Post by WalksInSpirit on Apr 24, 2006 15:05:40 GMT -5
Astrology Chat: 04-24-06
(02:15:19) (ron) you can hold brief conversations at any time along the way...everyone's views are acceptible
(02:17:11) (ron) THE WILL OF THE ENTITY
(02:17:26) (ron) This question was asked in Reading No. 900-24 "Explain how and why-in what manner - planets influence an individual at birth." The answer was: "As the entity is born into the Earth's plane, the relationship of that plane from which the spirit entity TOOK FLIGHT has the greater influence. In the same manner, its life in the Earth, plane directs the spirit - entity to whatever planet it must go for further development."
(02:18:02) (ron) Summing up, then: the soul mind can choose, and can realize wherein it has failed. Therefore it goes to whatever planet it may need for its further development and training.
(02:18:11) (Blu) So we can see where we are going from here
(02:18:30) (crystal) so there are other planets with spirit entities there?
(02:19:05) (Lynn) And other planes.
(02:20:32) (ron) apparently we use the other planets as helpful temporary places...to, perhaps to change our goals and objectives...to change our ideals before coming back to this earth...
(02:20:59) (ron) Then when it incarnates again, these developments experienced by the soul mind during sojourns among the planets MUST BE BUILT into the life upon the physical plane. For soul growth must be made upon the Earth plane, by the use of our will. Again quoting from the Readings: "And remember, no urge from the position of the planets, or stars - or bars - surpasses the will of the entity!" No. 3654-L-l
(02:21:53) (Lynn) Are you saying that soul growth can not occur on other planes? Please explain.
(02:21:59) (ron) bars?...lost here...unless we can pause for a drink along the way
(02:22:23) (Blu) LOL
(02:22:47) (Blu) never would have noticed that, what is that suppose to be Ron?
(02:23:14) (diane) no stopping at the bars on way back to earth?
(02:23:31) (crystal) what's sojourns mean?
(02:23:33) (ron) there isn't any place or plane of consciousness where there is no opportunity for soul growth...i don't know where you got that idea lynn
(02:23:49) (Lynn) from what you posted. Thanks for explaining.,
(02:24:03) (Blu) It means a place where you visit a while crystal
(02:24:10) (crystal) thank you
(02:24:29) (Blu) For soul growth must be made upon the Earth plane, by the use of our will. Again quoting from the Readings
(02:24:45) (Blu) Earth is where we must apply, it's like the SATS
(02:24:58) (ron) that is my question blu...maybe a misspelled word or text print error...i'd have to check on that sometime soon
(02:25:03) (crystal) SATS what's that mean?
(02:25:12) (Blu) we can learn in other places, but when it comes to applying what we know, this is the big test
(02:25:28) (Blu) It's a college entrance exam Crystal
(02:25:28) (Lynn) Thank you, Blu. The meaning was uncertain but scarey!.
(02:25:29) (crystal) like the final test
(02:25:37) (Blu) not final
(02:25:37) (crystal) ok....lol
(02:25:47) (Blu) you can take the SAT's as many times as you want
(02:25:57) (crystal) understood
(02:26:09) (diane) but there's a charge..for taking them
(02:26:20) (ron) as far as i'm concerned all planes of consciousness are opportunites for soul growth which is finally applyed on the earth...and its the earth we go to because its the earth from whence we started
(02:26:21) (crystal) thought it was some kind of meaning in spiritual world...lol
(02:26:36) (Lynn) I agree with you, Ron.
(02:26:37) (crystal) I should have known, my daughter just took one last week
(02:26:45) (ron) rather this solar system from beginning to end
(02:26:57) (Lynn) I just don´t want to come back. I´´ll apply, anything. I don´t wanna come back. lol
(02:27:10) (crystal) I hear you Lynn
(02:27:18) (ky-mike) me ither lynn
(02:27:31) (Lynn) good, no sacrifice is too great, I apply, apply, apply
(02:27:37) (ron) i hope i put out better sentences today....sometime...gee, i don't know
(02:27:42) (ron) And in the same reading, I found this statement which I like very :much: "The signs of the Zodiac are Karmic Patterns; the Planets are the Looms; the Will is the Weaver."
