Post by WalksInSpirit on Mar 26, 2007 14:06:58 GMT -5
Esoteric Astrology/Morning Stars/Colors Pt. I: 03-26-07
(02:30:15) (ron) now, if there is time, i'm starting off with esoteric astrology, followed with The Morning Stars, and perhpas with part 1 on Colors
(02:31:01) (ron) THE RAYS THROUGH THE SIGNS: AN INTRODUCTION
(02:31:28) (ron) THE SEVEN UNIVERSAL RAYS THROUGH THE TWELVE SOLAR SIGNS
(02:31:56) (ron) Esoteric astrology deals with mans links with his God. If we could set down its complete truths we could fill volumes. But esoteric astrology deals with the intangible side of life, wherein realms are indescribable, so much must be intuited.
(02:32:30) (ron) Here we are dealing with the esoteric approach to the signs, a searching one rather than a utilizing one. The esotericist has extracted the proper outlook and is delving deeper for meaningful knowledge. The search for the mystery that unlocks each signs purpose is never-ending.
(02:33:03) (ron) We are born for a path, with a mission to follow, and in most respects we are free to choose. But the choices remain with the bounds of the pattern and are made through the signs promises under a specific ray.
(02:33:40) (ron) Signs give man his characteristics, traits and tendencies. The tests of a sign come cyclically whenever re-evaluation is necessary. You are then searching for your higher Self. The deepest tribulations of a sign reflect as spiritual illumination. A sign may, through reflex action, manifest through the opposite characteristics.
(02:34:21) (ron) When one recognizes a negative aspect of a sign within one's character, nourish that part of ones thinking until you accomplish full understanding. For fuller spiritual development you should meditate on your signs set up to gain insight as to how you can turn away from the personal emphasis and turn toward ~other~ or group consciousness.
(02:35:19) (ron) You will feel a terrific need to renounce the weakness of your Moon’s sign; only when this is accomplished can the soul move forward in a leadership capacity. It is important to remember that each sign has traits of the previous sign in latency, there for you to draw upon positively or negatively.
(02:37:00) (ron) which seem to indicate to me, that we are drawing upon past life tendencies [looking back upon past behavior, ot the sign behind...for example, the sign before Virgo, would be Leo]
(02:37:37) (ron) You are described fully through your natal horoscope - the wheel of this incarnation - and you are striving to move forward sign by sign through successive reincarnations. When you respond negatively, you are of course reverting to previous influences.
(02:38:55) (ron) that is edxactly what Cayce said, that the wheel of this present incarnation dealt only with this incarnation...karmic tendencies maybe be shown, but not necessarily past lives...
(02:39:32) (ron) carry overs such as weaknesses and strengths, as well as talents from the past
(02:39:43) (ron) moving on
(02:39:49) (ron) You are described fully through your natal horoscope - the wheel of this incarnation - and you are striving to move forward sign by sign through successive reincarnations. When you respond negatively, you are of course reverting to previous influences.
(02:40:03) (ron) Which is always easier than moving ahead. However, the spiritually evolved man is an exception. He is at the point of the fourth initiation and nearing perfection, therefore the magnetism of his wheel is reversed. That is to say a Capricorn's positive inclination would be pulled towards Sagittarius.
(02:40:49) (ron) The spiritual man who has not reached that elevation of perfection {most have not} is struggling towards his following sign and is tempted periodically to revert to the previous one.
(02:41:25) (ron) struggling ahdead for the Virgo would be towards Libra
(02:41:44) (ron) Characteristics, like life, move in a gradual process. The Sun is in one sign, moves through another, and on and on.
(02:42:13) (ron) The Sun sign of the average man brings out the superficiality of that sign, but the spiritually evolved man is different. His actions also register through the opposite sign, such as the Pisces Sun delivering the Virgo type service where work is a joy and service is eagerly given.
(02:43:53) (ron) i don't know how to comment here, regarding the opposite sign...the concept is not clear to me on how to apply
(02:44:19) (ron) Now the spiritual initiates wheel is reversing. He advances through the sign behind his. This clarifies the Esoteric view, learned through the teachings of the Tibetan of the reverse wheel.
