Post by WalksInSpirit on Jul 26, 2005 23:25:08 GMT -5
Search For God - Book One Study: 07-25-05
"Meditation And the Mental Body"
(08:28:11) (Bill) the 1st part is purging of self
(08:28:29) (Bill) Let us consider what takes place in the mental body during meditation. The mind is the builder, the physical the result. The mind partakes of both the physical and the spiritual. Most of us are aware of only a part of the mind; this we call the conscious mind. Even in the field of psychology, recent investigations have revealed little beyond a bare glance at what is called the subconscious, the storehouse of memory and the ever-watched supervisor of the r
(08:30:36) (Bill) . Even in the field of psychology, recent investigations have revealed little beyond a bare glance at what is called the subconscious, the storehouse of memory and the ever-watched supervisor of the regular functions of the body.
(08:31:04) (Bill) . There is still another division of the mind. This may be called the activity of the super-conscious, or soul-mind. (These are only names that we use in trying to clarify for our imperfect understanding the meanings of different functions of one force.)
(08:31:31) (Bill) Through meditation we seek to allow our mind to function normally. Through the will we ask the mind of our physical bodies to cease its wanderings and center itself upon the ideal, which will be presented to the higher mind. This ideal becomes the basis for the activity which results.
(08:32:05) (Bill) If the ideal and purpose we hold are in accord with the super-conscious mind, that which will be of help and value to the physical mind and body will be transmitted into consciousness through some channel of the five senses.
(08:32:24) (Bill) . Proof of this higher mental activity will come to each of us as he seeks to understand. If, however, the ideal and purpose are out of harmony with the soul-mind, the opening of the door between the physical and spiritual will result in turmoil within, striking at the weakest point.
(08:33:00) (Bill) So it is necessary to purify our minds if we would meditate. Think of what we should do to have our God meet us face to face. Would we say, “Many are not able to speak to God, many are fearful”? Edgar Cayce Reading 281-41. Have we gone so far astray that we cannot approach Him who is all merciful? He knows our desires and needs, yet He can supply us only according to the purposes within ourselves.
(08:33:53) (Bill) Then let us purify our bodies, our minds, and consecrate ourselves in prayer. Let us put away from us hate, greed, and malice, and replace them with love and mercy. Let there be in our hearts humbleness, for we must humble ourselves if we would know Him. Let us come with an open, seeking, contrite heart desiring to have the way shown us. Then let us seek to enter.
(08:34:34) (Bill) 2. The attunement of self to the Whole
(08:34:46) (Bill) Attunement depends upon soul development. Physically, the radio may be an illustration. The attunement on any radio may be somewhere near the same point of another, but on no two, even when sitting side by side, will it be the same, for the position of the sets alters that.
(08:35:14) (Bill) So in attuning our consciousness to the divine, each of us must make the attunement according to his own development. Attunement, like all attainments in creation, is a growth. “In my Father’s house are many mansions” (states of consciousness). “I go to prepare a place for you . . . that where I am” (in consciousness), “there ye may be also”. See John 14.2, 3, (in consciousness).
(08:35:50) (Bill) Proper attunement is necessary for true meditation. A perfect attunement may be made with the Ideal, the Infinite, when we make our minds and our wills one with His in word, action, intent, and purpose. Let us pray, “Father, not my will but Thine be done in and through me,” Edgar Cayce Reading 262-1, and mean it.
(08:36:28) (Bill) How may we know we are not in attunement? It is when we have lost interest in our fellow man. To be out of harmony with our brother is to be out of harmony with our Maker.
(08:36:52) (Bill) . Does not the Bible say, “If thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there remembereth that thy brother hath ought against thee; Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.” See Matt. 5.23, 24 “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart . . . and thy neighbour as thyself.” See Luke 10.27.
(08:37:54) (Bill) The Spiritual Body, The Soul
(08:37:56) (Bill) It is through meditation that we may become aware of the existence of the spiritual forces within; that we unlock the door between our physical and spiritual bodies. Through this door come impulses from the soul, seeking expression in the physical.
(08:38:23) (Bill) Our souls are endowed with many faculties that we limited and bound by our impressions in the physical. The soul is always present, always willing to express its true purpose, its true relationship with the Creator. Through meditation we make this possible; we open the way.
(08:38:54) (Bill) Some say that we are not conscious of possessing a soul. We should know that each of us is a soul. This body in which we live is only our house for the moment, and then out of it we go on to other states of consciousness and other experiences.