(02:28:14) (Blu) nice analogy Ron
(02:28:20) (ron) Over and over again, the Readings tell us that "Mind is the Builder." By the activities of the mind, we must BALANCE the various planetary influences - the nobleness of Jupiter with the driving force of Mars, the love influence of Venus with the tempering action of Mercury, and so on. Otherwise we would bring un-balance into our lives. With mind ever
(02:28:21) (diane) Excellent description
(02:28:30) (ron) the builder, we must study our complex natures. We must try to balance our mental urges or planetary influences, through the will - our soul-will - by going within and listening to the voice of conscience.
(02:28:33) (Lynn) so will is the answer. I am scorpio and I will and I desire.
(02:29:32) (ron) The Earth plane is the place and the testing ground, where the soul must make its will one with the Father, or the Creative Force of the Universe. Each entry into the Earth plane is - or should be - purposeful. HERE AND NOW we must develop higher levels of consciousness; never losing sight of the fact that we must reconcile what we have built in the Earth plane with spiritual lessons learned during sojourns in other planes.
(02:30:03) (Lynn) I have tunnel vision, Ron. One purpose. Get outta here!
(02:30:09) (ron) spiritual lessons learned during sojourns in other pl
(02:30:28) (Sophia) question
(02:30:32) (ron) spiritual lessons learned during sojourns in other planes
(02:30:41) (Sophia) what is a sojourn again
(02:30:52) (ron) RESPONSIBILITY FOR OTHERS
(02:31:03) (crystal) a place where you stay for a while
(02:31:08) (crystal) lol....hehe
(02:31:26) (ron) a place of temporary residence on other planets between our earthly incarnations
(02:31:44) (ron) just like we do on earth in our sleep
(02:31:45) (Lynn) And that is a key, responsibility for others. I will prepare myself for greater responsibilities so I don´t have to come back.
(02:32:02) (Sophia) i went to a class from a mystery school that teaches we only come here once to get a body
(02:32:17) (Sophia) when i questioned that i was told to get over myself
(02:32:21) (crystal) Love is the most powerful of all learning to me
(02:32:32) (ky-mike) an cacyce says recar
(02:32:34) (Blu) omg
(02:32:38) (Lynn) And what, exactly, is love?
(02:32:39) (ron) RESPONSIBILITY FOR OTHERS
(02:32:49) (Lynn) good answer , ron.
(02:32:51) (Sophia) yup Blu
(02:33:01) (ron) caring for the welfare of all peoples i suppose
(02:33:02) (crystal) be kind and always ready to help others
(02:33:13) (Sophia) that we can come as guides but only come here once
(02:33:15) (ron) brotherhood
(02:33:23) (Lynn) All this have I done. What do I yet lack?
(02:33:28) (ron) so now, what is love?
(02:33:37) (Lynn) Love is an action verb.
(02:33:51) (ron) as Christ did...He called it love didn't he?
(02:33:56) (ky-mike) crystal knows the anser!
(02:34:07) (ky-mike) yes ...
(02:34:36) (Lynn) I have talked with many people who died and were resuscitated.
(02:34:36) (ron) that is my asnwer to the question of love
(02:34:50) (ky-mike) jesus .. i am the light an the way .. follow me
(02:34:52) (Lynn) I have read many books. Always the major question is ´´Have you learned to love?´´
(02:34:54) (ron) to continue
(02:35:14) (ron) We are our brother's keeper. If we would have true understanding and loving tolerance for our fellow man, it is necessary to realize that we are viewing many degrees of developing souls here in the Earth plane. There are souls who have not assimilated the balancing
(02:35:40) (ron) factors of all their solar experiences, even as we. The varied combinations of mental urges from planetary experiences, with helpful or adverse influences, may be an enlightening and fascinating study. The study of our-selves is truly the study of our brother.
(02:36:04) (Sophia) yes ... we do come into this existence of mirrors
(02:36:19) (ron) Anywhere along the path of development, the human will may use or misuse each opportunity present-ed to it. By its use or misuse, the entity may retrograde or it may go forward step by step. Realizing the power of the will to choose daily even - momentarily
(02:36:24) (Blu) Well I am not going to try to con anyone, I know I have a long way to go before being able to say I love everyone.
(02:36:38) (ky-mike) we r here ... a goal..e that see it an do ... advancment of the soul !