(02:46:30) (ron) now, i remember a conversation my excellent friend said to me...a spirit friend asked me if i wanted to reverse the wheel of life, referring to the astrology wheel...i don't remember what i said, but i know now what a responsibility that would be and what dedication
(02:47:01) (ron) not an easy task, and that could take a whole lifetime
(02:47:13) (ron) moving on
(02:47:40) (ron) It is easier to remember that the Soul evolves through the wheel clockwise from Aries to Pisces to Taurus whilst the Personality evolves from Aries to Taurus to Gemini. Once the antahkarana has been built, the personality or outer man follows the soul on the reversed wheel.
(02:48:23) (ron) that thread, or connection with spirit, the higher self
(02:48:50) (ron) To explain further, the spiritual Virgo would be evolving through the self conscious sign of Leo, where the personality is swallowed by the soul {this can happen only when the reversed horoscope has been earned}.
(02:49:19) (ron) So, then, evolving through Leo, the devotion would pour forth through the knowledge seeking sign of Aquarius, when he can spill his ethers over onto humanity for the hierarchy’s intentions.
(02:49:21) (~Blu) graphic description there
(02:49:37) (ron) oh, i see
(02:50:11) (ron) though, my mind can't quite handle that right now :)
(02:50:33) (ron) In the Universal sense, the seven Rays focus through man and are responsible for seven basic temperaments. All of us have our individual rays - the monad, soul, mental, astral and the physically related personality ray.
(02:50:56) (ron) That is, the personality functions through the brain, emotions, and mind. The monad ray is the constant factor, or unchanging ideal, and continues to charge~ the soul ray through its divine secretions.
(02:51:02) (Raleigh) what is monad?
(02:51:13) (Raleigh) oh / lol
(02:52:00) (~WalksInSpirit) MONAD: [n] a singular metaphysical entity from which material properties are said to derive
(02:52:08) (Raleigh) k tx
(02:52:21) (~WalksInSpirit) You're welcome!
(02:52:41) (ron) i would say that its the Higher Self that is being referred here...the Spirit...which is defined, i believe was the entity=spirit, mind and will...in eastern terms called Atman and Buddhi...i can look up the proper definition if you wish
(02:53:33) (~WalksInSpirit) I did, Ron
(02:53:40) (~WalksInSpirit) :-)
(02:53:43) (Raleigh) i know what it is tx ron / monad ive not heard before /
(02:55:13) (ron) The unity of One; but in Occultism it often means the unified triad, Atma-Buddhi-Manas, or the duad, Atma-Buddhi, that immortal pawt of man which reincarnates in the lower kingdoms, and greadually progresses through them to Man and then to the final goal - Nirvana...theosophical glossary
(02:55:37) (ron) i guess, i did pretty good after all with the definition :)
(02:55:48) (~Blu) yep!
(02:55:51) (ron) manas = mind
(02:56:01) (Raleigh) now i am confused ! / lol
(02:56:06) (ron) thus spirit...mind...will
(02:56:34) (ron) moving on
(02:56:39) (Raleigh) k / :)
(02:56:40) (ron) That is, the personality functions through the brain, emotions, and mind. The monad ray is the constant factor, or unchanging ideal, and continues to charge~ the soul ray through its divine secretions.
(02:56:51) (ron) The soul ray is the interior urge awaiting release through the personality's awareness. This astral ray is the motivation utilized on that plane whilst in the sleep state.
(02:57:39) (ron) later remind me to go thru each term...atma, buddhi and manas
(02:57:44) (ron) later
(02:57:45) (~Blu) ok
(02:57:49) (Raleigh) k tx
(02:58:00) (ron) There is then the greater all-encompassing picture which speaks to us of collective cosmic intentions as the rays focus through the twelve astrological signs. The seven Rays or expressions of ~will~ will energies are of humanitarian consequence and providing direction for all men as they filter through the signs of our solar system.
