Post by WalksInSpirit on Dec 12, 2005 22:43:09 GMT -5
Search For God: Book One Study: 12-12-05
Lesson Seven: Patience
(09:33:33) (Bill) well guess we should get rolling here first let us each focus on our purpose for entering into these lessons
(09:34:07) (Bill) : How gracious is Thy presence in the earth, O Lord! Be Thou the guide that we with patience may run the race which is set before us, looking to Thee, the Author and Giver of Life. (262-24) Amen
(09:34:17) (Roz) Amen
(09:34:17) (Cris) Amen
(09:34:21) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:34:28) (merri) Amen
(09:34:40) (Lynn) Accorfding to thy will , oh Lord.
(09:34:45) (ron) amen
(09:34:53) (friend_to_mankind) Thy Will be done
(09:34:55) (One) May it be as so.
(09:35:29) (Lynn) I keep praying, Lord give me patience Yesterday! Doesn´t God hear me?
(09:35:39) (Bill) It Takes Patience to Run the Race: The trying of our faith worketh patience, (See James 1.3) we are told in Scripture. Day by day, step by step, the race is run. When we think our patience is entirely exhausted, then we have lost patience with ourselves. What a hell it becomes if we become impatient with ourselves! How quickly we must hasten to analyze ourselves and make the necessary corrections and adjustments!
(09:36:37) (Bill) ! Influences from within are stronger than from without; thus our higher selves stand ready to help, if we are really anxious to set ourselves right. What an opportunity for growth and a closer approach to Him! Let us live just today, as if the race were ended, the work completed ~~ as if upon this day’s endeavors depended the fulfillment of all of His promises
(09:37:10) (Bill) . If we expected the Master, the Christ, to dine with us today, what would we have to offer as the fruits of our lives, our thoughts, our acts, or our deeds?
(09:37:35) (Bill) Patience is a virtue that has no vacation. How watchful we must be, lest malice or censure creep in, and we lose everything for which we have striven! We are called upon at all times to lay aside those things that hinder, and to run with patience the race set before us.
(09:38:28) (Bill) The race must be run, for it is the way back to the Father. Let us be thankful that we do not have to run alone. “I am the way . . . no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14.6) Only the activity of patience, with trust in Him, will enable us to meet all trying conditions and rise above each new barrier.
(09:39:03) (Bill) Personal Experiences: “When I have gained an understanding of true cooperation necessary for each activity and have lost sight of self in service, then I have the knowledge of His presence abiding within, and more and more I express patience ~~ the patience that feeds my soul. I can walk and work and wait peacefully in Spirit and know all is well!”
(09:39:40) (Bill) Patience is the chief cornerstone of soul development. It is, moreover, the watch set at the gateway leading from the physical body to the soul. With it we not only meet the weaknesses of ourselves, but are able to estimate the strength found in developing various attributes of the soul ~~ love, faith and hope.
(09:40:18) (Bill) What we are, what we have been and what we intend to be, are shown more in the patience we exhibit than through any other virtue. It shows just how we have stood the tests in the past: how we have met and conquered them, or gone down in defeat before them. Patience shows just what our development is: whether we are ready to bear with others and overlook their shortcomings, or are primitive in thinking that our way is the only way to truth and real understanding.
(09:41:10) (Bill) “In your patience posses ye your souls!” (Luke 21.19) “For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?” (Mark 8.36, 37.) When we possess this priceless gift, received from the hands of the Father, shall we, in order to assert our rights, pay so high a price that we would give our soul in exchange for self-aggrandizement?
(09:42:36) (Bill) There may be much to bear before we can have the title to the possession cleared in our minds, but through patience in each trial we become stronger for the next. The Master was asked, “How oft shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him ~~ till seven times?”
(09:43:13) (Bill) ?” (Matt. 18.2l) The reply was, “I say not . . . until seven times, but until seventy times seven!” Is seventy times seven built within us? Are we ready to bear and forbear until the end, or ready to give insult for insult, blow for blow? Are we not, by our lack of self-control, showing only how far we are failing to measure up to the standard we have set for others?
(09:43:58) (Bill) Much is buried deep within these souls of ours, much that we should know. As we more and more exercise patience and put into practice what we know, we will grow in grace, knowledge, and understanding. Lord, direct us in the patience of the Christ!
(09:44:26) (Bill) As we understand more perfectly what it means to be a channel of blessings to others and become more aware of the presence of the Father, greater patience will find a place in our lives.
(09:44:51) (Bill) “Be patient; stablish your hearts, for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh,” (P.R.) we are instructed. When? This is the time ~~ today. The time draws nigh for each of us to become more aware of the necessity of magnifying His presence through the patience we have with our fellow man, in order that He may be glorified in us through the promise of the Father.
(09:45:25) (Bill) For “Inasmuch as ye have done it unto the least of these, my little ones, ye have done it unto Me.” (P.R. see Matt 25.40, 45.)
(09:47:13) (Bill) Then let our prayer be expressed in these words: How gracious is Thy presence in the earth, O Lord! Be Thou the guide that we with patience may run the race which is set before us, looking to Thee, the Author and Giver of life. (262-24) Amen
(09:47:52) (Bill) and thats it for our lesson on patience we now have no excuses :o0
(09:48:04) (merri) lol
(09:48:33) (Bill) ! Let us live just today, as if the race were ended, the work completed ~~ as if upon this day’s endeavors depended the fulfillment of all of His promises. If we expected the Master, the Christ, to dine with us today, what would we have to offer as the fruits of our lives, our thoughts, our acts, or our deeds?
(09:49:47) (Bill) as if we expect the Christ to dine with us is often some thing i think of when my mind trys to lead me asstary with a little white lie :o)
(09:49:57) (Lynn) a lot to offer but each offering scorched a little dang!
