Post by WalksInSpirit on Mar 27, 2006 22:54:50 GMT -5
Search For God - Book Two Study: 03-27-06
Lesson Two: "Day And Night"
(09:29:07) (Bill) DAY and NIGHT ~~ Affirmation: In Thy mercies, O Heavenly Father, Wilt Thou be the guide In the study of the manifestations Of Thy love, even as in “Day unto day uttereth speech and Night unto night sheweth knowledge.” So may the activities of my life, As a representative of Thy love, Be a manifestation in the earth. (262-54.) Amen
(09:29:13) (Cris) Amen
(09:29:25) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:29:46) (Erodicus) Make It So Father
(09:29:59) (Me) Amen
(09:30:10) (Lory) So may it be.
(09:30:11) (torontal) amen
(09:30:47) (Bill) Introduction ~~ Day and night are relative in relation to the earth. Viewed from an outer sphere, there would be only different shades of light and darkness as the earth moves about the sun. Conditions that exist in the material plane are but shadows of truth in the mental and spiritual planes.
(09:32:11) (Bill) “… and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light day, and the darkness he called night.” (Gen. 1:4-5.) Thus day and night are figures of speech, spiritual symbols of good and evil.
(09:32:31) (Bill) . Day is facing towards the source of light, which, to those who seek to do His biddings, is the Voice, the Word, the Life, the Light, that comes into the hearts, minds, souls of all to awaken them to their relationship to the source of Light. Night is facing away from the source of Light.
(09:33:04) (Bill) In the mental, night is the knowledge that the soul is out of harmony with God; day is the first period of awareness of a way back to the source of all power.
(09:33:17) (Bill) In a figurative sense, day and night represent periods of growth and of recuperation ~~ in the earth, the activities of a day and a night of rest.
(09:33:36) (Bill) Why the Creation of the World? ~~ All souls were created in the beginning. This beginning refers not to the earth, but the universe. “Let us make man in our image . . . “ (Gen. 1:26.) is a description of a spiritual creation, for God is Spirit.
(09:33:55) (Bill) . “. . . and there was not a man to till the ground . . . And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” (Gen. 2:5, 7.). This was the second creation.
(09:34:21) (Bill) “. . . all souls in the beginning were one with the Father. The separation or tuning away brought evil. Then there became the necessity of the awareness of self’s being out of accord with or out of the realm of blessedness
(09:34:27) (Lory) Imagine, two creations. Never crossed my mind before.
(09:34:42) (Bill) . . . By becoming aware in a material world is ~~ or was ~~ the only manner or way through which spiritual forces might become aware of their separation from the spiritual atmosphere, the spiritual surrounds, of the Maker.” (262-56.)
(09:35:13) (Bill) So in passing through our various experiences, even as He, the first Adam, our soul becomes aware of its separation from its Creator. As the nature of our relationship to our Maker grows clearer, we begin to walk more and more in the Light in our physical experiences. We came here for this purpose.
(09:35:21) (Roz) Genesis accounts of 2 also
(09:35:46) (Bill) Through experience, through suffering, we come to know day and night, light and darkness, good and evil, even as the Son, the Adam. “Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience the things which He suffered.” (Heb. 5:8.). Finally, we recognize that we are on our way back to our source. This alone brings satisfaction to our souls.
(09:36:25) (Bill) Day unto Day Uttereth Speech ~~ Today is the day of opportunity. Each span of life is just another extended opportunity for light to break forth within us. We are enjoined to use that which we have in hand, and are then promised that our needs for further development will be supplied. A God of love waits for the awakening of each soul.
(09:37:04) (Bill) A majority of us devote the activities of a day to supplying ourselves and others with the material things of earth. Bread, shelter, clothing must be provided in proportion to the life pattern which we have builded. These things and the luxuries which seem necessary for the body’s welfare cannot be made the ideals motivating our daily activities.
(09:37:36) (Bill) “But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and His righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.” (Matt. 6:33.) What things? That which we need for peace and contentment. That which we need for spiritual growth. These will be added as we fill our days with activities motivated by Truth, Life and Light.
(09:38:09) (Bill) Would we have Light? Then turn within. Let us find the answer to the problem that is keeping us in the dark. Let us judge no one, not even self, but study to know how we are using the knowledge, the understanding, and the opportunities that have been given us.
(09:38:37) (Bill) “For, each individual must so live each day that he may look into the face of that he has spoken, that he has lived, and say: ‘By this I stand to be judged before myself, before my God.’ “ (257-123.)
(09:39:02) (Bill) It is well that we take stock of ourselves to see if we are advancing or retarding our own growth. Are all our plans in keeping with that He would guide us to do, or in keeping with our own desires? Do we love material things of the world more than the praise of God?
(09:39:42) (Bill) ? Then know that in the way we go is the means for a better understanding or a serious retardment. Remember, the mental is the builder, the spiritual is the guide or the life, the conditions built in material things are the results. While there may come the pleasures of those things of the season, the step by step should be for each of us,
(09:40:05) (Bill) , “I show, in my relations to my fellowman, in my conversation, and in my deeds, that which I consider to be the relationship to my Maker.” (See 257-123.)
(09:40:32) (Bill) Let us face the question. Do material possessions prevent spiritual growth? The answer must be determined by each individual for himself. An examination of attitudes about material things, a critical study of personal ideals relating to possessions, will provide the solution.
(09:40:58) (Bill) . Greed and selfishness over a loaf of bread can be as damaging as pride and avarice over great wealth. There must come to every soul the experience of both great poverty and great wealth. In eternity there is plenty of what we call time for both.