(02:58:59) (ron) All rays motivate group consciousness and motivate toward the ideal expression of pure intention which is hardly possible due to the rays themselves being impinged upon, and filtered on their way to us.
(03:00:08) (ron) To personality belongs the desire and characteristics brought over from past lives. Soul creates pressure {motivation} for spiritual unfoldment.
(03:00:18) (ron) The conflicting karma can be seen as the personality tending to present outward conditions resulting from past life desires, while the soul is pressing from within for expression {divine right} as it seeks to awaken the personality to greater heights - the upward climb to perfection.
(03:00:47) (ron) These energies issue their ideal expression through all twelve signs, however certain signs are more receptive to a ray's energy than others. This is largely due to the signs characteristics. Some lend themselves more readily than others for a particular expression of ~will~ to manifest.
(03:01:14) (ron) We are all learning with the intention of increasing our knowledge and in so doing when we have increased knowledge we are broadening the scope of our mental plane {the soul's medium of contact}.
(03:01:41) (ron) When the overall picture is impressed upon us we may become more deeply concerned with the reasons of other men’s being. We are all servants to one another. For perfection we need knowledge. The more we study, the more frequent and fertile our illumination becomes.
(03:02:19) (ron) As all rays focus through all signs, our reception is continual and complete. The rays are networks of light as divinity expressed through us, as we can receive them at our present level of consciousness. END
(03:02:45) (~Blu) Ron thisis so strange because this goes hand in hand with what I want to present on thursday
(03:02:47) (ron) now, The Morning Stars...a brief article from the ARE
(03:02:48) (Diane) TY ron
(03:02:59) (ron) ok Blu
(03:03:24) (Roz-) synchronicity
(03:03:27) (ron) with appreciation diane
(03:03:38) (ron) right
(03:03:58) (Roz-) do a great job Ron
(03:04:00) (Raleigh) very good ron / i got a handle on the basic idea /
(03:04:11) (ron) ok ral
(03:04:27) (Raleigh) and i needed the message looks like as well / :)
(03:04:32) (ron) there is more regarding esoteric astrology and i have all the signs etc
(03:04:54) (ron) were are looking into the concept view
(03:05:36) (ron) i will give the definitions after this
(02:31:01) (ron) THE RAYS THROUGH THE SIGNS: AN INTRODUCTION
(02:31:28) (ron) THE SEVEN UNIVERSAL RAYS THROUGH THE TWELVE SOLAR SIGNS
(02:31:56) (ron) Esoteric astrology deals with mans links with his God. If we could set down its complete truths we could fill volumes. But esoteric astrology deals with the intangible side of life, wherein realms are indescribable, so much must be intuited.
(02:32:30) (ron) Here we are dealing with the esoteric approach to the signs, a searching one rather than a utilizing one. The esotericist has extracted the proper outlook and is delving deeper for meaningful knowledge. The search for the mystery that unlocks each signs purpose is never-ending.
(02:33:03) (ron) We are born for a path, with a mission to follow, and in most respects we are free to choose. But the choices remain with the bounds of the pattern and are made through the signs promises under a specific ray.
(02:33:40) (ron) Signs give man his characteristics, traits and tendencies. The tests of a sign come cyclically whenever re-evaluation is necessary. You are then searching for your higher Self. The deepest tribulations of a sign reflect as spiritual illumination. A sign may, through reflex action, manifest through the opposite characteristics.
(02:34:21) (ron) When one recognizes a negative aspect of a sign within one's character, nourish that part of ones thinking until you accomplish full understanding. For fuller spiritual development you should meditate on your signs set up to gain insight as to how you can turn away from the personal emphasis and turn toward ~other~ or group consciousness.
(02:35:19) (ron) You will feel a terrific need to renounce the weakness of your Moon’s sign; only when this is accomplished can the soul move forward in a leadership capacity. It is important to remember that each sign has traits of the previous sign in latency, there for you to draw upon positively or negatively.
