Post by WalksInSpirit on Apr 17, 2006 13:54:35 GMT -5
Astrology Chat: 04-17-06
(02:15:29) (ron) ARE SEARCHLIGHT June 1957
(02:15:48) (ron) LEVELS OF CONSCIOUSNESS BETWEEN INCARNATIONS by Lydia J. Schrader Gray
(02:16:07) (ron) On a large bulletin board at our Association Headquarters, there is a small card with these words written upon it: "A servant of God once lived here and his spirit lingers on."
(02:16:33) (ron) That man, that servant of God, was Edgar Cayce: one of the world's greatest clairvoyants, or "clear see-ers." As Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary defines it: "Clairvoyance - the power of discerning objects not present to the senses, but regarded as having objective reality."
(02:16:34) (ky-mike) cool
(02:17:21) (ron) Edgar Cayce's soul was closely attuned to the infinite, as were the prophets of old; in evolutionary growth an old soul; and one who by his own efforts in past incarnations had earned the right to perceive the invisible worlds.
(02:17:31) (ky-mike) e c .. 1 of the lords lights !
(02:17:59) (ron) In Life Readings given by Edgar Cayce may be found a wealth of spiritual truths -universal and Cosmic Laws, as they affect and influence mankind. The Readings them-selves stated very emphatically: "These truths should be given ONLY TO THOSE WHO SEEK."
(02:18:33) (ron) Not long ago, a young M.D. especially interested in heart disease spent three weeks at Headquarters, reading what was given in the Physical readings about this bodily ailment. He was astounded at the in-formation he found and told me, "This man was a hundred years be-fore his time!" Just so, the spiritual truths found in the Life Readings may be
(02:19:22) (ron) hundreds of years before their time; and even a hundred years hence, many will not be as skeptical of the source - the unusual powers of Edgar Cayce - as now. We who are seekers, in this day and time, are greatly blest by having spiritual truths available for our study. We can know that it is not by chance that we are permitted to learn and practice the
(02:20:04) (ron) knowledge revealed in the Readings about the Laws of the Spirit - the Laws of Balance, Attraction, Harmony and Evolution; of Cause and Effect, or Karma; of continuity of life and life after death. This brings us to our special subject, LEVELS OF CONSCIOUSNESS BETWEEN INCARNATIONS, or as some call it, "Citizens of the Universe."
(02:20:39) (ron) In what respect are we citizens of the universe ? Well, because we are citizens not only of the earth - but of the planets also - by reason of our govern and influence the planet sojourns there, between incarnations.
(02:21:02) (ron) In the records left by Edgar Cayce, we find many statements describing the spiritual laws pertaining to the continuity of the soul; whether in the material plane or in other states of consciousness, or mental planes, among the planets.
(02:21:34) (ron) Now, there must have been a FIRST CAUSE for souls entering the earth plane, or incarnating. The Readings often stated that the First Cause was that the created should become a companion of the Creator, as all souls were in the beginning. Their desire to become as Gods brought about a separation from the Creator; and sin entered because of
(02:22:02) (ron) rebellion in the souls' mental forces. By the Grace of God, all souls were given the gift of free will; then, through the application of that free will, souls must eventually find their way back to God, or the First Cause. So it is well for man to analyze and understand himself, that he may know whence he came and whither he is going.
(02:22:37) (ron) To clarify this, let me quote from Reading No. 5755-2. "Remember, the earth is only a speck - a part of Creation - where souls projected themselves into matter. Thus they brought with them a conscious awareness of themselves; ENTERTAINING THE IDEA THAT THEY 'HAD THE ABILITY TO CREATED, WITHOUT THE FORCES OF THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH.
(02:23:54) (ron) "Thus realms of systems came into being. We know them as the solar system, or planetary systems, which govern and influence the planet Earth.
(02:24:22) (ron) "Earth, in this solar system, merely represents three dimensions. Then how many dimensions or levels of consciousness are in this solar sys-tem? Eight! What position does the Earth occupy? The third! What position do others occupy? That relative relationship, one to another." (The law of relativity undoubtedly applies here.)
(02:25:06) (ron) "Who is the author and finisher of these systems? The Word - He who made Himself manifest in the flesh. Who is the beginning and the end? Jesus the Christ."
