Post by WalksInSpirit on Apr 13, 2007 23:28:46 GMT -5
Monday Night Chat: 04-09-07
In giving this prayer to the disciples, it is apparent that Jesus was still aware , after many lives in the earth, of the system or plan He laid out in the beginning, for the spiritual forces to have contact and flow through the material body of man when the time came and there was the need for the soul to be lifted from the low state in which it had become trapped, at the roots of the tree of life.
The head of man is the spiritual earth in which dwell the Father and the Son; the pineal is the seat of the Christ, through which the soul must go before it can be admitted to the pituitary gland which is the Temple of God in the body of man.
It was by this road that man became aware in the body of his
divine sonship. It was the road which Adam and Eve traveled back to the Immaculate Concept, that man could and did enter the material without the influence of evil playing a part in that birth, and could be, and was proved by Mary in the Virgin Birth.
(09:25:47) (@host-GG) "There is Savior, the Child was born; who, through the will and the life manifested, became the Savior of the world ~~ that channel through which those of old had been told that the promise would be fulfilled that was made to Eve . . . " (5749-15)
(09:26:48) (@host-GG) "Before that the entity was in the Atlantean land, when there were those activities when one individual first saw those changes that eventually made for that opening for the needs of, or the preparation for, the Universal Consciousness to bring into the experience what is known to man as the first created man,
(09:27:23) (@host-GG) THIS entity was the companion of that beginning of activity in the Atlantean land. Thus, not as the mother of creation of those activities, but as an advisor to those who would change in their form of activities; or the attempts as later expressed in the entity or being rid of the appendages of materiality.
(09:27:58) (@host-GG) "(2454-3 Cont.) Thus the deep innate desire of those activities in the experience of the entity in the present. The name then was Muglo.
(09:28:27) (@host-GG) "As to the abilities of the entity in the present; a home builder, a community maker, a nation aid, a universal mother, in the advice or counsel or direction to the young as well as the companionship to the old and young." (2454-3)
(09:29:27) (@host-GG) "(2454-4) Mrs. C: You will have before you the entity (2454) who seeks information, advice and guidance in a mental and spiritual reading, regarding her
(09:29:56) (@host-GG) life, health, and home associations. You will answer the questions, as I ask them.
(09:30:32) (@host-GG) "Mr. C: In giving advice or counsel to this entity, the premise from which such should be drawn should be presented, at least for the entity's consideration.
(09:31:09) (@host-GG) "From the advent of the souls of man into materiality, laws were initiated; such as is evidence by the psalmist, 'The heavens declare the glory of God, the firmament sheweth his handiwork.' And yet how oft might each soul cry out, 'WHY are Thou, O God, mindful of the spirit of man, when he stumbleth so blindly and hateth his
(09:32:16) (@host-GG) brother?'
(09:32:43) (@host-GG) "This would indicate, then, that God in His love and His mercy hath given to
(09:33:05) (@host-GG) man that with which the individual may exalt His name in the earth. And as He
(09:35:22) (@host-GG) hath from days of old, He has given those examples in the seers and prophets, yea in this latter day hath He spoken more direct through His Son. Yet these are self-evident facts:
(09:35:59) (@host-GG) "Man's destiny lies within his individual grasp, doth he take hold upon those
(09:37:20) (@host-GG) laws, those self-evident truths. Applying them in his relationships one to another there may come the knowledge that He walketh and talketh with those who would, who do, exalt and glorify His name in the earth.
(09:37:57) (@host-GG) "Man is hedged about by beliefs, by cults, by schisms, by ism ~~ yes. And those things have been created by man that he hath given power in themselves to rule his days. Yet this is only because man has given them such power. For the spirit of truth and wisdom is mighty, and a bulwark of faith and hope to those that trust in Him.
(09:38:55) (@host-GG) But they that give others, other things, power over themselves, become subject unto them. Thus hath He declared, as was given of Him who is the way, the truth and the light, the first, yea the whole of the commandment of the Lord is encompassed in this:
(09:40:04) (@host-GG) 'Thou shalt have no other god before me, neither in heaven nor in earth, nor in things
(09:40:40) (@host-GG) seen or unseen, but thou shalt love thy Lord thy God with all thine heart, thine soul
(09:41:11) (@host-GG) and thine body, and thy neighbor as thyself.
(09:41:41) (@host-GG) "This, then, is the premise from which all judgments by the individual are to be drawn; knowing that the law of the Lord is perfect, it converteth the soul; knowing
(09:42:03) (@host-GG) that the promise of the Christ is, 'Lo, I am with thee always, even unto the end of the world'.
(09:42:29) (@host-GG) "He was in the beginning, He is the end. And as ye walk in the light of His promise, of His words, ye may know the way ye go. For His light shineth in the darkness and maketh the paths straight for those that seek His face." (2454-4)
(09:43:51) (@host-GG) "(5749-3) Q-3: Discuss the various phases of spiritual development before and after reincarnation in the earth.
(09:44:12) (@host-GG) "A-3: This may be illustrated best in that which has been sought through example in the earth.
(09:44:37) (@host-GG) "When there was in the beginning a man's advent into the plane known as earth, and it became a living soul, amendable to the laws that govern the plane itself as presented, the Son of man entered the earth as the first man.
(09:45:07) (@host-GG) Hence the Son of man, the Son of God, the Son of the First Cause, making manifest in a material body. This was not the first spiritual influence, spiritual body, spiritual manifestation in the earth, but the first man ~~ flesh and blood; the first carnal house, the first amenable body to the laws of the plane in its position in the universe.