(02:37:00) (ron) which seem to indicate to me, that we are drawing upon past life tendencies [looking back upon past behavior, ot the sign behind...for example, the sign before Virgo, would be Leo]
(02:37:37) (ron) You are described fully through your natal horoscope - the wheel of this incarnation - and you are striving to move forward sign by sign through successive reincarnations. When you respond negatively, you are of course reverting to previous influences.
(02:38:55) (ron) that is edxactly what Cayce said, that the wheel of this present incarnation dealt only with this incarnation...karmic tendencies maybe be shown, but not necessarily past lives...
(02:39:32) (ron) carry overs such as weaknesses and strengths, as well as talents from the past
(02:39:43) (ron) moving on
(02:39:49) (ron) You are described fully through your natal horoscope - the wheel of this incarnation - and you are striving to move forward sign by sign through successive reincarnations. When you respond negatively, you are of course reverting to previous influences.
(02:40:03) (ron) Which is always easier than moving ahead. However, the spiritually evolved man is an exception. He is at the point of the fourth initiation and nearing perfection, therefore the magnetism of his wheel is reversed. That is to say a Capricorn's positive inclination would be pulled towards Sagittarius.
(02:40:49) (ron) The spiritual man who has not reached that elevation of perfection {most have not} is struggling towards his following sign and is tempted periodically to revert to the previous one.
(02:41:25) (ron) struggling ahdead for the Virgo would be towards Libra
(02:41:44) (ron) Characteristics, like life, move in a gradual process. The Sun is in one sign, moves through another, and on and on.
(02:42:13) (ron) The Sun sign of the average man brings out the superficiality of that sign, but the spiritually evolved man is different. His actions also register through the opposite sign, such as the Pisces Sun delivering the Virgo type service where work is a joy and service is eagerly given.
(02:43:53) (ron) i don't know how to comment here, regarding the opposite sign...the concept is not clear to me on how to apply
(02:44:19) (ron) Now the spiritual initiates wheel is reversing. He advances through the sign behind his. This clarifies the Esoteric view, learned through the teachings of the Tibetan of the reverse wheel.
(02:46:30) (ron) now, i remember a conversation my excellent friend said to me...a spirit friend asked me if i wanted to reverse the wheel of life, referring to the astrology wheel...i don't remember what i said, but i know now what a responsibility that would be and what dedication
(02:47:01) (ron) not an easy task, and that could take a whole lifetime
(02:47:13) (ron) moving on
(02:47:40) (ron) It is easier to remember that the Soul evolves through the wheel clockwise from Aries to Pisces to Taurus whilst the Personality evolves from Aries to Taurus to Gemini. Once the antahkarana has been built, the personality or outer man follows the soul on the reversed wheel.
(02:48:23) (ron) that thread, or connection with spirit, the higher self
(02:48:50) (ron) To explain further, the spiritual Virgo would be evolving through the self conscious sign of Leo, where the personality is swallowed by the soul {this can happen only when the reversed horoscope has been earned}.
(02:49:19) (ron) So, then, evolving through Leo, the devotion would pour forth through the knowledge seeking sign of Aquarius, when he can spill his ethers over onto humanity for the hierarchy’s intentions.
(02:49:21) (~Blu) graphic description there
(02:49:37) (ron) oh, i see
(02:50:11) (ron) though, my mind can't quite handle that right now :)
(02:50:33) (ron) In the Universal sense, the seven Rays focus through man and are responsible for seven basic temperaments. All of us have our individual rays - the monad, soul, mental, astral and the physically related personality ray.
(02:50:56) (ron) That is, the personality functions through the brain, emotions, and mind. The monad ray is the constant factor, or unchanging ideal, and continues to charge~ the soul ray through its divine secretions.
(02:51:02) (Raleigh) what is monad?
(02:51:13) (Raleigh) oh / lol
(02:52:00) (~WalksInSpirit) MONAD: [n] a singular metaphysical entity from which material properties are said to derive
(02:52:08) (Raleigh) k tx
(02:52:21) (~WalksInSpirit) You're welcome!
