Post by WalksInSpirit on Nov 14, 2005 22:03:02 GMT -5
Search For God: Book One Study: 11-14-05
"Lesson Six: Fellowship"
(09:29:42) (Bill) “If we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship one with another.” (1 John 1:7)“If we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship one with another.” (1 John 1:7)
(09:30:32) (Bill) AFFIRMATION: How excellent is Thy name in all the earth, O Lord! Would I have fellowship with Thee, I must show brotherly love to my fellow man. Though I approach Thee in humbleness and have aught against my brother, my prayer, my meditation, does not rise to Thee. Help Thou my efforts in my approach to Thee. (262-21.)
(09:31:40) (Bill) Introduction: In preparation for the task before us, let us become more conscious of the divine Spirit within, that we may go on. May we face the issues before us as those called for a purpose. May we rely on His promises, for while we are often weak and selfish ~~ and the work is great ~~ He will encourage our spirits, our hearts with the presence of His Holy Spirit, so that there may be no idleness or delay in us.
(09:32:45) (Bill) A spark of the divine that is forever seeking its source is within each of us. As we develop our spiritual forces, our soul forces within, we fan this spark into a flame which brings realization of our oneness and fellowship with the Creator of all things. There is a longing in our hearts for this fellowship ~~ an urge driving us hither and thither in search of happiness and satisfaction, onward in search of God.
(09:33:38) (Bill) In the beginning, all knew a perfect fellowship with the Father, and in the knowledge and the understanding of this fellowship men walked and talked with God. Again, this same fellowship is offered to all, a promise of the Father, through the Son. It is the reflection of this fellowship which expresses itself in our love for our fellow man, whom we innately feel to be one with us as part of the all inclusive Whole.
(09:34:25) (Bill) . As we manifest love toward our brother, we increase or awaken our consciousness to a more complete fellowship with the Father, and we more fully realize that He moves within others as He moves within us. The brotherhood of man is but a shadow of fellowship with the Father. It is a true expression of the fellowship that exists in spirit.
(09:34:57) (Biddie) such happiness
(09:35:07) (Bill) Am I My Brother’s Keeper? Many thousand years ago there arose a question in man’s heart, “Am I my brother’s keeper”? (Gen. 4.9) It is still being asked. Until this is fully answered in our hearts in God’s way and put into practice in our lives, we cannot hope to have the fellowship that is our rightful heritage.
(09:35:46) (Bill) When we fail to reach “the mark of the high calling” that is realized in service, we endeavor to justify ourselves by making the old inquiry, only to receive the answer, “The voice of thy brother’s blood crieth unto me from the ground”. (Gen. 4.10) No wonder we are miserable and cast down, and have fears that paralyze our efforts. Is it not because we know in our hearts that sin lies at our door?
(09:36:32) (Bill) “Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God.” (1 John 3.1). God gives only love to His children and pities them even as an earthly father pities his children. It is only when we sever relationship from divine Love by failing to suffer with our fellow man, to bear his burdens, and to forgive him that we are out of harmony and sympathy with all that makes life worth living ~~ fellowship with the Father
(09:37:26) (Bill) If we would be in a position to commune with the Spirit within, and if we would seek to know His face, then let us be kind and gentle, compassionate and loving to others less fortunate. Manifesting love for our brother is manifesting love for God “in whom we live and move and have our being.” (P.R. see Acts 17.28)
(09:38:13) (Q) Ephesians 1: 4,5
(09:38:43) (Bill) We are enjoined not merely to ignore the shortcomings of our brother, but to love him in spite of his shortcomings and to show such faith in the power of the Spirit within him that he will catch our vision and in time come to realize his strength and seek to rise to higher planes of consciousness.
(09:39:19) (Bill) . We need not flatter him or lead him to overestimate his strength; rather we should help him to understand himself and to know that he has a friend who will stand by in time of need ~~ one who will extend a hand if he is about to fall into temptation. This answers the whole duty of man to his Maker, for “Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.” (Matt. 25.40)
(09:40:03) (Bill) The test is this: Are we willing to deal with others as we wish them to deal with us? May we ever be bound together in service to others through the fellowship which we have in Him.
(09:40:05) (Biddie) ah Bill, easier said than done
(09:41:05) (Bill) Our Fellowship with God: If we wish to know how we stand with God, let us examine ourselves and see how we feel toward our neighbor. This companionship that we are seeking with God is found in the friendliness we show our brother. It is evident that our actions, our words, and our thoughts indicate too plainly our failure to seek fellowship with the Father
(09:41:52) (Q) 2 Thes. 3:14
(09:42:02) (Anne) Bill many of us have those around us who need our love and prayers
(09:42:13) (Biddie) surely that one can not be connected to God, Bill?
(09:42:13) (Bill) . Let us examine ourselves that we may know what is buried in our hearts and minds that may be blinding us or binding us; and if we have anything against our brother, let us pray for forgiveness, knowing that His mercy is sufficient for all.
(09:42:21) (Anne) and that is all we can give
(09:42:47) (Bill) Seek God where He may be found, even in the heart of a neighbor. How well do we know God?
(09:43:16) (Biddie) do you mean He loves this poor critter, too, Bill?
(09:43:16) (Biddie) do you mean He loves this poor critter, too, Bill?
(09:43:50) (Anne) he loves you too Biddie
(09:43:54) (Bill) okay now we can go over the material and discuss since i can see you obsorbed really well and are stomping at the bit to express some opinions :o)
(09:43:56) (Q) Romans 3:20
(09:44:00) (Raleigh) do not condemn yourself biby
(09:44:06) (Biddie) don't know how grateful I am that He does, Anne
(09:44:14) (Zee) you are precious, Biddie, in his sight He says he sings over us
(09:44:19) (Biddie) rhetorical questins, Ral
(09:44:41) (Biddie) and Zee, I know how much He loves me, thank God!