(09:50:25) (lilith) ty Bill for the lesson
(09:50:41) (Lynn) thank you for the lesson. sobering
(09:51:28) (WalksInSpirit) Great chat, as usual, Bill! Thank you! :-)
(09:51:28) (Bill) . How watchful we must be, lest malice or censure creep in, and we lose everything for which we have striven! We are called upon at all times to lay aside those things that hinder,
(09:52:02) (Lory) It is still extremely difficult with the pressures of making a living today to follow and do all of these things that Cayce channelled for us to do. Our human nature hinders our ability to do so.
(09:52:24) (One) Apply what Bill gives....make it worth his while, and yours.
(09:52:56) (Bill) Patience is the chief cornerstone of soul development. this is some thing for each of us to take to heart ;o)
(09:53:33) (One) No virtue more beatiful then patience according to Cayce.
(09:53:40) (Lynn) If I fall, let me fall toward Jesus.
(09:53:58) (Lynn) With patience, he lifts me up.
(09:53:59) (Q) what is the chief reason to value Patience Bill? and sorry I missed your class, was medicated.
(09:54:12) (WalksInSpirit) Yep. Time + Patience = The Will Of God.
(09:54:43) (Bill) Patience is the chief cornerstone of soul development. It is, moreover, the watch set at the gateway leading from the physical body to the soul. With it we not only meet the weaknesses of ourselves, but are able to estimate the strength found in developing various attributes of the soul ~~ love, faith and hope
(09:54:44) (mark) have heard if one was to pray for Patience then they'll recive test or lessons on same
(09:55:15) (Roz) Time Space Patience
(09:55:31) (Bill) good one Mark
(09:55:33) (Bill) . What we are, what we have been and what we intend to be, are shown more in the patience we exhibit than through any other virtue. It shows just how we have stood the tests in the past: how we have met and conquered them, or gone down in defeat before them. Patience shows just what our development is:
(09:55:54) (Bill) : whether we are ready to bear with others and overlook their shortcomings, or are primitive in thinking that our way is the only way to truth and real understanding.: whether we are ready to bear with others and overlook their shortcomings, or are primitive in thinking that our way is the only way to truth and real understanding.
(09:56:10) (friend_to_mankind) Luke 21:19 In your patience possess ye your souls.
(09:56:13) (Q) so.. its like a gaurd.. that keep you in check.. for love,faith, and hope?
(09:56:34) (Bill) remember the old farmers advice :o)Life is simpler when you plow around the stump.
(09:57:09) (Bill) “In your patience posses ye your souls!” (Luke 21.19) “For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?” (Mark 8.36, 37.) When we possess this priceless gift, received from the hands of the Father, shall we, in order to assert our rights, pay so high a price that we would give our soul in exchange for self-aggrandizement?
(09:57:42) (Q) so patience is an active force used in concert with what? faith, hope, and love?
(09:58:01) (Bill) * Words that soak into your ears are whispered...not yelled.
(09:58:22) (Bill) Forgive your enemies. It messes up their heads.
(09:58:35) (mark) lol
(09:58:38) (WalksInSpirit) LOL
(09:58:56) (Bill) don't take a very big person to carry a grudge.
(09:59:02) (merri) very good Bill....something to think about!
(09:59:14) (Q) it pours hot coals upon thier heads is what I read... sad way to make a friend.. lol
(09:59:16) (Bill) You cannot unsay a cruel word.
(09:59:21) (Lynn) Yeah, but that can be impatience like ¨¨ok 7 x 6 I´ve forgiven you today. and counting!!! LOL
(09:59:51) (Bill) As we understand more perfectly what it means to be a channel of blessings to others and become more aware of the presence of the Father, greater patience will find a place in our lives.
(10:00:09) (Q) lol.. Lynn.. but who's keeping count.. lol
(10:00:14) (Bill) The best sermons are lived, not preached.
(10:00:38) (Bill) Most of the stuff people worry about ain't never gonna happen anyway.
(10:00:58) (Bill) * Don't judge folks by their relatives.
(10:01:04) (Q) I think that patience is best taught when you have kids.... then you don't have a choice.. lol.
(10:01:09) (WalksInSpirit) LOL Bill
(10:01:12) (Lynn) Lincoln said , my life has been filled with catastrophies most of which never happened lol
(10:01:27) (Bill) hope the humor is fitting :o)
(10:01:47) (Bill) * Remember that silence is sometimes the best answer.
(10:01:49) (Lynn) laughter keeps me patient, when I can laugh at myself
(10:02:12) (Bill) Live a good, honorable life. Then when you get older and think back, you'll enjoy it a second time.
(10:02:28) (Lory) Beautiful words, Bill
(10:02:30) (Cris) What is left unsaid is seldom regretted
(10:02:38) (WalksInSpirit) Yep! I liked that one about the relatives, especially. Cause my family puts the FUN in dysFUNctional. ;-)
(10:02:51) (Q) lol Walks
(10:02:54) (Lory) lol
(10:03:00) (Bill) * Don't interfere with somethin' that ain't botherin' you none.
(10:03:45) (Q) so,, don't bother unless you gonna interfere?
(10:03:50) (Bill) heres one for W_E : :o) Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.
(10:03:58) (WalksInSpirit) LOL Bill!
(10:04:00) (ron) if it works, leave it alone
(10:04:03) (Cris) WIS that can be said of any family
(10:04:25) (Lory) ron, or if it ain't broke, don't fix it??
(10:04:29) (Bill) * If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop diggin'.
(10:04:31) (ron) lol
(10:04:38) (Q) so,, don't dance on a clear day?