(09:45:47) (@host-GG) "For, the earth is only an atom in the universe of worlds!
(09:46:07) (@host-GG) "And man's development began through the laws of the generations in the earth; thus the development, retardment, or the alterations in those positions in a material plane.
(09:46:31) (@host-GG) "And with error entered that as called death, which is only a transition ~~ through God's other door ~~ into that realm where the entity has builded, in its manifestations as related to the knowledge and activity respecting the law of the universal influence.
(09:46:57) (@host-GG) "Hence the development is through the planes of experience that an entity may become one with the First Cause; even as the angels that wait before the Throne bring the access of the influence in the experience through the desires and activities of an entity, or being, in whatever state, place or plane of development the entity is passing.
(09:47:26) (@host-GG) "For, in the comprehension of no time, no space, no beginning, no end, there may be the glimpse of what simple transition or birth into the material is; as passing through the other door into another consciousness.
(09:48:11) (@host-GG) "Death in the material plane is passing through the outer door into a consciousness in the material activities that partakes of what the entity, or soul, has done with its spiritual truth in its manifestations in the other sphere.
(09:48:45) (@host-GG) "Hence, as there came the development of that first entity of flesh and blood through the earth plane, He became indeed the Son ~~ through the things which He experienced in the varied planes, as the development came to the oneness with the position in that which man terms the Triune.
(09:48:50) (@host-GG) "Hence, as there came the development of that first entity of flesh and blood through the earth plane, He became indeed the Son ~~ through the things which He experienced in the varied planes, as the development came to the oneness with the position in that which man terms the Triune.
(09:49:27) (@host-GG) "Q-4: Are angels and archangels synonymous with that which we call laws of the universe; if so, explain and give us an example.
(09:49:55) (@host-GG) "A-4: They are as the laws of the universe; as in Michael, the lord of the Way, not the Way but the Lord of the Way, hence disputed with the influence of evil as to the way of the spirit of the teacher or director in his entrance through the outer door." (5749-3)
(09:50:37) (@host-GG) All of the spiritual philosophies of religion in some degree were influenced by the understanding . . . of the rising of the kundalini or creative energy in the body of man
(09:51:55) (@host-GG) "364-9) Q-3: What part did Jesus play in any of His incarnations in the development of the basic teachings of the following religions and philosophies: Buddhism, Mohammedanism, Confucianism, Shintoism, Brahmanism, Platonism, Judaism?
(09:52:35) (@host-GG) "A-3: As has been indicated, the entity ~~ as an entity ~~ influenced either directly or indirectly all those forms of philosophy or religious thought that taught God is One . . . In all these, then, there is that same impelling spirit. What individuals have done, do, to the principles or the spirit of same ~~ in turning this aside to meet their own immediate needs in
(09:53:01) (@host-GG) material planes or places, has made for that as becomes an outstanding thing, as a moralist or the head of any independent religious force or power; for, as has been given, 'Know, O Israel, thy Lord God is One!' whether this is directing one of the Confucius thought, Brahman thought, Buddha thought, Mohammedan thought, these are as teachers or representatives . . . 'Paul may minister, Apollos may have watered, but it is God gi
(09:53:32) (@host-GG) "The Spirit of the Creative Force, and as such the Son represented in the spirit in that as was made manifest in the earth. Not as only one, but the only one; for as He gave, 'He that climbs up any other way is a thief and a robber.'
(09:54:04) (@host-GG) " . . . God calls on man everywhere to seek His face, through that channel that may be blessed by the Spirit of the Son ~~ in whatsoever sphere this may take form . . . What are the commandments? 'Thou shalt have no other God before me,' and 'Love thy neighbor as thyself.'
(09:54:33) (@host-GG) In this is builded the whole law and gospel of every age that has said, 'These as we find took possession of ~~ or rather labored with until their own personalities were laid aside in individuals. Do thou likewise, would thou have Him walk with thee. 'Not my will, O Lord, but Thine, be done in me this day, now!' " (364-9)
(09:55:06) (@host-GG) Do you wish me to go on or are there questions?
(09:55:34) (@miketrueeagle) u r on a roll...
(09:55:37) (Raleigh) this is a very good lesson gg ty /
(09:55:38) (~Blu) no qustions here
(09:56:00) (@host-GG) Am I posting too fast?
(09:56:10) (Cris) No
(09:56:11) (Raleigh) just right for us / :)
(09:56:12) (@miketrueeagle) u r doing fine
(09:56:40) (@miketrueeagle) lead on lady
(09:57:35) (@host-GG) The Edgar Cayce readings give a very understandable and fascinating insight into the activity of a people known and referred to in the Bible as the Essenes, who had set themselves apart to prepare the way for the Virgin Birth. There were those among them who were able to read that one of pure body as among them
(09:57:59) (@host-GG) the one who would be acceptable as the channel for this birth. For many years they had been observing exacting rules of health, thought and diet. Mary was of this group, as was Elizabeth the mother of John the Baptist.
(09:58:32) (@host-GG) "5479-8) In those days when there had been more and more of the leaders of the people in Carmel, the original place where the school of prophets was established during Elijah's time [and that of] Samuel ~~ these were called then Essenes; and those that were students of what ye would call astrology, numerology, phrenology, and those phases of that study of the return of individuals, or reincarnation.