(09:44:47) (lilith) need this very much - what little patience I have has been sorely tried of late
(09:44:50) (Raleigh) even joking do not condemn yourself
(09:45:03) (Biddie) forgiven, lilith
(09:45:06) (Raleigh) what you think you become biby
(09:45:25) (Zee) easy, Ral
(09:45:26) (Biddie) am fine, Ral, as I said, rhetorical questions
(09:45:42) (Bill) . We need not flatter him or lead him to overestimate his strength; rather we should help him to understand himself and to know that he has a friend who will stand by in time of need
(09:45:51) (Biddie) do not condemn myself Ral
(09:45:57) (Raleigh) k
(09:46:17) (Biddie) I do know that I am loved
(09:47:02) (Bill) okay i'll repost the intro for late comers!
(09:47:03) (Zee) I was surprised when recently God told me I should let Michel know how I feel some things that really irritated me I had tried to smother them but I became more honest and real with her, in gentleness as much as I could. God had prepared her heart. Things got better between us.
(09:47:06) (Bill) Introduction: In preparation for the task before us, let us become more conscious of the divine Spirit within, that we may go on. May we face the issues before us as those called for a purpose. May we rely on His promises, for while we are often weak and selfish ~~ and the work is great ~~ He will encourage our spirits, our hearts with the presence of His Holy Spirit, so that there may be no idleness or delay in us.
(09:47:14) (Biddie) and Gratitude is pouring out of me from all over
(09:47:22) (Lee) quote: the way we see ourselves creates the self we see.
(09:47:56) (Raleigh) when the student is ready the teacher will appear zee i feel to say
(09:48:20) (Zee) hey, alright, Lee I see myself creative, intelligent, jocose hey, yeah, I´m glad to be me
(09:48:55) (Lee) I'm glad to be you too
(09:49:12) (Biddie) come from a mighty long way, though Zee
(09:49:16) (Zee) Ral, let´s pray for you know who Lord, forgive him and forgive me thank you for Ral
(09:49:17) (Bill) so does this mean anything to any of you ?
(09:49:19) (lilith) Well Lee, need some slack cut in that above - not always happy with who I am/what I do
(09:49:20) (Bill) As we develop our spiritual forces, our soul forces within, we fan this spark into a flame which brings realization of our oneness and fellowship with the Creator of all things
(09:49:21) (Raleigh) i am glad who i am as well zee / i used to be ashamed / not anymore
(09:49:45) (Zee) alright YAY for you
(09:49:46) (Lee) ditto
(09:49:49) (Biddie) amen, Zee, teaching me things
(09:50:02) (One) Application brings with it development.
(09:50:06) (karen) good Ral
(09:50:08) (Raleigh) i pray for jesus even / :)
(09:50:12) (Zee) but it is ok to examine ourselves, Ral, and express the desire to grow, to change to be transformed into the image of Jesus
(09:50:18) (Biddie) Wow, Bill, can you not see us coming out of the wood work with stuff?
(09:50:34) (Biddie) amen,Ral, thanks
(09:50:41) (Raleigh) i praqy that all will be saved as god prayes that no soul should perish as well
(09:50:55) (Zee) Ral, I like your praying with Jesus God has often expressed heartbreak Lord, have mercy on yourself
(09:50:57) (Raleigh) :)
(09:51:21) (Biddie) hey lilith, getting there
(09:51:32) (Lee) God --- have mercy
(09:51:38) (One) Jesus was a man who Became Christ. The pattern on how to Become Christ was given to Jesus, The Power, The Glory Is Ever hrist.
(09:51:48) (One) Christ
(09:51:52) (lilith) not sure sometimes exakl where I'm getting, Biddie! smilin
(09:52:14) (Biddie) thank God He does have mercy, Lee
(09:52:47) (Biddie) hey, lilith, just trust
(09:52:49) (Lee) Crist in us has the WHOLE package
(09:53:02) (Biddie) amen, Lee
(09:53:12) (One) Once you lay self aside and let Him Operate.
(09:53:18) (Zee) I like the story of the preacher who approached the murderer about to be executed the preacher said God´s justice will be done the criminal said I don´t want justice I want MERCY ME TOO; LORD
(09:53:35) (Biddie) FOFL Zee
(09:53:56) (Biddie) Lord, it is so lovely in here tonight
(09:54:21) (Raleigh) smellz kinda like flowerz huh biby//:)
(09:54:29) (karen) hi biddie, in what state do u live?
(09:54:34) (lilith) self doesn't always WANT to be laid aside
(09:54:38) (Biddie) not smelling it, just feeling it Ral
(09:54:43) (One) No kidding.
(09:54:45) (Anne) yes it allways is
(09:55:04) (One) Self does not want to go quietly into the night.
(09:55:15) (Biddie) ya got that right, One
(09:55:19) (One) It has a tenacious grip.
(09:55:21) (Lee) Now that I have a little understanding of the stars, the knowledge of mercy is before us day and night
(09:55:24) (friend_to_mankind) All have something to give
(09:55:26) (Bill) i assume discussion of the lesson is out of the question?
(09:55:26) (One) Holding you to death.
(09:55:30) (Anne) self, ie ego
(09:55:42) (One) No
(09:55:50) (Biddie) oh, Bill, are we not discussing the lesson?
(09:55:53) (Q) Whats the question again Bill.. I can't read that fast.
(09:55:53) (lilith) thought we were, Bill - most applies, doesn't it? not laffin
(09:55:55) (karen) man minus ego = god
(09:56:47) (Biddie) thought we were doing a good job too
(09:56:49) (Zee) what do you want us to discuss about the lesson, Bill I thought we were talking about love for others and for God through others
(09:56:50) (Bill) In the beginning, all knew a perfect fellowship with the Father, and in the knowledge and the understanding of this fellowship men walked and talked with God. Again, this same fellowship is offered to all, a promise of the Father, through the Son. It is the reflection of this fellowship which expresses itself in our love for our fellow man, whom we innately feel to be one with us as part of the all inclusive Whole
(09:57:12) (Anne) hard thing to give up, that ego
(09:57:37) (Biddie) have not always felt my fellow man was part of me, just get me to heaven, don't care about him
(09:57:41) (lilith) yup Anne - but isn't that last paragraph entailed in what we were talking about? I sure thought so
(09:57:46) (karen) hey bill, do u think ego suppresses spirit?
