Post by WalksInSpirit on Apr 16, 2007 21:46:14 GMT -5
Monday Night Chat: 04-16-07
(09:16:04) (AutoGreeter1) The Red Path Chat Room welcomes you to Eula Allen's Trilogy Study, Hosted By GG (Lory).
(09:22:13) (HostGG) Father our God, thank you for the opportunity to meet as this special group learning more of the Cayce channeling. We are grateful for your blessings for this chat room and the chatters. Keep us ever mindful of the needs of others and help us all to be channels of blessings. Amen.
(09:22:26) (Raleigh) Amen
(09:22:33) (merri) Amen
(09:22:34) (~Blu) Amen
(09:22:59) (ron) amen
(09:23:01) (Cris) Amen
(09:23:02) (Roz) Amen
(09:23:13) (~WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:23:17) (HostGG) . . . . .The following was taken from the life reading of Eunice, who at the time of the birth was present as a servant in the Inn:
(09:23:54) (HostGG) "Then, with the looking for the Savior, through the tenets of that new order, [ the Essenes] . . . through the self must be the lineage that were to see and know and hear of this fulfilling of the promise in the day and age and period of the entity's experience.
(09:24:22) (HostGG) "Thus, with all such expectancy there was the betrothal; and then the birth of the son, that to the entity must be one especially endowed with those privileges that were to mean and to bring such an awakening to the people ~~ through the very associations of the entity with Elizabeth, the mother of John, and the friendships with Mary and Joseph . . . that was a part of not only the conversation but the wonderments and the study of the entity . . .
(09:26:36) (HostGG) "The entity ~~ sought greater counsel with Mary, Martha, and those who were closer to the activities, ~~ not only of those who had renounced their relationships with the priests but those who were in the position of keeping alive the order of the Essenes." (1602-4)
(09:28:15) (HostGG) After the birth, fateful times came upon these people; crucifixions, martyrdom, the lions' den, were their everyday expectancy. Their monastery at Qumran was overrun and destroyed; the school of the prophets at Carmel also fell victim to the persecutions.
(09:29:03) (HostGG) They were scattered; many fled to other countries, as mentioned in this life reading:
(09:29:06) (~Blu) That is hard to imagine
(09:29:37) (HostGG) "In the name then Peglar, there came the greater development; yet turmoil was brought following the persecutions, and the entity following those into the Persian land." (2454-3)
(09:30:20) (HostGG) Many of the records of these people were hidden in caves and elsewhere, and were mentioned in the Edgar Cayce readings long before they were discovered in recent years as the Dead Sea Scrolls.
(09:30:47) (HostGG) "Judy lived at this time and was the prophetess and teacher of the maidens chosen to be the channel for His birth. She also labored to preserve these records.
(09:31:15) (~Blu) An amazing lady
(09:31:15) (HostGG) "Judy lived in the days when the Master walked in the earth, but also during His sojourns before and after the return from Egypt.
(09:31:36) (HostGG) "She labored in preserving the records of His activities as a child, as well as those of the wise men, the Essenes." (1472-1)
(09:32:11) (HostGG) "Hence not only the manners of the recording but also the traditions of Egypt, the traditions from India, the conditions and traditions from many of the Persian lands, and from many of the borders about same, became a part of the studies and the seeking of the entity Judy early in the attempts to make, keep and preserve such records.
(09:32:43) (ron) i'd love to read those records
(09:32:47) (HostGG) Hence we find the entity in those periods soon after the Crucifixion not only giving comfort but a better interpretation to the Twelve, to the Holy Women; and understanding as to how Woman was redeemed from a place of obscurity to her place in the activities of the affairs of the race, of the world, of the empire . . . yea, of the home itself." (1472-3)
(09:33:12) (HostGG) I wonder where they could be found. Anyone know?
(09:33:40) (~Blu) The dead sea scrolls?
(09:33:50) (HostGG) "the entity was in that now known as or called the Promised Land, during those periods when there were the preparations of the channels through which the Essenes looked for choice to be made of one, from those who had been consecrated for the service of being the channel, through which He, the Prince of Peace, might come.
(09:34:21) (Raleigh) you relly feel a connect with judy huh blu ?
(09:34:35) (~Blu) Just a lot of respect Ral
(09:34:54) (HostGG) I am assuming ron is referring to the records found mentioned in EC's channeling before the scrolls were ever found, Blu.
(09:35:36) (HostGG) "The entity was in the temple or house of lodgment where the maidens were brought for that consecrated service, and the entity was the third upon the stair when the choice was made of Mary.
(09:35:48) (ron) maybe they are the Dead Sea Scrolls...