(02:25:52) (ron) Remember in the first chapter of Genesis when God said "let us make man in our image"...?
(02:26:19) (ron) cahpter one
(02:26:25) (ron) MENTAL URGES
(02:26:45) (ron) Thus there are many levels of consciousness, or many mansions, symbolized by what we know as the planets. The soul lives on after death, in other realms of consciousness; making its record upon the soul memory, or in the soul mind of the entity. In all of the Life Readings astrological urges and innate influences were given for the individuals.
(02:27:54) (ron) Mental urges or influences, the Readings gave, come from the experiences of the soul mind during the period BETWEEN incarnations in the earth plane. Emotional urges come from past lives in the earth.
(02:29:41) (ron) now, we can recognize distinctions here...mental urges come from planetary sojourns between earthly incarnations and emotional urges, or carry overs have their origins thru earthly experiences, earthly incarnations
(02:30:25) (ron) These Life Readings present a beautiful system of spiritual evolution. The human soul is shown to have an important place in the scheme of the Universe.
(02:30:48) (ron) The importance of astrological urges is explained by pointing out that each soul passes through planes of consciousness between appearances in the Earth. These planes, or levels of consciousness, are SYMBOLIZED by the planets of our solar system: Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto.
(02:31:32) (ron) In each of the environs governed by these planets, the soul takes on a form suitable to that level of consciousness, and continues its spiritual growth. The order, or sequence, of these experiences is governed by the action of the WILL of the soul during its earthly experience.
(02:33:22) (ron) note that spiritual growth takes place on the mental level...and i suppose that that emotional development is the result, a reaction of the earth the earthly
(02:33:54) (ron) Reading No. 2132-L-l states: "Astrological urges are not existent just because of the position of the Sun, Moon or any of the planets at the time of birth; but rather because the soul of the entity is part of the universal consciousness, and HAS DWELT IN THOSE ENVIRONS."
(02:35:50) (ron) and mental devlopment takes place because the soul has entered the human experience thru initiation (according to Eastern, or Theosophical text)...whereas when in the animal kingdom it was developing the emotional nature
(02:36:16) (ron) here were are devloping the mind
(02:36:21) (ron) Reading No. 2132-L-l states: "Astrological urges are not existent just because of the position of the Sun, Moon or any of the planets at the time of birth; but rather because the soul of the entity is part of the universal consciousness, and HAS DWELT IN THOSE ENVIRONS."
(02:36:49) (ron) to rule over our unruly emotional nature :)
(02:36:56) (ron) The implications in this one statement reveal an insight into a cosmic plan. In this plan, souls are an integral part of the universe. Is this astrology? The Readings say that it would be more correct to term it occult astrology; for the positions of the planets - Sun and Moon, and planets - at the time of birth indicate where the soul has journeyed, or tarried.
(02:37:16) (ky-mike) the advancment of the soul.. with the use of the mind ,the levelsthru time with reincarnation
(02:37:35) (ron) and i've tarried here too long
(02:37:41) (ron) In occult astrology, the planet nearest the mid-heaven is the one from which the soul took its flight.
(02:37:49) (ky-mike) me to ron
(02:37:59) (ron) The planet mentioned first in each Life Reading seems in many cases to have been the one nearest the midheaven - or the latest plane of consciousness where the entity sojourned before entering the Earth plane for its present experience. As such, it greatly influences the life. It also seems to indicate the general trend of activity, or tendencies to activity.
(02:38:38) (ron) WHAT PART OF THE SELF MAKES THE JOURNEYS?
(02:39:05) (ky-mike) the soul
(02:39:06) (ron) but one person suggests that we have to get rid of "self"...hmmm....
(02:39:33) (ron) right mike
(02:39:39) (ron) The superconscious mind becomes the mind of the soul, in those interim's between material manifestations. This is the mind which travels with the soul in all its journeys through many states of awareness, into realms beyond the physical.
(02:39:52) (ky-mike) that lil light of mine
(02:40:48) (ron) notice that the mind is always placed in a higher level...ruler of the soul...this spiritual mind...do you feel, you guys, that i'm correct with that?