(09:59:12) (@host-GG) "These were the reasons that there had been a proclaiming that certain periods were a cycle; and these had been the studies then of Aristotle, Enos, Mathesa, Judas, and those that were in the care of supervision of the school ~~ as you would term.
(09:59:44) (@host-GG) "These having been persecuted by those of the leaders, this first caused that as ye have an interpretation of as Sadducees, or 'there is no resurrection,' or there is no incarnation, which is what resurrection meant in those periods.
(10:00:10) (@host-GG) "In the lead of these, with those changes that had been as promptings from the positions of the stars ~~ that stand as it were in the dividing of the ways between the universal, that is the common vision of the solar system of the Sun, and those from without the spheres ~~ or as
(10:00:30) (@host-GG) the common name, the North Star, as its variation made for those cycles that would be incoordinant with those changes that had been determined by some ~~ this began the preparation ~~ for the 300 years, as has been given, in this period.
(10:01:13) (@host-GG) "Those in charge at the time were Mathesa, Enos, Judas.
(10:01:13) (@host-GG) "In these signs then was the new cycle, that as was then ~~ as we have in the Astrological ~~ the beginning f the Piscean age, or that position of the Polar Star or North Star as related to the southern clouds. These made for the signs, these made for the symbols, as would be the sign used, the manner of the sign's approach and the like.
(10:01:36) (@host-GG) "These then were the beginnings and these were those that were made a part of the studies during that period.
(10:02:14) (@host-GG) "Then there were gain those sounding ~~ that is, the approach of that which had been handed down and had been the experiences from the sages of old ~~ that an angel was to speak. As this occurred when there was the choosing of the mate that had ~~ as in only the thought of those so close ~~ been immaculately conceived, these brought to the focal point the preparation of the mothers.
(10:02:38) (@host-GG) "Then when there were those periods when there was the dumbness to the priest and he, Zacharias, was slain for his repeating of same in the hearing of those of his own school, these made for those fears that made the necessary preparations for the wedding, the preparations for the birth, for those activities for the preservation (physically) of the child; or the flight into Egypt." (5749-8
(10:03:14) (@host-GG) "(5749-7) Much might be given as to how or why and when there were the purposes that brought about the materialization of Jesus in the flesh.
(10:04:05) (@host-GG) "In giving then the history: There were those in the faith of the fathers to whom the promises were given that these would be fulfilled as from the beginning of man's record.
(10:04:27) (@host-GG) "Hence there was the continued preparation and dedication of those who might be the channels through which this chosen vessel might enter ~~ through choice ~~ into materiality.
(10:05:07) (@host-GG) "Thus in Carmel ~~ where there were the priests of this faith ~~ there were the maidens chosen that were dedicated to this purpose, this office, this service.
(10:05:29) (@host-GG) "Among them was Mary, the beloved, the chosen one; and she, as had been foretold, was chosen as the channel. Thus she was separated and kept in the closer associations with and in the care or charge of this office . . .
(10:06:11) (@host-GG) "Then, when the days were fulfilled that the prophecy might come that had been given by Isaiah, Malachi, Joel and those of old, she ~~ Mary, espoused to Joseph ~~ a chosen vessel for the office among those of the priests, the sect or group who had separated and dedicated themselves in body, in mind, in spirit for this coming ~~ became with child.
(10:06:38) (@host-GG) "Then, as the record is given, that is the common knowledge of most, there was born in Bethlehem of Judea that entity, that soul, Jesus.
(10:07:01) (Raleigh) the description of the moment mary was selected on the stairs is so wonderful /
(10:07:03) (@host-GG) "There was the period of purification according to the law, and then the days in the temple and the blessing by Anna and by the high priest.
(10:07:44) (@host-GG) "And these made for those days of the beginning of the entity called Jesus ~~ who becomes the Christ, the Master of Masters ~~ in the days when there was the return to Nazareth and then the edict that sent them into Egypt that the prophecy was fulfilled, 'My son shall be called from Egypt'.
(10:08:07) (@host-GG) "There five years were spent, as ye term time ~~ by the mother, Joseph and the child." (5749-7) [See future reference to reading No. 5749-7]
(10:08:29) (@host-GG) Isn't that about enough for tonight?
(10:09:03) (~Blu) makes a good stopping place
(10:09:06) (Raleigh) well /
(10:09:09) (ron) ok
(10:09:10) (Raleigh) k
(10:09:32) (Cris) I appreciate the study Lory
(10:09:46) (~Blu) Thank you Lory
(10:09:48) (@miketrueeagle) rejoice... christ has risen.... thanks lory
(10:09:49) (ron) thanks again Lory
(10:09:50) (~WalksInSpirit) Awesome study, Grandmother! Thank you!
(10:09:58) (Raleigh) very good selection of materials /
(10:10:28) (@host-GG) The next section begins with a new life reading who at the time of the birth was present as a servant in the Inn.
(10:10:41) (@host-GG) So this is a good place to stop. Any questions?
(10:10:49) (Roz) Thanks Lory
(10:10:58) (~Blu) I had one but have to go back and find the part
(10:11:01) (Raleigh) hang on / i have 1
(10:11:34) (Raleigh) what is phrenology?
(10:11:45) (~Blu) "Then when there were those periods when there was the dumbness to the priest and he, Zacharias, was slain for his repeating of same in the hearing of those of his own school, these made for those fears that made the necessary preparations for the wedding, the preparations for the birth, for those activities for the preservation (physically) of the child; or the flight into Egypt." (5749-8
(10:12:22) (~Blu) OK this Zacharias was slain for ? what I don't understand
(10:12:48) (ron) did not reveal what was going on during the preparations?