(10:05:24) (Bill) many spend far to mcuh time trying to justify them selves , thats my take on the last quote i posted
(10:06:01) (Cris) Good going Bill we needed to hear that
(10:06:08) (Bill) The biggest troublemaker you'll probably ever have to deal with, watches you from the mirror every mornin'.
(10:06:20) (Lory) lol
(10:06:21) (Q) I think of it as thinking out loud... and wondering if someones got a better idea.
(10:06:41) (Bill) * Always drink upstream from the herd.
(10:06:47) (WalksInSpirit) LOL
(10:06:48) (Lory) Amen
(10:06:55) (Bill) * Good judgment comes from experience, and a lotta that comes from bad judgment.
(10:07:20) (Bill) Lettin' the cat outta the bag is a whole lot easier than puttin' it back in.
(10:07:26) (Q) I like that one.. you only learn from mis-steps.
(10:07:48) (Bill) yes Q poor choices
(10:07:51) (Bill) If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' somebody else's dog around.
(10:08:06) (lilith) laffin, Bill
(10:08:21) (Q) the dog whisperer can do that..
(10:08:25) (WalksInSpirit) LOL Reminds me of Buster.
(10:08:26) (Lynn) the fool says, sounds like a lazy way of living lol
(10:09:05) (Bill) okay one last one then i expect you all to entertain me with some wisdom regarding this evenings lesson :o)
(10:09:13) (Bill) * Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.
(10:09:38) (merri) nice ending Bill
(10:09:48) (Lory) He wouldn't have much left to do, Bill. if we did all those things. :-)
(10:09:49) (Q) be a doer and not a listener.
(10:09:59) (Lynn) If you ¨
(10:09:59) (Bill) or we can chat about any subject you wish the choice is left up to you ! :o)
(10:10:18) (Bill) for sure Lory
(10:10:31) (Lynn) If you ¨¨care¨¨ deeply you will interfere with things that ´´aren´t bothering you none´´
(10:10:32) (One) Apply whay you gleen.
(10:11:59) (Bill) Lynn we do the things we can ( apply that which we know) and leave the rest up to God
(10:12:15) (merri) if patience shows our development what are the measurements
(10:12:25) (Cris) To get involved in a problem is to become part of the problem not the solution
(10:12:40) (Lynn) But many times there are things we can do about things that aren´t botherin us none and be God´s tools to fix what is not bothering US none.
(10:13:10) (Q) I am glad that I paid so little attention to good advice; had I abided by it I might have been saved by some of my most valuable mistakes.--Gene Fowler
(10:13:22) (lilith) don't understand that last, Lynn - splain??
(10:13:32) (Lynn) Would the black folks be free if people hadn´t interfered with slavery even though they were not slaves?
(10:13:39) (Bill) Merri-? Much is buried deep within these souls of ours, much that we should know. As we more and more exercise patience and put into practice what we know, we will grow in grace, knowledge, and understanding. Lord, direct us in the patience of the Christ!
(10:15:06) (Q) What in the world would a man do with himself,, if nothing stood in his way?---H.G. Wells
(10:15:13) (ron) who is my brother's keeper
(10:15:21) (Lynn) Was Gideon to be patient with the philestines?
(10:15:31) (Bill) As we understand more perfectly what it means to be a channel of blessings to others and become more aware of the presence of the Father, greater patience will find a place in our lives. this would be like a meassurement
(10:15:44) (Q) Gideon was chosen..
(10:15:53) (Lynn) exactly
(10:16:08) (Q) Hiding from the philistine.. but chosen still.
(10:16:12) (Lynn) when he was peacefully on the threshing floor I believe minding his own business.
(10:16:18) (Bill) Lynn i don't think your quite getting the gist of patience , patience is actions at times
(10:16:34) (Lynn) ahhhhh tell me more please
(10:16:38) (Bill) active patience is what the lesson is giving us
(10:17:09) (Q) he was hiding in a wine press..if memory serves.
(10:17:33) (Lynn) but he was minding his own business not being concerned with what wasn´t bothering HIM none
(10:17:57) (Lynn) Perhaps, I do not understand but I prefer to be bothered.
(10:18:08) (Q) a good scare means more to a man than good advice--E.W. Howe
(10:18:29) (One) Patience is meekness in action, pureness in heart. Cayce 262-25
(10:18:58) (Bill) We develop by pressing on, by expending spiritual energy, and in so doing we open the way for God to lend the sustaining strength of His presence in times of trail and tests that come to all.
(10:19:24) (Lynn) I see. It´s using your common sense with the offenders not yelling at them. Yelling accomplishes nothing but gentle persuasion creates miracles. I sthat what you are saying?
(10:19:30) (Bill) In the trails that arise day by day, our patience is tested. We begin to grow as we overcome and put behind us each new obstacle. Passive submission will not suffice; our patience must be an active, growing force which rises to meet each new trial.
(10:19:35) (lilith) Lynn, perhaps part of the lesson is that he should have been concerned with what was taking place, whether it bothered him enough, or not
(10:20:16) (Lynn) That is what I am saying, such as slavery such as animal torture such as a child being abused
(10:20:55) (Lynn) I´m an activist. That´s probably why I didn´t get it at first. Sorry.
(10:21:03) (One) Patience doesn't mean patience in the sense of just sumissiveness, or just being quiet....but an active patience, conscious of being patient with self and with others. Force self to do some unpleasant things thast it hasn't wanted to do once and awhgile and like it. Cayce 911-3
(10:21:27) (Bill) it how we approach the unjustices we see and do what we must to correct them in a manner fitting the situation without lowering our ideals or standards set for ourselves
(10:21:29) (lilith) shouldn't think anyone needs to apologize here, after all, we all are just learning
(10:21:30) (Q) this would be a fine world , if all men showed as much patience all the time,, as they do while they're waiting for a fish to bite.---Vaughn Monroe
(10:22:09) (Lynn) Honey, I LIVE that way doing things I don´t want to do because they need to be done, providing God leads me.