(02:41:21) (ky-mike) go together
(02:41:30) (ron) same image with any level...spirit, mind and will
(02:41:48) (ron) ''SUPER-CONSCIOUS MIND IS NOT OF THE EARTH FORCES AT ALL. It is awakened on Earth only with the spiritual indwelling, and it is acquired individually.
(02:42:13) (ron) How is it acquired-how may there be the spiritual indwelling? Through prayer and meditation by turning within and becoming aware, or conscious of, the attributes of the spirit - and by APPLYING them. These attributes of the spirit are love, hope, faith, charity, patience, cooperation and tolerance. And the will is absolutely necessary for the entity's application of these virtues." No. 900-21
(02:42:48) (diane) boy, is it ever
(02:43:02) (ron) Thus HERE AND NOW we may build higher levels of consciousness. If we are tuned to self-indulgence, hate, greed, intolerance, impatience, rebellion and pride, these become destructive forces in the soul's growth.
(02:43:32) (ron) Now let us study some of the mental planes which are symbolized by our sojourns in the environs among the planets.
(02:43:54) (ron) What happens after we pass through God's Other Door? Reading No. 3744 describes it thus: "Immediately after death, there is a period of unconsciousness, the duration of which is governed by the spiritual development of the entity. After death, the soul and
(02:44:02) (ky-mike) an over coming them . to see wat is important.... evolving
(02:44:33) (ron) this is the same with Eastern philosophy, or Theosophical text
(02:44:48) (ron) What happens after we pass through God's Other Door? Reading No. 3744 describes it thus: "Immediately after death, there is a period of unconsciousness, the duration of which is governed by the spiritual development of the entity. After death, the soul and
(02:44:59) (ron) spirit FEED UPON - AND IN A SENSE ARE POSSESSED BY - what was created by the mind during the recent Earth experience. Whatever has been gained in the physical plane must be used."
(02:46:01) (ky-mike) polishing the soul ... i call it... advancment !
(02:46:01) (ron) well, it "must be used"...gotta keep coming back until a certain point is reached i suppose
(02:46:21) (ron) You may be wondering, "What about the millions who do not believe they are souls? Those who live only for self, who feed only upon their emotions, who have no understanding of the continuity of life?"
(02:46:55) (ron) These remain in that state of un-consciousness for years and years, until eventually their souls are ready for the developing levels of consciousness, for the soul mind can choose. It can realize wherein it has failed, and goes to whatever planet it needs for further development.
(02:47:27) (ron) One Life Reading described this dwelling in the in-between plane as a long rest - a meditating period for the soul, between earthly sojourns. We learn from the Readings that all souls need some rest, after the strenuousness of life on Earth. We also learn that many
(02:47:39) (ron) souls choose to return quickly, but others remain in other planes or dimensions for hundreds of years, as we count time. There is no time, however, in eternity: all time is one.
(02:48:03) (ky-mike) well said
(02:48:46) (diane) these resting souls
(02:49:07) (ron) finished for today...conversation...open chat....my thoughts along the way are those idea from the readings or commentary catches my attention
(02:49:09) (diane) suddenly awaken, and proceed to other planets?
(02:49:26) (diane) whew
(02:49:48) (ron) thus, something for further contemplation and how to put it toegher for personl understanding
(02:49:50) (diane) really interesting info ron. ty
(02:50:02) (WalksInSpirit) Great info, Ron! Thanks!
(02:50:07) (diane) yeah...more to chew on
(02:50:18) (ky-mike) well done ron ...good stuff ,
(02:50:41) (ky-mike) all i can say is ...... MORE !
(02:51:21) (diane) you'll get more, ky, don't fret! lol
(02:51:42) (ky-mike) we who hav evolved .. r ready to move on ... an waiting
(02:51:43) (ron) i think what is being said here is that the more a soul is materialiscally inclined, is selfish etc...the longer it takes for it become aware of its transition...i beive this is what is being said here...the same with Theosophical text
(02:52:07) (ky-mike) yes
(02:52:51) (ron) i have to stop there...there is plenty more from this text...i happen to like way is being presented...much easier for understanding
(02:53:04) (ky-mike) as ricky sang .. i learned my lessons well !
