Post by WalksInSpirit on Aug 14, 2006 19:34:30 GMT -5
Astrology Chat: 08-14-06
ron says: you guys, i'm going to start again...is that ok?
true_eagle says: sure]
Lynn says: ty
Wanda says: I can only stay a minute
ron says: THE PINEAL GLAND
ron says: This gland at the base of the skull, situated a little above the pituitary, is the "Mind of Christ" center. When this center has been truly awakened, one may experience holy communion.
ron says: This center, when stimulated daily, brings seership or prophecy. Through this center comes the ability to remember past experiences in the earth. From this center comes the light that goes to the pituitary, spills over, cleansing and purifying the body-mind and soul. This is also the symbolic "fountain of youth" which Ponce de Leon sought.
ron says: If this center is kept active through meditation, the body will keep itself rejuvenated for as long as it is beneficial to the soul.
ron says: It is at this center that the mind of the soul meets the Holy Spirit, the Comforter. This was the experience of the disciples on the day of Pentecost. Following the descent of the Holy Ghost, they all began to prophesy and heal.
ron says: The descent of the Holy Ghost enabled the disciples to overcome fear and to speak in tongues that all could understand. It enabled them to endure every extreme of suffering and persecution.
ron says: It endowed them with visions and dreams of a precognitive and retrocognitive nature; it brought them guidance, direction and encouragement. When their wills were aligned with God's will, through the pineal came the Spirit of Christ, cleansing and raising the vibrations of all the lower centers.
ron says: brought them guidance, direction and encouragement. When their wills were aligned with God's will,
ron says: Holy Communion as practiced in the churches is the formalized ritual of this inward communion, which is possible to every child of God.
ron says: The creative holy force rising to the pineal center is the bread from within, or His body. The Holy Ghost descending is His Holy Spirit, His blood, or the Spirit of His blood. These are blended at the area of the pineal.
ron says: To partake of His body and His blood is to be sustained by the holy forces within, which have been purified by Him! It is through trying to live His purposes, to walk in His footsteps, to shed the blood of all selfish physical desires, that we inwardly experience true communion through the descent of the Holy Ghost.
ron says: After Jesus' baptism in the river Jordan, it was the descent of the Holy Ghost in the form of a dove which brought Him the necessary fortitude to undergo the crucifixion, thus proving forever the dominion of LOVE over hell, death and the grave.
ron says: The Holy Ghost is the Holy Comforter promised by Jesus when He said in John 16: 13 “But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of Truth which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me; and ye also shall bear witness because ye have been with me from the beginning.“
ron says: All Christians have the Christ-consciousness, said Edgar Cayce, for we know the way; but only those who practice the way may be said to have the Christ Spirit, or the Christ mind.
ron says: but only those who practice the way
true_eagle says: so very well said !
ron says: With the mind of Christ comes wisdom, for the individual can then measure that which bears the mark of God, or good, by the degree to which it lifts his soul to a greater awareness of God. For only through the Son, the pineal, can we come to the Father, represented by the pituitary gland.
Lynn says: key word "practice" we don´t have to be perfect.
Wanda says: just keep on trying
ron says: but one must practice but strive towards the ideal
diane says: amen to that
true_eagle says: yes .. the truth an the light
ron says: THE PITUITARY GLAND
ron says: This gland is the master-gland of the body. It is situated between the eyes at the center of the brain. The pituitary is referred to in the readings as the seat of contact with the Father, the superconscious, which is not of the earthly forces at all. It is through the pituitary, the highest spiritual center, that ultimate awakening comes.
Wanda says: got to run. Thanks Ron. Just the inspiration I needed
ron says: bye wanda glad you stopped by
ron says: In the mental, it is that which gives judgment and understanding, tolerance and relationships to the determining factors. Hence, some grow old gracefully, some tolerantly, some fussily, some very meanly. All these are expressions of the dominant force (which) passed from the innate to the animate, to its full completion in the individual experiences of the entity.
Lynn says: hope I´m not doing it meanly, as you said growing old. lol
ron says: This is the influence also of the activity spoken of as the door through which the old men may dream dreams and the young men may see visions." (Joel 2:28 ) (281-58)
ron says: As this center becomes more and more purified, healing by the laying on of hands becomes possible. Healing through the power of the spoken word may also be acquired, for this knowledge makes possible the fulfillment of an exalted purpose, even as Jesus lifted the understanding of those in His day from despair to hope, from sin to holiness, from weakness to strength, from selfishness to selflessness and from darkness to light.
ron says: What were His promises to all of us through the disciples? “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do because I go unto my Father.”
true_eagle says: the knowing .. i call it !