(09:41:37) (Bill) When we pass out of the body from the activities in material things, what carries on? Is it not that which we have built within ourselves through constructive or destructive forces? Then, if our activity is as boundless as eternity, let our steps be in the way of Light, that these may bring, not only to us, but to those who follow after, those things that make for better understanding of what life is.
(09:41:53) (merri) hmmmm wonder when the great wealth kicks in
(09:49:40) (Bill) since we chose to separate ourselves God in His love for us created this form for us to over come the earth and work our way back
(09:50:10) (Me) entrapment
(09:50:16) (Erodicus) Consciousness meaning awareness of self
(09:50:16) (Me) ?
(09:50:16) (Lory) Especially with the separation of the old and new testaments and their stories handed down from generation to generation.
(09:50:21) (Rosie) *sings* Workin' my way back to you babe, with a burnin' love inside
(09:50:32) (Rosie) I'm SURE that's what the song meant :o)
(09:50:47) (Gordito) Movement of That Which Gives Rise To Form.
(09:51:08) (Me) (((Rosie ))))
(09:51:20) (Bill) Me darkness is man selfish behavior
(09:51:32) (Erodicus) manifestation in the physical
(09:51:41) (ron) darkness is also sleep before creation
(09:51:58) (Cheryl) lol, Rosie I hear dat
(09:52:28) (Gordito) God Is Light, In Him their is no darkness at all.
(09:52:34) (Rosie) if we just treat each person we encounter like we would like to be treated, we're back to the light in no time...it's simple, really
(09:53:06) (Gordito) Loving each other onjly provides an opportunity.
(09:53:12) (Gordito) To Receive Grace.
(09:53:20) (Me) God Is Light, In Him their is no darkness at all.,...and all there really is is God?
(09:53:21) (Gordito) That is only step one.
(09:53:31) (Roz) darkness is the unknown
(09:54:00) (ron) darkness is the symbol for the unmanifest state
(09:54:24) (Gordito) I disagree ron.
(09:54:35) (Me) oops
(09:54:36) (Gordito) As Spiritual Imports we are Light.
(09:54:55) (ron) thestae before creaation...but this of course is just one of the interpretation...for the souls turned away thus a separation took place called darkness
(09:54:55) (Gordito) If you mean unmanifeted in the flesh.
(09:55:00) (Roz) the undifferentated energy Ron
(09:55:15) (Gordito) Ifr you mean before we were Created, God Is Light.
(09:55:28) (Bill) .) Thus day and night are figures of speech, spiritual symbols of good and evil.
(09:55:49) (ron) i'm still in Chapter one of Genesis...first paragraph
(09:56:11) (Me) all souls were Created, in the begaing
(09:56:25) (Rosie) all that really matters is what we do from this point forward....why argue about what went on in the past?
(09:56:28) (Roz) Where is there that God is not Bill?
(09:56:48) (Gordito) Outside ofr Him.
(09:57:03) (Gordito) As Cayce gave where some souls wish to be banished to.
(09:57:19) (Erodicus) Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith ;and that not of yourselves : it is the gift of God:Not of works ,lest any man should boast.
(09:57:20) (ron) thre is nothing outside of God...in Him we live and move and have our being
(09:57:23) (Gordito) all here is of His Mind.
(09:57:37) (Me) left a peice of wood and i'am there?
(09:57:43) (Gordito) There is that outside of Him.
(09:57:57) (Gordito) Not here.
(09:58:01) (Bill) Roz since we are given free rein couldn't some of our choices be out side of God or at least God's will
(09:58:02) (Gordito) He Is Here.
(09:58:06) (Gordito) He Is This.
(09:58:39) (Gordito) The body you posses coincides with your will because it Suits Him.
(09:58:51) (Roz) doesnt mean He isnt there we have chosen
(09:59:07) (Gordito) There is outside of God.
(09:59:12) (Gordito) If you Evolve.
(09:59:25) (Gordito) You can choose banishment.
(09:59:38) (Gordito) You need to work your way back first.
(09:59:45) (Gordito) Your all bound here.
(09:59:49) (Me) there is no outside of God,...for we are All with in
(09:59:56) (Gordito) Got to graduate here first.
(10:00:02) (Roz) exackle Me
(10:00:03) (Gordito) Before you can move on.
(10:00:20) (Gordito) Cayce says there is outside bof God.
(10:00:52) (Bill) “. . . all souls in the beginning were one with the Father. The separation or tuning away brought evil. Then there became the necessity of the awareness of self’s being out of accord with or out of the realm of blessedness . . . By becoming aware in a material world is ~~ or was ~~ the only manner or way through which spiritual forces might become aware of their separation from the spiritual atmosphere, the spiritual surrounds, of the Maker.” (262-56.)
(10:02:24) (Me) i think atmosphere, may be a key word
(10:02:51) (Me) spiritual atmosphere
(10:03:02) (Bill) A majority of us devote the activities of a day to supplying ourselves and others with the material things of earth. Bread, shelter, clothing must be provided in proportion to the life pattern which we have builded. These things and the luxuries which seem necessary for the body’s welfare cannot be made the ideals motivating our daily activities. “But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and His righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.”
(10:03:17) (Bill) is every one aware of how this is done ?
(10:03:51) (Lory) All things come through Him.
(10:04:03) (Me) Mind is the buider?
(10:04:25) (Bill) start the day perhaps giving thanks for being on the right side of the grass.
(10:04:28) (ron) all things shall be given to you if you do what?
(10:04:54) (Cheryl) By finding an ideal & by applying it.
(10:05:03) (Lory) grass or grace? Bill
(10:05:06) (Me) give thanks you father
(10:05:10) (Me) ?