(09:36:15) (HostGG) "Hence the entity was closely associated throughout that experience not only with the close followers of the Master, but the entity was also the wife of James ~~ the broth of John, the beloved; the wife of the first of the martyrs for the Christ, the wife of him who brought many of the Romans to the greater interpretation;
(09:36:17) (Raleigh) thats what i see this refers to
(09:36:50) (HostGG) and hence closely associated with especially the wife of Cornelius, as well as the entity who acted with the disciples on the walk to Emmaus; giving then that entitlement there as being among the holy women who sought for the preparations of the Body, as well as those who came with the disciples and the Mother at that first Easter morn." (1981-1)
(09:37:18) (HostGG) "The entity was in the land now called the Promised Land, during those periods when preparations were being made for those entrances, those activities in which there came that Holy One, the man, called Jesus.
(09:37:54) (HostGG) "The entity was then among those that were first chosen, among the twelve maidens that ascended and descended the stairs upon which Mary was chosen.
(09:38:17) (HostGG) "To be sure, the entity was of the Essenes . . . of the household of one Joseph; not of that Joseph that was chosen later, or course, but a kinsman . . . in the direct line from David.
(09:38:46) (HostGG) " . . . (there should be) not just the aggrandizement of a material or earthly or body passion, but that they each must give of their own bodies, their own blood, for such;; that may bring to their consciousness the necessity for a training for such . .
(09:39:04) (HostGG) . . even as thy training in the experience, even as thy fellows in those choices made because of their fitness, thy fitness in body, because of the fitness of thy father and thy mother, their fathers and mothers, during those experiences.
(09:39:30) (HostGG) "And these cry aloud then in thy experiences, in the present, through what may be called eugenics . . . or the preparations for the entrances of souls that make the earth BETTER in the material ways, yea the spiritual ways.
(09:39:51) (HostGG) "For God is not mocked, and whatsoever ye sow, that must ye also reap." (1479-1)
(09:40:16) (HostGG) "[Anna] was in the Promised Land or Palestine, during those periods when preparations were being made by many who . . . [had been instructed] of the spirit for the preparations of the children of men that their bodies might furnish a channel through which the Spirit of the Creative Forces might manifest.
(09:40:43) (HostGG) "The entity was among the mothers who gave themselves in body and in the preparation of those things that had been handed down." (1904-2)
(09:41:12) (HostGG) Mary had fulfilled all things that God had required of her and later fulfilled her physical karma by bearing three other children by man. In bringing perfection by balancing the spiritual, mental and physical in her own activities she made it possible for all women to have that opportunity.
(09:41:48) (HostGG) The chains of transgressions slipped from all womenkind, and from that day forward they have been a guiding influence in the civilizations of the world.
(09:41:53) (Raleigh) i think it interesting that 3 children fullfilled karma /
(09:42:27) (HostGG) Ladies that last sentence refers to us. :-)
(09:42:49) (Raleigh) hmmm
(09:42:56) (~Blu) Kind of over whelming to think in those terms
(09:42:58) (Cris) Physical karma the children she agreed to guide to adulthood
(09:43:05) (HostGG) "[5749-3] GC: You will give at this time a discourse on the subject, 'Angels and Archangels, and How They Help Humanity." You will also answer the questions which will be asked.
(09:43:44) (HostGG) "EC: Yes. With the bringing into creation the manifested forms, there came that which has been, is, and ever will be, the spirit realm and its attributes ~~ designated as angels and archangels. They are the spiritual manifestations in the spirit world of those attributes that the developing forces accredit to the One source,
(09:44:10) (Roz) Earth Angels?
(09:45:01) (merri) spiritual angels
(09:45:02) (HostGG) that may be seen in material planes through the influences that may aid in development of the mental and spiritual forces through an experience ~~ or in the acquiring of knowledge that may aid in the intercourse one with another.
(09:45:36) (Raleigh) i read that scriture says they number in the millions /
(09:45:46) (HostGG) "Then, how do they aid? Under what law do they operate; The divine in its intercourse, influence and manifestation with that which partakes of the same forces as they manifest. Ready for questions:
(09:46:11) (HostGG) "Q-1: Please explain the virgin birth of Jesus, the Christ.
(09:46:42) (HostGG) "A-1: In that there had been the manifestation in the earth of that which completed the cycle for the necessary manifestation in the earth of the holy influence necessary for the sustaining of a backsliding world, there was then that choosing of the influence through which there became manifest
(09:47:03) (HostGG) (in and through those channels that comply with the laws of spiritual forces) that which brought into being the conception, that made for the living influence of the Spirit through the body that became the child Jesus; and through the manifesting of the spirit of the oneness of the Father became a manifestation of the Christ Spirit in material surroundings.
(09:47:32) (HostGG) "Q-2: Explain the law of the line of demarcation between soul and spirit.
(09:47:40) (merri) That is one looooooong sentence!!!