(02:53:35) (ky-mike) next time ron
(02:53:55) (diane) yes ron...presentation is nice and simple. i like it very much
(02:54:11) (ky-mike) in the groove ron
(02:15:48) (ron) LEVELS OF CONSCIOUSNESS BETWEEN INCARNATIONS by Lydia J. Schrader Gray
(02:16:07) (ron) On a large bulletin board at our Association Headquarters, there is a small card with these words written upon it: "A servant of God once lived here and his spirit lingers on."
(02:16:33) (ron) That man, that servant of God, was Edgar Cayce: one of the world's greatest clairvoyants, or "clear see-ers." As Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary defines it: "Clairvoyance - the power of discerning objects not present to the senses, but regarded as having objective reality."
(02:16:34) (ky-mike) cool
(02:17:21) (ron) Edgar Cayce's soul was closely attuned to the infinite, as were the prophets of old; in evolutionary growth an old soul; and one who by his own efforts in past incarnations had earned the right to perceive the invisible worlds.
(02:17:31) (ky-mike) e c .. 1 of the lords lights !
(02:17:59) (ron) In Life Readings given by Edgar Cayce may be found a wealth of spiritual truths -universal and Cosmic Laws, as they affect and influence mankind. The Readings them-selves stated very emphatically: "These truths should be given ONLY TO THOSE WHO SEEK."
(02:18:33) (ron) Not long ago, a young M.D. especially interested in heart disease spent three weeks at Headquarters, reading what was given in the Physical readings about this bodily ailment. He was astounded at the in-formation he found and told me, "This man was a hundred years be-fore his time!" Just so, the spiritual truths found in the Life Readings may be
(02:19:22) (ron) hundreds of years before their time; and even a hundred years hence, many will not be as skeptical of the source - the unusual powers of Edgar Cayce - as now. We who are seekers, in this day and time, are greatly blest by having spiritual truths available for our study. We can know that it is not by chance that we are permitted to learn and practice the
(02:20:04) (ron) knowledge revealed in the Readings about the Laws of the Spirit - the Laws of Balance, Attraction, Harmony and Evolution; of Cause and Effect, or Karma; of continuity of life and life after death. This brings us to our special subject, LEVELS OF CONSCIOUSNESS BETWEEN INCARNATIONS, or as some call it, "Citizens of the Universe."
(02:20:39) (ron) In what respect are we citizens of the universe ? Well, because we are citizens not only of the earth - but of the planets also - by reason of our govern and influence the planet sojourns there, between incarnations.
(02:21:02) (ron) In the records left by Edgar Cayce, we find many statements describing the spiritual laws pertaining to the continuity of the soul; whether in the material plane or in other states of consciousness, or mental planes, among the planets.
(02:21:34) (ron) Now, there must have been a FIRST CAUSE for souls entering the earth plane, or incarnating. The Readings often stated that the First Cause was that the created should become a companion of the Creator, as all souls were in the beginning. Their desire to become as Gods brought about a separation from the Creator; and sin entered because of
(02:22:02) (ron) rebellion in the souls' mental forces. By the Grace of God, all souls were given the gift of free will; then, through the application of that free will, souls must eventually find their way back to God, or the First Cause. So it is well for man to analyze and understand himself, that he may know whence he came and whither he is going.
(02:22:37) (ron) To clarify this, let me quote from Reading No. 5755-2. "Remember, the earth is only a speck - a part of Creation - where souls projected themselves into matter. Thus they brought with them a conscious awareness of themselves; ENTERTAINING THE IDEA THAT THEY 'HAD THE ABILITY TO CREATED, WITHOUT THE FORCES OF THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH.
(02:23:54) (ron) "Thus realms of systems came into being. We know them as the solar system, or planetary systems, which govern and influence the planet Earth.
(02:24:22) (ron) "Earth, in this solar system, merely represents three dimensions. Then how many dimensions or levels of consciousness are in this solar sys-tem? Eight! What position does the Earth occupy? The third! What position do others occupy? That relative relationship, one to another." (The law of relativity undoubtedly applies here.)
(02:25:06) (ron) "Who is the author and finisher of these systems? The Word - He who made Himself manifest in the flesh. Who is the beginning and the end? Jesus the Christ."
(02:25:52) (ron) Remember in the first chapter of Genesis when God said "let us make man in our image"...?