(10:22:42) (Lory) Some really good thoughts being expressed here tonight. Good lesson Bill.
(10:22:43) (Q) The secret of patience is doing something else,, in the meanwhile---The Sun Dial.
(10:23:15) (Bill) like watching paint dry Q ? :o)
(10:23:23) (One) If one smite thee on the cheek, did He say withdraw? No! Rather turn the other! Be active in thy patience; be active in thy relationships with thy fellow man! Cayce 815-2
(10:23:28) (Lynn) But I think what you are saying is when I write to a CEO regarding animal abuse, I make sure I quietly say good things first. Then carefully phrase my criticisms. and then thank them for their hearing me.
(10:23:32) (Lory) As an activist, Lynn, do you sometimes get angry?
(10:23:55) (Bill) yes Lory these lesson bring out the knowledge that is often hidden in these folk :o)
(10:23:59) (Q) Chinese proverb--Nothing is so full of victory as patience.
(10:24:27) (Lynn) Yes. But that is my challenge. Turned in the right direction with gentleness, I can change what makes me angry. But NO temper tantruams.
(10:24:41) (Q) like watching life go by Bill... paint.. how boring.
(10:24:55) (Lynn) Now, I think that´s what Bill may have been saying.
(10:25:02) (Lory) Good for you. Sometimes we need to get angry as a motivation. But anger, itself usually solves little.
(10:25:30) (Lynn) anger solves nothing, I t alerts us, as pain does, that something is wrong.
(10:25:59) (Bill) The understanding of His laws will come, little by little, as we apply what we already know.
(10:26:10) (Lynn) Thank you for your patience with my not getting it at first. Thank you.
(10:26:28) (Israel) Yes Bill, with application comes understanding.
(10:28:23) (Q) We tire of pleasures we take... but never of those we give.---J Petit Senn.
(10:30:29) (Q) Some people are so good in making the best of a bad situation,, that they go around creating bad situations so they can make the best of them..---Jean Kerr
(10:30:45) (Lynn) love it Q
(10:31:29) (Bill) The beauty of the soul shows in the life of an individual who has patience. This comes to those who have a constant, prayerful attitude for a purposeful life. In order to have this beauty of the soul’s expression, it is necessary that we forget ourselves. It is not altogether an outward growth but an inward one, too.
(10:32:29) (Lynn) attitude for a puposeful life hummm working to accomplish something a purpose worth living and dying for.
(10:32:36) (Bill) . It is the result of introspection, which is the foundation of deep meditation. Love is manifested in every word and act, even as it was in those of the Master. So, through patience let us magnify His attributes in our experiences. There is nothing to regret in exercising patience ~~ there is everything, in the loss of it. We are building for eternity. Results do not always manifest at once.
(10:33:12) (Lynn) for me key words exercisng patience
(10:33:36) (mark) sort of like love?
(10:33:45) (Q) Its a funny thing about life--if you refuse to accept anything but the best,,, you very often get it.---Somerset Maugham
(10:35:06) (Lynn) to me, love is an active verb.
(10:35:28) (Lynn) It´s easy to say I love you, it´s often difficult to help the other person grow.
(10:35:45) (mark) I love you
(10:35:59) (Lynn) I send you good energy. Thank you, mark.
(10:36:25) (lilith) well, mark - everything is over between us! you never told me about Lynn!!
(10:36:33) (lilith) laffin
(10:36:39) (mark) lol
(10:36:47) (Lynn) Lynn is already married, don´t worry lilith. You can have the best.
(10:36:48) (Q) In compliance with the Presidential campaign to abolish poverty,, we have raised our prices----store window sign.
(10:36:57) (Lynn) lol
(10:36:57) (Lynn) lol
(10:37:26) (lilith) wanna hear update on the little reader??
(10:37:35) (Lynn) yes
(10:37:44) (mark) yes
(10:38:16) (Q) a successful politician is someone who can get in the publics eye,, and not irritate it.--Vesta M. Kelly
(10:38:22) (lilith) found out today she has MEMORIZED the text, no wonder she was doing so well! Its from hearing it over & over, so now we are back to basic reading.
(10:38:56) (Lynn) smart, reader!!!!
(10:38:59) (lilith) and recognizing each word as we meet it - talk about smart kid!
(10:39:28) (Lynn) She´s creative. More than one way to do something.
(10:39:33) (Lynn) or he
(10:39:45) (lilith) little girl
(10:40:13) (mark) did you give her the crsytal?
(10:40:17) (Lynn) shouldn´t have doubted myself. She was right word.
(10:40:24) (mark) crystal
(10:40:34) (merri) TY for tonights lesson Bill..
(10:40:43) (Bill) YW
(10:40:56) (lilith) oh yes, she holds it each day - told her it was nothing magic, nothing special, just a pleasant little stone to hold
(10:40:59) (Lynn) Thank you, Bill. Much meaning. You help us grow.
(10:41:33) (lilith) she was so pleased that it was warm in her hand that she came to the back of the room to tell me
(10:41:47) (lilith) Hey - I tend to tell it like it is - Merry Christmas
(10:42:16) (Lynn) She is fortunate to have you , lilith.
(10:42:50) (lilith) well, the reverse is true, too - I enjoy these kids so very much
(10:42:57) (Lynn) And we are fortunate to have Bill. ((((Bill))))
(10:43:22) (Bill) sure lynn flaerty will get you every where :o)
(10:43:31) (Lynn) I know lol
(10:43:40) (Lynn) But I speak truth,.