(10:12:50) (Raleigh) it is when he couldnt speak till the birth of ann
(10:13:25) (~Blu) why was he slain?
(10:14:12) (@host-GG) For his repeating of the hearing of those of his own school making fears that made necessary preparation for the wedding, I guess, Blu.
(10:14:19) (~WalksInSpirit) PHRENOLOGY: [n] a now abandoned study of the shape of skull as indicative of the strengths of different faculties
(10:14:27) (~Blu) I can google it, this is in the bible?
(10:15:07) (Raleigh) k tx
(10:15:17) (@host-GG) The reading didn't elaborate anything other than what is typed, Blu. I really think, tho, that it was gossip, perhaps
(10:15:37) (Raleigh) i think for teaching such as riencarnation astrology and stuff blu\
(10:16:05) (Raleigh) yeah i remember looking that up /
(10:16:07) (@miketrueeagle) thanks lory .. good stuff
(10:17:44) (~Blu) I am going to google this
(10:17:53) (Raleigh) so that study of the shape of the skull is real /
(10:17:56) (Raleigh) gee
(10:19:14) (~Blu) Then we find the entity grew up in the hill country of Judea,
(10:19:33) (~Blu) nigh unto those places where Elizabeth and Zacharias had lived; Zacharias becoming as it were the first of
(10:19:49) (~Blu) the martyrs, Elizabeth remaining in the land of the hill country.
(10:20:15) (~Blu) I think they killed him because he must have said that the Messiah was coming
(10:20:32) (@host-GG) Wow, Blu, you sure do know how to use your Google.
(10:20:38) (Raleigh) :)
(10:20:47) (Raleigh) blue letter bible?
(10:21:04) (~WalksInSpirit) Raleigh, more on Phrenology... this guy named Gall came up with it.
(10:21:11) (Raleigh) you guys gave that to me a long time ago / i use it often / :)
(10:21:18) (Raleigh) oh ok /
(10:22:38) (Raleigh) dont really hear much about it really huh?
(10:22:45) (merri) I had a wonderful experience when visiting the chapel to St. Ann in Quebec City
(10:23:00) (~WalksInSpirit) Gall marked out on his model of the head the places of twenty-six organs, as round inclosures with vacant interspaces. Spurzheim and Combe divided the whole scalp into oblong and conterminous patches. --Encyc. Brit. -- From Webster's 1913 Dictionary
(10:23:19) (@host-GG) Please share Merri
(10:23:38) (merri) it is set way up in the hills and was quite a bus ride but really beautiful
(10:23:39) (Raleigh) interesting /
(10:24:41) (merri) she is the patron Saint of families and if you are petitioning for a request there is a special prayer to say
(10:25:27) (merri) I went to say a prayer for my daughter who had spent two years trying to have a baby
(10:26:33) (merri) while sitting there repeating the prayer I felt myself surrounded by a wonderful warmth that encased my whole body
(10:26:48) (Raleigh) wow
(10:26:57) (merri) it brought tears to my eyes
(10:27:04) (~Blu) wow
(10:27:11) (~Blu) awesome
(10:27:15) (~WalksInSpirit) AWESOME, Merri!
(10:27:29) (merri) 3 months later my daughter was pregnant
(10:27:35) (@host-GG) Was this recently, Merri?
(10:27:36) (Raleigh) :)
(10:27:37) (~WalksInSpirit) :-)
(10:27:45) (@host-GG) AWESOME indeed.
(10:28:01) (merri) that was exactly 10 yrs ago Lory
(10:28:35) (@host-GG) I have goose bumps just visualizing what happened. Thank you so much for sharing.
(10:29:13) (merri) everyday I see my grandaughter it brings to mind what happened there
(10:29:18) (Raleigh) :)
(10:29:42) (@host-GG) What a beautiful memory.
(10:30:09) (~Blu) Do you remember the prayer merri?
(10:30:51) (merri) no but I have the pamphlet somewhere
(10:31:03) (merri) will have to dig it out
(10:31:20) (~Blu) wonder if we can google it
(10:31:27) (merri) I was also told I'd have 3 grandchildren
(10:31:36) (Raleigh) hmmm
(10:31:43) (merri) I have two now
(10:31:49) (merri) so......
(10:36:00) (merri) WIS regarding symbols...you told us of the owl being a messenger of death...I'm reading about the Maya's and they called the owl the Death Bird
(10:36:52) (Raleigh) hmmm
(10:37:19) (@host-GG) Gee, Merri, that is troublesome. I love the little barn owl in my back yard.
(10:37:27) (~WalksInSpirit) Hmmmmm! Interesting, Merri! You know, My People are descended from the Aztecs? We'rein the Uto-Aztecan group of Indians.
(10:37:37) (Raleigh) i have the wine story gg / thats my best 1 /
(10:37:42) (ron) barn owls have been excluded :)
(10:38:11) (merri) wonder if that's where it came from WIS
(10:38:18) (@host-GG) Aw, good news, Ron.
(10:38:19) (~WalksInSpirit) I bet it is.
(10:38:59) (~WalksInSpirit) It's pretty common, at least among Plains & Southwest tribes.
(10:39:04) (@host-GG) I need to go, gang. This little dog knows exactly when it is time for his evening walk. I wish I had some of the smartness.
(10:39:17) (@host-GG) Sweet Dreams and LOVE to all.