(10:05:10) (ron) seek ye first the kingdom of God"
(10:05:26) (Bill) head for work being thankful you have a job and do that job as though your working for God as to be able to aford the luxerys of life
(10:06:36) (Erodicus) Romans 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity ,not willingly ,but by reason of him who has subjected the same in hope ,
(10:06:46) (Gordito) Have faith in serving Gods Will not your own all else will be added to your plate.
(10:06:51) (Cheryl) I was given 3 truths - & told to learn them by becoming these truths,
(10:07:08) (Cheryl) I live - "There is Beauty In Grace...
(10:07:13) (Erodicus) looks like a problem has to be recognized before it can be corrected
(10:07:17) (Bill) grace is the result of living within the Universal Laws set before us Lory abiding in God's will
(10:07:19) (Cheryl) 2nd "There is Truth in Love...
(10:07:30) (Cheryl) 3rd - There is Joy in Peace
(10:07:31) (Gordito) A Servant is well worth His Keep it is written.
(10:08:07) (Cheryl) & by learning & sharing these truths they in deed, return to me, mani-times over. :-D Yee-Hee
(10:09:35) (Lory) Excellent ideal, Cheryl.
(10:09:42) (Bill) conduct your self in your daily tasks with love and you'll be seeking the kingdom bidding His will
(10:10:00) (Me) (((Cheryl ))))
(10:10:15) (Cheryl) & the Friends here, in this Are Chat are my gift. Thank you to you All.
(10:10:36) (Gordito) Giving all power unto Power Itself; all will unto Will Itself. Cayce gave.
(10:10:48) (Me) No!!,...thank you
(10:11:04) (Cheryl) :o) Me
(10:11:47) (Erodicus) psalm 91:1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty
(10:12:06) (Me) Giving all power unto Power Itself; all will unto Will Itself,...what does this mean?
(10:12:19) (Bill) giving all power , another words except where all Power comes from and through be a channel of those blessing
(10:12:26) (Gordito) Giving all power unto God.
(10:12:31) (ron) nothing
(10:12:32) (Gordito) All will unto God.
(10:12:41) (Gordito) Cayce gave it.
(10:12:48) (Erodicus) Isaiah 57:19 I create the fruit of the lips
(10:13:04) (Gordito) He would not have given it had it meant nothing Ron.
(10:13:10) (Gordito) It means everything.
(10:13:37) (ron) ok gordito...ok
(10:14:24) (Cheryl) Giving all words, deeds & thoughts to God. & in attempting to understand his will asking your self WWJD?
(10:14:25) (Gordito) In giving all power unto Power Itself do you Receive Same.
(10:14:28) (Me) sort of like sumentting(SP) to the law to become the law?
(10:14:30) (Bill) many tend to credit themselves for their good fortune know where all things come from and except them humbly
(10:14:45) (Gordito) In giving all will unto Will Itself do you Receive Same.
(10:15:08) (Lory) It appears these lessons have a different meaning for all of us.....Is it any wonder than the translations as written in the Bible could also have different meanings and interprettions for any of us?
(10:15:10) (Gordito) Don't play it off as if it is of little importance ron when it is of all importance.
(10:15:19) (Erodicus) peace Peace to him who is far off ,and to him that is near ,saith the Lord ;and I will heal him
(10:15:28) (Gordito) As within it lie the Key to Overcoming.
(10:15:43) (Bill) Lory every one has their truths and must live them accordingly
(10:15:54) (Gordito) In complience with the Law o you Overcome the law.
(10:16:12) (Gordito) The law that binds you to pain, death, misery, suffering.
(10:16:23) (Roz) and some take A Truth and attempt to make it The Truth
(10:16:23) (ron) but wouldn't God be aware of the expected interpretations?...i should think so...He knows all things in my opinion
(10:16:29) (Bill) cause and effect
(10:16:42) (ron) regardless of translation
(10:16:54) (Me) The law that binds you to pain, death, misery, suffering,....WE DO THERE OUR SELFS
(10:17:02) (Me) OOPS
(10:17:03) (Gordito) Some try to twist the truth to suit their ego.
(10:17:11) (Bill) Ron if that were the case ther would be no free will
(10:17:12) (Gordito) Correct Roz as well you know,
(10:17:15) (ron) speaking of ego
(10:17:34) (Gordito) But as far as what I gave it is black and white.
(10:17:47) (Lory) But ron, that free will comes into play somewhere, does it not?
(10:18:11) (ron) yes lory
(10:18:34) (Roz) yes ron
(10:18:38) (Me) howdy there Bear
(10:18:58) (Bill) God has set Universal Laws in place so there is no need for Him to double quess us the responsibility of our choices lies with us alone
(10:19:21) (Erodicus) Psalm 50:23 Whoso offereth praise glorifieth me :and to him that ordereth his conversation aright will I show the salvation of God
(10:21:51) (Gordito) God knows who is faithful and true.
(10:22:10) (Gordito) You can deceive man....man is easy to deceive....you cannot deceive God.
(10:22:37) (Lory) I believe we are here to learn, Gordito, not to deceive any one.
(10:22:38) (Bill) “For, each individual must so live each day that he may look into the face of that he has spoken, that he has lived, and say: ‘By this I stand to be judged before myself, before my God.’ “ (257-123.)
(10:23:31) (Me) is that what you think Gordito???,>>>>man is easy to deceive.?
(10:23:56) (Gordito) That goes without saying.
(10:24:17) (Me) are we not gods?
(10:24:18) (Gordito) Look how easily mans lower self nature dee4ceives him from lovinbng one another
(10:24:22) (Lory) You are man, Gordito. Can you be deceived?