(09:48:07) (HostGG) "A-2: This is one, yet is distinct ~~ even as the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit is one, yet is the manifestation of a force that is capable of manifestation in the varied planes of development. The soul is an individual, individuality, that may grow to be one with, or separate from, the Whole.
(09:48:41) (HostGG) "The spirit is the impelling influence of infinity, or the one creative source, force, that is manifest.
(09:48:59) (HostGG) I shortened up the next one, Merri. :-)
(09:49:28) (HostGG) "Hence we find that in the physical plane we seek soul manifestation as the spirit moves same in activity." (5749-3)
(09:49:59) (HostGG) The following has reference to prior comments for follow up of (5749-7).
(09:50:20) (HostGG) "(5749-7) Mrs. C: You will have before you the entity Thomas Sugrue, present in this room, seeking the life of the Master and its history in the material world. Then you will answer the questions he submits, as I ask them.
(09:51:07) (HostGG) "Mr. C: Yes, we have the entity, Thomas Sugrue; the desires, the purposes for the desire to know the material history of the life of the Master in the material world. Much might be given as to how or why and when there were the purposes that brought about the materialization of Jesus in the flesh.
(09:51:27) (HostGG) "In giving then the history: (See prior reading 5749-7) . . . Then there was the return to Judea and to Capernaum, where dwelt many of those who were later the close companions of the Master.
(09:51:55) (HostGG) "Here, after the period again of presentation at the temple, when there were those questionings among the groups of the leaders, the entity then was sent first again into Egypt for only a short period, and then into India, and then into what is now Persia.
(09:52:23) (HostGG) "Hence in all the ways of the teachers the entity was trained.
(09:52:48) (HostGG) "From Persia he was called to Judea at the death of Joseph, and then into Egypt for the completion of the preparation as a teacher.
(09:53:10) (HostGG) "He was with John, the Messenger, during the portion of the training there in Egypt.
(09:53:31) (HostGG) "Then to Capernaum, Cana, and those periods of the first preparation in the land of the nativity.
(09:53:46) (HostGG) "The rest ye have according to Mark, John, Matthew and Luke; these in their order record most of the material experiences of the Master.
(09:54:01) (HostGG) "Many of the details may be given in the varied fields of the preparation, but these were the experiences. Ready for questions." (5749-7)
(09:54:23) (HostGG) To be Continued . . .
(09:54:38) (HostGG) Unless you would like me to go on..........
(09:56:33) (Cris) This is wonderful text
(09:56:35) (HostGG) (Continued - Reading No. 5749-7)
(09:56:55) (HostGG) Ready for questions:
(09:57:10) (HostGG) "Q-1 Explain the immaculate conception.
(09:57:29) (HostGG) "A-1 As flesh is the activity of the mental being (or the spiritual self and mental being) pushing itself into matter, and as spirit ~~ as He gave ~~ is neither male nor female, they are then both ~~ or one.
(09:57:48) (HostGG) "And when man had reached that period of the full separation from Creative Forces in the spirit, then flesh as man knows it today became in material plane a reality.
(09:58:13) (HostGG) "Then, the immaculate conception is the physical and mental so attuned to spirit as to be quickened by same. Hence the spirit, the soul, of the Master then was brought into being through the accord of the Mother in a materiality that ye know in the earth as conception.
(09:58:52) (HostGG) "Q-2: Explain the relationship of the Wise Men and Jesus' birth.
(09:59:27) (HostGG) "A-2: As indicated by the travels of the Master during the periods of preparation, the whole earth, the whole world looked for, sought the closer understanding. Hence through the efforts of the students of the various phases of experiences of man in the earth, as may be literally interpreted from the first
(09:59:38) (Raleigh) they are both / hmmm
(09:59:53) (HostGG) chapters of Genesis, ye find that those subdued ~~ not that were ruled by, but subdued the understandings of that in the earth ~~ were considered, or were in the position of the wise, or the sages, or the ones that were holy, in body and mind, in accord with high purposes.
(10:00:27) (HostGG) "Hence we find the Wise Men as those that were seekers for the truth, for this happening; and in and through the application of those forces ~~ as ye would term today psychic ~~
(10:00:29) (Raleigh) 'so god is both then i see
(10:00:35) (Raleigh) male and female /
(10:00:49) (HostGG) ~~we find them coming to the place 'where the child was'. Or they were drawn as those that were giving the thanks for this Gift, this expression of a soul seeking to show wayward man back to God.
(10:01:23) (HostGG) "So they represent in the metaphysical sense the three phases of man's experience in materiality: gold, the material; frankincense, the ether or ethereal; myrrh, the healing force as brought with same; or body, mind, soul.
(10:01:54) (HostGG) Cris, is this one of the explanations about the healing power of stones?
(10:02:22) (HostGG) "These were the positions then of the Wise Men in their relationship; or to put into the parlance of the day ~~ they were the encouragement needed for the Mother and those that had nourished, that had cherished this event in the experience of mankind.