(02:26:19) (ron) cahpter one
(02:26:25) (ron) MENTAL URGES
(02:26:45) (ron) Thus there are many levels of consciousness, or many mansions, symbolized by what we know as the planets. The soul lives on after death, in other realms of consciousness; making its record upon the soul memory, or in the soul mind of the entity. In all of the Life Readings astrological urges and innate influences were given for the individuals.
(02:27:54) (ron) Mental urges or influences, the Readings gave, come from the experiences of the soul mind during the period BETWEEN incarnations in the earth plane. Emotional urges come from past lives in the earth.
(02:29:41) (ron) now, we can recognize distinctions here...mental urges come from planetary sojourns between earthly incarnations and emotional urges, or carry overs have their origins thru earthly experiences, earthly incarnations
(02:30:25) (ron) These Life Readings present a beautiful system of spiritual evolution. The human soul is shown to have an important place in the scheme of the Universe.
(02:30:48) (ron) The importance of astrological urges is explained by pointing out that each soul passes through planes of consciousness between appearances in the Earth. These planes, or levels of consciousness, are SYMBOLIZED by the planets of our solar system: Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto.
(02:31:32) (ron) In each of the environs governed by these planets, the soul takes on a form suitable to that level of consciousness, and continues its spiritual growth. The order, or sequence, of these experiences is governed by the action of the WILL of the soul during its earthly experience.
(02:33:22) (ron) note that spiritual growth takes place on the mental level...and i suppose that that emotional development is the result, a reaction of the earth the earthly
(02:33:54) (ron) Reading No. 2132-L-l states: "Astrological urges are not existent just because of the position of the Sun, Moon or any of the planets at the time of birth; but rather because the soul of the entity is part of the universal consciousness, and HAS DWELT IN THOSE ENVIRONS."
(02:35:50) (ron) and mental devlopment takes place because the soul has entered the human experience thru initiation (according to Eastern, or Theosophical text)...whereas when in the animal kingdom it was developing the emotional nature
(02:36:16) (ron) here were are devloping the mind
(02:36:21) (ron) Reading No. 2132-L-l states: "Astrological urges are not existent just because of the position of the Sun, Moon or any of the planets at the time of birth; but rather because the soul of the entity is part of the universal consciousness, and HAS DWELT IN THOSE ENVIRONS."
(02:36:49) (ron) to rule over our unruly emotional nature :)
(02:36:56) (ron) The implications in this one statement reveal an insight into a cosmic plan. In this plan, souls are an integral part of the universe. Is this astrology? The Readings say that it would be more correct to term it occult astrology; for the positions of the planets - Sun and Moon, and planets - at the time of birth indicate where the soul has journeyed, or tarried.
(02:37:16) (ky-mike) the advancment of the soul.. with the use of the mind ,the levelsthru time with reincarnation
(02:37:35) (ron) and i've tarried here too long
(02:37:41) (ron) In occult astrology, the planet nearest the mid-heaven is the one from which the soul took its flight.
(02:37:49) (ky-mike) me to ron
(02:37:59) (ron) The planet mentioned first in each Life Reading seems in many cases to have been the one nearest the midheaven - or the latest plane of consciousness where the entity sojourned before entering the Earth plane for its present experience. As such, it greatly influences the life. It also seems to indicate the general trend of activity, or tendencies to activity.
(02:38:38) (ron) WHAT PART OF THE SELF MAKES THE JOURNEYS?
(02:39:05) (ky-mike) the soul
(02:39:06) (ron) but one person suggests that we have to get rid of "self"...hmmm....
(02:39:33) (ron) right mike
(02:39:39) (ron) The superconscious mind becomes the mind of the soul, in those interim's between material manifestations. This is the mind which travels with the soul in all its journeys through many states of awareness, into realms beyond the physical.
(02:39:52) (ky-mike) that lil light of mine
(02:40:48) (ron) notice that the mind is always placed in a higher level...ruler of the soul...this spiritual mind...do you feel, you guys, that i'm correct with that?
(02:41:21) (ky-mike) go together
(02:41:30) (ron) same image with any level...spirit, mind and will
(02:41:48) (ron) ''SUPER-CONSCIOUS MIND IS NOT OF THE EARTH FORCES AT ALL. It is awakened on Earth only with the spiritual indwelling, and it is acquired individually.