(10:24:23) (Raleigh) no me
(10:24:29) (Raleigh) there is only 1 god
(10:24:39) (Leon) Please Me Don't even start. Can't people state what they believe w/o 20 questions
(10:24:48) (Gordito) Gods or devils in the making Cayce gave.
(10:24:56) (ron) lol
(10:24:56) (Raleigh) no g
(10:24:59) (Gordito) Depends upon what you do day by day.
(10:25:03) (Raleigh) there is only 1 god
(10:25:17) (Raleigh) lucifer wanted to be a god
(10:25:18) (Raleigh) the
(10:25:20) (Raleigh) not me
(10:25:21) (Leon) Hell, I THINK man is easy to decieve--- so what
(10:25:22) (Gordito) Speaqking of man Raleigh.
(10:26:14) (Me) the decievers?
(10:26:17) (Gordito) I am saying even though there are those here who easily lead others astray God is not so easily deceived that is all.
(10:26:28) (Erodicus) I Samuel 16:7 for the Lord seeth not as man seeth ;for man looketh on the outward appearance ,but the Lord looketh on the heart
(10:26:29) (Bill) It is well that we take stock of ourselves to see if we are advancing or retarding our own growth. Are all our plans in keeping with that He would guide us to do, or in keeping with our own desires?
(10:26:42) (ron) probably from those that do the most talking
(10:26:44) (Gordito) Yes Erodicus
(10:28:02) (Bill) Do we love material things of the world more than the praise of God? Then know that in the way we go is the means for a better understanding or a serious retardment. Remember, the mental is the builder, the spiritual is the guide or the life, the conditions built in material things are the results.
(10:28:25) (Gordito) Knowledge without application often quickly leads to sin Cayce gave.
(10:28:57) (Bill) . While there may come the pleasures of those things of the season, the step by step should be for each of us, “I show, in my relations to my fellowman, in my conversation, and in my deeds, that which I consider to be the relationship to my Maker.” (See 257-123.)
(10:29:16) (Lory) But knowledge must be the right kind of knowledge otherwise the application would be for naught.
(10:29:29) (Me) Gordito,..that would make me sinner of sinners
(10:30:32) (Gordito) The greater the knowledge not applied, in regardsto your soul groeth, the greatervthe injustice to oneself.
(10:30:43) (Erodicus) repent and turn yourselves from all transgressions ;so iniquity shall not be your ruin.for I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth saith the Lord God : wherefore turn yourselves ,and live ye
(10:31:42) (ron) what does nick suggest for a headache?...justs aspirin?
(10:31:43) (Bill) with knowledge comes responsiblity
(10:32:01) (Gordito) Responsibility to apply.
(10:32:02) (Bill) rub your temples
(10:32:22) (Bill) get a chiropractic neck adjustment?
(10:32:31) (Lory) Drink lots of water, ron.
(10:32:36) (Gordito) Yes
(10:32:38) (Gordito) Water
(10:32:48) (Cheryl) Cut a lime in half & rub 1 of the half to your forehead. Place a wash cloth over your eyes so you don't get lime juice into them.
(10:33:00) (ron) lol...bill...i'll end up at the undertakers with some of these suggestions lol
(10:33:10) (Lory) lol ron
(10:33:24) (JohnB) or go to a osteopath nearby you after the treatment do the head and neck excires like Edgar suggested Ron
(10:33:32) (ron) ok...got it...thanks for those suggestions...
(10:33:39) (Bill) well Ron if you get lime juice in your eye you'll froget the headache
(10:33:42) (ron) ok jb
(10:33:44) (Gordito) Press on the spot real hard inbetween yoiut thumb and forefinger where there is pain and hold it for a few minutes.
(10:33:51) (JohnB) is it a tension head aches or what? ron
(10:33:54) (Lory) Those head and neck exercises are terrific, John B. I do them every day, twice a day.
(10:33:54) (Gordito) Your headache will go away.
(10:35:32) (Bill) the reflexology Gordito just gave works as well for headahces
(10:36:36) (ron) lol
(10:37:15) (Gordito) You need to locate the sore spot though and press as hard as you can take and hold it.
(10:37:34) (ron) sore spot...thats something i must think about
(10:37:59) (Gordito) The sore spot inbetween your thumb and forefinger.
(10:38:06) (ron) ok...i understand thank you again and again :)
(10:38:30) (Gordito) Press around till you find it.
(10:40:41) (Lory) Well, we certainly have gotten away from the lesson; however, Bill, it was a great one. Goodnight all.
(10:41:20) (Bill) now your a shiatsu practicianor Ron
(10:42:20) (Erodicus) wealth from gambling quickly disappears;wealth from hard work grows
(10:42:22) (ron) headache creation
(10:43:19) (ron) thanks johnb and others i really appreciate this knowledge...i always wanted to know what to do other than taking an aspirin lol
(10:43:53) (Erodicus) the depths of hell are open to God's knowledge How much more the hearts of all mankind!
(10:45:55) (Erodicus) a true friend is always loyal and a brother is born to help in time of need
(10:46:46) (Bill) When we pass out of the body from the activities in material things, what carries on? Is it not that which we have built within ourselves through constructive or destructive forces? Then, if our activity is as boundless as eternity, let our steps be in the way of Light, that these may bring, not only to us, but to those who follow after, those things that make for better understanding of what life is
(10:47:32) (Erodicus) No one ,regardless of how shrewd or well advised he is ,can stand against the Lord'
(10:47:54) (Bill) . Let us study to show ourselves approved unto our Maker, and not be confused, nor consider that the spiritual or mental life is different from the material, but know that one is the reflection of the other. If we live in the Light, the shadows fall behind. If our face is turned from the Light, there can be nothing in life, in mental and material things, except shadows.