(02:36:46) (Sophia) or remember that u do
(02:36:48) (Sophia) :)
(02:36:51) (ron) - we must ever be on guard. For upon the Earth plane, we find that man is flesh and blood; but upon the other planes, we find conditions of our own making, in preparation for our own development.
(02:37:18) (crystal) I try to live every moment in life with a purpose to help others and let the future be what it should
(02:37:20) (ron) "Ye have before you Life and Death: Choose ye!". . . and "As the tree falls, so it lies." For each soul has made, and is making a definite record which is just as clear as that which may be written with pen and ink, or with any type, style or form of transmitting or recording.
(02:37:25) (ky-mike) an evil is with us ..
(02:37:54) (Lynn) But if love is not an icky gooey feeling, Blu, but being responsible to assist others at every opportunity is possible I think.
(02:37:56) (ron) These records are written upon what is known as time and space, defined by the Readings as: "Akashic Record - a vibratory record of all thought and action." The activities of energy expended leave an imprint upon the etheric wave that records between time and space.
(02:38:11) (Sophia) yes
(02:38:27) (ron) A developed soul in evolutionary growth, such as Edgar Cayce, could read the Akashic records; and he has left these Readings for all of us who are seeking spiritual enlightenment and knowledge of Universal Laws.
(02:38:38) (Sophia) may i ask a question ron regarding cayce
(02:39:07) (ron) well, EC is very complex man for me...i will try
(02:39:30) (ky-mike) an we r here in his place .. get the words an the understanding
(02:39:35) (Sophia) has he reincarnated ... has the ARE approached this subject
(02:39:35) (Lynn) I don´t have to have an icky, gooey feeling for someone to assist them. If I have something to give, I´d rather give it to the person I like least.
(02:39:52) (crystal) getting the understanding is not enough it's the doing what counts
(02:40:00) (Blu) I have heard it both ways Sophia
(02:40:13) (Blu) I have heard that he has and I have heard that he has not
(02:40:19) (Sophia) from the ARE Blu
(02:40:34) (Blu) But if I am to understand what I have been told then he resides in New York
(02:40:40) (ky-mike) an that follows the understanding... the doing .. hand in hand
(02:40:50) (Lynn) ok, here´s an opportunity to be responsible and love. I don´t wanna come back to earth. I will go assist this person. Bye
(02:40:51) (Blu) from someone at the ARE, yes
(02:40:54) (Sophia) what of this David Wilcox ....
(02:41:12) (crystal) true mike
(02:41:13) (Blu) I do not know who it is Sophia
(02:41:14) (Sophia) would his chart be similar ron as edgar's if edgar reincarnates agin
(02:41:31) (Sophia) look it up Blu ... he claims to be Edgar
(02:41:34) (ky-mike) as im foubd of saying . its not enough... to b a christian .. u hav to practice it !
(02:41:53) (ron) i don't believe he has yet...my opinion...he has prepared the way for the New Age so i feel his will incarnate at a later time when things have already started...why should he incarnate now?...his work is still in the process of fruition...my opinion is that he will incarnate sometime after the pole shift
(02:42:07) (Blu) I know who Wilcox is, I just do not know who Cayce is at the moment
(02:42:18) (Sophia) k Blu ...
(02:42:22) (ron) A developed soul in evolutionary growth, such as Edgar Cayce, could read the Akashic records; and he has left these Readings for all of us who are seeking spiritual enlightenment and knowledge of Universal Laws.
(02:42:22) (ky-mike) yes blu ?
(02:42:31) (Blu) To rebuild new York Ron
(02:42:36) (ron) NATURE OF THE URGES
(02:42:41) (Sophia) k ron ...
(02:42:55) (ron) Let us consider some of the mental urges which are transmitted to us from our planetary environs, because of the way in which we reacted during our sojourn there.
(02:44:19) (ron) so, planetary sojourns give us the mental urges...and with the earthly incarnations we bring with us our emotional urges
(02:44:41) (ron) In the study of astrological urges, we find both positive and negative influences pertaining to each planet. From Mercury, we receive what we have built in mental activities, both positive and negative. Some of the positive qualities are mental agility, deductive power,
(02:44:51) (ron) reasoning, alertness of perception - the way in which the mind functions and examines things. Negative qualities would be over-criticalness, lazy-mindedness, intellectual arrogance.
(02:45:26) (ron) intellectual arrogance....hmmmm....