(10:39:22) (merri) TY for the chat Lory
(10:39:26) (ron) bye lory
(10:39:27) (merri) Blessings
(10:39:32) (~Blu) TY Lory
(10:39:32) (~WalksInSpirit) Night Blessings Grandmother! Thank you! Love you!
The head of man is the spiritual earth in which dwell the Father and the Son; the pineal is the seat of the Christ, through which the soul must go before it can be admitted to the pituitary gland which is the Temple of God in the body of man.
It was by this road that man became aware in the body of his
divine sonship. It was the road which Adam and Eve traveled back to the Immaculate Concept, that man could and did enter the material without the influence of evil playing a part in that birth, and could be, and was proved by Mary in the Virgin Birth.
(09:25:47) (@host-GG) "There is Savior, the Child was born; who, through the will and the life manifested, became the Savior of the world ~~ that channel through which those of old had been told that the promise would be fulfilled that was made to Eve . . . " (5749-15)
(09:26:48) (@host-GG) "Before that the entity was in the Atlantean land, when there were those activities when one individual first saw those changes that eventually made for that opening for the needs of, or the preparation for, the Universal Consciousness to bring into the experience what is known to man as the first created man,
(09:27:23) (@host-GG) THIS entity was the companion of that beginning of activity in the Atlantean land. Thus, not as the mother of creation of those activities, but as an advisor to those who would change in their form of activities; or the attempts as later expressed in the entity or being rid of the appendages of materiality.
(09:27:58) (@host-GG) "(2454-3 Cont.) Thus the deep innate desire of those activities in the experience of the entity in the present. The name then was Muglo.
(09:28:27) (@host-GG) "As to the abilities of the entity in the present; a home builder, a community maker, a nation aid, a universal mother, in the advice or counsel or direction to the young as well as the companionship to the old and young." (2454-3)
(09:29:27) (@host-GG) "(2454-4) Mrs. C: You will have before you the entity (2454) who seeks information, advice and guidance in a mental and spiritual reading, regarding her
(09:29:56) (@host-GG) life, health, and home associations. You will answer the questions, as I ask them.
(09:30:32) (@host-GG) "Mr. C: In giving advice or counsel to this entity, the premise from which such should be drawn should be presented, at least for the entity's consideration.
(09:31:09) (@host-GG) "From the advent of the souls of man into materiality, laws were initiated; such as is evidence by the psalmist, 'The heavens declare the glory of God, the firmament sheweth his handiwork.' And yet how oft might each soul cry out, 'WHY are Thou, O God, mindful of the spirit of man, when he stumbleth so blindly and hateth his
(09:32:16) (@host-GG) brother?'
(09:32:43) (@host-GG) "This would indicate, then, that God in His love and His mercy hath given to
(09:33:05) (@host-GG) man that with which the individual may exalt His name in the earth. And as He
(09:35:22) (@host-GG) hath from days of old, He has given those examples in the seers and prophets, yea in this latter day hath He spoken more direct through His Son. Yet these are self-evident facts:
(09:35:59) (@host-GG) "Man's destiny lies within his individual grasp, doth he take hold upon those
(09:37:20) (@host-GG) laws, those self-evident truths. Applying them in his relationships one to another there may come the knowledge that He walketh and talketh with those who would, who do, exalt and glorify His name in the earth.
(09:37:57) (@host-GG) "Man is hedged about by beliefs, by cults, by schisms, by ism ~~ yes. And those things have been created by man that he hath given power in themselves to rule his days. Yet this is only because man has given them such power. For the spirit of truth and wisdom is mighty, and a bulwark of faith and hope to those that trust in Him.
(09:38:55) (@host-GG) But they that give others, other things, power over themselves, become subject unto them. Thus hath He declared, as was given of Him who is the way, the truth and the light, the first, yea the whole of the commandment of the Lord is encompassed in this:
(09:40:04) (@host-GG) 'Thou shalt have no other god before me, neither in heaven nor in earth, nor in things
(09:40:40) (@host-GG) seen or unseen, but thou shalt love thy Lord thy God with all thine heart, thine soul
(09:41:11) (@host-GG) and thine body, and thy neighbor as thyself.
(09:41:41) (@host-GG) "This, then, is the premise from which all judgments by the individual are to be drawn; knowing that the law of the Lord is perfect, it converteth the soul; knowing
(09:42:03) (@host-GG) that the promise of the Christ is, 'Lo, I am with thee always, even unto the end of the world'.
(09:42:29) (@host-GG) "He was in the beginning, He is the end. And as ye walk in the light of His promise, of His words, ye may know the way ye go. For His light shineth in the darkness and maketh the paths straight for those that seek His face." (2454-4)
(09:43:51) (@host-GG) "(5749-3) Q-3: Discuss the various phases of spiritual development before and after reincarnation in the earth.
(09:44:12) (@host-GG) "A-3: This may be illustrated best in that which has been sought through example in the earth.
(09:44:37) (@host-GG) "When there was in the beginning a man's advent into the plane known as earth, and it became a living soul, amendable to the laws that govern the plane itself as presented, the Son of man entered the earth as the first man.
(09:45:07) (@host-GG) Hence the Son of man, the Son of God, the Son of the First Cause, making manifest in a material body. This was not the first spiritual influence, spiritual body, spiritual manifestation in the earth, but the first man ~~ flesh and blood; the first carnal house, the first amenable body to the laws of the plane in its position in the universe.
(09:45:47) (@host-GG) "For, the earth is only an atom in the universe of worlds!