(09:57:53) (One) Yes it was.
(09:57:56) (Q) Oh.. I thought I wrote something about that.. Ephesian 1: 4 and 5.
(09:58:00) (Raleigh) we must have pride in ourselves / not fause pride however
(09:58:22) (Biddie) thought we were talking about when we could see the Father in our brothers
(09:59:08) (Zee) tell us your thoughts on the reading, Bill, please
(09:59:09) (Raleigh) see the good in the worst of others biby
(09:59:11) (lilith) have been having a great deal of trouble in here lately with that one,Biddie
(09:59:18) (Q) For he chose us in him before the Creation of the world.. to be blameless in his site.
(09:59:22) (Lee) The ego is so very important, flexible, dynamic, comical
(10:00:01) (Q) In Love he predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will.
(10:00:37) (Anne) when we no longer need the ego, we move in to the next step
(10:01:24) (Zee) Q and he who knew no sin was made sin that we might me made the righteousness of God in Him so what´s wrong with the righteousness of God if He wants to see me whiter than snow, its bad manners to inform God that I´´m not let Him have it His way
(10:02:09) (Q) It was refering to the beginning Zee.. it matches the readings.. thats all.
(10:02:09) (Biddie) dont want to discourage Him, eh, Zee?
(10:03:15) (Q) there are several other places that state that we were chosen from the begining Zee.. that was just one of them.
(10:03:26) (Lee) Zee, I feel like I fit into that category--one who knew no sin ,became sin--processing---overcoming sin
(10:03:30) (Zee) I keep getting bounced, maybe ¨¨Lucky¨¨ doesn´t like my being here LOL
(10:03:57) (Biddie) tell Lucky to get lost, Zee
(10:04:31) (Zee) he hasn´t got a chance with the children of god cause my daddy is going to protect me pick me up, Abba, Father
(10:06:00) (Zee) Lee, I agree with you that´s great
(10:06:53) (Q) it says in II Thesalonians.. that from the begining God chose you to be saved by the sanctifying Spirit and through belief in truth.. so wo don't save ourselves.. we are saved cause of someone else had that job.
(10:07:17) (Zee) that is correct, Q
(10:07:32) (Biddie) just happy that He loves me, in spite of myself
(10:07:51) (karen) okay Q where would i find in the bible about ......through a mirror darkly.....
(10:07:53) (Lee) The most important choice we make is what we choose to make important. quote
(10:07:54) (Zee) Q when Christians worry about my keeping my salvation I like to say It was Jesus idea to save me and its up to Jesus to keep me IT IS HIS IDEA NOT MINE
(10:08:07) (friend_to_mankind) It is given unto you to know the mysteries of heaven
(10:08:11) (Anne) i know did not feel able to venture out
(10:08:43) (Biddie) don't think He is gonna chage his idea, either, Zee
(10:09:04) (Zee) I aLso like to say, if you´re concerned about my salvatrion, go talk to Jesus about that its none of my business I gave that matter of my salvation a long time ago go talk to Jesus
(10:09:29) (Biddie) FOFL Zee, good for ya
(10:09:42) (Wanda) 1st Corinthians Karen Chapter 13... the Love Chapter
(10:09:42) (Lee) Zee--- perhaps you did colaberat with Jesus at one time
(10:09:43) (Anne) you have to work with him
(10:09:50) (lilith) would have been okay
(10:10:00) (karen) ty wanda
(10:10:09) (Wanda) verse 12
(10:10:15) (Q) you tempted me karen.. but I have a hard enough time thinking the answers and and typing them.
(10:10:20) (Zee) go ask Jesus about that if I work with him
(10:10:34) (Biddie) so, Q, stop thinking
(10:10:50) (Zee) His Spirit beareth witness with my spirit and I am content
(10:10:54) (Biddie) blessed art we, indeed
(10:11:00) (karen) i kept thinking it was in ecclesiastes
(10:11:25) (Anne) if you are working with him, you are on your way to greater understanding
(10:11:34) (Lee) Of course you do ,I know you do as well as millions of sincere people
(10:11:34) (Raleigh) i shall know even as i am know / see through glass darkly karen
(10:11:36) (Biddie) amen, Anne
(10:11:40) (Zee) who me ? LOL
(10:11:57) (Raleigh) this refers to varne sunglasses i think karen / :)
(10:11:59) (Q) Zee.. that salvation talk .. was it about me.. cause I ain't concerned.. you read it.. you will do just fine on your own.. its not for me to condemn nor bless.
(10:12:06) (Biddie) what a path you chose, Zee
(10:12:21) (Zee) I wasn´t thinking of you at that time Q
(10:12:21) (Biddie) amen, Q
(10:12:46) (Q) O.k.. just wasn't sure.. thats why I asked.. don't want to misread you.
(10:12:47) (Zee) but I´m thinking of you now and I am celebrating our differences the ONE wanted there to be many we can enjoy each other you´re doing great
(10:13:56) (Wanda) Thank you Bill
(10:14:24) (Q) what was the next question Bill?
(10:15:51) (Zee) I think we´re having a beautiful LOVING study tonight
(10:16:04) (Biddie) indeed, thank you Bill
(10:17:09) (Bill) flattery will get you everywhere i've been told :o)
(10:17:11) (Q) But are our answers relative to what Bill's class are about.. or are we just chatting and being rude ?
(10:17:16) (Anne) yes mr bill , singing, we have grown, bless you for all of your hard work
(10:17:38) (Biddie) yeah, decided we were gonna gang up on ya, ernie, should keep ya quiet, for a minute anyway
(10:17:43) (Zee) this is a LOVING study tonight best one Ive been to lately
(10:17:50) (Q) His class said to examine yourselves.. don't ya remember.