(08:39:29) (Bill) The fact that we hope, that we have desires for better things, that we are able to be sorry or glad, indicates activities of the mind that take hold upon something that is not temporal in nature, something that does not pass away at the death of the body. Such mental activities come from the spiritual center of our being, the soul. God breathed the breath of life into man and he became a living soul. See Gen. 2.7
(08:40:21) (Bill) Then, each is a soul endowed with the attributes of God, possessing the power of creation, of being one with the Father, a joint heir with the Son.
(08:47:06) (Roz) Meditation is not to be understood as an attempt by man to create physical, mental or spiritual experiences that he is not meant to have. The creative energies within man seek to flow upward and lift his consciousness. The drive to raise one’s consciousness is just as natural, or indeed more natural, than the physical drives of the body such as hunger, thirst, and sex.
(08:47:31) (Bill) so has every one got the states of consciousness figured out as they are relay to us here?
(08:49:00) (Bill) God self Diane our highest state of consciousness where we turn for guidance
(08:49:38) (Lory) Is not the subconscious the soul mind?
(08:49:49) (Bill) There is still another division of the mind. This may be called the activity of the super-conscious, or soul-mind.
(08:50:13) (Lory) Ithought the super conscious was the Universal Mind.
(08:50:33) (Bill) it is what we are trying to bring into our conscious so the three are as one
(08:50:58) (Lory) In meditation, I agree.
(08:51:20) (diane) ok, highest state is super-con...go there for guidance...Activity of super con is soul mind
(08:51:42) (merri) there ya go diane!
(08:52:14) (Bill) the superconsciousness is our direct link to God is it not?
(08:52:25) (Joey) It is.
(08:53:33) (Bill) okay now thats behind us :o)
(08:53:35) (Bill) Through meditation we seek to allow our mind to function normally. Through the will we ask the mind of our physical bodies to cease its wanderings and center itself upon the ideal, which will be presented to the higher mind. This ideal becomes the basis for the activity which results.
(08:54:40) (Bill) If the ideal and purpose we hold are in accord with the super-conscious mind, that which will be of help and value to the physical mind and body will be transmitted into consciousness through some channel of the five senses.
(08:56:22) (Bill) and if we work hard enough at it they become one which is our long range goal
(08:56:25) (Bill) . Proof of this higher mental activity will come to each of us as he seeks to understand. If, however, the ideal and purpose are out of harmony with the soul-mind, the opening of the door between the physical and spiritual will result in turmoil within, striking at the weakest point.
(08:57:38) (Joey) In the spiritual that is known in the physical as the superconscious becomes the subconscious. Cayce 900-23
(08:58:17) (Bill) yes Joey that is when we cross over
(08:58:35) (Joey) Also when self has been laid aside.
(08:59:30) (Bill) while in the physical we must bring the subconscious into our conscious minds
(08:59:57) (Bill) So it is necessary to purify our minds if we would meditate. Think of what we should do to have our God meet us face to face. Would we say, “Many are not able to speak to God, many are fearful”? Edgar Cayce Reading 281-41.
(09:00:34) (Bill) Have we gone so far astray that we cannot approach Him who is all merciful? He knows our desires and needs, yet He can supply us only according to the purposes within ourselves.
(09:01:10) (Lory) And that should happen in meditation, should it not? And for each of us it different??
(09:01:17) (Bill) this is wear Universal Laws come into effect i'd say
(09:01:23) (diane) how do we know if the ideal/purpose is in harmony with the soul mind?
(09:01:44) (Bill) we have made the choices now we are given what is best for us
(09:01:55) (Bill) or what we need most
(09:02:37) (Bill) Dianne is it God's will or your will , your ideal??
(09:02:58) (diane) God's i think
(09:03:40) (Bill) God's will would be anything that is for the betterment of all mankind , selfs will may reflect materiality EG> or selfishness
(09:04:23) (Bill) yes of course it would be Diane i know that you know the differnece it just sounds complicated here at times :o)
(09:04:53) (diane) the line about meditation bringing disastrous results if ideal isn't in sync...sort of scary!
(09:05:52) (Bill) Then let us purify our bodies, our minds, and consecrate ourselves in prayer. Let us put away from us hate, greed, and malice, and replace them with love and mercy. Let there be in our hearts humbleness, for we must humble ourselves if we would know Him. Let us come with an open, seeking, contrite heart desiring to have the way shown us. Then let us seek to enter.
(09:07:06) (Roz) what ever we hold in our mind at meditation is enhanced is what it means
(09:07:23) (Bill) heres some of your answer Diane:
(09:07:50) (Bill) Let there be in our hearts humbleness, for we must humble ourselves if we would know Him. Let us come with an open, seeking, contrite heart desiring to have the way shown us. Then let us seek to enter.Let there be in our hearts humbleness, for we must humble ourselves if we would know Him. Let us come with an open, seeking, contrite heart desiring to have the way shown us. Then let us seek to enter.