(09:46:07) (@host-GG) "And man's development began through the laws of the generations in the earth; thus the development, retardment, or the alterations in those positions in a material plane.
(09:46:31) (@host-GG) "And with error entered that as called death, which is only a transition ~~ through God's other door ~~ into that realm where the entity has builded, in its manifestations as related to the knowledge and activity respecting the law of the universal influence.
(09:46:57) (@host-GG) "Hence the development is through the planes of experience that an entity may become one with the First Cause; even as the angels that wait before the Throne bring the access of the influence in the experience through the desires and activities of an entity, or being, in whatever state, place or plane of development the entity is passing.
(09:47:26) (@host-GG) "For, in the comprehension of no time, no space, no beginning, no end, there may be the glimpse of what simple transition or birth into the material is; as passing through the other door into another consciousness.
(09:48:11) (@host-GG) "Death in the material plane is passing through the outer door into a consciousness in the material activities that partakes of what the entity, or soul, has done with its spiritual truth in its manifestations in the other sphere.
(09:48:45) (@host-GG) "Hence, as there came the development of that first entity of flesh and blood through the earth plane, He became indeed the Son ~~ through the things which He experienced in the varied planes, as the development came to the oneness with the position in that which man terms the Triune.
(09:48:50) (@host-GG) "Hence, as there came the development of that first entity of flesh and blood through the earth plane, He became indeed the Son ~~ through the things which He experienced in the varied planes, as the development came to the oneness with the position in that which man terms the Triune.
(09:49:27) (@host-GG) "Q-4: Are angels and archangels synonymous with that which we call laws of the universe; if so, explain and give us an example.
(09:49:55) (@host-GG) "A-4: They are as the laws of the universe; as in Michael, the lord of the Way, not the Way but the Lord of the Way, hence disputed with the influence of evil as to the way of the spirit of the teacher or director in his entrance through the outer door." (5749-3)
(09:50:37) (@host-GG) All of the spiritual philosophies of religion in some degree were influenced by the understanding . . . of the rising of the kundalini or creative energy in the body of man
(09:51:55) (@host-GG) "364-9) Q-3: What part did Jesus play in any of His incarnations in the development of the basic teachings of the following religions and philosophies: Buddhism, Mohammedanism, Confucianism, Shintoism, Brahmanism, Platonism, Judaism?
(09:52:35) (@host-GG) "A-3: As has been indicated, the entity ~~ as an entity ~~ influenced either directly or indirectly all those forms of philosophy or religious thought that taught God is One . . . In all these, then, there is that same impelling spirit. What individuals have done, do, to the principles or the spirit of same ~~ in turning this aside to meet their own immediate needs in
(09:53:01) (@host-GG) material planes or places, has made for that as becomes an outstanding thing, as a moralist or the head of any independent religious force or power; for, as has been given, 'Know, O Israel, thy Lord God is One!' whether this is directing one of the Confucius thought, Brahman thought, Buddha thought, Mohammedan thought, these are as teachers or representatives . . . 'Paul may minister, Apollos may have watered, but it is God gi
(09:53:32) (@host-GG) "The Spirit of the Creative Force, and as such the Son represented in the spirit in that as was made manifest in the earth. Not as only one, but the only one; for as He gave, 'He that climbs up any other way is a thief and a robber.'
(09:54:04) (@host-GG) " . . . God calls on man everywhere to seek His face, through that channel that may be blessed by the Spirit of the Son ~~ in whatsoever sphere this may take form . . . What are the commandments? 'Thou shalt have no other God before me,' and 'Love thy neighbor as thyself.'
(09:54:33) (@host-GG) In this is builded the whole law and gospel of every age that has said, 'These as we find took possession of ~~ or rather labored with until their own personalities were laid aside in individuals. Do thou likewise, would thou have Him walk with thee. 'Not my will, O Lord, but Thine, be done in me this day, now!' " (364-9)
(09:55:06) (@host-GG) Do you wish me to go on or are there questions?
(09:55:34) (@miketrueeagle) u r on a roll...
(09:55:37) (Raleigh) this is a very good lesson gg ty /
(09:55:38) (~Blu) no qustions here
(09:56:00) (@host-GG) Am I posting too fast?
(09:56:10) (Cris) No
(09:56:11) (Raleigh) just right for us / :)
(09:56:12) (@miketrueeagle) u r doing fine
(09:56:40) (@miketrueeagle) lead on lady
(09:57:35) (@host-GG) The Edgar Cayce readings give a very understandable and fascinating insight into the activity of a people known and referred to in the Bible as the Essenes, who had set themselves apart to prepare the way for the Virgin Birth. There were those among them who were able to read that one of pure body as among them
(09:57:59) (@host-GG) the one who would be acceptable as the channel for this birth. For many years they had been observing exacting rules of health, thought and diet. Mary was of this group, as was Elizabeth the mother of John the Baptist.
(09:58:32) (@host-GG) "5479-8) In those days when there had been more and more of the leaders of the people in Carmel, the original place where the school of prophets was established during Elijah's time [and that of] Samuel ~~ these were called then Essenes; and those that were students of what ye would call astrology, numerology, phrenology, and those phases of that study of the return of individuals, or reincarnation.
(09:59:12) (@host-GG) "These were the reasons that there had been a proclaiming that certain periods were a cycle; and these had been the studies then of Aristotle, Enos, Mathesa, Judas, and those that were in the care of supervision of the school ~~ as you would term.