(10:18:03) (ernie) bill is a we knolaged fellow
(10:18:03) (Zee) so you didn´t we did
(10:18:07) (Biddie) personally, think they were more than on the mark
(10:18:13) (Biddie) Q
(10:18:34) (Biddie) amen, Zee
(10:18:47) (Biddie) and didn't we do that, Q?
(10:18:57) (lilith) Very few comments off the study theme
(10:18:57) (Raleigh) k
(10:19:01) (Zee) I examine myself and I laugh with laughing Jesus, how you doin Q now don´t be a judge
(10:19:13) (Biddie) me too, Zee
(10:19:21) (Q) So.. Is this the way it gonna be whenever someone teaches.. we are to disregard the topic of discussion and go on rammbling about?
(10:19:25) (Raleigh) rightious judement is a good thing zee
(10:19:52) (Q) I call it like I read it.. no judgement there.
(10:20:04) (Lee) why question the mind and our unity?
(10:20:05) (Biddie) wow, Q, do you feel that we ignored the topic?
(10:20:12) (Zee) and what do you think is the topic of discussion Q we all thought it was loving God through others
(10:20:19) (Anne) it spoke to me concerning my family
(10:20:32) (Biddie) loving our fellow man, in my case, Q
(10:20:35) (Q) I say.. let us be considerate.. of this teaching.. lets stay focused.. be polite..
(10:20:43) (lilith) exacl, zee - ^ and how we constantly strive & sometimes fail
(10:20:52) (One) In the way we treat others we treat God.
(10:20:58) (Bill) Our Fellowship with God: If we wish to know how we stand with God, let us examine ourselves and see how we feel toward our neighbor. This companionship that we are seeking with God is found in the friendliness we show our brother. It is evident that our actions, our words, and our thoughts indicate too plainly our failure to seek fellowship with the Father.
(10:21:10) (Biddie) WOW, Q, thought we were all hitting it right on the head!
(10:21:32) (Sophia) failure?
(10:21:32) (lilith) I still think so p particularly since Bill wrote the last bit
(10:21:33) (ernie) Amen bill
(10:21:38) (Zee) again, Q , what do yoiu consider to be the topic
(10:21:39) (Bill) . Let us examine ourselves that we may know what is buried in our hearts and minds that may be blinding us or binding us; and if we have anything against our brother, let us pray for forgiveness, knowing that His mercy is sufficient for all.
(10:22:17) (Zee) already did that, Bill I don´t let sin hang around I confess it and get over it through Jesus
(10:22:17) (Biddie) Bill, seriously, do you think that we went away from your topic?
(10:22:18) (Q) I am not the topic.. ignore me.. the lessons are before you... let them be your schoolmaster.
(10:22:20) (Raleigh) even thoughts are things sohpy/ as bad a saying it even
(10:22:37) (Raleigh) or good ok
(10:22:55) (Biddie) hey Q, let up on Qrious, I happen to like the guy
(10:23:13) (Zee) you better go talk to Jesus because HE told us in the Bible that we are saints
(10:23:18) (Sophia) ?
(10:23:32) (Zee) I love Q and I enjoy him totally
(10:23:45) (Raleigh) well q is ok
(10:23:47) (Zee) Q, you are an example to all of us I
(10:23:49) (Q) yes ,, Zee.. saints.. that is true.. Saints that are to judge angels..
(10:23:51) (Raleigh) sometimes/:)
(10:23:51) (Biddie) me too, Zee, thinks he gets to hard on himself sometimes, though
(10:23:56) (Anne) you have someone you love who is trashing every thing , just to full fill thier desires
(10:24:14) (Zee) let the angels off the hook, God my vote is bless them for blessing me
(10:24:29) (Anne) what do you do throw them in the tresh
(10:24:30) (Biddie) guess it must be hard to be gorgeous and spiritual, will allow him that
(10:24:31) (Raleigh) gee q your the subject tonight/:)
(10:24:38) (Raleigh) :)
(10:24:42) (Bill) Biddie the topic is fellowship the lesson i believe is for us to learn its meaning all these lessons are facets of Love the only lesson we need learn
(10:24:46) (Biddie) amen, Zee
(10:24:48) (Q) I don't wish to quibble about how much of a good person I am nor of others.. I just want to listen and learn.... this classrooms topic.
(10:24:55) (lilith) aha! Anne - my problem exakl - would rather toss them in the trash than try to love them!
(10:25:12) (Zee) you might listen to the forgiven rejoicing in felllowship and love
(10:25:28) (Anne) you love them but no longer let them trash
(10:25:39) (Biddie) hope you did not think that that was not what we were doing, thought we were right on target Bill, my error, I guess
(10:25:49) (Zee) and mine
(10:26:02) (Zee) we talk about God and others and I get blessed I get happy
(10:26:08) (Biddie) my old thoughts, lilith
(10:26:09) (ernie) ui agree with anne and i dont even know what youall talking bout
(10:26:17) (Raleigh) i see / my problem and my error all over said here
(10:26:28) (Lee) gittin happy--- what a concept
(10:26:34) (Raleigh) now stop condemning yourselves pls
(10:26:34) (Q) I, I, I.. too many I's... not enough attention given to the lesson.
(10:26:48) (Biddie) so Bill, don't you see that we were all trying to apply the lesson, as it applied to us?
(10:26:56) (ernie) because i know she smart
(10:26:59) (Roz) agreed Q
(10:27:00) (Zee) shall I recite it for you
(10:27:06) (Raleigh) yes q
(10:27:07) (Biddie) hey, ernie, get in there somewhere!
(10:27:23) (Sophia) what is the topic tonite
(10:27:25) (Anne) and that is all we can do, as it applys to you
(10:27:27) (Biddie) ain't that the truth, ernie
(10:27:43) (Zee) its my opinion , and everyones got one, LOL that you want us to feel repentance and sorrow for sin that Jesus got rid of for us we rejoice
(10:27:43) (Raleigh) love our fellow man sophy
(10:27:55) (Biddie) think this was a most wonderful lesson, Bill
(10:28:19) (Nick) "Wherever two or more are gatheredin my name, I will be there" The remarkable multiplication of our intentions.