Leon says: Yes, but when they got what they wanted , they split.
ron says: and greater works than these shall he do
Lynn says: the knowing, I like that
Lynn says: Leon, and returned to give their lives for Jesus
true_eagle says: yes . an u r blessed.. if u have it ^i^
ron says: these shall he do because I go unto my Father.
Leon says: Yes, here I am 2000 yrs. later
Lynn says: a roman soldier waves to you, Leon
ron says: but, what happened to them when they received the gift of the holy spirit?
Lynn says: their fear was gone
diane says: they communicated
ron says: It is through the pituitary that one may enter the very presence of God. One may sense His Presence first as an experience apart from self, and then, with the merging of the “I Am” within with the great “I Am That I Am,” there comes the Oneness with God, for now He shares Himself with you, that you may know Him truly.
ron says: right lynn
diane says: all languages understood their words
Leon says: Thanks for the blessing Lynn
Lynn says: Call me Marcus,Leon. lol
ron says: yes lynn and diane
ron says: The readings indicate the following experience, that is also a sign that we are making practical application of spiritual law.
true_eagle has left #Fireside.
ron says: As progress is made, as the understanding comes more and more; never, never, never does it make the manifested entity other than the more humble, the more meek, the more long-suffering, the more patient. Of this ye may be sure." (281-31 )
diane says: yes, much more humble
ron says: more humble, the more meek, the more long-suffering, the more patient.
ron says: my lord...i'm so tired
diane says: yep
ron says: ok...take a little break and share your thoughts...i have to change to another file
Lynn says: class will soon be over and you can rest, ron.
diane says: of all the long suffering ron?
ron says: lory is back...i will review everything in about 15-20 minutes
ron says: REWARDS OF MEDITATION
ron says: [7] Meditation brings an increase in vigor and improved health. An expansion of consciousness is achieved. With the expansion of consciousness comes the realization that we are in Eternity NOW!
ron says: i guess that is why i see daily my past
ron says: The readings say, ETERNITY IS THE REALM OF THE RIGHTEOUS. From this we gather that Eternity is a dimension, not of time but grace. This cannot be wholly understood in this realm, any more than God can be wholly comprehended by a soul in its earthly state. But the soul is able to comprehend that it belongs to a much wider world than the one which it now inhabits.
diane says: hmmm
ron says: A shifting of consciousness from the material and the selfish to the non-material and the selfless takes place.
ron says: There comes also the consolation that God not only has faith in you, but that He can and does make noble use of you.
Lory says: What a blessing.
ron says: yes. i can get on others nerves lol
ron says: makes good use of me lol
ron says: There comes also the consolation that God not only has faith in you, but that He can and does make noble use of you.
ron says: We receive more opportunities to serve as more and more our soul puts to good use the knowledge it has gained.
ron says: A greater comprehension of the errors in self and the goodness in others is born, as increasingly His Spirit manifests in the daily life.
ron says: you can say tha again
ron says: A greater comprehension of the errors in self and the goodness in others is born, as increasingly His Spirit manifests in the daily life.
ron says: A greater psychic sensitivity to the problems and needs of others enables us to be of greater service to our fellowmen.
Leon says: ?? I've just developed an appretiation of you ron from your sharing.
ron says: thank you leon...i like compliments :)
ron says: Greater, too, are the opportunities to meet our own shortcomings by stepping up the tempo of karmic repayment (debts or sins left over from other lives). This restitution sometimes takes the form referred to by the mystics as “the dark night of the soul.“ According to Evelyn Underhill, this experience, as with all others, comes in order that the soul may develop greater virtues.
ron says: This also explains why, when a soul has become seriously determined to better itself, that material problems seem to multiply. How else can one develop spiritual muscles or spiritual fibre, except by constantly exercising them?
diane says: No pain, no gain, lol
ron says: you can say that again
ron says: This also explains why, when a soul has become seriously determined to better itself, that material problems seem to multiply. How else can one develop spiritual muscles or spiritual fibre, except by constantly exercising them?
ron says: you can say that again
ron says: material problems seem to multiply
diane says: as we resolve one challange, others pop up
ron says: This should make it easier to understand Edgar Cayce when he replied to a question about the process of healing:
ron says: i'll be backing up again for you and others
ron says: Here let's analyze healing for the moment to those who must consciously see and reason, see a material demonstration, occasionally at least!
ron says: Each atomic force of a physical body is made up of the units of positive and negative forces which bring it into a material plane. These are of the ethers or atomic forces, being electrical in nature as they enter into a material basis, or become matter... in its ability to take on or throw off.