(09:59:44) (@host-GG) "These having been persecuted by those of the leaders, this first caused that as ye have an interpretation of as Sadducees, or 'there is no resurrection,' or there is no incarnation, which is what resurrection meant in those periods.
(10:00:10) (@host-GG) "In the lead of these, with those changes that had been as promptings from the positions of the stars ~~ that stand as it were in the dividing of the ways between the universal, that is the common vision of the solar system of the Sun, and those from without the spheres ~~ or as
(10:00:30) (@host-GG) the common name, the North Star, as its variation made for those cycles that would be incoordinant with those changes that had been determined by some ~~ this began the preparation ~~ for the 300 years, as has been given, in this period.
(10:01:13) (@host-GG) "Those in charge at the time were Mathesa, Enos, Judas.
(10:01:13) (@host-GG) "In these signs then was the new cycle, that as was then ~~ as we have in the Astrological ~~ the beginning f the Piscean age, or that position of the Polar Star or North Star as related to the southern clouds. These made for the signs, these made for the symbols, as would be the sign used, the manner of the sign's approach and the like.
(10:01:36) (@host-GG) "These then were the beginnings and these were those that were made a part of the studies during that period.
(10:02:14) (@host-GG) "Then there were gain those sounding ~~ that is, the approach of that which had been handed down and had been the experiences from the sages of old ~~ that an angel was to speak. As this occurred when there was the choosing of the mate that had ~~ as in only the thought of those so close ~~ been immaculately conceived, these brought to the focal point the preparation of the mothers.
(10:02:38) (@host-GG) "Then when there were those periods when there was the dumbness to the priest and he, Zacharias, was slain for his repeating of same in the hearing of those of his own school, these made for those fears that made the necessary preparations for the wedding, the preparations for the birth, for those activities for the preservation (physically) of the child; or the flight into Egypt." (5749-8
(10:03:14) (@host-GG) "(5749-7) Much might be given as to how or why and when there were the purposes that brought about the materialization of Jesus in the flesh.
(10:04:05) (@host-GG) "In giving then the history: There were those in the faith of the fathers to whom the promises were given that these would be fulfilled as from the beginning of man's record.
(10:04:27) (@host-GG) "Hence there was the continued preparation and dedication of those who might be the channels through which this chosen vessel might enter ~~ through choice ~~ into materiality.
(10:05:07) (@host-GG) "Thus in Carmel ~~ where there were the priests of this faith ~~ there were the maidens chosen that were dedicated to this purpose, this office, this service.
(10:05:29) (@host-GG) "Among them was Mary, the beloved, the chosen one; and she, as had been foretold, was chosen as the channel. Thus she was separated and kept in the closer associations with and in the care or charge of this office . . .
(10:06:11) (@host-GG) "Then, when the days were fulfilled that the prophecy might come that had been given by Isaiah, Malachi, Joel and those of old, she ~~ Mary, espoused to Joseph ~~ a chosen vessel for the office among those of the priests, the sect or group who had separated and dedicated themselves in body, in mind, in spirit for this coming ~~ became with child.
(10:06:38) (@host-GG) "Then, as the record is given, that is the common knowledge of most, there was born in Bethlehem of Judea that entity, that soul, Jesus.
(10:07:01) (Raleigh) the description of the moment mary was selected on the stairs is so wonderful /
(10:07:03) (@host-GG) "There was the period of purification according to the law, and then the days in the temple and the blessing by Anna and by the high priest.
(10:07:44) (@host-GG) "And these made for those days of the beginning of the entity called Jesus ~~ who becomes the Christ, the Master of Masters ~~ in the days when there was the return to Nazareth and then the edict that sent them into Egypt that the prophecy was fulfilled, 'My son shall be called from Egypt'.
(10:08:07) (@host-GG) "There five years were spent, as ye term time ~~ by the mother, Joseph and the child." (5749-7) [See future reference to reading No. 5749-7]
(10:08:29) (@host-GG) Isn't that about enough for tonight?
(10:09:03) (~Blu) makes a good stopping place
(10:09:06) (Raleigh) well /
(10:09:09) (ron) ok
(10:09:10) (Raleigh) k
(10:09:32) (Cris) I appreciate the study Lory
(10:09:46) (~Blu) Thank you Lory
(10:09:48) (@miketrueeagle) rejoice... christ has risen.... thanks lory
(10:09:49) (ron) thanks again Lory
(10:09:50) (~WalksInSpirit) Awesome study, Grandmother! Thank you!
(10:09:58) (Raleigh) very good selection of materials /
(10:10:28) (@host-GG) The next section begins with a new life reading who at the time of the birth was present as a servant in the Inn.
(10:10:41) (@host-GG) So this is a good place to stop. Any questions?
(10:10:49) (Roz) Thanks Lory
(10:10:58) (~Blu) I had one but have to go back and find the part
(10:11:01) (Raleigh) hang on / i have 1
(10:11:34) (Raleigh) what is phrenology?
(10:11:45) (~Blu) "Then when there were those periods when there was the dumbness to the priest and he, Zacharias, was slain for his repeating of same in the hearing of those of his own school, these made for those fears that made the necessary preparations for the wedding, the preparations for the birth, for those activities for the preservation (physically) of the child; or the flight into Egypt." (5749-8
(10:12:22) (~Blu) OK this Zacharias was slain for ? what I don't understand
(10:12:48) (ron) did not reveal what was going on during the preparations?
(10:12:50) (Raleigh) it is when he couldnt speak till the birth of ann
(10:13:25) (~Blu) why was he slain?