(10:49:00) (Bill) Well as usual its been a pleasure spending my time with each of you this evening Love and Light to all sleep well
(09:29:13) (Cris) Amen
(09:29:25) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:29:46) (Erodicus) Make It So Father
(09:29:59) (Me) Amen
(09:30:10) (Lory) So may it be.
(09:30:11) (torontal) amen
(09:30:47) (Bill) Introduction ~~ Day and night are relative in relation to the earth. Viewed from an outer sphere, there would be only different shades of light and darkness as the earth moves about the sun. Conditions that exist in the material plane are but shadows of truth in the mental and spiritual planes.
(09:32:11) (Bill) “… and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light day, and the darkness he called night.” (Gen. 1:4-5.) Thus day and night are figures of speech, spiritual symbols of good and evil.
(09:32:31) (Bill) . Day is facing towards the source of light, which, to those who seek to do His biddings, is the Voice, the Word, the Life, the Light, that comes into the hearts, minds, souls of all to awaken them to their relationship to the source of Light. Night is facing away from the source of Light.
(09:33:04) (Bill) In the mental, night is the knowledge that the soul is out of harmony with God; day is the first period of awareness of a way back to the source of all power.
(09:33:17) (Bill) In a figurative sense, day and night represent periods of growth and of recuperation ~~ in the earth, the activities of a day and a night of rest.
(09:33:36) (Bill) Why the Creation of the World? ~~ All souls were created in the beginning. This beginning refers not to the earth, but the universe. “Let us make man in our image . . . “ (Gen. 1:26.) is a description of a spiritual creation, for God is Spirit.
(09:33:55) (Bill) . “. . . and there was not a man to till the ground . . . And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” (Gen. 2:5, 7.). This was the second creation.
(09:34:21) (Bill) “. . . all souls in the beginning were one with the Father. The separation or tuning away brought evil. Then there became the necessity of the awareness of self’s being out of accord with or out of the realm of blessedness
(09:34:27) (Lory) Imagine, two creations. Never crossed my mind before.
(09:34:42) (Bill) . . . By becoming aware in a material world is ~~ or was ~~ the only manner or way through which spiritual forces might become aware of their separation from the spiritual atmosphere, the spiritual surrounds, of the Maker.” (262-56.)
(09:35:13) (Bill) So in passing through our various experiences, even as He, the first Adam, our soul becomes aware of its separation from its Creator. As the nature of our relationship to our Maker grows clearer, we begin to walk more and more in the Light in our physical experiences. We came here for this purpose.
(09:35:21) (Roz) Genesis accounts of 2 also
(09:35:46) (Bill) Through experience, through suffering, we come to know day and night, light and darkness, good and evil, even as the Son, the Adam. “Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience the things which He suffered.” (Heb. 5:8.). Finally, we recognize that we are on our way back to our source. This alone brings satisfaction to our souls.
(09:36:25) (Bill) Day unto Day Uttereth Speech ~~ Today is the day of opportunity. Each span of life is just another extended opportunity for light to break forth within us. We are enjoined to use that which we have in hand, and are then promised that our needs for further development will be supplied. A God of love waits for the awakening of each soul.
(09:37:04) (Bill) A majority of us devote the activities of a day to supplying ourselves and others with the material things of earth. Bread, shelter, clothing must be provided in proportion to the life pattern which we have builded. These things and the luxuries which seem necessary for the body’s welfare cannot be made the ideals motivating our daily activities.
(09:37:36) (Bill) “But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and His righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.” (Matt. 6:33.) What things? That which we need for peace and contentment. That which we need for spiritual growth. These will be added as we fill our days with activities motivated by Truth, Life and Light.
(09:38:09) (Bill) Would we have Light? Then turn within. Let us find the answer to the problem that is keeping us in the dark. Let us judge no one, not even self, but study to know how we are using the knowledge, the understanding, and the opportunities that have been given us.
(09:38:37) (Bill) “For, each individual must so live each day that he may look into the face of that he has spoken, that he has lived, and say: ‘By this I stand to be judged before myself, before my God.’ “ (257-123.)
(09:39:02) (Bill) It is well that we take stock of ourselves to see if we are advancing or retarding our own growth. Are all our plans in keeping with that He would guide us to do, or in keeping with our own desires? Do we love material things of the world more than the praise of God?
(09:39:42) (Bill) ? Then know that in the way we go is the means for a better understanding or a serious retardment. Remember, the mental is the builder, the spiritual is the guide or the life, the conditions built in material things are the results. While there may come the pleasures of those things of the season, the step by step should be for each of us,
(09:40:05) (Bill) , “I show, in my relations to my fellowman, in my conversation, and in my deeds, that which I consider to be the relationship to my Maker.” (See 257-123.)
(09:40:32) (Bill) Let us face the question. Do material possessions prevent spiritual growth? The answer must be determined by each individual for himself. An examination of attitudes about material things, a critical study of personal ideals relating to possessions, will provide the solution.
(09:40:58) (Bill) . Greed and selfishness over a loaf of bread can be as damaging as pride and avarice over great wealth. There must come to every soul the experience of both great poverty and great wealth. In eternity there is plenty of what we call time for both.
(09:41:37) (Bill) When we pass out of the body from the activities in material things, what carries on? Is it not that which we have built within ourselves through constructive or destructive forces? Then, if our activity is as boundless as eternity, let our steps be in the way of Light, that these may bring, not only to us, but to those who follow after, those things that make for better understanding of what life is.