(09:30:32) (Bill) AFFIRMATION: How excellent is Thy name in all the earth, O Lord! Would I have fellowship with Thee, I must show brotherly love to my fellow man. Though I approach Thee in humbleness and have aught against my brother, my prayer, my meditation, does not rise to Thee. Help Thou my efforts in my approach to Thee. (262-21.)
(09:31:40) (Bill) Introduction: In preparation for the task before us, let us become more conscious of the divine Spirit within, that we may go on. May we face the issues before us as those called for a purpose. May we rely on His promises, for while we are often weak and selfish ~~ and the work is great ~~ He will encourage our spirits, our hearts with the presence of His Holy Spirit, so that there may be no idleness or delay in us.
(09:32:45) (Bill) A spark of the divine that is forever seeking its source is within each of us. As we develop our spiritual forces, our soul forces within, we fan this spark into a flame which brings realization of our oneness and fellowship with the Creator of all things. There is a longing in our hearts for this fellowship ~~ an urge driving us hither and thither in search of happiness and satisfaction, onward in search of God.
(09:33:38) (Bill) In the beginning, all knew a perfect fellowship with the Father, and in the knowledge and the understanding of this fellowship men walked and talked with God. Again, this same fellowship is offered to all, a promise of the Father, through the Son. It is the reflection of this fellowship which expresses itself in our love for our fellow man, whom we innately feel to be one with us as part of the all inclusive Whole.
(09:34:25) (Bill) . As we manifest love toward our brother, we increase or awaken our consciousness to a more complete fellowship with the Father, and we more fully realize that He moves within others as He moves within us. The brotherhood of man is but a shadow of fellowship with the Father. It is a true expression of the fellowship that exists in spirit.
(09:34:57) (Biddie) such happiness
(09:35:07) (Bill) Am I My Brother’s Keeper? Many thousand years ago there arose a question in man’s heart, “Am I my brother’s keeper”? (Gen. 4.9) It is still being asked. Until this is fully answered in our hearts in God’s way and put into practice in our lives, we cannot hope to have the fellowship that is our rightful heritage.
(09:35:46) (Bill) When we fail to reach “the mark of the high calling” that is realized in service, we endeavor to justify ourselves by making the old inquiry, only to receive the answer, “The voice of thy brother’s blood crieth unto me from the ground”. (Gen. 4.10) No wonder we are miserable and cast down, and have fears that paralyze our efforts. Is it not because we know in our hearts that sin lies at our door?
(09:36:32) (Bill) “Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God.” (1 John 3.1). God gives only love to His children and pities them even as an earthly father pities his children. It is only when we sever relationship from divine Love by failing to suffer with our fellow man, to bear his burdens, and to forgive him that we are out of harmony and sympathy with all that makes life worth living ~~ fellowship with the Father
(09:37:26) (Bill) If we would be in a position to commune with the Spirit within, and if we would seek to know His face, then let us be kind and gentle, compassionate and loving to others less fortunate. Manifesting love for our brother is manifesting love for God “in whom we live and move and have our being.” (P.R. see Acts 17.28)
(09:38:13) (Q) Ephesians 1: 4,5
(09:38:43) (Bill) We are enjoined not merely to ignore the shortcomings of our brother, but to love him in spite of his shortcomings and to show such faith in the power of the Spirit within him that he will catch our vision and in time come to realize his strength and seek to rise to higher planes of consciousness.
(09:39:19) (Bill) . We need not flatter him or lead him to overestimate his strength; rather we should help him to understand himself and to know that he has a friend who will stand by in time of need ~~ one who will extend a hand if he is about to fall into temptation. This answers the whole duty of man to his Maker, for “Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.” (Matt. 25.40)
(09:40:03) (Bill) The test is this: Are we willing to deal with others as we wish them to deal with us? May we ever be bound together in service to others through the fellowship which we have in Him.
(09:40:05) (Biddie) ah Bill, easier said than done
(09:41:05) (Bill) Our Fellowship with God: If we wish to know how we stand with God, let us examine ourselves and see how we feel toward our neighbor. This companionship that we are seeking with God is found in the friendliness we show our brother. It is evident that our actions, our words, and our thoughts indicate too plainly our failure to seek fellowship with the Father
(09:41:52) (Q) 2 Thes. 3:14
(09:42:02) (Anne) Bill many of us have those around us who need our love and prayers
(09:42:13) (Biddie) surely that one can not be connected to God, Bill?
(09:42:13) (Bill) . Let us examine ourselves that we may know what is buried in our hearts and minds that may be blinding us or binding us; and if we have anything against our brother, let us pray for forgiveness, knowing that His mercy is sufficient for all.
(09:42:21) (Anne) and that is all we can give
(09:42:47) (Bill) Seek God where He may be found, even in the heart of a neighbor. How well do we know God?
(09:43:16) (Biddie) do you mean He loves this poor critter, too, Bill?
(09:43:16) (Biddie) do you mean He loves this poor critter, too, Bill?
(09:43:50) (Anne) he loves you too Biddie
(09:43:54) (Bill) okay now we can go over the material and discuss since i can see you obsorbed really well and are stomping at the bit to express some opinions :o)
(09:43:56) (Q) Romans 3:20
(09:44:00) (Raleigh) do not condemn yourself biby
(09:44:06) (Biddie) don't know how grateful I am that He does, Anne
(09:44:14) (Zee) you are precious, Biddie, in his sight He says he sings over us
(09:44:19) (Biddie) rhetorical questins, Ral
(09:44:41) (Biddie) and Zee, I know how much He loves me, thank God!