ron says: So as a group may raise the atomic vibrations which made for those positive forces that bring divine forces into action in a material plane, those that are destructive are broken down by the raising of that vibration I This is done through Creative Forces, which are God in manifestation I
ron says: Hence, as self brings those little things necessary, as each is found to be necessary, for position, posture, time, period, place, name, understanding; study each in their respective spheres.
ron says: So does the entity become the healer... There must be raised in each individual that consciousness of the indwelling, or to put it in a material manner - the superseding of the Christ Consciousness in that matter that would be healed, whether by its injection by those who through cooperation raise such vibrations in an individual, or through that of one individual raising in self.
ron says: So all these receive their considerations, as has been given - to whom ye speak, how ye speak, where, when, and how - these must all be considered, would one not become arrogant, would one not become self-centered, self condemning. Self surrendering first, then raise the consciousness that will supersede, will overcome - for, as He overcame even death, so may ye in His name overcome the ills that the flesh is heir to, through its advent into a material world.
ron says: . 'I am not of this world. Ye are not of this world, if ye abide in Me - but 1 may only be manifest in the material world through thine own raising of that consciousness. As 1 abide in the Father, and ye abide in Me, 1 in ye, ye in Me, we may bring that to pass as ye seek:" (281-3A. 10 & 11)
true_eagle says: the bigger picture
ron says: The realization dawns that indeed there is no death. Death is but the separation, in consciousness, of the soul from God. When this has been overcome there is no death, for consciousness is continuous in whatever plane one manifests.
ron says: IN MY FATHER’S HOUSE ARE MANY MANSIONS; IF IT WERE NOT SO, I WOULD HAVE TOLD YOU. I GO TO PREPARE A PLACE FOR YOU. AND IF I GO AND PREPARE A PLACE FOR YOU, I WILL COME AGAIN AND RECEIVE YOU UNTO MYSELF; THAT WERE I AM THERE YE MAY BE ALSO. AND WHITHER I GO, YE KNOW, AND THE WAY YE KNOW. (John 14:2-4.)
ron says: Death of the physical body is no longer a terror to be feared, for it is but the passing of the soul into another dimension through another door, for further growth and development. Life and death have taken on their true meaning. Neither is to be feared; both offer a glorious opportunity to love and be loved!
true_eagle says: i know ..
Lory says: Death is a new beginning.
ron says: It has always seemed strange to me that Christianity, which teaches heaven hereafter, has so few Christians who want to go I here! Death is delayed as long as possible, even at the cost of unbearable suffering. It is as if we want to believe, but cannot.
ron says: lol...isn't that so true
ron says: Through meditation, we can become familiar with these other planes. Growing sensitivity enables us to meet occasionally with a loved one who, having passed on, no longer hopes for a life hereafter, but is enjoying it to the fullest!
ron says: “He maketh me to lie down in green pastures.” Certainly the I,ord gives rest to those who seek Him. For the promise has also been that He will not give us greater burdens than we can bear. Only those unfortunates who abandon themselves to a Godless world, where they must inevitably founder, are driven to commit suicide.
true_eagle says: yea ron .. i beleve .. an hey ..i cant wait !
true_eagle says: an yea i walk thu the vally of death i fear no evil .. now thats faith !
ron says: correction?...founder should be? the spelling
ron says: flounder
true_eagle says: k
ron says: “He leadeth me beside the still waters.“ Even as sheep will not drink from turbulent waters, so does He lead us to the peaceful water of the life within. Meditation leads us to the water that refreshes us mentally, physically, and spiritually, giving us peace.
ron says: “He restoreth my soul.” When we seek Him with all our heart, mind and soul; then and only then can He guide us homeward. In all recorded history, we know of only one whose soul was fully restored to His side. This was Jesus, who became the Christ. He truly possessed His own soul, for He gained complete control of it.
ron says: Having learned to control Himself, He was in complete control of the universe and its laws. He was not subject to the law of gravity, or any other law of nature. They became subject to Him. He stilled the storm. He walked on the water. He raised the dead. He healed the sick and cast out demons. He multiplied the loaves and fishes, and He walked away from their midst when they sought to push Him over the brow of the hill. (Luke 4:29-30).
true_eagle says: tho preparest a table.... .. o yea .. i wana b there !
ron says: He was precognitive about Himself and others. He was telepathic as He read the minds of the Pharisees. He was clairvoyant as He directed the fishermen where to cast their nets. He used the power of exorcism as he bade the possessing spirits to come out. He was all things to all men. And his admonition to us was “Be ye perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.“ Only then can our souls be restored to their rightful home.