(09:41:53) (merri) hmmmm wonder when the great wealth kicks in
(09:49:40) (Bill) since we chose to separate ourselves God in His love for us created this form for us to over come the earth and work our way back
(09:50:10) (Me) entrapment
(09:50:16) (Erodicus) Consciousness meaning awareness of self
(09:50:16) (Me) ?
(09:50:16) (Lory) Especially with the separation of the old and new testaments and their stories handed down from generation to generation.
(09:50:21) (Rosie) *sings* Workin' my way back to you babe, with a burnin' love inside
(09:50:32) (Rosie) I'm SURE that's what the song meant :o)
(09:50:47) (Gordito) Movement of That Which Gives Rise To Form.
(09:51:08) (Me) (((Rosie ))))
(09:51:20) (Bill) Me darkness is man selfish behavior
(09:51:32) (Erodicus) manifestation in the physical
(09:51:41) (ron) darkness is also sleep before creation
(09:51:58) (Cheryl) lol, Rosie I hear dat
(09:52:28) (Gordito) God Is Light, In Him their is no darkness at all.
(09:52:34) (Rosie) if we just treat each person we encounter like we would like to be treated, we're back to the light in no time...it's simple, really
(09:53:06) (Gordito) Loving each other onjly provides an opportunity.
(09:53:12) (Gordito) To Receive Grace.
(09:53:20) (Me) God Is Light, In Him their is no darkness at all.,...and all there really is is God?
(09:53:21) (Gordito) That is only step one.
(09:53:31) (Roz) darkness is the unknown
(09:54:00) (ron) darkness is the symbol for the unmanifest state
(09:54:24) (Gordito) I disagree ron.
(09:54:35) (Me) oops
(09:54:36) (Gordito) As Spiritual Imports we are Light.
(09:54:55) (ron) thestae before creaation...but this of course is just one of the interpretation...for the souls turned away thus a separation took place called darkness
(09:54:55) (Gordito) If you mean unmanifeted in the flesh.
(09:55:00) (Roz) the undifferentated energy Ron
(09:55:15) (Gordito) Ifr you mean before we were Created, God Is Light.
(09:55:28) (Bill) .) Thus day and night are figures of speech, spiritual symbols of good and evil.
(09:55:49) (ron) i'm still in Chapter one of Genesis...first paragraph
(09:56:11) (Me) all souls were Created, in the begaing
(09:56:25) (Rosie) all that really matters is what we do from this point forward....why argue about what went on in the past?
(09:56:28) (Roz) Where is there that God is not Bill?
(09:56:48) (Gordito) Outside ofr Him.
(09:57:03) (Gordito) As Cayce gave where some souls wish to be banished to.
(09:57:19) (Erodicus) Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith ;and that not of yourselves : it is the gift of God:Not of works ,lest any man should boast.
(09:57:20) (ron) thre is nothing outside of God...in Him we live and move and have our being
(09:57:23) (Gordito) all here is of His Mind.
(09:57:37) (Me) left a peice of wood and i'am there?
(09:57:43) (Gordito) There is that outside of Him.
(09:57:57) (Gordito) Not here.
(09:58:01) (Bill) Roz since we are given free rein couldn't some of our choices be out side of God or at least God's will
(09:58:02) (Gordito) He Is Here.
(09:58:06) (Gordito) He Is This.
(09:58:39) (Gordito) The body you posses coincides with your will because it Suits Him.
(09:58:51) (Roz) doesnt mean He isnt there we have chosen
(09:59:07) (Gordito) There is outside of God.
(09:59:12) (Gordito) If you Evolve.
(09:59:25) (Gordito) You can choose banishment.
(09:59:38) (Gordito) You need to work your way back first.
(09:59:45) (Gordito) Your all bound here.
(09:59:49) (Me) there is no outside of God,...for we are All with in
(09:59:56) (Gordito) Got to graduate here first.
(10:00:02) (Roz) exackle Me
(10:00:03) (Gordito) Before you can move on.
(10:00:20) (Gordito) Cayce says there is outside bof God.
(10:00:52) (Bill) “. . . all souls in the beginning were one with the Father. The separation or tuning away brought evil. Then there became the necessity of the awareness of self’s being out of accord with or out of the realm of blessedness . . . By becoming aware in a material world is ~~ or was ~~ the only manner or way through which spiritual forces might become aware of their separation from the spiritual atmosphere, the spiritual surrounds, of the Maker.” (262-56.)
(10:02:24) (Me) i think atmosphere, may be a key word
(10:02:51) (Me) spiritual atmosphere
(10:03:02) (Bill) A majority of us devote the activities of a day to supplying ourselves and others with the material things of earth. Bread, shelter, clothing must be provided in proportion to the life pattern which we have builded. These things and the luxuries which seem necessary for the body’s welfare cannot be made the ideals motivating our daily activities. “But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and His righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.”
(10:03:17) (Bill) is every one aware of how this is done ?
(10:03:51) (Lory) All things come through Him.
(10:04:03) (Me) Mind is the buider?
(10:04:25) (Bill) start the day perhaps giving thanks for being on the right side of the grass.
(10:04:28) (ron) all things shall be given to you if you do what?
(10:04:54) (Cheryl) By finding an ideal & by applying it.
(10:05:03) (Lory) grass or grace? Bill
(10:05:06) (Me) give thanks you father
(10:05:10) (Me) ?
(10:05:10) (ron) seek ye first the kingdom of God"
(10:05:26) (Bill) head for work being thankful you have a job and do that job as though your working for God as to be able to aford the luxerys of life
(10:06:36) (Erodicus) Romans 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity ,not willingly ,but by reason of him who has subjected the same in hope ,
(10:06:46) (Gordito) Have faith in serving Gods Will not your own all else will be added to your plate.