(09:44:47) (lilith) need this very much - what little patience I have has been sorely tried of late
(09:44:50) (Raleigh) even joking do not condemn yourself
(09:45:03) (Biddie) forgiven, lilith
(09:45:06) (Raleigh) what you think you become biby
(09:45:25) (Zee) easy, Ral
(09:45:26) (Biddie) am fine, Ral, as I said, rhetorical questions
(09:45:42) (Bill) . We need not flatter him or lead him to overestimate his strength; rather we should help him to understand himself and to know that he has a friend who will stand by in time of need
(09:45:51) (Biddie) do not condemn myself Ral
(09:45:57) (Raleigh) k
(09:46:17) (Biddie) I do know that I am loved
(09:47:02) (Bill) okay i'll repost the intro for late comers!
(09:47:03) (Zee) I was surprised when recently God told me I should let Michel know how I feel some things that really irritated me I had tried to smother them but I became more honest and real with her, in gentleness as much as I could. God had prepared her heart. Things got better between us.
(09:47:06) (Bill) Introduction: In preparation for the task before us, let us become more conscious of the divine Spirit within, that we may go on. May we face the issues before us as those called for a purpose. May we rely on His promises, for while we are often weak and selfish ~~ and the work is great ~~ He will encourage our spirits, our hearts with the presence of His Holy Spirit, so that there may be no idleness or delay in us.
(09:47:14) (Biddie) and Gratitude is pouring out of me from all over
(09:47:22) (Lee) quote: the way we see ourselves creates the self we see.
(09:47:56) (Raleigh) when the student is ready the teacher will appear zee i feel to say
(09:48:20) (Zee) hey, alright, Lee I see myself creative, intelligent, jocose hey, yeah, I´m glad to be me
(09:48:55) (Lee) I'm glad to be you too
(09:49:12) (Biddie) come from a mighty long way, though Zee
(09:49:16) (Zee) Ral, let´s pray for you know who Lord, forgive him and forgive me thank you for Ral
(09:49:17) (Bill) so does this mean anything to any of you ?
(09:49:19) (lilith) Well Lee, need some slack cut in that above - not always happy with who I am/what I do
(09:49:20) (Bill) As we develop our spiritual forces, our soul forces within, we fan this spark into a flame which brings realization of our oneness and fellowship with the Creator of all things
(09:49:21) (Raleigh) i am glad who i am as well zee / i used to be ashamed / not anymore
(09:49:45) (Zee) alright YAY for you
(09:49:46) (Lee) ditto
(09:49:49) (Biddie) amen, Zee, teaching me things
(09:50:02) (One) Application brings with it development.
(09:50:06) (karen) good Ral
(09:50:08) (Raleigh) i pray for jesus even / :)
(09:50:12) (Zee) but it is ok to examine ourselves, Ral, and express the desire to grow, to change to be transformed into the image of Jesus
(09:50:18) (Biddie) Wow, Bill, can you not see us coming out of the wood work with stuff?
(09:50:34) (Biddie) amen,Ral, thanks
(09:50:41) (Raleigh) i praqy that all will be saved as god prayes that no soul should perish as well
(09:50:55) (Zee) Ral, I like your praying with Jesus God has often expressed heartbreak Lord, have mercy on yourself
(09:50:57) (Raleigh) :)
(09:51:21) (Biddie) hey lilith, getting there
(09:51:32) (Lee) God --- have mercy
(09:51:38) (One) Jesus was a man who Became Christ. The pattern on how to Become Christ was given to Jesus, The Power, The Glory Is Ever hrist.
(09:51:48) (One) Christ
(09:51:52) (lilith) not sure sometimes exakl where I'm getting, Biddie! smilin
(09:52:14) (Biddie) thank God He does have mercy, Lee
(09:52:47) (Biddie) hey, lilith, just trust
(09:52:49) (Lee) Crist in us has the WHOLE package
(09:53:02) (Biddie) amen, Lee
(09:53:12) (One) Once you lay self aside and let Him Operate.
(09:53:18) (Zee) I like the story of the preacher who approached the murderer about to be executed the preacher said God´s justice will be done the criminal said I don´t want justice I want MERCY ME TOO; LORD
(09:53:35) (Biddie) FOFL Zee
(09:53:56) (Biddie) Lord, it is so lovely in here tonight
(09:54:21) (Raleigh) smellz kinda like flowerz huh biby//:)
(09:54:29) (karen) hi biddie, in what state do u live?
(09:54:34) (lilith) self doesn't always WANT to be laid aside
(09:54:38) (Biddie) not smelling it, just feeling it Ral
(09:54:43) (One) No kidding.
(09:54:45) (Anne) yes it allways is
(09:55:04) (One) Self does not want to go quietly into the night.
(09:55:15) (Biddie) ya got that right, One
(09:55:19) (One) It has a tenacious grip.
(09:55:21) (Lee) Now that I have a little understanding of the stars, the knowledge of mercy is before us day and night
(09:55:24) (friend_to_mankind) All have something to give
(09:55:26) (Bill) i assume discussion of the lesson is out of the question?
(09:55:26) (One) Holding you to death.
(09:55:30) (Anne) self, ie ego
(09:55:42) (One) No
(09:55:50) (Biddie) oh, Bill, are we not discussing the lesson?
(09:55:53) (Q) Whats the question again Bill.. I can't read that fast.
(09:55:53) (lilith) thought we were, Bill - most applies, doesn't it? not laffin
(09:55:55) (karen) man minus ego = god
(09:56:47) (Biddie) thought we were doing a good job too
(09:56:49) (Zee) what do you want us to discuss about the lesson, Bill I thought we were talking about love for others and for God through others
(09:56:50) (Bill) In the beginning, all knew a perfect fellowship with the Father, and in the knowledge and the understanding of this fellowship men walked and talked with God. Again, this same fellowship is offered to all, a promise of the Father, through the Son. It is the reflection of this fellowship which expresses itself in our love for our fellow man, whom we innately feel to be one with us as part of the all inclusive Whole
(09:57:12) (Anne) hard thing to give up, that ego
(09:57:37) (Biddie) have not always felt my fellow man was part of me, just get me to heaven, don't care about him
(09:57:41) (lilith) yup Anne - but isn't that last paragraph entailed in what we were talking about? I sure thought so
(09:57:46) (karen) hey bill, do u think ego suppresses spirit?