ron says: “Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil; for thou art with me.“ This promise is fulfilled as soon as we learn to seek Him in meditation. If God be with you, who or what can harm you? To lose the body is nothing. You have already discarded many, and you feel no more concern for them, now, than you would for a pair of your worn out baby shoes.
true_eagle says: ]an i will dwell in the houseof the lord .... forever ^i^... thats the promas
ron says: If God be with you, who or what can harm you?
ron says: that was for me
true_eagle says: ty
ron says: “Thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.“ The “rod” is the adversity the Lord permits to help strengthen our moral fibre. “Whom the Lord loveth He chasteneth.” (Rev. 3:10). Only through adversities do we come to know our weaknesses and our strength. False optimism leads us sadly astray more often than it tempers us.
true_eagle says: goodness an mercy
ron says: It is when we realize that "problems" are the kiss of God upon the soul, that we learn to be grateful for lessons well learned. Being human, we probably also add, "But am I glad it's over!"
ron says: phewww....wiping forehead over here
ron says: The “staff” is the staff within. The endocrine glands, as related to spiritual growth, form a symbolic staff - the pineal and pituitary representing the crook. Nowhere does one receive more comfort than from within, where He dwells. When all earthly help fails, as it has a periodic habit of doing, He stands ready.
true_eagle says: well done ron ... as jesus would say . a loyal servent ^i^
ron says: If we are truly making an effort to obey His laws, we have but to seek, and we shall find Him. He will stay with us and work with us, guiding us in all things, AS LONG AS WE KEEP TRYING. Only through us can the Kingdom of God come into the earth, led by the Christ Spirit. Works and faith are equally important to the preparation.
ron says: The table, also, is within. It bears the bread of life that Jesus spoke of when He said, 'I have bread ye know not of.” It is this spiritual force which sustains us constantly. Call it the hormones of the endocrine glands if you will, those hormones that bring health to the body, mind and spirit; names are only labels. What we think, eat, and do, makes us what we are mentally, physically and spiritually, no matter how we put it into words.
true_eagle says: he that belevith in me !
true_eagle says: or she
ron says: 'The presence of mine enemies” - who are our enemies? Our own selfish desires! All of them are waste products, dross from the lower four centers of the body, which are referred to as the Four Beasts in the Book of Revelation (4:6-9). These four lower centers are the gonads, the cells of Leydig, the adrenals and the thymus.
ron says: “We are our own worst enemies” has become a cliche, but it contains such truth that if it were universally understood it would change the nature of mankind.
ron says: In the New Testament, anointing is treated as a symbolic act by the Holy Spirit of God. In John 20 we read “but ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.” The anointing of the "holy one" referred to, relating to the pineal and pituitary glands.
ron says: When the "bread and wine" are partaken of at the level of the pineal gland, this is the beginning of true communion with His Spirit, the Holy Spirit. It is only after this descent of the Holy Ghost that one experiences the anointing until “my cup runneth over.“
ron says: “And I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever.“ Where is the house of the Lord? Jesus said, 'In my Father's house are many mansions.' These "mansions" of God, these "pillars in the temple" are levels of consciousness. Where is consciousness? Within the very body you now occupy, wherever you are! “'For ye are the temple of the living God.” As God hath said, “I will dwell in them, and walk in them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.' (II Cor. 6: 16)
ron says: Therefore, whether you are in this earth, or in another dimension, the "house of the Lord" is the shell you occupy. If the body is in pain, if the mind is in torment, if the soul is without peace, then sin lies at its own door. For while God wills that no soul shall perish, He will not force man to seek Him.
ron says: END...i will review for lory and others....a little bit............take a brief break and conversation
ron says: i will continue ith this subject next week
Leon says: When the student is ready, the words of truth will appear. I'm experiencing comfort.
T_E says: WOOOOOOO ... igot wisked away by a god e-mail
ron says: ok mike...i will do a little review...taking conversational break
T_E says: k ty ron
ron says: right now
T_E says: yea me .. il send it to u . how wied is that
ron says: ok mike...this was a very moving session for me...touched my heart
ron says: i'll be doing a little review for you diane and lory etc
T_E says: me to ron . ole devil .. dont want me here . very moving ... u got to the point ron
diane says: ty ron. you're a jewel
Leon says: Can this material be retrieved somehow,ron??