(02:52:41) (ron) i would say that its the Higher Self that is being referred here...the Spirit...which is defined, i believe was the entity=spirit, mind and will...in eastern terms called Atman and Buddhi...i can look up the proper definition if you wish
(02:53:33) (~WalksInSpirit) I did, Ron
(02:53:40) (~WalksInSpirit) :-)
(02:53:43) (Raleigh) i know what it is tx ron / monad ive not heard before /
(02:55:13) (ron) The unity of One; but in Occultism it often means the unified triad, Atma-Buddhi-Manas, or the duad, Atma-Buddhi, that immortal pawt of man which reincarnates in the lower kingdoms, and greadually progresses through them to Man and then to the final goal - Nirvana...theosophical glossary
(02:55:37) (ron) i guess, i did pretty good after all with the definition :)
(02:55:48) (~Blu) yep!
(02:55:51) (ron) manas = mind
(02:56:01) (Raleigh) now i am confused ! / lol
(02:56:06) (ron) thus spirit...mind...will
(02:56:34) (ron) moving on
(02:56:39) (Raleigh) k / :)
(02:56:40) (ron) That is, the personality functions through the brain, emotions, and mind. The monad ray is the constant factor, or unchanging ideal, and continues to charge~ the soul ray through its divine secretions.
(02:56:51) (ron) The soul ray is the interior urge awaiting release through the personality's awareness. This astral ray is the motivation utilized on that plane whilst in the sleep state.
(02:57:39) (ron) later remind me to go thru each term...atma, buddhi and manas
(02:57:44) (ron) later
(02:57:45) (~Blu) ok
(02:57:49) (Raleigh) k tx
(02:58:00) (ron) There is then the greater all-encompassing picture which speaks to us of collective cosmic intentions as the rays focus through the twelve astrological signs. The seven Rays or expressions of ~will~ will energies are of humanitarian consequence and providing direction for all men as they filter through the signs of our solar system.
(02:58:59) (ron) All rays motivate group consciousness and motivate toward the ideal expression of pure intention which is hardly possible due to the rays themselves being impinged upon, and filtered on their way to us.
(03:00:08) (ron) To personality belongs the desire and characteristics brought over from past lives. Soul creates pressure {motivation} for spiritual unfoldment.
(03:00:18) (ron) The conflicting karma can be seen as the personality tending to present outward conditions resulting from past life desires, while the soul is pressing from within for expression {divine right} as it seeks to awaken the personality to greater heights - the upward climb to perfection.
(03:00:47) (ron) These energies issue their ideal expression through all twelve signs, however certain signs are more receptive to a ray's energy than others. This is largely due to the signs characteristics. Some lend themselves more readily than others for a particular expression of ~will~ to manifest.
(03:01:14) (ron) We are all learning with the intention of increasing our knowledge and in so doing when we have increased knowledge we are broadening the scope of our mental plane {the soul's medium of contact}.
(03:01:41) (ron) When the overall picture is impressed upon us we may become more deeply concerned with the reasons of other men’s being. We are all servants to one another. For perfection we need knowledge. The more we study, the more frequent and fertile our illumination becomes.
(03:02:19) (ron) As all rays focus through all signs, our reception is continual and complete. The rays are networks of light as divinity expressed through us, as we can receive them at our present level of consciousness. END
(03:02:45) (~Blu) Ron thisis so strange because this goes hand in hand with what I want to present on thursday
(03:02:47) (ron) now, The Morning Stars...a brief article from the ARE
(03:02:48) (Diane) TY ron
(03:02:59) (ron) ok Blu
(03:03:24) (Roz-) synchronicity
(03:03:27) (ron) with appreciation diane
(03:03:38) (ron) right
(03:03:58) (Roz-) do a great job Ron
(03:04:00) (Raleigh) very good ron / i got a handle on the basic idea /
(03:04:11) (ron) ok ral
(03:04:27) (Raleigh) and i needed the message looks like as well / :)
(03:04:32) (ron) there is more regarding esoteric astrology and i have all the signs etc
(03:04:54) (ron) were are looking into the concept view
(03:05:36) (ron) i will give the definitions after this