(10:06:51) (Cheryl) I was given 3 truths - & told to learn them by becoming these truths,
(10:07:08) (Cheryl) I live - "There is Beauty In Grace...
(10:07:13) (Erodicus) looks like a problem has to be recognized before it can be corrected
(10:07:17) (Bill) grace is the result of living within the Universal Laws set before us Lory abiding in God's will
(10:07:19) (Cheryl) 2nd "There is Truth in Love...
(10:07:30) (Cheryl) 3rd - There is Joy in Peace
(10:07:31) (Gordito) A Servant is well worth His Keep it is written.
(10:08:07) (Cheryl) & by learning & sharing these truths they in deed, return to me, mani-times over. :-D Yee-Hee
(10:09:35) (Lory) Excellent ideal, Cheryl.
(10:09:42) (Bill) conduct your self in your daily tasks with love and you'll be seeking the kingdom bidding His will
(10:10:00) (Me) (((Cheryl ))))
(10:10:15) (Cheryl) & the Friends here, in this Are Chat are my gift. Thank you to you All.
(10:10:36) (Gordito) Giving all power unto Power Itself; all will unto Will Itself. Cayce gave.
(10:10:48) (Me) No!!,...thank you
(10:11:04) (Cheryl) :o) Me
(10:11:47) (Erodicus) psalm 91:1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty
(10:12:06) (Me) Giving all power unto Power Itself; all will unto Will Itself,...what does this mean?
(10:12:19) (Bill) giving all power , another words except where all Power comes from and through be a channel of those blessing
(10:12:26) (Gordito) Giving all power unto God.
(10:12:31) (ron) nothing
(10:12:32) (Gordito) All will unto God.
(10:12:41) (Gordito) Cayce gave it.
(10:12:48) (Erodicus) Isaiah 57:19 I create the fruit of the lips
(10:13:04) (Gordito) He would not have given it had it meant nothing Ron.
(10:13:10) (Gordito) It means everything.
(10:13:37) (ron) ok gordito...ok
(10:14:24) (Cheryl) Giving all words, deeds & thoughts to God. & in attempting to understand his will asking your self WWJD?
(10:14:25) (Gordito) In giving all power unto Power Itself do you Receive Same.
(10:14:28) (Me) sort of like sumentting(SP) to the law to become the law?
(10:14:30) (Bill) many tend to credit themselves for their good fortune know where all things come from and except them humbly
(10:14:45) (Gordito) In giving all will unto Will Itself do you Receive Same.
(10:15:08) (Lory) It appears these lessons have a different meaning for all of us.....Is it any wonder than the translations as written in the Bible could also have different meanings and interprettions for any of us?
(10:15:10) (Gordito) Don't play it off as if it is of little importance ron when it is of all importance.
(10:15:19) (Erodicus) peace Peace to him who is far off ,and to him that is near ,saith the Lord ;and I will heal him
(10:15:28) (Gordito) As within it lie the Key to Overcoming.
(10:15:43) (Bill) Lory every one has their truths and must live them accordingly
(10:15:54) (Gordito) In complience with the Law o you Overcome the law.
(10:16:12) (Gordito) The law that binds you to pain, death, misery, suffering.
(10:16:23) (Roz) and some take A Truth and attempt to make it The Truth
(10:16:23) (ron) but wouldn't God be aware of the expected interpretations?...i should think so...He knows all things in my opinion
(10:16:29) (Bill) cause and effect
(10:16:42) (ron) regardless of translation
(10:16:54) (Me) The law that binds you to pain, death, misery, suffering,....WE DO THERE OUR SELFS
(10:17:02) (Me) OOPS
(10:17:03) (Gordito) Some try to twist the truth to suit their ego.
(10:17:11) (Bill) Ron if that were the case ther would be no free will
(10:17:12) (Gordito) Correct Roz as well you know,
(10:17:15) (ron) speaking of ego
(10:17:34) (Gordito) But as far as what I gave it is black and white.
(10:17:47) (Lory) But ron, that free will comes into play somewhere, does it not?
(10:18:11) (ron) yes lory
(10:18:34) (Roz) yes ron
(10:18:38) (Me) howdy there Bear
(10:18:58) (Bill) God has set Universal Laws in place so there is no need for Him to double quess us the responsibility of our choices lies with us alone
(10:19:21) (Erodicus) Psalm 50:23 Whoso offereth praise glorifieth me :and to him that ordereth his conversation aright will I show the salvation of God
(10:21:51) (Gordito) God knows who is faithful and true.
(10:22:10) (Gordito) You can deceive man....man is easy to deceive....you cannot deceive God.
(10:22:37) (Lory) I believe we are here to learn, Gordito, not to deceive any one.
(10:22:38) (Bill) “For, each individual must so live each day that he may look into the face of that he has spoken, that he has lived, and say: ‘By this I stand to be judged before myself, before my God.’ “ (257-123.)
(10:23:31) (Me) is that what you think Gordito???,>>>>man is easy to deceive.?
(10:23:56) (Gordito) That goes without saying.
(10:24:17) (Me) are we not gods?
(10:24:18) (Gordito) Look how easily mans lower self nature dee4ceives him from lovinbng one another
(10:24:22) (Lory) You are man, Gordito. Can you be deceived?
(10:24:23) (Raleigh) no me
(10:24:29) (Raleigh) there is only 1 god
(10:24:39) (Leon) Please Me Don't even start. Can't people state what they believe w/o 20 questions
(10:24:48) (Gordito) Gods or devils in the making Cayce gave.
