta) Not as One.
(10:16:15) (ernie) thats a contrary statement
(10:16:18) (Amen-Ta) But as men.
(10:16:19) (Lynn) I ssee
(10:16:23) (Bill) but it is temporal
(10:16:31) (Amen-Ta) Yes Bill
(10:16:33) (Lynn) but when a group gathers to learn about God, then God brings them together?
(10:16:57) (Lynn) Maybe that will help me understand. Thank you Amen
(10:17:03) (Amen-Ta) When a group gathers Gods Hand has been at work.(10:17:20) (Amen-Ta) Little is by chance.
(10:17:25) (Lynn) What when a group gathers and someone scatters them.
(10:17:37) (Lynn) Amen, when someone brings discord, what then?
(10:17:37) (ernie) nothing
(10:18:02) (Lynn) Should we be patient with others in the group or tell them off?
(10:18:12) (ernie) is by chance everything matters
(10:18:25) (Amen-Ta) Little is by chance.
(10:18:33) (ernie) nothing
(10:19:03) (Lory) What you are then saying that even the discord has a purpose?
(10:19:04) (Amen-Ta) As long as each is doing their honest best, what more can you ask for?
(10:19:15) (ernie) more
(10:19:41) (Bill) it is best for every ones interest that what needs to be said be said then let go and let God
(10:19:41) (Amen-Ta) Everything has a purpose. Yes.
(10:19:51) (Amen-Ta) Yes.
(10:20:03) (Amen-Ta) Start. Fresh every moment.
(10:20:15) (Amen-Ta) Tyhe past juust weighs you down.
(10:20:21) (Lory) Then let us start fresh.
(10:20:30) (Lynn) thank you, Amen. I will think about what you said. I will see you again. I appreciate your helping me patiently. I get scared if I get yelled at. Bye
(10:20:31) (ernie) so one can do wrong and then forgive self
(10:20:34) (Amen-Ta) But, you can learn from it.
(10:20:42) (ernie) thats a good concept
(10:20:53) (Amen-Ta) And should be learnin' atthe time of the interaction.
(10:21:20) (Amen-Ta) One should never sin, for any reason.
(10:21:27) (Amen-Ta) You cannot justify it.
(10:21:39) (Bill) Ernie step back and take a look at self if we are not happy with what we see then something needs to be applied in our lives
(10:21:40) (Lory) Forgiveness is good for the soul. I know for I have to forgive many times and be forgiven as well.
(10:21:43) (Amen-Ta) But you can forgive yourself for making mistakes.
(10:22:07) (Amen-Ta) God judges the inner most recesses of ones heart, He Knows the Truth of All Matters.
(10:22:37) (ernie) thank you bill i understand
(10:22:38) (Amen-Ta) Just try to do your best.
(10:22:52) (Amen-Ta) And if you can't love everyone work on that first.
(10:23:02) (Amen-Ta) You have to love everyone.
(10:23:07) (ernie) its so easy to not to see ones own faults and im talking bout me
(10:23:23) (Bill) Ernie that is universal
(10:23:27) (Amen-Ta) You don't have to love all actions.
(10:23:37) (Amen-Ta) We can judge actions.
(10:23:50) (Amen-Ta) Cayce says it is wise to judge actions.
(10:23:52) (Lory) But to argue that point with someone is futile is it not
(10:23:57) (ernie) but not souls
(10:24:18) (Amen-Ta) So you can say killing is wrong, but you cannot say a killer should not be loved.
(10:24:52) (ernie) thats the exuse he used for killing he wasent loved
(10:25:12) (Amen-Ta) What?????
(10:25:19) (ernie) but yes love him
(10:25:41) (Bill) its an oxymoron we must be able to love self before we can truly love others so it always comes back to applying what we know to be true in our daily lives so we can walk with pride not a faults pride but an honest on knowing we've done our best
(10:26:06) (Amen-Ta) Yes, but you cannot love self if you cannot love everyone as well;.
(10:26:12) (Amen-Ta) Musdt be balance there.
(10:27:16) (Lory) Tough lesson to learn. How many life times must we endure to learn it.?
(10:27:33) (Amen-Ta) As many as it takes.
(10:27:35) (Blu) no more than 19 I hope Lory!
(10:27:41) (Amen-Ta) Best to seek His Will out.
(10:27:49) (Amen-Ta) Do what it takes.
(10:28:02) (Lory) lol Blu. Does that you mean you are in the nineteenth now?
(10:28:22) (Blu) LOL, I don't know how many, just read that number in an article
(10:28:46) (Amen-Ta) 13. (Q) What is meant by the children of light, as just given?
(10:28:58) (Amen-Ta) (A) They that choose to be guided by His will and do not, through themselves, attempt to manifest self rather than the will of the Father.
(10:29:15) (Amen-Ta) Cayce 262-46
(10:29:36) (Blu) There was an article based on the history of the world's population that there could be no more than 19 reincarnation possiblities, but turns out that number was based on an erroneous world population account
(10:29:42) (Bill) i'm willing to step out and say there's no one here with less than a 100 or so lives behind them
(10:29:54) (Amen-Ta) Close Bill
(10:30:00) (Amen-Ta) All are ready.
(10:30:24) (Blu) Rosie is right, we ARE geezers!
(10:30:31) (Amen-Ta) It's a matter of grabbing the bull by the horns during one of your lifetimes.
(10:30:33) (Rosie) :o)
(10:30:54) (Lory) Not my will, but thine O Lord, be done in me and through me. (262-1.)
(10:31:00) (Blu) *Looking around for a Taurus*
(10:31:47) (Amen-Ta) He gave that over a hundred times Lory in various ways.
(10:31:56) (Blu) LOL, yes a friendly Bull is a good one to grab!(10:32:17) (Amen-Ta) yes, grab on to His Spirit.
(10:32:36) (Amen-Ta) Do what ever it takes to fall under the Law of Grace.
(10:32:43) (Amen-Ta) Learning to love all.
(10:32:52) (Amen-Ta) Holding nothing against no one.
(10:33:21) (Lory) Thank you Bill for a great evening. What are your plans after next week? Your lessons are phenomenal.
(10:33:53) (Bill) Lory quess i'll let the spirit move me when the time comes :o)
(10:34:16) (Lory) Good for you. Are you open for suggestions with a little push elsewhere?
(10:34:45) (Blu) You are spirit incarnate Lory
(10:35:11) (Lory) Now Blu, what a nice thing to say.
(10:35:54) (Blu) just a fact, I would add grace incarnte as the complement
(10:36:10) (Bill) Lory any lessons i do will be only with Cayce material
(10:36:38) (Lory) thank you Blu. You are a dear. That's a lot to live up to.
(10:37:07) (Lory) Ah so, Bill. Will get in touch with an idea, OK?
(10:37:19) (Blu) You have done it well Lory
(10:38:29) (Bill) i feel its only fitting we have one evening a wk. set aside for Cayce the rest of the hosts should use Cayce quotes in their materail when it applys for credibility and in keeping with this chat
(10:38:48) (Rosie) and before you bust outta here w/no warning, bill...thanks for the chat and all your hard work {{{hugs}}}