(10:44:54) (mark) thanks Bill and All,.....nite lights
(09:34:07) (Bill) : How gracious is Thy presence in the earth, O Lord! Be Thou the guide that we with patience may run the race which is set before us, looking to Thee, the Author and Giver of Life. (262-24) Amen
(09:34:17) (Roz) Amen
(09:34:17) (Cris) Amen
(09:34:21) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:34:28) (merri) Amen
(09:34:40) (Lynn) Accorfding to thy will , oh Lord.
(09:34:45) (ron) amen
(09:34:53) (friend_to_mankind) Thy Will be done
(09:34:55) (One) May it be as so.
(09:35:29) (Lynn) I keep praying, Lord give me patience Yesterday! Doesn´t God hear me?
(09:35:39) (Bill) It Takes Patience to Run the Race: The trying of our faith worketh patience, (See James 1.3) we are told in Scripture. Day by day, step by step, the race is run. When we think our patience is entirely exhausted, then we have lost patience with ourselves. What a hell it becomes if we become impatient with ourselves! How quickly we must hasten to analyze ourselves and make the necessary corrections and adjustments!
(09:36:37) (Bill) ! Influences from within are stronger than from without; thus our higher selves stand ready to help, if we are really anxious to set ourselves right. What an opportunity for growth and a closer approach to Him! Let us live just today, as if the race were ended, the work completed ~~ as if upon this day’s endeavors depended the fulfillment of all of His promises
(09:37:10) (Bill) . If we expected the Master, the Christ, to dine with us today, what would we have to offer as the fruits of our lives, our thoughts, our acts, or our deeds?
(09:37:35) (Bill) Patience is a virtue that has no vacation. How watchful we must be, lest malice or censure creep in, and we lose everything for which we have striven! We are called upon at all times to lay aside those things that hinder, and to run with patience the race set before us.
(09:38:28) (Bill) The race must be run, for it is the way back to the Father. Let us be thankful that we do not have to run alone. “I am the way . . . no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14.6) Only the activity of patience, with trust in Him, will enable us to meet all trying conditions and rise above each new barrier.
(09:39:03) (Bill) Personal Experiences: “When I have gained an understanding of true cooperation necessary for each activity and have lost sight of self in service, then I have the knowledge of His presence abiding within, and more and more I express patience ~~ the patience that feeds my soul. I can walk and work and wait peacefully in Spirit and know all is well!”
(09:39:40) (Bill) Patience is the chief cornerstone of soul development. It is, moreover, the watch set at the gateway leading from the physical body to the soul. With it we not only meet the weaknesses of ourselves, but are able to estimate the strength found in developing various attributes of the soul ~~ love, faith and hope.
(09:40:18) (Bill) What we are, what we have been and what we intend to be, are shown more in the patience we exhibit than through any other virtue. It shows just how we have stood the tests in the past: how we have met and conquered them, or gone down in defeat before them. Patience shows just what our development is: whether we are ready to bear with others and overlook their shortcomings, or are primitive in thinking that our way is the only way to truth and real understanding.
(09:41:10) (Bill) “In your patience posses ye your souls!” (Luke 21.19) “For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?” (Mark 8.36, 37.) When we possess this priceless gift, received from the hands of the Father, shall we, in order to assert our rights, pay so high a price that we would give our soul in exchange for self-aggrandizement?
(09:42:36) (Bill) There may be much to bear before we can have the title to the possession cleared in our minds, but through patience in each trial we become stronger for the next. The Master was asked, “How oft shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him ~~ till seven times?”
(09:43:13) (Bill) ?” (Matt. 18.2l) The reply was, “I say not . . . until seven times, but until seventy times seven!” Is seventy times seven built within us? Are we ready to bear and forbear until the end, or ready to give insult for insult, blow for blow? Are we not, by our lack of self-control, showing only how far we are failing to measure up to the standard we have set for others?
(09:43:58) (Bill) Much is buried deep within these souls of ours, much that we should know. As we more and more exercise patience and put into practice what we know, we will grow in grace, knowledge, and understanding. Lord, direct us in the patience of the Christ!
(09:44:26) (Bill) As we understand more perfectly what it means to be a channel of blessings to others and become more aware of the presence of the Father, greater patience will find a place in our lives.
(09:44:51) (Bill) “Be patient; stablish your hearts, for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh,” (P.R.) we are instructed. When? This is the time ~~ today. The time draws nigh for each of us to become more aware of the necessity of magnifying His presence through the patience we have with our fellow man, in order that He may be glorified in us through the promise of the Father.
(09:45:25) (Bill) For “Inasmuch as ye have done it unto the least of these, my little ones, ye have done it unto Me.” (P.R. see Matt 25.40, 45.)
(09:47:13) (Bill) Then let our prayer be expressed in these words: How gracious is Thy presence in the earth, O Lord! Be Thou the guide that we with patience may run the race which is set before us, looking to Thee, the Author and Giver of life. (262-24) Amen
(09:47:52) (Bill) and thats it for our lesson on patience we now have no excuses :o0
(09:48:04) (merri) lol
(09:48:33) (Bill) ! Let us live just today, as if the race were ended, the work completed ~~ as if upon this day’s endeavors depended the fulfillment of all of His promises. If we expected the Master, the Christ, to dine with us today, what would we have to offer as the fruits of our lives, our thoughts, our acts, or our deeds?
(09:49:47) (Bill) as if we expect the Christ to dine with us is often some thing i think of when my mind trys to lead me asstary with a little white lie :o)
(09:49:57) (Lynn) a lot to offer but each offering scorched a little dang!