(10:03:00) (HostGG) They came during the days of purification, but, to be sure, only after He was purified were they presented to the Child.
(10:03:26) (HostGG) "Q-3: What relation did they have with the later travels of Jesus?
(10:03:53) (HostGG) "A-3: As has just been indicated, they represented then the three phases of man's experience as well as the three phases of the teacher from Egypt, from Persia, from India . . .
(10:04:18) (HostGG) "Q-5: Does the immaculate conception, as explained, concern the coming of Mary to Ann, or Jesus to Mary?
(10:04:47) (HostGG) "A-5: Of Jesus to Mary.
(10:05:05) (HostGG) "Q-6: Was Mary immaculately conceived?
(10:05:27) (HostGG) "A-6: Mary was immaculately conceived.
(10:05:50) (HostGG) "Q-7: How long was the preparation in progress before Mary was chosen?
(10:06:10) (HostGG) "A-7: Three years.
(10:06:57) (HostGG) "Q-8: In what manner was she chosen?
(10:07:16) (HostGG) "A-8: As they walked up the steps.
(10:07:39) (HostGG) "Q-9: Was there any appearance of the angel Gabriel in the home?
(10:07:40) (Raleigh) read what cayce said that looked like sometime /
(10:08:07) (HostGG) "A-9: In the temple when she was chosen, in the home of Elizabeth when she was made aware of the presence by being again in the presence of the messenger or forerunner. Again to Joseph at the time of their union. Again (by Michael) at the time when the edict was given." (5749-7)
(10:08:40) (HostGG) "(1152-3) In that sojourn we find the entity then was, in time, just a year younger than the little Mother who came to the Inn where the entity then was an aid to the parents.
(10:09:05) (HostGG) "And the entity knowing of same through the meetings that were half forbidden by those in the Jewish law and questioned by those in authority for the penal law, there was caused not only the wonderment but ~~
(10:09:05) (Raleigh) i have it here / ill type it up / so neat / brb
(10:09:36) (HostGG) ~~ as seen from the nature of the natural development ~~ a seeking to know. Also the entity felt the emotions of some great thing in the experience of the world about to come to pass.
(10:10:09) (HostGG) "The entity then, in the name Sarapha (or Sara)* [*GD's note: Probably a nickname, since No. 1152-1 gives her name as Jenife. No doubt most people then
(10:11:31) (HostGG) had several names, Jenife may have been the surname. Or one name in Hebraic, another Arabic?], requested that she might aid in the preparation of those quarters to which that Mother-to-be, that father, might come ~~ that were revered by all.
(10:11:57) (HostGG) "For it was well known to the inn-keeper that which had been set by those high superiors or leaders, as to the care that must be given to those as they wended their way to fulfill the needs of an overlord demanding that all register for their contribution to an alien land.
(10:12:17) (HostGG) "Yet as the entity waited, expectant, there was the general rabble; and there were discussions of those that journeyed to Jerusalem for the meetings, as well as to the centers for their taxing-registration, as ye would term in the present.
(10:12:55) (HostGG) "Yet as the entity waited, expectant, there was the general rabble; and there were discussions of those that journeyed to Jerusalem for the meetings, as well as to the centers for their taxing-registration, as ye would term in the present.
(10:13:12) (HostGG) OK that is it for tonight......
(10:13:39) (~Blu) Thank you Lory
(10:13:47) (Raleigh) describe mary chosen /// on the temple steps , those 12 maidens the sun shone that morning , the incense was burning / all bathed in the morning sun / clothed all as in puple and gold / as mary reached the top step the thunder and lightning / the angel led the way / taking the child by the hand to the alter /paraphrase 5749-8 / paraphrased / beautiful i think / ill catch up gg / brb
(10:13:58) (ron) thanks lory
(10:14:30) (starrynite) thank you GG
(10:14:37) (Cris) Thanks Lory
(10:14:41) (~WalksInSpirit) Thank you, Grandmother! Great study!
(10:14:50) (Cris) Yes it was
(10:15:01) (HostGG) You are all welcome. And thanks for coming. I am so hopeful that you all enjoy this as much as I have had getting it ready for you.
(10:15:25) (HostGG) Thank you Ral. That is beautifully described.
(10:17:56) (Raleigh) what a nice class gg tx
(10:45:12) (HostGG) Hey gang, I am tired, so may I say Goodnight Everyone. Sweet Dreams and LOVE to all.
(10:45:13) (~WalksInSpirit) A Grandmother is a Wise WOman of the Tribe
(10:45:23) (~WalksInSpirit) Night Blessings Grandmother!
(10:45:26) (~Blu) Blessings Lory
(10:45:31) (merri) Blessings Lory and TY for the chat
(10:45:36) (~WalksInSpirit) Love you!
(10:45:42) (~WalksInSpirit) Thank you for chat!