(09:09:27) (Bill) . So in attuning our consciousness to the divine, each of us must make the attunement according to his own development. Attunement, like all attainments in creation, is a growth. “In my Father’s house are many mansions” (states of consciousness). “I go to prepare a place for you . . . that where I am” (in consciousness), “there ye may be also”. See John 14.2, 3, (in consciousness).
(09:10:24) (Bill) Proper attunement is necessary for true meditation. A perfect attunement may be made with the Ideal, the Infinite, when we make our minds and our wills one with His in word, action, intent, and purpose. Let us pray, “Father, not my will but Thine be done in and through me,” Edgar Cayce Reading 262-1, and mean it.
(09:11:46) (Bill) except what steeping stones arrive in our lives with open arms and thankfullness for the opportunities as they arise
(09:15:28) (Bill) How may we know we are not in attunement? It is when we have lost interest in our fellow man. To be out of harmony with our brother is to be out of harmony with our Maker.
(09:15:41) (Bill) . Does not the Bible say, “If thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there remembereth that thy brother hath ought against thee; Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.” See Matt. 5.23, 24 “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart . . . and thy neighbour as thyself.” See Luke 10.27.
(09:16:13) (Bill) and a exceptance that He will provide all that is needed
(09:17:32) (ron) fruits of the spirit includes "long-sufferring"
(09:18:11) (diane) seems i have a little example of how a more 'shallow' type of meditation works
(09:18:22) (diane) i like to do crossword puzzles
(09:17:59) (Bill) ron not necessarily :o)
(09:18:26) (Bill) those fruits are self inflicted not God inflicted :o)
(09:18:55) (diane) and i can stare at it for an hour. Leave it alone for awhile and go back. and have the answers
(09:19:27) (Bill) thats a good way to do it Diane
(09:19:36) (diane) seems after pondering the clues long enough, the answer comes out of the blue
(09:19:41) (Bill) all is within
(09:21:29) (Bill) the spiritual body, the soul: It is through meditation that we may become aware of the existence of the spiritual forces within; that we unlock the door between our physical and spiritual bodies. Through this door come impulses from the soul, seeking expression in the physical.
(09:22:20) (Bill) Atom when we cross over we are still the total some of what we have created for our selves no more no less
(09:22:44) (Bill) Our souls are endowed with many faculties that we limited and bound by our impressions in the physical. The soul is always present, always willing to express its true purpose, its true relationship with the Creator. Through meditation we make this possible; we open the way.
(09:23:20) (Bill) Some say that we are not conscious of possessing a soul. We should know that each of us is a soul. This body in which we live is only our house for the moment, and then out of it we go on to other states of consciousness and other experiences.
(09:25:43) (Bill) The fact that we hope, that we have desires for better things, that we are able to be sorry or glad, indicates activities of the mind that take hold upon something that is not temporal in nature, something that does not pass away at the death of the body. Such mental activities come from the spiritual center of our being, the soul. God breathed the breath of life into man and he became a living soul. See Gen. 2.7
(09:26:17) (Bill) isn't that wonderful :o)
(09:26:25) (Bill) Then, each is a soul endowed with the attributes of God, possessing the power of creation, of being one with the Father, a joint heir with the Son.
(09:28:47) (Atom) so the kingdom is within our souls?
(09:30:08) (Bill) yes Atom
(09:32:13) (Bill) Know that ye are going through a period of testing. Remain true to all that has been committed to thee, and know that each day is an opportunity, and an experience. Speak a word for thy ideal. Not as to force an issue but ever constructive. Sow the seed of truth, the seed of the spirit. God will give the increase.
(09:36:54) (Bill) . . all that ye may know of good must first be within self. All ye may know of God must be manifested through thyself. To hear of Him is not to know. To apply and live and be is to know!
(09:40:05) (Bill) Ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. Or what man of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those
(09:41:13) (diane) is that from John, Bill?
(09:41:34) (diane) sounds like gospel of John
(09:41:51) (Bill) Mat:7-11
(09:41:55) (Bill) Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you shall eat, nor about your body, what you shall put on. For life is more than food, and the body more than clothing.
(09:42:11) (Bill) Luke 12-23
(09:42:11) (BlackWolf) It cut you off, after "how much more will your Father who is in heaven give...." Bill. :o)
(09:42:51) (Bill) Or what man of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him!
(09:44:58) (Bill) Truly, I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, 'Be taken up and cast into the sea,' and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, it will be done for him. Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.
(09:45:31) (Bill) Mark11:23-24
(09:46:14) (Bill) lots of reason for us to meditate and become our true selves :o)
(09:47:54) (Bill) next wk. we'll be into ideals and the changes that happen within us when we meditate