(09:57:53) (One) Yes it was.
(09:57:56) (Q) Oh.. I thought I wrote something about that.. Ephesian 1: 4 and 5.
(09:58:00) (Raleigh) we must have pride in ourselves / not fause pride however
(09:58:22) (Biddie) thought we were talking about when we could see the Father in our brothers
(09:59:08) (Zee) tell us your thoughts on the reading, Bill, please
(09:59:09) (Raleigh) see the good in the worst of others biby
(09:59:11) (lilith) have been having a great deal of trouble in here lately with that one,Biddie
(09:59:18) (Q) For he chose us in him before the Creation of the world.. to be blameless in his site.
(09:59:22) (Lee) The ego is so very important, flexible, dynamic, comical
(10:00:01) (Q) In Love he predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will.
(10:00:37) (Anne) when we no longer need the ego, we move in to the next step
(10:01:24) (Zee) Q and he who knew no sin was made sin that we might me made the righteousness of God in Him so what´s wrong with the righteousness of God if He wants to see me whiter than snow, its bad manners to inform God that I´´m not let Him have it His way
(10:02:09) (Q) It was refering to the beginning Zee.. it matches the readings.. thats all.
(10:02:09) (Biddie) dont want to discourage Him, eh, Zee?
(10:03:15) (Q) there are several other places that state that we were chosen from the begining Zee.. that was just one of them.
(10:03:26) (Lee) Zee, I feel like I fit into that category--one who knew no sin ,became sin--processing---overcoming sin
(10:03:30) (Zee) I keep getting bounced, maybe ¨¨Lucky¨¨ doesn´t like my being here LOL
(10:03:57) (Biddie) tell Lucky to get lost, Zee
(10:04:31) (Zee) he hasn´t got a chance with the children of god cause my daddy is going to protect me pick me up, Abba, Father
(10:06:00) (Zee) Lee, I agree with you that´s great
(10:06:53) (Q) it says in II Thesalonians.. that from the begining God chose you to be saved by the sanctifying Spirit and through belief in truth.. so wo don't save ourselves.. we are saved cause of someone else had that job.
(10:07:17) (Zee) that is correct, Q
(10:07:32) (Biddie) just happy that He loves me, in spite of myself
(10:07:51) (karen) okay Q where would i find in the bible about ......through a mirror darkly.....
(10:07:53) (Lee) The most important choice we make is what we choose to make important. quote
(10:07:54) (Zee) Q when Christians worry about my keeping my salvation I like to say It was Jesus idea to save me and its up to Jesus to keep me IT IS HIS IDEA NOT MINE
(10:08:07) (friend_to_mankind) It is given unto you to know the mysteries of heaven
(10:08:11) (Anne) i know did not feel able to venture out
(10:08:43) (Biddie) don't think He is gonna chage his idea, either, Zee
(10:09:04) (Zee) I aLso like to say, if you´re concerned about my salvatrion, go talk to Jesus about that its none of my business I gave that matter of my salvation a long time ago go talk to Jesus
(10:09:29) (Biddie) FOFL Zee, good for ya
(10:09:42) (Wanda) 1st Corinthians Karen Chapter 13... the Love Chapter
(10:09:42) (Lee) Zee--- perhaps you did colaberat with Jesus at one time
(10:09:43) (Anne) you have to work with him
(10:09:50) (lilith) would have been okay
(10:10:00) (karen) ty wanda
(10:10:09) (Wanda) verse 12
(10:10:15) (Q) you tempted me karen.. but I have a hard enough time thinking the answers and and typing them.
(10:10:20) (Zee) go ask Jesus about that if I work with him
(10:10:34) (Biddie) so, Q, stop thinking
(10:10:50) (Zee) His Spirit beareth witness with my spirit and I am content
(10:10:54) (Biddie) blessed art we, indeed
(10:11:00) (karen) i kept thinking it was in ecclesiastes
(10:11:25) (Anne) if you are working with him, you are on your way to greater understanding
(10:11:34) (Lee) Of course you do ,I know you do as well as millions of sincere people
(10:11:34) (Raleigh) i shall know even as i am know / see through glass darkly karen
(10:11:36) (Biddie) amen, Anne
(10:11:40) (Zee) who me ? LOL
(10:11:57) (Raleigh) this refers to varne sunglasses i think karen / :)
(10:11:59) (Q) Zee.. that salvation talk .. was it about me.. cause I ain't concerned.. you read it.. you will do just fine on your own.. its not for me to condemn nor bless.
(10:12:06) (Biddie) what a path you chose, Zee
(10:12:21) (Zee) I wasn´t thinking of you at that time Q
(10:12:21) (Biddie) amen, Q
(10:12:46) (Q) O.k.. just wasn't sure.. thats why I asked.. don't want to misread you.
(10:12:47) (Zee) but I´m thinking of you now and I am celebrating our differences the ONE wanted there to be many we can enjoy each other you´re doing great
(10:13:56) (Wanda) Thank you Bill
(10:14:24) (Q) what was the next question Bill?
(10:15:51) (Zee) I think we´re having a beautiful LOVING study tonight
(10:16:04) (Biddie) indeed, thank you Bill
(10:17:09) (Bill) flattery will get you everywhere i've been told :o)
(10:17:11) (Q) But are our answers relative to what Bill's class are about.. or are we just chatting and being rude ?
(10:17:16) (Anne) yes mr bill , singing, we have grown, bless you for all of your hard work
(10:17:38) (Biddie) yeah, decided we were gonna gang up on ya, ernie, should keep ya quiet, for a minute anyway
(10:17:43) (Zee) this is a LOVING study tonight best one Ive been to lately
(10:17:50) (Q) His class said to examine yourselves.. don't ya remember.
(10:18:03) (ernie) bill is a we knolaged fellow
(10:18:03) (Zee) so you didn´t we did
(10:18:07) (Biddie) personally, think they were more than on the mark
(10:18:13) (Biddie) Q
(10:18:34) (Biddie) amen, Zee
(10:18:47) (Biddie) and didn't we do that, Q?