(10:45:48) (ron) bye lory
(10:46:07) (HostGG) You're all welcome, God's Blessings.
(09:22:13) (HostGG) Father our God, thank you for the opportunity to meet as this special group learning more of the Cayce channeling. We are grateful for your blessings for this chat room and the chatters. Keep us ever mindful of the needs of others and help us all to be channels of blessings. Amen.
(09:22:26) (Raleigh) Amen
(09:22:33) (merri) Amen
(09:22:34) (~Blu) Amen
(09:22:59) (ron) amen
(09:23:01) (Cris) Amen
(09:23:02) (Roz) Amen
(09:23:13) (~WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:23:17) (HostGG) . . . . .The following was taken from the life reading of Eunice, who at the time of the birth was present as a servant in the Inn:
(09:23:54) (HostGG) "Then, with the looking for the Savior, through the tenets of that new order, [ the Essenes] . . . through the self must be the lineage that were to see and know and hear of this fulfilling of the promise in the day and age and period of the entity's experience.
(09:24:22) (HostGG) "Thus, with all such expectancy there was the betrothal; and then the birth of the son, that to the entity must be one especially endowed with those privileges that were to mean and to bring such an awakening to the people ~~ through the very associations of the entity with Elizabeth, the mother of John, and the friendships with Mary and Joseph . . . that was a part of not only the conversation but the wonderments and the study of the entity . . .
(09:26:36) (HostGG) "The entity ~~ sought greater counsel with Mary, Martha, and those who were closer to the activities, ~~ not only of those who had renounced their relationships with the priests but those who were in the position of keeping alive the order of the Essenes." (1602-4)
(09:28:15) (HostGG) After the birth, fateful times came upon these people; crucifixions, martyrdom, the lions' den, were their everyday expectancy. Their monastery at Qumran was overrun and destroyed; the school of the prophets at Carmel also fell victim to the persecutions.
(09:29:03) (HostGG) They were scattered; many fled to other countries, as mentioned in this life reading:
(09:29:06) (~Blu) That is hard to imagine
(09:29:37) (HostGG) "In the name then Peglar, there came the greater development; yet turmoil was brought following the persecutions, and the entity following those into the Persian land." (2454-3)
(09:30:20) (HostGG) Many of the records of these people were hidden in caves and elsewhere, and were mentioned in the Edgar Cayce readings long before they were discovered in recent years as the Dead Sea Scrolls.
(09:30:47) (HostGG) "Judy lived at this time and was the prophetess and teacher of the maidens chosen to be the channel for His birth. She also labored to preserve these records.
(09:31:15) (~Blu) An amazing lady
(09:31:15) (HostGG) "Judy lived in the days when the Master walked in the earth, but also during His sojourns before and after the return from Egypt.
(09:31:36) (HostGG) "She labored in preserving the records of His activities as a child, as well as those of the wise men, the Essenes." (1472-1)
(09:32:11) (HostGG) "Hence not only the manners of the recording but also the traditions of Egypt, the traditions from India, the conditions and traditions from many of the Persian lands, and from many of the borders about same, became a part of the studies and the seeking of the entity Judy early in the attempts to make, keep and preserve such records.
(09:32:43) (ron) i'd love to read those records
(09:32:47) (HostGG) Hence we find the entity in those periods soon after the Crucifixion not only giving comfort but a better interpretation to the Twelve, to the Holy Women; and understanding as to how Woman was redeemed from a place of obscurity to her place in the activities of the affairs of the race, of the world, of the empire . . . yea, of the home itself." (1472-3)
(09:33:12) (HostGG) I wonder where they could be found. Anyone know?
(09:33:40) (~Blu) The dead sea scrolls?
(09:33:50) (HostGG) "the entity was in that now known as or called the Promised Land, during those periods when there were the preparations of the channels through which the Essenes looked for choice to be made of one, from those who had been consecrated for the service of being the channel, through which He, the Prince of Peace, might come.
(09:34:21) (Raleigh) you relly feel a connect with judy huh blu ?
(09:34:35) (~Blu) Just a lot of respect Ral
(09:34:54) (HostGG) I am assuming ron is referring to the records found mentioned in EC's channeling before the scrolls were ever found, Blu.
(09:35:36) (HostGG) "The entity was in the temple or house of lodgment where the maidens were brought for that consecrated service, and the entity was the third upon the stair when the choice was made of Mary.
(09:35:48) (ron) maybe they are the Dead Sea Scrolls...