(02:45:41) (ron) In Mercury is wisdom, the Readings tell us. But wisdom not applied will become sin, for mind is the builder.
(02:46:03) (ron) From Mars, we receive what we have built in energy, driving force, leadership, fire and ambition. Considering Mars negatively, we may have built temper, stubbornness, bull-headedness, irritability, fault-finding, a domineering or bossy disposition.
(02:46:23) (ron) sounds like me...
(02:46:40) (ron) From Venus, we receive what we ourselves have built in appreciation for the beautiful, in all arts; and a capacity for love, either licentious or selfish or for mankind. We may have built a love for harmony - or for the purely material things of life. "Love" sums up the concept of Venus's influence: love on a higher or on a lower plane of experience. Will it be self love, or love turned toward others?
(02:46:42) (ky-mike) an sticking with the truth .. an knowing... can overcome ..... the weakness... an trapings of life
(02:47:31) (ky-mike) as jesus said ... the truth ... will set u FREE ^I^
(02:47:44) (ron) From Jupiter, as many Readings state, we have the ennobling force - concern for the masses, interest in international relationships and in harmonious relationships with larger groups. Jupiter has helped us build highness of purpose; or, on the other hand, a
(02:47:53) (ron) disinterest in the larger objectives of human society; or selfish disregard for the welfare of groups, small or large - the world as a whole, the nation as a whole, or our own neighborhood group. Jupiter means service to others; or the lack of it, causing
(02:48:31) (ron) self-centered-ness.
(02:48:51) (ron) From Saturn, we have built or experienced purification and cleansing. Through Saturn, we recognize that we have experienced growth from our suffering and our emotional difficulties. We have built patience, or its lack-impatience. Saturn thus brings changes, through growth and through suffering. Reading No. 949-L-4 states it this way: "From
(02:49:04) (ron) Saturn, we find the influences from which there is a new beginning - always there is present the constant desire to rub out and begin over again, with the constant changes which arise from such." For Saturn is the great taskmaster.
(02:51:26) (ron) i guess that is the clarification of Saturn i've read so far...some seem to think when you leave what is not needed on a sojourn on Saturn that its all over and one can skip back to earth as a new person...well, thats not quite so...a little pain and suffering goes along with when one stubles back to earth
(02:52:15) (ron) Sojourns with Uranus build an interest in the occult - a grasp of occult law which we seem to have innately. Uranus, on the negative side, means extremes, or urges toward the eccentric. One of the great positive qualities conferred by Uranus is the intuitive ability.
(02:52:48) (ron) Reading No. 949-1.-4 states: "Uranian influences are toward the extremes: very high or very low in phases of human endeavor or human experience. In occult or mystical matters, individuals tend to give credence to numbers, days, seasons; or to become superstitious in regard to this or that. These are some manners of expression coming from this influence."
(02:53:27) (ron) Strange to say, the influence of the planet Pluto was not described in any of the Readings, so far as can be determined at present; although it was listed among the planets several times. There is some evidence that the "Septimus" mentioned in some Readings referred to Pluto.
(02:53:52) (ron) Then lastly, let us consider what sojourns with Neptune may have conferred upon the mental urges of the entity. Starting with negative qualities, we have: impracticability, the head-in-the-clouds type of thinking so familiar to many of us. But this great occult or transcendental planet can also bring our development towards interest in mysticism - the
(02:54:30) (ron) divine mysteries of the human soul, religion, Universal Laws and the Great Plan of the Universe. This could mean a very high type of spirituality, if the entity uses his will to build and keep building, according to the ideals he holds. Neptune seems to be connected with water - and water, as you may know, is a symbol of spirituality. So we should all try to live up to the urges built into our lives by the forces of Neptune.
(02:55:04) (ron) by the way, time for me to get a glass of water...
(02:55:12) (Blu) LOL
(02:55:14) (crystal) lol
(02:55:16) (Blu) ok Ron
(02:55:26) (crystal) talking too long
(02:55:40) (ron) end here for today
(02:55:41) (diane) throat's getting dry. lol
(02:55:49) (Blu) Thank you Ron
(02:55:54) (Sophia) ty ron
(02:55:56) (ron) OPEN chat
(02:56:00) (diane) ty ron
(02:56:24) (crystal) well done ron
(02:56:27) (crystal) thank you
(02:56:42) (ky-mike) yes ron ... well done
(02:56:53) (crystal) you did well dear friend
(02:57:09) (Blu) I like that last part about Neptune
(02:17:11) (ron) THE WILL OF THE ENTITY
(02:17:26) (ron) This question was asked in Reading No. 900-24 "Explain how and why-in what manner - planets influence an individual at birth." The answer was: "As the entity is born into the Earth's plane, the relationship of that plane from which the spirit entity TOOK FLIGHT has the greater influence. In the same manner, its life in the Earth, plane directs the spirit - entity to whatever planet it must go for further development."