T_E says: yes gang he is ... the spirit is in him
ron says: we are just having a brief conversational break
T_E says: right word di
diane says: A jewel, and/or , gem. lol
ron says: yes leon...i'll be sending this chat to WIS's site for him to post
true_eagle says: sure]
Lynn says: ty
Wanda says: I can only stay a minute
ron says: THE PINEAL GLAND
ron says: This gland at the base of the skull, situated a little above the pituitary, is the "Mind of Christ" center. When this center has been truly awakened, one may experience holy communion.
ron says: This center, when stimulated daily, brings seership or prophecy. Through this center comes the ability to remember past experiences in the earth. From this center comes the light that goes to the pituitary, spills over, cleansing and purifying the body-mind and soul. This is also the symbolic "fountain of youth" which Ponce de Leon sought.
ron says: If this center is kept active through meditation, the body will keep itself rejuvenated for as long as it is beneficial to the soul.
ron says: It is at this center that the mind of the soul meets the Holy Spirit, the Comforter. This was the experience of the disciples on the day of Pentecost. Following the descent of the Holy Ghost, they all began to prophesy and heal.
ron says: The descent of the Holy Ghost enabled the disciples to overcome fear and to speak in tongues that all could understand. It enabled them to endure every extreme of suffering and persecution.
ron says: It endowed them with visions and dreams of a precognitive and retrocognitive nature; it brought them guidance, direction and encouragement. When their wills were aligned with God's will, through the pineal came the Spirit of Christ, cleansing and raising the vibrations of all the lower centers.
ron says: brought them guidance, direction and encouragement. When their wills were aligned with God's will,
ron says: Holy Communion as practiced in the churches is the formalized ritual of this inward communion, which is possible to every child of God.
ron says: The creative holy force rising to the pineal center is the bread from within, or His body. The Holy Ghost descending is His Holy Spirit, His blood, or the Spirit of His blood. These are blended at the area of the pineal.
ron says: To partake of His body and His blood is to be sustained by the holy forces within, which have been purified by Him! It is through trying to live His purposes, to walk in His footsteps, to shed the blood of all selfish physical desires, that we inwardly experience true communion through the descent of the Holy Ghost.
ron says: After Jesus' baptism in the river Jordan, it was the descent of the Holy Ghost in the form of a dove which brought Him the necessary fortitude to undergo the crucifixion, thus proving forever the dominion of LOVE over hell, death and the grave.
ron says: The Holy Ghost is the Holy Comforter promised by Jesus when He said in John 16: 13 “But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of Truth which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me; and ye also shall bear witness because ye have been with me from the beginning.“
ron says: All Christians have the Christ-consciousness, said Edgar Cayce, for we know the way; but only those who practice the way may be said to have the Christ Spirit, or the Christ mind.
ron says: but only those who practice the way
true_eagle says: so very well said !
ron says: With the mind of Christ comes wisdom, for the individual can then measure that which bears the mark of God, or good, by the degree to which it lifts his soul to a greater awareness of God. For only through the Son, the pineal, can we come to the Father, represented by the pituitary gland.
Lynn says: key word "practice" we don´t have to be perfect.
Wanda says: just keep on trying
ron says: but one must practice but strive towards the ideal
diane says: amen to that
true_eagle says: yes .. the truth an the light
ron says: THE PITUITARY GLAND
ron says: This gland is the master-gland of the body. It is situated between the eyes at the center of the brain. The pituitary is referred to in the readings as the seat of contact with the Father, the superconscious, which is not of the earthly forces at all. It is through the pituitary, the highest spiritual center, that ultimate awakening comes.
Wanda says: got to run. Thanks Ron. Just the inspiration I needed
ron says: bye wanda glad you stopped by
ron says: In the mental, it is that which gives judgment and understanding, tolerance and relationships to the determining factors. Hence, some grow old gracefully, some tolerantly, some fussily, some very meanly. All these are expressions of the dominant force (which) passed from the innate to the animate, to its full completion in the individual experiences of the entity.
Lynn says: hope I´m not doing it meanly, as you said growing old. lol
ron says: This is the influence also of the activity spoken of as the door through which the old men may dream dreams and the young men may see visions." (Joel 2:28 ) (281-58)
ron says: As this center becomes more and more purified, healing by the laying on of hands becomes possible. Healing through the power of the spoken word may also be acquired, for this knowledge makes possible the fulfillment of an exalted purpose, even as Jesus lifted the understanding of those in His day from despair to hope, from sin to holiness, from weakness to strength, from selfishness to selflessness and from darkness to light.
ron says: What were His promises to all of us through the disciples? “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do because I go unto my Father.”
true_eagle says: the knowing .. i call it !