(09:36:15) (HostGG) "Hence the entity was closely associated throughout that experience not only with the close followers of the Master, but the entity was also the wife of James ~~ the broth of John, the beloved; the wife of the first of the martyrs for the Christ, the wife of him who brought many of the Romans to the greater interpretation;
(09:36:17) (Raleigh) thats what i see this refers to
(09:36:50) (HostGG) and hence closely associated with especially the wife of Cornelius, as well as the entity who acted with the disciples on the walk to Emmaus; giving then that entitlement there as being among the holy women who sought for the preparations of the Body, as well as those who came with the disciples and the Mother at that first Easter morn." (1981-1)
(09:37:18) (HostGG) "The entity was in the land now called the Promised Land, during those periods when preparations were being made for those entrances, those activities in which there came that Holy One, the man, called Jesus.
(09:37:54) (HostGG) "The entity was then among those that were first chosen, among the twelve maidens that ascended and descended the stairs upon which Mary was chosen.
(09:38:17) (HostGG) "To be sure, the entity was of the Essenes . . . of the household of one Joseph; not of that Joseph that was chosen later, or course, but a kinsman . . . in the direct line from David.
(09:38:46) (HostGG) " . . . (there should be) not just the aggrandizement of a material or earthly or body passion, but that they each must give of their own bodies, their own blood, for such;; that may bring to their consciousness the necessity for a training for such . .
(09:39:04) (HostGG) . . even as thy training in the experience, even as thy fellows in those choices made because of their fitness, thy fitness in body, because of the fitness of thy father and thy mother, their fathers and mothers, during those experiences.
(09:39:30) (HostGG) "And these cry aloud then in thy experiences, in the present, through what may be called eugenics . . . or the preparations for the entrances of souls that make the earth BETTER in the material ways, yea the spiritual ways.
(09:39:51) (HostGG) "For God is not mocked, and whatsoever ye sow, that must ye also reap." (1479-1)
(09:40:16) (HostGG) "[Anna] was in the Promised Land or Palestine, during those periods when preparations were being made by many who . . . [had been instructed] of the spirit for the preparations of the children of men that their bodies might furnish a channel through which the Spirit of the Creative Forces might manifest.
(09:40:43) (HostGG) "The entity was among the mothers who gave themselves in body and in the preparation of those things that had been handed down." (1904-2)
(09:41:12) (HostGG) Mary had fulfilled all things that God had required of her and later fulfilled her physical karma by bearing three other children by man. In bringing perfection by balancing the spiritual, mental and physical in her own activities she made it possible for all women to have that opportunity.
(09:41:48) (HostGG) The chains of transgressions slipped from all womenkind, and from that day forward they have been a guiding influence in the civilizations of the world.
(09:41:53) (Raleigh) i think it interesting that 3 children fullfilled karma /
(09:42:27) (HostGG) Ladies that last sentence refers to us. :-)
(09:42:49) (Raleigh) hmmm
(09:42:56) (~Blu) Kind of over whelming to think in those terms
(09:42:58) (Cris) Physical karma the children she agreed to guide to adulthood
(09:43:05) (HostGG) "[5749-3] GC: You will give at this time a discourse on the subject, 'Angels and Archangels, and How They Help Humanity." You will also answer the questions which will be asked.
(09:43:44) (HostGG) "EC: Yes. With the bringing into creation the manifested forms, there came that which has been, is, and ever will be, the spirit realm and its attributes ~~ designated as angels and archangels. They are the spiritual manifestations in the spirit world of those attributes that the developing forces accredit to the One source,
(09:44:10) (Roz) Earth Angels?
(09:45:01) (merri) spiritual angels
(09:45:02) (HostGG) that may be seen in material planes through the influences that may aid in development of the mental and spiritual forces through an experience ~~ or in the acquiring of knowledge that may aid in the intercourse one with another.
(09:45:36) (Raleigh) i read that scriture says they number in the millions /
(09:45:46) (HostGG) "Then, how do they aid? Under what law do they operate; The divine in its intercourse, influence and manifestation with that which partakes of the same forces as they manifest. Ready for questions:
(09:46:11) (HostGG) "Q-1: Please explain the virgin birth of Jesus, the Christ.
(09:46:42) (HostGG) "A-1: In that there had been the manifestation in the earth of that which completed the cycle for the necessary manifestation in the earth of the holy influence necessary for the sustaining of a backsliding world, there was then that choosing of the influence through which there became manifest
(09:47:03) (HostGG) (in and through those channels that comply with the laws of spiritual forces) that which brought into being the conception, that made for the living influence of the Spirit through the body that became the child Jesus; and through the manifesting of the spirit of the oneness of the Father became a manifestation of the Christ Spirit in material surroundings.
(09:47:32) (HostGG) "Q-2: Explain the law of the line of demarcation between soul and spirit.
(09:47:40) (merri) That is one looooooong sentence!!!
(09:48:07) (HostGG) "A-2: This is one, yet is distinct ~~ even as the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit is one, yet is the manifestation of a force that is capable of manifestation in the varied planes of development. The soul is an individual, individuality, that may grow to be one with, or separate from, the Whole.