(02:18:02) (ron) Summing up, then: the soul mind can choose, and can realize wherein it has failed. Therefore it goes to whatever planet it may need for its further development and training.
(02:18:11) (Blu) So we can see where we are going from here
(02:18:30) (crystal) so there are other planets with spirit entities there?
(02:19:05) (Lynn) And other planes.
(02:20:32) (ron) apparently we use the other planets as helpful temporary places...to, perhaps to change our goals and objectives...to change our ideals before coming back to this earth...
(02:20:59) (ron) Then when it incarnates again, these developments experienced by the soul mind during sojourns among the planets MUST BE BUILT into the life upon the physical plane. For soul growth must be made upon the Earth plane, by the use of our will. Again quoting from the Readings: "And remember, no urge from the position of the planets, or stars - or bars - surpasses the will of the entity!" No. 3654-L-l
(02:21:53) (Lynn) Are you saying that soul growth can not occur on other planes? Please explain.
(02:21:59) (ron) bars?...lost here...unless we can pause for a drink along the way
(02:22:23) (Blu) LOL
(02:22:47) (Blu) never would have noticed that, what is that suppose to be Ron?
(02:23:14) (diane) no stopping at the bars on way back to earth?
(02:23:31) (crystal) what's sojourns mean?
(02:23:33) (ron) there isn't any place or plane of consciousness where there is no opportunity for soul growth...i don't know where you got that idea lynn
(02:23:49) (Lynn) from what you posted. Thanks for explaining.,
(02:24:03) (Blu) It means a place where you visit a while crystal
(02:24:10) (crystal) thank you
(02:24:29) (Blu) For soul growth must be made upon the Earth plane, by the use of our will. Again quoting from the Readings
(02:24:45) (Blu) Earth is where we must apply, it's like the SATS
(02:24:58) (ron) that is my question blu...maybe a misspelled word or text print error...i'd have to check on that sometime soon
(02:25:03) (crystal) SATS what's that mean?
(02:25:12) (Blu) we can learn in other places, but when it comes to applying what we know, this is the big test
(02:25:28) (Blu) It's a college entrance exam Crystal
(02:25:28) (Lynn) Thank you, Blu. The meaning was uncertain but scarey!.
(02:25:29) (crystal) like the final test
(02:25:37) (Blu) not final
(02:25:37) (crystal) ok....lol
(02:25:47) (Blu) you can take the SAT's as many times as you want
(02:25:57) (crystal) understood
(02:26:09) (diane) but there's a charge..for taking them
(02:26:20) (ron) as far as i'm concerned all planes of consciousness are opportunites for soul growth which is finally applyed on the earth...and its the earth we go to because its the earth from whence we started
(02:26:21) (crystal) thought it was some kind of meaning in spiritual world...lol
(02:26:36) (Lynn) I agree with you, Ron.
(02:26:37) (crystal) I should have known, my daughter just took one last week
(02:26:45) (ron) rather this solar system from beginning to end
(02:26:57) (Lynn) I just don´t want to come back. I´´ll apply, anything. I don´t wanna come back. lol
(02:27:10) (crystal) I hear you Lynn
(02:27:18) (ky-mike) me ither lynn
(02:27:31) (Lynn) good, no sacrifice is too great, I apply, apply, apply
(02:27:37) (ron) i hope i put out better sentences today....sometime...gee, i don't know
(02:27:42) (ron) And in the same reading, I found this statement which I like very :much: "The signs of the Zodiac are Karmic Patterns; the Planets are the Looms; the Will is the Weaver."