(10:24:56) (ron) lol
(10:24:56) (Raleigh) no g
(10:24:59) (Gordito) Depends upon what you do day by day.
(10:25:03) (Raleigh) there is only 1 god
(10:25:17) (Raleigh) lucifer wanted to be a god
(10:25:18) (Raleigh) the
(10:25:20) (Raleigh) not me
(10:25:21) (Leon) Hell, I THINK man is easy to decieve--- so what
(10:25:22) (Gordito) Speaqking of man Raleigh.
(10:26:14) (Me) the decievers?
(10:26:17) (Gordito) I am saying even though there are those here who easily lead others astray God is not so easily deceived that is all.
(10:26:28) (Erodicus) I Samuel 16:7 for the Lord seeth not as man seeth ;for man looketh on the outward appearance ,but the Lord looketh on the heart
(10:26:29) (Bill) It is well that we take stock of ourselves to see if we are advancing or retarding our own growth. Are all our plans in keeping with that He would guide us to do, or in keeping with our own desires?
(10:26:42) (ron) probably from those that do the most talking
(10:26:44) (Gordito) Yes Erodicus
(10:28:02) (Bill) Do we love material things of the world more than the praise of God? Then know that in the way we go is the means for a better understanding or a serious retardment. Remember, the mental is the builder, the spiritual is the guide or the life, the conditions built in material things are the results.
(10:28:25) (Gordito) Knowledge without application often quickly leads to sin Cayce gave.
(10:28:57) (Bill) . While there may come the pleasures of those things of the season, the step by step should be for each of us, “I show, in my relations to my fellowman, in my conversation, and in my deeds, that which I consider to be the relationship to my Maker.” (See 257-123.)
(10:29:16) (Lory) But knowledge must be the right kind of knowledge otherwise the application would be for naught.
(10:29:29) (Me) Gordito,..that would make me sinner of sinners
(10:30:32) (Gordito) The greater the knowledge not applied, in regardsto your soul groeth, the greatervthe injustice to oneself.
(10:30:43) (Erodicus) repent and turn yourselves from all transgressions ;so iniquity shall not be your ruin.for I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth saith the Lord God : wherefore turn yourselves ,and live ye
(10:31:42) (ron) what does nick suggest for a headache?...justs aspirin?
(10:31:43) (Bill) with knowledge comes responsiblity
(10:32:01) (Gordito) Responsibility to apply.
(10:32:02) (Bill) rub your temples
(10:32:22) (Bill) get a chiropractic neck adjustment?
(10:32:31) (Lory) Drink lots of water, ron.
(10:32:36) (Gordito) Yes
(10:32:38) (Gordito) Water
(10:32:48) (Cheryl) Cut a lime in half & rub 1 of the half to your forehead. Place a wash cloth over your eyes so you don't get lime juice into them.
(10:33:00) (ron) lol...bill...i'll end up at the undertakers with some of these suggestions lol
(10:33:10) (Lory) lol ron
(10:33:24) (JohnB) or go to a osteopath nearby you after the treatment do the head and neck excires like Edgar suggested Ron
(10:33:32) (ron) ok...got it...thanks for those suggestions...
(10:33:39) (Bill) well Ron if you get lime juice in your eye you'll froget the headache
(10:33:42) (ron) ok jb
(10:33:44) (Gordito) Press on the spot real hard inbetween yoiut thumb and forefinger where there is pain and hold it for a few minutes.
(10:33:51) (JohnB) is it a tension head aches or what? ron
(10:33:54) (Lory) Those head and neck exercises are terrific, John B. I do them every day, twice a day.
(10:33:54) (Gordito) Your headache will go away.
(10:35:32) (Bill) the reflexology Gordito just gave works as well for headahces
(10:36:36) (ron) lol
(10:37:15) (Gordito) You need to locate the sore spot though and press as hard as you can take and hold it.
(10:37:34) (ron) sore spot...thats something i must think about
(10:37:59) (Gordito) The sore spot inbetween your thumb and forefinger.
(10:38:06) (ron) ok...i understand thank you again and again :)
(10:38:30) (Gordito) Press around till you find it.
(10:40:41) (Lory) Well, we certainly have gotten away from the lesson; however, Bill, it was a great one. Goodnight all.
(10:41:20) (Bill) now your a shiatsu practicianor Ron
(10:42:20) (Erodicus) wealth from gambling quickly disappears;wealth from hard work grows
(10:42:22) (ron) headache creation
(10:43:19) (ron) thanks johnb and others i really appreciate this knowledge...i always wanted to know what to do other than taking an aspirin lol
(10:43:53) (Erodicus) the depths of hell are open to God's knowledge How much more the hearts of all mankind!
(10:45:55) (Erodicus) a true friend is always loyal and a brother is born to help in time of need
(10:46:46) (Bill) When we pass out of the body from the activities in material things, what carries on? Is it not that which we have built within ourselves through constructive or destructive forces? Then, if our activity is as boundless as eternity, let our steps be in the way of Light, that these may bring, not only to us, but to those who follow after, those things that make for better understanding of what life is
(10:47:32) (Erodicus) No one ,regardless of how shrewd or well advised he is ,can stand against the Lord'
(10:47:54) (Bill) . Let us study to show ourselves approved unto our Maker, and not be confused, nor consider that the spiritual or mental life is different from the material, but know that one is the reflection of the other. If we live in the Light, the shadows fall behind. If our face is turned from the Light, there can be nothing in life, in mental and material things, except shadows.
(10:49:00) (Bill) Well as usual its been a pleasure spending my time with each of you this evening Love and Light to all sleep well