(09:48:41) (HostGG) "The spirit is the impelling influence of infinity, or the one creative source, force, that is manifest.
(09:48:59) (HostGG) I shortened up the next one, Merri. :-)
(09:49:28) (HostGG) "Hence we find that in the physical plane we seek soul manifestation as the spirit moves same in activity." (5749-3)
(09:49:59) (HostGG) The following has reference to prior comments for follow up of (5749-7).
(09:50:20) (HostGG) "(5749-7) Mrs. C: You will have before you the entity Thomas Sugrue, present in this room, seeking the life of the Master and its history in the material world. Then you will answer the questions he submits, as I ask them.
(09:51:07) (HostGG) "Mr. C: Yes, we have the entity, Thomas Sugrue; the desires, the purposes for the desire to know the material history of the life of the Master in the material world. Much might be given as to how or why and when there were the purposes that brought about the materialization of Jesus in the flesh.
(09:51:27) (HostGG) "In giving then the history: (See prior reading 5749-7) . . . Then there was the return to Judea and to Capernaum, where dwelt many of those who were later the close companions of the Master.
(09:51:55) (HostGG) "Here, after the period again of presentation at the temple, when there were those questionings among the groups of the leaders, the entity then was sent first again into Egypt for only a short period, and then into India, and then into what is now Persia.
(09:52:23) (HostGG) "Hence in all the ways of the teachers the entity was trained.
(09:52:48) (HostGG) "From Persia he was called to Judea at the death of Joseph, and then into Egypt for the completion of the preparation as a teacher.
(09:53:10) (HostGG) "He was with John, the Messenger, during the portion of the training there in Egypt.
(09:53:31) (HostGG) "Then to Capernaum, Cana, and those periods of the first preparation in the land of the nativity.
(09:53:46) (HostGG) "The rest ye have according to Mark, John, Matthew and Luke; these in their order record most of the material experiences of the Master.
(09:54:01) (HostGG) "Many of the details may be given in the varied fields of the preparation, but these were the experiences. Ready for questions." (5749-7)
(09:54:23) (HostGG) To be Continued . . .
(09:54:38) (HostGG) Unless you would like me to go on..........
(09:56:33) (Cris) This is wonderful text
(09:56:35) (HostGG) (Continued - Reading No. 5749-7)
(09:56:55) (HostGG) Ready for questions:
(09:57:10) (HostGG) "Q-1 Explain the immaculate conception.
(09:57:29) (HostGG) "A-1 As flesh is the activity of the mental being (or the spiritual self and mental being) pushing itself into matter, and as spirit ~~ as He gave ~~ is neither male nor female, they are then both ~~ or one.
(09:57:48) (HostGG) "And when man had reached that period of the full separation from Creative Forces in the spirit, then flesh as man knows it today became in material plane a reality.
(09:58:13) (HostGG) "Then, the immaculate conception is the physical and mental so attuned to spirit as to be quickened by same. Hence the spirit, the soul, of the Master then was brought into being through the accord of the Mother in a materiality that ye know in the earth as conception.
(09:58:52) (HostGG) "Q-2: Explain the relationship of the Wise Men and Jesus' birth.
(09:59:27) (HostGG) "A-2: As indicated by the travels of the Master during the periods of preparation, the whole earth, the whole world looked for, sought the closer understanding. Hence through the efforts of the students of the various phases of experiences of man in the earth, as may be literally interpreted from the first
(09:59:38) (Raleigh) they are both / hmmm
(09:59:53) (HostGG) chapters of Genesis, ye find that those subdued ~~ not that were ruled by, but subdued the understandings of that in the earth ~~ were considered, or were in the position of the wise, or the sages, or the ones that were holy, in body and mind, in accord with high purposes.
(10:00:27) (HostGG) "Hence we find the Wise Men as those that were seekers for the truth, for this happening; and in and through the application of those forces ~~ as ye would term today psychic ~~
(10:00:29) (Raleigh) 'so god is both then i see
(10:00:35) (Raleigh) male and female /
(10:00:49) (HostGG) ~~we find them coming to the place 'where the child was'. Or they were drawn as those that were giving the thanks for this Gift, this expression of a soul seeking to show wayward man back to God.
(10:01:23) (HostGG) "So they represent in the metaphysical sense the three phases of man's experience in materiality: gold, the material; frankincense, the ether or ethereal; myrrh, the healing force as brought with same; or body, mind, soul.
(10:01:54) (HostGG) Cris, is this one of the explanations about the healing power of stones?
(10:02:22) (HostGG) "These were the positions then of the Wise Men in their relationship; or to put into the parlance of the day ~~ they were the encouragement needed for the Mother and those that had nourished, that had cherished this event in the experience of mankind.
(10:03:00) (HostGG) They came during the days of purification, but, to be sure, only after He was purified were they presented to the Child.