(02:28:14) (Blu) nice analogy Ron
(02:28:20) (ron) Over and over again, the Readings tell us that "Mind is the Builder." By the activities of the mind, we must BALANCE the various planetary influences - the nobleness of Jupiter with the driving force of Mars, the love influence of Venus with the tempering action of Mercury, and so on. Otherwise we would bring un-balance into our lives. With mind ever
(02:28:21) (diane) Excellent description
(02:28:30) (ron) the builder, we must study our complex natures. We must try to balance our mental urges or planetary influences, through the will - our soul-will - by going within and listening to the voice of conscience.
(02:28:33) (Lynn) so will is the answer. I am scorpio and I will and I desire.
(02:29:32) (ron) The Earth plane is the place and the testing ground, where the soul must make its will one with the Father, or the Creative Force of the Universe. Each entry into the Earth plane is - or should be - purposeful. HERE AND NOW we must develop higher levels of consciousness; never losing sight of the fact that we must reconcile what we have built in the Earth plane with spiritual lessons learned during sojourns in other planes.
(02:30:03) (Lynn) I have tunnel vision, Ron. One purpose. Get outta here!
(02:30:09) (ron) spiritual lessons learned during sojourns in other pl
(02:30:28) (Sophia) question
(02:30:32) (ron) spiritual lessons learned during sojourns in other planes
(02:30:41) (Sophia) what is a sojourn again
(02:30:52) (ron) RESPONSIBILITY FOR OTHERS
(02:31:03) (crystal) a place where you stay for a while
(02:31:08) (crystal) lol....hehe
(02:31:26) (ron) a place of temporary residence on other planets between our earthly incarnations
(02:31:44) (ron) just like we do on earth in our sleep
(02:31:45) (Lynn) And that is a key, responsibility for others. I will prepare myself for greater responsibilities so I don´t have to come back.
(02:32:02) (Sophia) i went to a class from a mystery school that teaches we only come here once to get a body
(02:32:17) (Sophia) when i questioned that i was told to get over myself
(02:32:21) (crystal) Love is the most powerful of all learning to me
(02:32:32) (ky-mike) an cacyce says recar
(02:32:34) (Blu) omg
(02:32:38) (Lynn) And what, exactly, is love?
(02:32:39) (ron) RESPONSIBILITY FOR OTHERS
(02:32:49) (Lynn) good answer , ron.
(02:32:51) (Sophia) yup Blu
(02:33:01) (ron) caring for the welfare of all peoples i suppose
(02:33:02) (crystal) be kind and always ready to help others
(02:33:13) (Sophia) that we can come as guides but only come here once
(02:33:15) (ron) brotherhood
(02:33:23) (Lynn) All this have I done. What do I yet lack?
(02:33:28) (ron) so now, what is love?
(02:33:37) (Lynn) Love is an action verb.
(02:33:51) (ron) as Christ did...He called it love didn't he?
(02:33:56) (ky-mike) crystal knows the anser!
(02:34:07) (ky-mike) yes ...
(02:34:36) (Lynn) I have talked with many people who died and were resuscitated.
(02:34:36) (ron) that is my asnwer to the question of love
(02:34:50) (ky-mike) jesus .. i am the light an the way .. follow me
(02:34:52) (Lynn) I have read many books. Always the major question is ´´Have you learned to love?´´
(02:34:54) (ron) to continue
(02:35:14) (ron) We are our brother's keeper. If we would have true understanding and loving tolerance for our fellow man, it is necessary to realize that we are viewing many degrees of developing souls here in the Earth plane. There are souls who have not assimilated the balancing
(02:35:40) (ron) factors of all their solar experiences, even as we. The varied combinations of mental urges from planetary experiences, with helpful or adverse influences, may be an enlightening and fascinating study. The study of our-selves is truly the study of our brother.
(02:36:04) (Sophia) yes ... we do come into this existence of mirrors
(02:36:19) (ron) Anywhere along the path of development, the human will may use or misuse each opportunity present-ed to it. By its use or misuse, the entity may retrograde or it may go forward step by step. Realizing the power of the will to choose daily even - momentarily
(02:36:24) (Blu) Well I am not going to try to con anyone, I know I have a long way to go before being able to say I love everyone.
(02:36:38) (ky-mike) we r here ... a goal..e that see it an do ... advancment of the soul !
(02:36:46) (Sophia) or remember that u do
(02:36:48) (Sophia) :)
(02:36:51) (ron) - we must ever be on guard. For upon the Earth plane, we find that man is flesh and blood; but upon the other planes, we find conditions of our own making, in preparation for our own development.