(10:14:12) (@host-GG) For his repeating of the hearing of those of his own school making fears that made necessary preparation for the wedding, I guess, Blu.
(10:14:19) (~WalksInSpirit) PHRENOLOGY: [n] a now abandoned study of the shape of skull as indicative of the strengths of different faculties
(10:14:27) (~Blu) I can google it, this is in the bible?
(10:15:07) (Raleigh) k tx
(10:15:17) (@host-GG) The reading didn't elaborate anything other than what is typed, Blu. I really think, tho, that it was gossip, perhaps
(10:15:37) (Raleigh) i think for teaching such as riencarnation astrology and stuff blu\
(10:16:05) (Raleigh) yeah i remember looking that up /
(10:16:07) (@miketrueeagle) thanks lory .. good stuff
(10:17:44) (~Blu) I am going to google this
(10:17:53) (Raleigh) so that study of the shape of the skull is real /
(10:17:56) (Raleigh) gee
(10:19:14) (~Blu) Then we find the entity grew up in the hill country of Judea,
(10:19:33) (~Blu) nigh unto those places where Elizabeth and Zacharias had lived; Zacharias becoming as it were the first of
(10:19:49) (~Blu) the martyrs, Elizabeth remaining in the land of the hill country.
(10:20:15) (~Blu) I think they killed him because he must have said that the Messiah was coming
(10:20:32) (@host-GG) Wow, Blu, you sure do know how to use your Google.
(10:20:38) (Raleigh) :)
(10:20:47) (Raleigh) blue letter bible?
(10:21:04) (~WalksInSpirit) Raleigh, more on Phrenology... this guy named Gall came up with it.
(10:21:11) (Raleigh) you guys gave that to me a long time ago / i use it often / :)
(10:21:18) (Raleigh) oh ok /
(10:22:38) (Raleigh) dont really hear much about it really huh?
(10:22:45) (merri) I had a wonderful experience when visiting the chapel to St. Ann in Quebec City
(10:23:00) (~WalksInSpirit) Gall marked out on his model of the head the places of twenty-six organs, as round inclosures with vacant interspaces. Spurzheim and Combe divided the whole scalp into oblong and conterminous patches. --Encyc. Brit. -- From Webster's 1913 Dictionary
(10:23:19) (@host-GG) Please share Merri
(10:23:38) (merri) it is set way up in the hills and was quite a bus ride but really beautiful
(10:23:39) (Raleigh) interesting /
(10:24:41) (merri) she is the patron Saint of families and if you are petitioning for a request there is a special prayer to say
(10:25:27) (merri) I went to say a prayer for my daughter who had spent two years trying to have a baby
(10:26:33) (merri) while sitting there repeating the prayer I felt myself surrounded by a wonderful warmth that encased my whole body
(10:26:48) (Raleigh) wow
(10:26:57) (merri) it brought tears to my eyes
(10:27:04) (~Blu) wow
(10:27:11) (~Blu) awesome
(10:27:15) (~WalksInSpirit) AWESOME, Merri!
(10:27:29) (merri) 3 months later my daughter was pregnant
(10:27:35) (@host-GG) Was this recently, Merri?
(10:27:36) (Raleigh) :)
(10:27:37) (~WalksInSpirit) :-)
(10:27:45) (@host-GG) AWESOME indeed.
(10:28:01) (merri) that was exactly 10 yrs ago Lory
(10:28:35) (@host-GG) I have goose bumps just visualizing what happened. Thank you so much for sharing.
(10:29:13) (merri) everyday I see my grandaughter it brings to mind what happened there
(10:29:18) (Raleigh) :)
(10:29:42) (@host-GG) What a beautiful memory.
(10:30:09) (~Blu) Do you remember the prayer merri?
(10:30:51) (merri) no but I have the pamphlet somewhere
(10:31:03) (merri) will have to dig it out
(10:31:20) (~Blu) wonder if we can google it
(10:31:27) (merri) I was also told I'd have 3 grandchildren
(10:31:36) (Raleigh) hmmm
(10:31:43) (merri) I have two now
(10:31:49) (merri) so......
(10:36:00) (merri) WIS regarding symbols...you told us of the owl being a messenger of death...I'm reading about the Maya's and they called the owl the Death Bird
(10:36:52) (Raleigh) hmmm
(10:37:19) (@host-GG) Gee, Merri, that is troublesome. I love the little barn owl in my back yard.
(10:37:27) (~WalksInSpirit) Hmmmmm! Interesting, Merri! You know, My People are descended from the Aztecs? We'rein the Uto-Aztecan group of Indians.
(10:37:37) (Raleigh) i have the wine story gg / thats my best 1 /
(10:37:42) (ron) barn owls have been excluded :)
(10:38:11) (merri) wonder if that's where it came from WIS
(10:38:18) (@host-GG) Aw, good news, Ron.
(10:38:19) (~WalksInSpirit) I bet it is.
(10:38:59) (~WalksInSpirit) It's pretty common, at least among Plains & Southwest tribes.
(10:39:04) (@host-GG) I need to go, gang. This little dog knows exactly when it is time for his evening walk. I wish I had some of the smartness.
(10:39:17) (@host-GG) Sweet Dreams and LOVE to all.
(10:39:22) (merri) TY for the chat Lory
(10:39:26) (ron) bye lory
(10:39:27) (merri) Blessings
(10:39:32) (~Blu) TY Lory
(10:39:32) (~WalksInSpirit) Night Blessings Grandmother! Thank you! Love you!