(09:50:25) (lilith) ty Bill for the lesson
(09:50:41) (Lynn) thank you for the lesson. sobering
(09:51:28) (WalksInSpirit) Great chat, as usual, Bill! Thank you! :-)
(09:51:28) (Bill) . How watchful we must be, lest malice or censure creep in, and we lose everything for which we have striven! We are called upon at all times to lay aside those things that hinder,
(09:52:02) (Lory) It is still extremely difficult with the pressures of making a living today to follow and do all of these things that Cayce channelled for us to do. Our human nature hinders our ability to do so.
(09:52:24) (One) Apply what Bill gives....make it worth his while, and yours.
(09:52:56) (Bill) Patience is the chief cornerstone of soul development. this is some thing for each of us to take to heart ;o)
(09:53:33) (One) No virtue more beatiful then patience according to Cayce.
(09:53:40) (Lynn) If I fall, let me fall toward Jesus.
(09:53:58) (Lynn) With patience, he lifts me up.
(09:53:59) (Q) what is the chief reason to value Patience Bill? and sorry I missed your class, was medicated.
(09:54:12) (WalksInSpirit) Yep. Time + Patience = The Will Of God.
(09:54:43) (Bill) Patience is the chief cornerstone of soul development. It is, moreover, the watch set at the gateway leading from the physical body to the soul. With it we not only meet the weaknesses of ourselves, but are able to estimate the strength found in developing various attributes of the soul ~~ love, faith and hope
(09:54:44) (mark) have heard if one was to pray for Patience then they'll recive test or lessons on same
(09:55:15) (Roz) Time Space Patience
(09:55:31) (Bill) good one Mark
(09:55:33) (Bill) . What we are, what we have been and what we intend to be, are shown more in the patience we exhibit than through any other virtue. It shows just how we have stood the tests in the past: how we have met and conquered them, or gone down in defeat before them. Patience shows just what our development is:
(09:55:54) (Bill) : whether we are ready to bear with others and overlook their shortcomings, or are primitive in thinking that our way is the only way to truth and real understanding.: whether we are ready to bear with others and overlook their shortcomings, or are primitive in thinking that our way is the only way to truth and real understanding.
(09:56:10) (friend_to_mankind) Luke 21:19 In your patience possess ye your souls.
(09:56:13) (Q) so.. its like a gaurd.. that keep you in check.. for love,faith, and hope?
(09:56:34) (Bill) remember the old farmers advice :o)Life is simpler when you plow around the stump.
(09:57:09) (Bill) “In your patience posses ye your souls!” (Luke 21.19) “For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?” (Mark 8.36, 37.) When we possess this priceless gift, received from the hands of the Father, shall we, in order to assert our rights, pay so high a price that we would give our soul in exchange for self-aggrandizement?
(09:57:42) (Q) so patience is an active force used in concert with what? faith, hope, and love?
(09:58:01) (Bill) * Words that soak into your ears are whispered...not yelled.
(09:58:22) (Bill) Forgive your enemies. It messes up their heads.
(09:58:35) (mark) lol
(09:58:38) (WalksInSpirit) LOL
(09:58:56) (Bill) don't take a very big person to carry a grudge.
(09:59:02) (merri) very good Bill....something to think about!
(09:59:14) (Q) it pours hot coals upon thier heads is what I read... sad way to make a friend.. lol
(09:59:16) (Bill) You cannot unsay a cruel word.
(09:59:21) (Lynn) Yeah, but that can be impatience like ¨¨ok 7 x 6 I´ve forgiven you today. and counting!!! LOL
(09:59:51) (Bill) As we understand more perfectly what it means to be a channel of blessings to others and become more aware of the presence of the Father, greater patience will find a place in our lives.
(10:00:09) (Q) lol.. Lynn.. but who's keeping count.. lol
(10:00:14) (Bill) The best sermons are lived, not preached.
(10:00:38) (Bill) Most of the stuff people worry about ain't never gonna happen anyway.
(10:00:58) (Bill) * Don't judge folks by their relatives.
(10:01:04) (Q) I think that patience is best taught when you have kids.... then you don't have a choice.. lol.
(10:01:09) (WalksInSpirit) LOL Bill
(10:01:12) (Lynn) Lincoln said , my life has been filled with catastrophies most of which never happened lol
(10:01:27) (Bill) hope the humor is fitting :o)
(10:01:47) (Bill) * Remember that silence is sometimes the best answer.
(10:01:49) (Lynn) laughter keeps me patient, when I can laugh at myself
(10:02:12) (Bill) Live a good, honorable life. Then when you get older and think back, you'll enjoy it a second time.
(10:02:28) (Lory) Beautiful words, Bill
(10:02:30) (Cris) What is left unsaid is seldom regretted
(10:02:38) (WalksInSpirit) Yep! I liked that one about the relatives, especially. Cause my family puts the FUN in dysFUNctional. ;-)
(10:02:51) (Q) lol Walks
(10:02:54) (Lory) lol
(10:03:00) (Bill) * Don't interfere with somethin' that ain't botherin' you none.
(10:03:45) (Q) so,, don't bother unless you gonna interfere?
(10:03:50) (Bill) heres one for W_E : :o) Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.
(10:03:58) (WalksInSpirit) LOL Bill!
(10:04:00) (ron) if it works, leave it alone
(10:04:03) (Cris) WIS that can be said of any family
(10:04:25) (Lory) ron, or if it ain't broke, don't fix it??
(10:04:29) (Bill) * If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop diggin'.
(10:04:31) (ron) lol
(10:04:38) (Q) so,, don't dance on a clear day?
(10:05:24) (Bill) many spend far to mcuh time trying to justify them selves , thats my take on the last quote i posted
(10:06:01) (Cris) Good going Bill we needed to hear that
(10:06:08) (Bill) The biggest troublemaker you'll probably ever have to deal with, watches you from the mirror every mornin'.