(02:42:13) (ron) How is it acquired-how may there be the spiritual indwelling? Through prayer and meditation by turning within and becoming aware, or conscious of, the attributes of the spirit - and by APPLYING them. These attributes of the spirit are love, hope, faith, charity, patience, cooperation and tolerance. And the will is absolutely necessary for the entity's application of these virtues." No. 900-21
(02:42:48) (diane) boy, is it ever
(02:43:02) (ron) Thus HERE AND NOW we may build higher levels of consciousness. If we are tuned to self-indulgence, hate, greed, intolerance, impatience, rebellion and pride, these become destructive forces in the soul's growth.
(02:43:32) (ron) Now let us study some of the mental planes which are symbolized by our sojourns in the environs among the planets.
(02:43:54) (ron) What happens after we pass through God's Other Door? Reading No. 3744 describes it thus: "Immediately after death, there is a period of unconsciousness, the duration of which is governed by the spiritual development of the entity. After death, the soul and
(02:44:02) (ky-mike) an over coming them . to see wat is important.... evolving
(02:44:33) (ron) this is the same with Eastern philosophy, or Theosophical text
(02:44:48) (ron) What happens after we pass through God's Other Door? Reading No. 3744 describes it thus: "Immediately after death, there is a period of unconsciousness, the duration of which is governed by the spiritual development of the entity. After death, the soul and
(02:44:59) (ron) spirit FEED UPON - AND IN A SENSE ARE POSSESSED BY - what was created by the mind during the recent Earth experience. Whatever has been gained in the physical plane must be used."
(02:46:01) (ky-mike) polishing the soul ... i call it... advancment !
(02:46:01) (ron) well, it "must be used"...gotta keep coming back until a certain point is reached i suppose
(02:46:21) (ron) You may be wondering, "What about the millions who do not believe they are souls? Those who live only for self, who feed only upon their emotions, who have no understanding of the continuity of life?"
(02:46:55) (ron) These remain in that state of un-consciousness for years and years, until eventually their souls are ready for the developing levels of consciousness, for the soul mind can choose. It can realize wherein it has failed, and goes to whatever planet it needs for further development.
(02:47:27) (ron) One Life Reading described this dwelling in the in-between plane as a long rest - a meditating period for the soul, between earthly sojourns. We learn from the Readings that all souls need some rest, after the strenuousness of life on Earth. We also learn that many
(02:47:39) (ron) souls choose to return quickly, but others remain in other planes or dimensions for hundreds of years, as we count time. There is no time, however, in eternity: all time is one.
(02:48:03) (ky-mike) well said
(02:48:46) (diane) these resting souls
(02:49:07) (ron) finished for today...conversation...open chat....my thoughts along the way are those idea from the readings or commentary catches my attention
(02:49:09) (diane) suddenly awaken, and proceed to other planets?
(02:49:26) (diane) whew
(02:49:48) (ron) thus, something for further contemplation and how to put it toegher for personl understanding
(02:49:50) (diane) really interesting info ron. ty
(02:50:02) (WalksInSpirit) Great info, Ron! Thanks!
(02:50:07) (diane) yeah...more to chew on
(02:50:18) (ky-mike) well done ron ...good stuff ,
(02:50:41) (ky-mike) all i can say is ...... MORE !
(02:51:21) (diane) you'll get more, ky, don't fret! lol
(02:51:42) (ky-mike) we who hav evolved .. r ready to move on ... an waiting
(02:51:43) (ron) i think what is being said here is that the more a soul is materialiscally inclined, is selfish etc...the longer it takes for it become aware of its transition...i beive this is what is being said here...the same with Theosophical text
(02:52:07) (ky-mike) yes
(02:52:51) (ron) i have to stop there...there is plenty more from this text...i happen to like way is being presented...much easier for understanding
(02:53:04) (ky-mike) as ricky sang .. i learned my lessons well !
(02:53:35) (ky-mike) next time ron
(02:53:55) (diane) yes ron...presentation is nice and simple. i like it very much
(02:54:11) (ky-mike) in the groove ron