(10:18:57) (lilith) Very few comments off the study theme
(10:18:57) (Raleigh) k
(10:19:01) (Zee) I examine myself and I laugh with laughing Jesus, how you doin Q now don´t be a judge
(10:19:13) (Biddie) me too, Zee
(10:19:21) (Q) So.. Is this the way it gonna be whenever someone teaches.. we are to disregard the topic of discussion and go on rammbling about?
(10:19:25) (Raleigh) rightious judement is a good thing zee
(10:19:52) (Q) I call it like I read it.. no judgement there.
(10:20:04) (Lee) why question the mind and our unity?
(10:20:05) (Biddie) wow, Q, do you feel that we ignored the topic?
(10:20:12) (Zee) and what do you think is the topic of discussion Q we all thought it was loving God through others
(10:20:19) (Anne) it spoke to me concerning my family
(10:20:32) (Biddie) loving our fellow man, in my case, Q
(10:20:35) (Q) I say.. let us be considerate.. of this teaching.. lets stay focused.. be polite..
(10:20:43) (lilith) exacl, zee - ^ and how we constantly strive & sometimes fail
(10:20:52) (One) In the way we treat others we treat God.
(10:20:58) (Bill) Our Fellowship with God: If we wish to know how we stand with God, let us examine ourselves and see how we feel toward our neighbor. This companionship that we are seeking with God is found in the friendliness we show our brother. It is evident that our actions, our words, and our thoughts indicate too plainly our failure to seek fellowship with the Father.
(10:21:10) (Biddie) WOW, Q, thought we were all hitting it right on the head!
(10:21:32) (Sophia) failure?
(10:21:32) (lilith) I still think so p particularly since Bill wrote the last bit
(10:21:33) (ernie) Amen bill
(10:21:38) (Zee) again, Q , what do yoiu consider to be the topic
(10:21:39) (Bill) . Let us examine ourselves that we may know what is buried in our hearts and minds that may be blinding us or binding us; and if we have anything against our brother, let us pray for forgiveness, knowing that His mercy is sufficient for all.
(10:22:17) (Zee) already did that, Bill I don´t let sin hang around I confess it and get over it through Jesus
(10:22:17) (Biddie) Bill, seriously, do you think that we went away from your topic?
(10:22:18) (Q) I am not the topic.. ignore me.. the lessons are before you... let them be your schoolmaster.
(10:22:20) (Raleigh) even thoughts are things sohpy/ as bad a saying it even
(10:22:37) (Raleigh) or good ok
(10:22:55) (Biddie) hey Q, let up on Qrious, I happen to like the guy
(10:23:13) (Zee) you better go talk to Jesus because HE told us in the Bible that we are saints
(10:23:18) (Sophia) ?
(10:23:32) (Zee) I love Q and I enjoy him totally
(10:23:45) (Raleigh) well q is ok
(10:23:47) (Zee) Q, you are an example to all of us I
(10:23:49) (Q) yes ,, Zee.. saints.. that is true.. Saints that are to judge angels..
(10:23:51) (Raleigh) sometimes/:)
(10:23:51) (Biddie) me too, Zee, thinks he gets to hard on himself sometimes, though
(10:23:56) (Anne) you have someone you love who is trashing every thing , just to full fill thier desires
(10:24:14) (Zee) let the angels off the hook, God my vote is bless them for blessing me
(10:24:29) (Anne) what do you do throw them in the tresh
(10:24:30) (Biddie) guess it must be hard to be gorgeous and spiritual, will allow him that
(10:24:31) (Raleigh) gee q your the subject tonight/:)
(10:24:38) (Raleigh) :)
(10:24:42) (Bill) Biddie the topic is fellowship the lesson i believe is for us to learn its meaning all these lessons are facets of Love the only lesson we need learn
(10:24:46) (Biddie) amen, Zee
(10:24:48) (Q) I don't wish to quibble about how much of a good person I am nor of others.. I just want to listen and learn.... this classrooms topic.
(10:24:55) (lilith) aha! Anne - my problem exakl - would rather toss them in the trash than try to love them!
(10:25:12) (Zee) you might listen to the forgiven rejoicing in felllowship and love
(10:25:28) (Anne) you love them but no longer let them trash
(10:25:39) (Biddie) hope you did not think that that was not what we were doing, thought we were right on target Bill, my error, I guess
(10:25:49) (Zee) and mine
(10:26:02) (Zee) we talk about God and others and I get blessed I get happy
(10:26:08) (Biddie) my old thoughts, lilith
(10:26:09) (ernie) ui agree with anne and i dont even know what youall talking bout
(10:26:17) (Raleigh) i see / my problem and my error all over said here
(10:26:28) (Lee) gittin happy--- what a concept
(10:26:34) (Raleigh) now stop condemning yourselves pls
(10:26:34) (Q) I, I, I.. too many I's... not enough attention given to the lesson.
(10:26:48) (Biddie) so Bill, don't you see that we were all trying to apply the lesson, as it applied to us?
(10:26:56) (ernie) because i know she smart
(10:26:59) (Roz) agreed Q
(10:27:00) (Zee) shall I recite it for you
(10:27:06) (Raleigh) yes q
(10:27:07) (Biddie) hey, ernie, get in there somewhere!
(10:27:23) (Sophia) what is the topic tonite
(10:27:25) (Anne) and that is all we can do, as it applys to you
(10:27:27) (Biddie) ain't that the truth, ernie
(10:27:43) (Zee) its my opinion , and everyones got one, LOL that you want us to feel repentance and sorrow for sin that Jesus got rid of for us we rejoice
(10:27:43) (Raleigh) love our fellow man sophy
(10:27:55) (Biddie) think this was a most wonderful lesson, Bill
(10:28:19) (Nick) "Wherever two or more are gatheredin my name, I will be there" The remarkable multiplication of our intentions.