(10:06:20) (Lory) lol
(10:06:21) (Q) I think of it as thinking out loud... and wondering if someones got a better idea.
(10:06:41) (Bill) * Always drink upstream from the herd.
(10:06:47) (WalksInSpirit) LOL
(10:06:48) (Lory) Amen
(10:06:55) (Bill) * Good judgment comes from experience, and a lotta that comes from bad judgment.
(10:07:20) (Bill) Lettin' the cat outta the bag is a whole lot easier than puttin' it back in.
(10:07:26) (Q) I like that one.. you only learn from mis-steps.
(10:07:48) (Bill) yes Q poor choices
(10:07:51) (Bill) If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' somebody else's dog around.
(10:08:06) (lilith) laffin, Bill
(10:08:21) (Q) the dog whisperer can do that..
(10:08:25) (WalksInSpirit) LOL Reminds me of Buster.
(10:08:26) (Lynn) the fool says, sounds like a lazy way of living lol
(10:09:05) (Bill) okay one last one then i expect you all to entertain me with some wisdom regarding this evenings lesson :o)
(10:09:13) (Bill) * Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.
(10:09:38) (merri) nice ending Bill
(10:09:48) (Lory) He wouldn't have much left to do, Bill. if we did all those things. :-)
(10:09:49) (Q) be a doer and not a listener.
(10:09:59) (Lynn) If you ¨
(10:09:59) (Bill) or we can chat about any subject you wish the choice is left up to you ! :o)
(10:10:18) (Bill) for sure Lory
(10:10:31) (Lynn) If you ¨¨care¨¨ deeply you will interfere with things that ´´aren´t bothering you none´´
(10:10:32) (One) Apply whay you gleen.
(10:11:59) (Bill) Lynn we do the things we can ( apply that which we know) and leave the rest up to God
(10:12:15) (merri) if patience shows our development what are the measurements
(10:12:25) (Cris) To get involved in a problem is to become part of the problem not the solution
(10:12:40) (Lynn) But many times there are things we can do about things that aren´t botherin us none and be God´s tools to fix what is not bothering US none.
(10:13:10) (Q) I am glad that I paid so little attention to good advice; had I abided by it I might have been saved by some of my most valuable mistakes.--Gene Fowler
(10:13:22) (lilith) don't understand that last, Lynn - splain??
(10:13:32) (Lynn) Would the black folks be free if people hadn´t interfered with slavery even though they were not slaves?
(10:13:39) (Bill) Merri-? Much is buried deep within these souls of ours, much that we should know. As we more and more exercise patience and put into practice what we know, we will grow in grace, knowledge, and understanding. Lord, direct us in the patience of the Christ!
(10:15:06) (Q) What in the world would a man do with himself,, if nothing stood in his way?---H.G. Wells
(10:15:13) (ron) who is my brother's keeper
(10:15:21) (Lynn) Was Gideon to be patient with the philestines?
(10:15:31) (Bill) As we understand more perfectly what it means to be a channel of blessings to others and become more aware of the presence of the Father, greater patience will find a place in our lives. this would be like a meassurement
(10:15:44) (Q) Gideon was chosen..
(10:15:53) (Lynn) exactly
(10:16:08) (Q) Hiding from the philistine.. but chosen still.
(10:16:12) (Lynn) when he was peacefully on the threshing floor I believe minding his own business.
(10:16:18) (Bill) Lynn i don't think your quite getting the gist of patience , patience is actions at times
(10:16:34) (Lynn) ahhhhh tell me more please
(10:16:38) (Bill) active patience is what the lesson is giving us
(10:17:09) (Q) he was hiding in a wine press..if memory serves.
(10:17:33) (Lynn) but he was minding his own business not being concerned with what wasn´t bothering HIM none
(10:17:57) (Lynn) Perhaps, I do not understand but I prefer to be bothered.
(10:18:08) (Q) a good scare means more to a man than good advice--E.W. Howe
(10:18:29) (One) Patience is meekness in action, pureness in heart. Cayce 262-25
(10:18:58) (Bill) We develop by pressing on, by expending spiritual energy, and in so doing we open the way for God to lend the sustaining strength of His presence in times of trail and tests that come to all.
(10:19:24) (Lynn) I see. It´s using your common sense with the offenders not yelling at them. Yelling accomplishes nothing but gentle persuasion creates miracles. I sthat what you are saying?
(10:19:30) (Bill) In the trails that arise day by day, our patience is tested. We begin to grow as we overcome and put behind us each new obstacle. Passive submission will not suffice; our patience must be an active, growing force which rises to meet each new trial.
(10:19:35) (lilith) Lynn, perhaps part of the lesson is that he should have been concerned with what was taking place, whether it bothered him enough, or not
(10:20:16) (Lynn) That is what I am saying, such as slavery such as animal torture such as a child being abused
(10:20:55) (Lynn) I´m an activist. That´s probably why I didn´t get it at first. Sorry.
(10:21:03) (One) Patience doesn't mean patience in the sense of just sumissiveness, or just being quiet....but an active patience, conscious of being patient with self and with others. Force self to do some unpleasant things thast it hasn't wanted to do once and awhgile and like it. Cayce 911-3
(10:21:27) (Bill) it how we approach the unjustices we see and do what we must to correct them in a manner fitting the situation without lowering our ideals or standards set for ourselves
(10:21:29) (lilith) shouldn't think anyone needs to apologize here, after all, we all are just learning
(10:21:30) (Q) this would be a fine world , if all men showed as much patience all the time,, as they do while they're waiting for a fish to bite.---Vaughn Monroe
(10:22:09) (Lynn) Honey, I LIVE that way doing things I don´t want to do because they need to be done, providing God leads me.