(10:03:26) (HostGG) "Q-3: What relation did they have with the later travels of Jesus?
(10:03:53) (HostGG) "A-3: As has just been indicated, they represented then the three phases of man's experience as well as the three phases of the teacher from Egypt, from Persia, from India . . .
(10:04:18) (HostGG) "Q-5: Does the immaculate conception, as explained, concern the coming of Mary to Ann, or Jesus to Mary?
(10:04:47) (HostGG) "A-5: Of Jesus to Mary.
(10:05:05) (HostGG) "Q-6: Was Mary immaculately conceived?
(10:05:27) (HostGG) "A-6: Mary was immaculately conceived.
(10:05:50) (HostGG) "Q-7: How long was the preparation in progress before Mary was chosen?
(10:06:10) (HostGG) "A-7: Three years.
(10:06:57) (HostGG) "Q-8: In what manner was she chosen?
(10:07:16) (HostGG) "A-8: As they walked up the steps.
(10:07:39) (HostGG) "Q-9: Was there any appearance of the angel Gabriel in the home?
(10:07:40) (Raleigh) read what cayce said that looked like sometime /
(10:08:07) (HostGG) "A-9: In the temple when she was chosen, in the home of Elizabeth when she was made aware of the presence by being again in the presence of the messenger or forerunner. Again to Joseph at the time of their union. Again (by Michael) at the time when the edict was given." (5749-7)
(10:08:40) (HostGG) "(1152-3) In that sojourn we find the entity then was, in time, just a year younger than the little Mother who came to the Inn where the entity then was an aid to the parents.
(10:09:05) (HostGG) "And the entity knowing of same through the meetings that were half forbidden by those in the Jewish law and questioned by those in authority for the penal law, there was caused not only the wonderment but ~~
(10:09:05) (Raleigh) i have it here / ill type it up / so neat / brb
(10:09:36) (HostGG) ~~ as seen from the nature of the natural development ~~ a seeking to know. Also the entity felt the emotions of some great thing in the experience of the world about to come to pass.
(10:10:09) (HostGG) "The entity then, in the name Sarapha (or Sara)* [*GD's note: Probably a nickname, since No. 1152-1 gives her name as Jenife. No doubt most people then
(10:11:31) (HostGG) had several names, Jenife may have been the surname. Or one name in Hebraic, another Arabic?], requested that she might aid in the preparation of those quarters to which that Mother-to-be, that father, might come ~~ that were revered by all.
(10:11:57) (HostGG) "For it was well known to the inn-keeper that which had been set by those high superiors or leaders, as to the care that must be given to those as they wended their way to fulfill the needs of an overlord demanding that all register for their contribution to an alien land.
(10:12:17) (HostGG) "Yet as the entity waited, expectant, there was the general rabble; and there were discussions of those that journeyed to Jerusalem for the meetings, as well as to the centers for their taxing-registration, as ye would term in the present.
(10:12:55) (HostGG) "Yet as the entity waited, expectant, there was the general rabble; and there were discussions of those that journeyed to Jerusalem for the meetings, as well as to the centers for their taxing-registration, as ye would term in the present.
(10:13:12) (HostGG) OK that is it for tonight......
(10:13:39) (~Blu) Thank you Lory
(10:13:47) (Raleigh) describe mary chosen /// on the temple steps , those 12 maidens the sun shone that morning , the incense was burning / all bathed in the morning sun / clothed all as in puple and gold / as mary reached the top step the thunder and lightning / the angel led the way / taking the child by the hand to the alter /paraphrase 5749-8 / paraphrased / beautiful i think / ill catch up gg / brb
(10:13:58) (ron) thanks lory
(10:14:30) (starrynite) thank you GG
(10:14:37) (Cris) Thanks Lory
(10:14:41) (~WalksInSpirit) Thank you, Grandmother! Great study!
(10:14:50) (Cris) Yes it was
(10:15:01) (HostGG) You are all welcome. And thanks for coming. I am so hopeful that you all enjoy this as much as I have had getting it ready for you.
(10:15:25) (HostGG) Thank you Ral. That is beautifully described.
(10:17:56) (Raleigh) what a nice class gg tx
(10:45:12) (HostGG) Hey gang, I am tired, so may I say Goodnight Everyone. Sweet Dreams and LOVE to all.
(10:45:13) (~WalksInSpirit) A Grandmother is a Wise WOman of the Tribe
(10:45:23) (~WalksInSpirit) Night Blessings Grandmother!
(10:45:26) (~Blu) Blessings Lory
(10:45:31) (merri) Blessings Lory and TY for the chat
(10:45:36) (~WalksInSpirit) Love you!
(10:45:42) (~WalksInSpirit) Thank you for chat!
(10:45:48) (ron) bye lory
(10:46:07) (HostGG) You're all welcome, God's Blessings.