Leon says: Yes, but when they got what they wanted , they split.
ron says: and greater works than these shall he do
Lynn says: the knowing, I like that
Lynn says: Leon, and returned to give their lives for Jesus
true_eagle says: yes . an u r blessed.. if u have it ^i^
ron says: these shall he do because I go unto my Father.
Leon says: Yes, here I am 2000 yrs. later
Lynn says: a roman soldier waves to you, Leon
ron says: but, what happened to them when they received the gift of the holy spirit?
Lynn says: their fear was gone
diane says: they communicated
ron says: It is through the pituitary that one may enter the very presence of God. One may sense His Presence first as an experience apart from self, and then, with the merging of the “I Am” within with the great “I Am That I Am,” there comes the Oneness with God, for now He shares Himself with you, that you may know Him truly.
ron says: right lynn
diane says: all languages understood their words
Leon says: Thanks for the blessing Lynn
Lynn says: Call me Marcus,Leon. lol
ron says: yes lynn and diane
ron says: The readings indicate the following experience, that is also a sign that we are making practical application of spiritual law.
true_eagle has left #Fireside.
ron says: As progress is made, as the understanding comes more and more; never, never, never does it make the manifested entity other than the more humble, the more meek, the more long-suffering, the more patient. Of this ye may be sure." (281-31 )
diane says: yes, much more humble
ron says: more humble, the more meek, the more long-suffering, the more patient.
ron says: my lord...i'm so tired
diane says: yep
ron says: ok...take a little break and share your thoughts...i have to change to another file
Lynn says: class will soon be over and you can rest, ron.
diane says: of all the long suffering ron?
ron says: lory is back...i will review everything in about 15-20 minutes
ron says: REWARDS OF MEDITATION
ron says: [7] Meditation brings an increase in vigor and improved health. An expansion of consciousness is achieved. With the expansion of consciousness comes the realization that we are in Eternity NOW!
ron says: i guess that is why i see daily my past
ron says: The readings say, ETERNITY IS THE REALM OF THE RIGHTEOUS. From this we gather that Eternity is a dimension, not of time but grace. This cannot be wholly understood in this realm, any more than God can be wholly comprehended by a soul in its earthly state. But the soul is able to comprehend that it belongs to a much wider world than the one which it now inhabits.
diane says: hmmm
ron says: A shifting of consciousness from the material and the selfish to the non-material and the selfless takes place.
ron says: There comes also the consolation that God not only has faith in you, but that He can and does make noble use of you.
Lory says: What a blessing.
ron says: yes. i can get on others nerves lol
ron says: makes good use of me lol
ron says: There comes also the consolation that God not only has faith in you, but that He can and does make noble use of you.
ron says: We receive more opportunities to serve as more and more our soul puts to good use the knowledge it has gained.
ron says: A greater comprehension of the errors in self and the goodness in others is born, as increasingly His Spirit manifests in the daily life.
ron says: you can say tha again
ron says: A greater comprehension of the errors in self and the goodness in others is born, as increasingly His Spirit manifests in the daily life.
ron says: A greater psychic sensitivity to the problems and needs of others enables us to be of greater service to our fellowmen.
Leon says: ?? I've just developed an appretiation of you ron from your sharing.
ron says: thank you leon...i like compliments :)
ron says: Greater, too, are the opportunities to meet our own shortcomings by stepping up the tempo of karmic repayment (debts or sins left over from other lives). This restitution sometimes takes the form referred to by the mystics as “the dark night of the soul.“ According to Evelyn Underhill, this experience, as with all others, comes in order that the soul may develop greater virtues.
ron says: This also explains why, when a soul has become seriously determined to better itself, that material problems seem to multiply. How else can one develop spiritual muscles or spiritual fibre, except by constantly exercising them?
diane says: No pain, no gain, lol
ron says: you can say that again
ron says: This also explains why, when a soul has become seriously determined to better itself, that material problems seem to multiply. How else can one develop spiritual muscles or spiritual fibre, except by constantly exercising them?
ron says: you can say that again
ron says: material problems seem to multiply
diane says: as we resolve one challange, others pop up
ron says: This should make it easier to understand Edgar Cayce when he replied to a question about the process of healing:
ron says: i'll be backing up again for you and others
ron says: Here let's analyze healing for the moment to those who must consciously see and reason, see a material demonstration, occasionally at least!
ron says: Each atomic force of a physical body is made up of the units of positive and negative forces which bring it into a material plane. These are of the ethers or atomic forces, being electrical in nature as they enter into a material basis, or become matter... in its ability to take on or throw off.