(02:37:18) (crystal) I try to live every moment in life with a purpose to help others and let the future be what it should
(02:37:20) (ron) "Ye have before you Life and Death: Choose ye!". . . and "As the tree falls, so it lies." For each soul has made, and is making a definite record which is just as clear as that which may be written with pen and ink, or with any type, style or form of transmitting or recording.
(02:37:25) (ky-mike) an evil is with us ..
(02:37:54) (Lynn) But if love is not an icky gooey feeling, Blu, but being responsible to assist others at every opportunity is possible I think.
(02:37:56) (ron) These records are written upon what is known as time and space, defined by the Readings as: "Akashic Record - a vibratory record of all thought and action." The activities of energy expended leave an imprint upon the etheric wave that records between time and space.
(02:38:11) (Sophia) yes
(02:38:27) (ron) A developed soul in evolutionary growth, such as Edgar Cayce, could read the Akashic records; and he has left these Readings for all of us who are seeking spiritual enlightenment and knowledge of Universal Laws.
(02:38:38) (Sophia) may i ask a question ron regarding cayce
(02:39:07) (ron) well, EC is very complex man for me...i will try
(02:39:30) (ky-mike) an we r here in his place .. get the words an the understanding
(02:39:35) (Sophia) has he reincarnated ... has the ARE approached this subject
(02:39:35) (Lynn) I don´t have to have an icky, gooey feeling for someone to assist them. If I have something to give, I´d rather give it to the person I like least.
(02:39:52) (crystal) getting the understanding is not enough it's the doing what counts
(02:40:00) (Blu) I have heard it both ways Sophia
(02:40:13) (Blu) I have heard that he has and I have heard that he has not
(02:40:19) (Sophia) from the ARE Blu
(02:40:34) (Blu) But if I am to understand what I have been told then he resides in New York
(02:40:40) (ky-mike) an that follows the understanding... the doing .. hand in hand
(02:40:50) (Lynn) ok, here´s an opportunity to be responsible and love. I don´t wanna come back to earth. I will go assist this person. Bye
(02:40:51) (Blu) from someone at the ARE, yes
(02:40:54) (Sophia) what of this David Wilcox ....
(02:41:12) (crystal) true mike
(02:41:13) (Blu) I do not know who it is Sophia
(02:41:14) (Sophia) would his chart be similar ron as edgar's if edgar reincarnates agin
(02:41:31) (Sophia) look it up Blu ... he claims to be Edgar
(02:41:34) (ky-mike) as im foubd of saying . its not enough... to b a christian .. u hav to practice it !
(02:41:53) (ron) i don't believe he has yet...my opinion...he has prepared the way for the New Age so i feel his will incarnate at a later time when things have already started...why should he incarnate now?...his work is still in the process of fruition...my opinion is that he will incarnate sometime after the pole shift
(02:42:07) (Blu) I know who Wilcox is, I just do not know who Cayce is at the moment
(02:42:18) (Sophia) k Blu ...
(02:42:22) (ron) A developed soul in evolutionary growth, such as Edgar Cayce, could read the Akashic records; and he has left these Readings for all of us who are seeking spiritual enlightenment and knowledge of Universal Laws.
(02:42:22) (ky-mike) yes blu ?
(02:42:31) (Blu) To rebuild new York Ron
(02:42:36) (ron) NATURE OF THE URGES
(02:42:41) (Sophia) k ron ...
(02:42:55) (ron) Let us consider some of the mental urges which are transmitted to us from our planetary environs, because of the way in which we reacted during our sojourn there.
(02:44:19) (ron) so, planetary sojourns give us the mental urges...and with the earthly incarnations we bring with us our emotional urges
(02:44:41) (ron) In the study of astrological urges, we find both positive and negative influences pertaining to each planet. From Mercury, we receive what we have built in mental activities, both positive and negative. Some of the positive qualities are mental agility, deductive power,
(02:44:51) (ron) reasoning, alertness of perception - the way in which the mind functions and examines things. Negative qualities would be over-criticalness, lazy-mindedness, intellectual arrogance.
(02:45:26) (ron) intellectual arrogance....hmmmm....
(02:45:41) (ron) In Mercury is wisdom, the Readings tell us. But wisdom not applied will become sin, for mind is the builder.