(10:22:42) (Lory) Some really good thoughts being expressed here tonight. Good lesson Bill.
(10:22:43) (Q) The secret of patience is doing something else,, in the meanwhile---The Sun Dial.
(10:23:15) (Bill) like watching paint dry Q ? :o)
(10:23:23) (One) If one smite thee on the cheek, did He say withdraw? No! Rather turn the other! Be active in thy patience; be active in thy relationships with thy fellow man! Cayce 815-2
(10:23:28) (Lynn) But I think what you are saying is when I write to a CEO regarding animal abuse, I make sure I quietly say good things first. Then carefully phrase my criticisms. and then thank them for their hearing me.
(10:23:32) (Lory) As an activist, Lynn, do you sometimes get angry?
(10:23:55) (Bill) yes Lory these lesson bring out the knowledge that is often hidden in these folk :o)
(10:23:59) (Q) Chinese proverb--Nothing is so full of victory as patience.
(10:24:27) (Lynn) Yes. But that is my challenge. Turned in the right direction with gentleness, I can change what makes me angry. But NO temper tantruams.
(10:24:41) (Q) like watching life go by Bill... paint.. how boring.
(10:24:55) (Lynn) Now, I think that´s what Bill may have been saying.
(10:25:02) (Lory) Good for you. Sometimes we need to get angry as a motivation. But anger, itself usually solves little.
(10:25:30) (Lynn) anger solves nothing, I t alerts us, as pain does, that something is wrong.
(10:25:59) (Bill) The understanding of His laws will come, little by little, as we apply what we already know.
(10:26:10) (Lynn) Thank you for your patience with my not getting it at first. Thank you.
(10:26:28) (Israel) Yes Bill, with application comes understanding.
(10:28:23) (Q) We tire of pleasures we take... but never of those we give.---J Petit Senn.
(10:30:29) (Q) Some people are so good in making the best of a bad situation,, that they go around creating bad situations so they can make the best of them..---Jean Kerr
(10:30:45) (Lynn) love it Q
(10:31:29) (Bill) The beauty of the soul shows in the life of an individual who has patience. This comes to those who have a constant, prayerful attitude for a purposeful life. In order to have this beauty of the soul’s expression, it is necessary that we forget ourselves. It is not altogether an outward growth but an inward one, too.
(10:32:29) (Lynn) attitude for a puposeful life hummm working to accomplish something a purpose worth living and dying for.
(10:32:36) (Bill) . It is the result of introspection, which is the foundation of deep meditation. Love is manifested in every word and act, even as it was in those of the Master. So, through patience let us magnify His attributes in our experiences. There is nothing to regret in exercising patience ~~ there is everything, in the loss of it. We are building for eternity. Results do not always manifest at once.
(10:33:12) (Lynn) for me key words exercisng patience
(10:33:36) (mark) sort of like love?
(10:33:45) (Q) Its a funny thing about life--if you refuse to accept anything but the best,,, you very often get it.---Somerset Maugham
(10:35:06) (Lynn) to me, love is an active verb.
(10:35:28) (Lynn) It´s easy to say I love you, it´s often difficult to help the other person grow.
(10:35:45) (mark) I love you
(10:35:59) (Lynn) I send you good energy. Thank you, mark.
(10:36:25) (lilith) well, mark - everything is over between us! you never told me about Lynn!!
(10:36:33) (lilith) laffin
(10:36:39) (mark) lol
(10:36:47) (Lynn) Lynn is already married, don´t worry lilith. You can have the best.
(10:36:48) (Q) In compliance with the Presidential campaign to abolish poverty,, we have raised our prices----store window sign.
(10:36:57) (Lynn) lol
(10:36:57) (Lynn) lol
(10:37:26) (lilith) wanna hear update on the little reader??
(10:37:35) (Lynn) yes
(10:37:44) (mark) yes
(10:38:16) (Q) a successful politician is someone who can get in the publics eye,, and not irritate it.--Vesta M. Kelly
(10:38:22) (lilith) found out today she has MEMORIZED the text, no wonder she was doing so well! Its from hearing it over & over, so now we are back to basic reading.
(10:38:56) (Lynn) smart, reader!!!!
(10:38:59) (lilith) and recognizing each word as we meet it - talk about smart kid!
(10:39:28) (Lynn) She´s creative. More than one way to do something.
(10:39:33) (Lynn) or he
(10:39:45) (lilith) little girl
(10:40:13) (mark) did you give her the crsytal?
(10:40:17) (Lynn) shouldn´t have doubted myself. She was right word.
(10:40:24) (mark) crystal
(10:40:34) (merri) TY for tonights lesson Bill..
(10:40:43) (Bill) YW
(10:40:56) (lilith) oh yes, she holds it each day - told her it was nothing magic, nothing special, just a pleasant little stone to hold
(10:40:59) (Lynn) Thank you, Bill. Much meaning. You help us grow.
(10:41:33) (lilith) she was so pleased that it was warm in her hand that she came to the back of the room to tell me
(10:41:47) (lilith) Hey - I tend to tell it like it is - Merry Christmas
(10:42:16) (Lynn) She is fortunate to have you , lilith.
(10:42:50) (lilith) well, the reverse is true, too - I enjoy these kids so very much
(10:42:57) (Lynn) And we are fortunate to have Bill. ((((Bill))))
(10:43:22) (Bill) sure lynn flaerty will get you every where :o)
(10:43:31) (Lynn) I know lol
(10:43:40) (Lynn) But I speak truth,.
(10:44:54) (mark) thanks Bill and All,.....nite lights