ron says: So as a group may raise the atomic vibrations which made for those positive forces that bring divine forces into action in a material plane, those that are destructive are broken down by the raising of that vibration I This is done through Creative Forces, which are God in manifestation I
ron says: Hence, as self brings those little things necessary, as each is found to be necessary, for position, posture, time, period, place, name, understanding; study each in their respective spheres.
ron says: So does the entity become the healer... There must be raised in each individual that consciousness of the indwelling, or to put it in a material manner - the superseding of the Christ Consciousness in that matter that would be healed, whether by its injection by those who through cooperation raise such vibrations in an individual, or through that of one individual raising in self.
ron says: So all these receive their considerations, as has been given - to whom ye speak, how ye speak, where, when, and how - these must all be considered, would one not become arrogant, would one not become self-centered, self condemning. Self surrendering first, then raise the consciousness that will supersede, will overcome - for, as He overcame even death, so may ye in His name overcome the ills that the flesh is heir to, through its advent into a material world.
ron says: . 'I am not of this world. Ye are not of this world, if ye abide in Me - but 1 may only be manifest in the material world through thine own raising of that consciousness. As 1 abide in the Father, and ye abide in Me, 1 in ye, ye in Me, we may bring that to pass as ye seek:" (281-3A. 10 & 11)
true_eagle says: the bigger picture
ron says: The realization dawns that indeed there is no death. Death is but the separation, in consciousness, of the soul from God. When this has been overcome there is no death, for consciousness is continuous in whatever plane one manifests.
ron says: IN MY FATHER’S HOUSE ARE MANY MANSIONS; IF IT WERE NOT SO, I WOULD HAVE TOLD YOU. I GO TO PREPARE A PLACE FOR YOU. AND IF I GO AND PREPARE A PLACE FOR YOU, I WILL COME AGAIN AND RECEIVE YOU UNTO MYSELF; THAT WERE I AM THERE YE MAY BE ALSO. AND WHITHER I GO, YE KNOW, AND THE WAY YE KNOW. (John 14:2-4.)
ron says: Death of the physical body is no longer a terror to be feared, for it is but the passing of the soul into another dimension through another door, for further growth and development. Life and death have taken on their true meaning. Neither is to be feared; both offer a glorious opportunity to love and be loved!
true_eagle says: i know ..
Lory says: Death is a new beginning.
ron says: It has always seemed strange to me that Christianity, which teaches heaven hereafter, has so few Christians who want to go I here! Death is delayed as long as possible, even at the cost of unbearable suffering. It is as if we want to believe, but cannot.
ron says: lol...isn't that so true
ron says: Through meditation, we can become familiar with these other planes. Growing sensitivity enables us to meet occasionally with a loved one who, having passed on, no longer hopes for a life hereafter, but is enjoying it to the fullest!
ron says: “He maketh me to lie down in green pastures.” Certainly the I,ord gives rest to those who seek Him. For the promise has also been that He will not give us greater burdens than we can bear. Only those unfortunates who abandon themselves to a Godless world, where they must inevitably founder, are driven to commit suicide.
true_eagle says: yea ron .. i beleve .. an hey ..i cant wait !
true_eagle says: an yea i walk thu the vally of death i fear no evil .. now thats faith !
ron says: correction?...founder should be? the spelling
ron says: flounder
true_eagle says: k
ron says: “He leadeth me beside the still waters.“ Even as sheep will not drink from turbulent waters, so does He lead us to the peaceful water of the life within. Meditation leads us to the water that refreshes us mentally, physically, and spiritually, giving us peace.
ron says: “He restoreth my soul.” When we seek Him with all our heart, mind and soul; then and only then can He guide us homeward. In all recorded history, we know of only one whose soul was fully restored to His side. This was Jesus, who became the Christ. He truly possessed His own soul, for He gained complete control of it.
ron says: Having learned to control Himself, He was in complete control of the universe and its laws. He was not subject to the law of gravity, or any other law of nature. They became subject to Him. He stilled the storm. He walked on the water. He raised the dead. He healed the sick and cast out demons. He multiplied the loaves and fishes, and He walked away from their midst when they sought to push Him over the brow of the hill. (Luke 4:29-30).
true_eagle says: tho preparest a table.... .. o yea .. i wana b there !
ron says: He was precognitive about Himself and others. He was telepathic as He read the minds of the Pharisees. He was clairvoyant as He directed the fishermen where to cast their nets. He used the power of exorcism as he bade the possessing spirits to come out. He was all things to all men. And his admonition to us was “Be ye perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.“ Only then can our souls be restored to their rightful home.