(02:46:03) (ron) From Mars, we receive what we have built in energy, driving force, leadership, fire and ambition. Considering Mars negatively, we may have built temper, stubbornness, bull-headedness, irritability, fault-finding, a domineering or bossy disposition.
(02:46:23) (ron) sounds like me...
(02:46:40) (ron) From Venus, we receive what we ourselves have built in appreciation for the beautiful, in all arts; and a capacity for love, either licentious or selfish or for mankind. We may have built a love for harmony - or for the purely material things of life. "Love" sums up the concept of Venus's influence: love on a higher or on a lower plane of experience. Will it be self love, or love turned toward others?
(02:46:42) (ky-mike) an sticking with the truth .. an knowing... can overcome ..... the weakness... an trapings of life
(02:47:31) (ky-mike) as jesus said ... the truth ... will set u FREE ^I^
(02:47:44) (ron) From Jupiter, as many Readings state, we have the ennobling force - concern for the masses, interest in international relationships and in harmonious relationships with larger groups. Jupiter has helped us build highness of purpose; or, on the other hand, a
(02:47:53) (ron) disinterest in the larger objectives of human society; or selfish disregard for the welfare of groups, small or large - the world as a whole, the nation as a whole, or our own neighborhood group. Jupiter means service to others; or the lack of it, causing
(02:48:31) (ron) self-centered-ness.
(02:48:51) (ron) From Saturn, we have built or experienced purification and cleansing. Through Saturn, we recognize that we have experienced growth from our suffering and our emotional difficulties. We have built patience, or its lack-impatience. Saturn thus brings changes, through growth and through suffering. Reading No. 949-L-4 states it this way: "From
(02:49:04) (ron) Saturn, we find the influences from which there is a new beginning - always there is present the constant desire to rub out and begin over again, with the constant changes which arise from such." For Saturn is the great taskmaster.
(02:51:26) (ron) i guess that is the clarification of Saturn i've read so far...some seem to think when you leave what is not needed on a sojourn on Saturn that its all over and one can skip back to earth as a new person...well, thats not quite so...a little pain and suffering goes along with when one stubles back to earth
(02:52:15) (ron) Sojourns with Uranus build an interest in the occult - a grasp of occult law which we seem to have innately. Uranus, on the negative side, means extremes, or urges toward the eccentric. One of the great positive qualities conferred by Uranus is the intuitive ability.
(02:52:48) (ron) Reading No. 949-1.-4 states: "Uranian influences are toward the extremes: very high or very low in phases of human endeavor or human experience. In occult or mystical matters, individuals tend to give credence to numbers, days, seasons; or to become superstitious in regard to this or that. These are some manners of expression coming from this influence."
(02:53:27) (ron) Strange to say, the influence of the planet Pluto was not described in any of the Readings, so far as can be determined at present; although it was listed among the planets several times. There is some evidence that the "Septimus" mentioned in some Readings referred to Pluto.
(02:53:52) (ron) Then lastly, let us consider what sojourns with Neptune may have conferred upon the mental urges of the entity. Starting with negative qualities, we have: impracticability, the head-in-the-clouds type of thinking so familiar to many of us. But this great occult or transcendental planet can also bring our development towards interest in mysticism - the
(02:54:30) (ron) divine mysteries of the human soul, religion, Universal Laws and the Great Plan of the Universe. This could mean a very high type of spirituality, if the entity uses his will to build and keep building, according to the ideals he holds. Neptune seems to be connected with water - and water, as you may know, is a symbol of spirituality. So we should all try to live up to the urges built into our lives by the forces of Neptune.
(02:55:04) (ron) by the way, time for me to get a glass of water...
(02:55:12) (Blu) LOL
(02:55:14) (crystal) lol
(02:55:16) (Blu) ok Ron
(02:55:26) (crystal) talking too long
(02:55:40) (ron) end here for today
(02:55:41) (diane) throat's getting dry. lol
(02:55:49) (Blu) Thank you Ron
(02:55:54) (Sophia) ty ron
(02:55:56) (ron) OPEN chat
(02:56:00) (diane) ty ron
(02:56:24) (crystal) well done ron
(02:56:27) (crystal) thank you
(02:56:42) (ky-mike) yes ron ... well done
(02:56:53) (crystal) you did well dear friend
(02:57:09) (Blu) I like that last part about Neptune