ron says: “Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil; for thou art with me.“ This promise is fulfilled as soon as we learn to seek Him in meditation. If God be with you, who or what can harm you? To lose the body is nothing. You have already discarded many, and you feel no more concern for them, now, than you would for a pair of your worn out baby shoes.
true_eagle says: ]an i will dwell in the houseof the lord .... forever ^i^... thats the promas
ron says: If God be with you, who or what can harm you?
ron says: that was for me
true_eagle says: ty
ron says: “Thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.“ The “rod” is the adversity the Lord permits to help strengthen our moral fibre. “Whom the Lord loveth He chasteneth.” (Rev. 3:10). Only through adversities do we come to know our weaknesses and our strength. False optimism leads us sadly astray more often than it tempers us.
true_eagle says: goodness an mercy
ron says: It is when we realize that "problems" are the kiss of God upon the soul, that we learn to be grateful for lessons well learned. Being human, we probably also add, "But am I glad it's over!"
ron says: phewww....wiping forehead over here
ron says: The “staff” is the staff within. The endocrine glands, as related to spiritual growth, form a symbolic staff - the pineal and pituitary representing the crook. Nowhere does one receive more comfort than from within, where He dwells. When all earthly help fails, as it has a periodic habit of doing, He stands ready.
true_eagle says: well done ron ... as jesus would say . a loyal servent ^i^
ron says: If we are truly making an effort to obey His laws, we have but to seek, and we shall find Him. He will stay with us and work with us, guiding us in all things, AS LONG AS WE KEEP TRYING. Only through us can the Kingdom of God come into the earth, led by the Christ Spirit. Works and faith are equally important to the preparation.
ron says: The table, also, is within. It bears the bread of life that Jesus spoke of when He said, 'I have bread ye know not of.” It is this spiritual force which sustains us constantly. Call it the hormones of the endocrine glands if you will, those hormones that bring health to the body, mind and spirit; names are only labels. What we think, eat, and do, makes us what we are mentally, physically and spiritually, no matter how we put it into words.
true_eagle says: he that belevith in me !
true_eagle says: or she
ron says: 'The presence of mine enemies” - who are our enemies? Our own selfish desires! All of them are waste products, dross from the lower four centers of the body, which are referred to as the Four Beasts in the Book of Revelation (4:6-9). These four lower centers are the gonads, the cells of Leydig, the adrenals and the thymus.
ron says: “We are our own worst enemies” has become a cliche, but it contains such truth that if it were universally understood it would change the nature of mankind.
ron says: In the New Testament, anointing is treated as a symbolic act by the Holy Spirit of God. In John 20 we read “but ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.” The anointing of the "holy one" referred to, relating to the pineal and pituitary glands.
ron says: When the "bread and wine" are partaken of at the level of the pineal gland, this is the beginning of true communion with His Spirit, the Holy Spirit. It is only after this descent of the Holy Ghost that one experiences the anointing until “my cup runneth over.“
ron says: “And I will dwell in the house of the Lord forever.“ Where is the house of the Lord? Jesus said, 'In my Father's house are many mansions.' These "mansions" of God, these "pillars in the temple" are levels of consciousness. Where is consciousness? Within the very body you now occupy, wherever you are! “'For ye are the temple of the living God.” As God hath said, “I will dwell in them, and walk in them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.' (II Cor. 6: 16)
ron says: Therefore, whether you are in this earth, or in another dimension, the "house of the Lord" is the shell you occupy. If the body is in pain, if the mind is in torment, if the soul is without peace, then sin lies at its own door. For while God wills that no soul shall perish, He will not force man to seek Him.
ron says: END...i will review for lory and others....a little bit............take a brief break and conversation
ron says: i will continue ith this subject next week
Leon says: When the student is ready, the words of truth will appear. I'm experiencing comfort.
T_E says: WOOOOOOO ... igot wisked away by a god e-mail
ron says: ok mike...i will do a little review...taking conversational break
T_E says: k ty ron
ron says: right now
T_E says: yea me .. il send it to u . how wied is that
ron says: ok mike...this was a very moving session for me...touched my heart
ron says: i'll be doing a little review for you diane and lory etc
T_E says: me to ron . ole devil .. dont want me here . very moving ... u got to the point ron
diane says: ty ron. you're a jewel
Leon says: Can this material be retrieved somehow,ron??
T_E says: yes gang he is ... the spirit is in him
ron says: we are just having a brief conversational break
T_E says: right word di
diane says: A jewel, and/or , gem. lol
ron says: yes leon...i'll be sending this chat to WIS's site for him to post
