Post by WalksInSpirit on Nov 4, 2007 22:27:14 GMT -5
Revelations Study: 11-04-07
(09:12:15) (@autogreeter) Good Evening. Welcome to A Study On Revelations - Hosted By Roz. Please feel free to comment or ask questions at any time.
(09:23:38) (@roz1) Lets Center; Allow the Presence of God to come into your being. Take a very deep breath, hold to the count of 8 , release to the count of 8. Allow your mind and heart, to resonate to the impetus of the God within and the God without. Almighty Father, bless our study, that we bring into manifestation your will for our lives that we may minister to each other through YOUR Word. In the name of the Christ we ask these things. Amen
(09:24:04) (@cris7) Amen
(09:24:09) (shelley) Amen
(09:24:10) (@walksinspirit) Nunwe
(09:24:21) (@roz1) Chapter 17 verse1
(09:25:45) (@roz1) 1. THEN CAME ONE OF THE SEVEN ANGELS WHICH HAD THE SEVEN BOWLS AND TALKED WITH ME, SAYING COME, I WILL SHOW YOU THE CONDEMNATION OF THE GREAT HARLOT WHO SITS UPON MANY WATERS,
(09:26:08) (@roz1) I will now bring to your attention the unfitness of the attitude of self-serving, instead of being a channel through which the creative energies flow from God.
(09:26:35) (@roz1) 2. AND WITH WHOM THE KINGS OF THE EARTH HAVE COMMITTED ADULTERY, AND THE INHABITATS OF THE EARTH HAVE MADE DRUNK WITH THE WINE OF HER ADULTERY.
(09:26:59) (@roz1) The adulteration of the creativity dulls man's ability to express God on the earth.
(09:27:33) (@roz1) 3. S0 HE CARRIED ME AWAY IN THE SPIRIT INTO THE WILDERNESS; AND I SAW A WOMAN SITTING ON A SCARLET WILD BEAST INSCRIBED WITH MANY WORDS OF BLASPHEMY AND HAVING SEVEN HEADSAND TEN HORNS.
(09:28:09) (@roz1) In meditation I see "carried away in the spirit into the wilderness" that the creative principle "woman" is motivated by a bestial instinct and energy "sitting on a scarlet wild beast" that gives false information "inscribed with words of blasphemy". The seven motivators "seven heads" are governed "ten horns" by a concept that God is in man rather than man is in od. Man not fully manifesting God in his present state of development.
(09:29:31) (@roz1) 4. AND THE WOHAN WAS ARRAYED IN PURPLE AND SCARLET, AND ADORNED WITH GOLD AND PRECIOUS STONES AND PEARLS; AND SHEL HAD A GOLDEN CUP ON HER HAND FULL OF ABONIMATIONS AND FILTHINESS OF HER ADULTERY ON EARTH.
(09:30:24) (@roz1) Purple is any color to which red has been added. The energy adulterated and in pure form "arrayed in purple and scarlet", even adorned in beauty ~old and precious stones and pearls, is yet an abomination. When man enters into the creation process for his own self- gratification, the patterning is adulterated with pollution.
(09:31:08) (@roz1) 5. AND UPON HER FOREHEAD WAS A NAME WRITTEN THAT NOT ALL COULD UNDERSTAND: BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
(09:31:42) (@roz1) Babylon means confusion. "Mother of harlots and abominations of the earth" is adulterations and pollutions. When the ideal and actions are not in accord, confusion, adulteration and pollution is the result.
(09:32:17) (@roz1) Confusion happens when we have an ideal and do not act accordingly
(09:32:47) (@roz1) 6. AND I SAW THAT THE WOMAN WAS DRUNK WITH THE BLOOD OF THE SAINTS AND WITH THE BLOOD OF THE MARTYRS OF JESUS; AND WHEN I SAW HER, I WONDERED WITH GREAT AMANZEMENT.
(09:33:26) (@roz1) The life-force of saintliness and martyrdom of the followers of the Way shown by Jesus is a great energy flow. The misuse and abuse of the life-force by dulling thee senses "drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus", causes amazement.
(09:34:10) (@roz1) 7. AND THE ANGEL SAID TO ME, WHY DO YOU WONDER? I WILL TELL YOU THE MYSTERY OF THE WOMAN AND OF THE WILD BEAST THAT CARRIES HER, WHICH HAS THE SEVEN HEADS AND THE TEN HORNS.
(09:34:47) (@roz1) The mysterious compendium now revealed.
(09:34:55) (@roz1) comments or questions?
(09:35:31) (@roz1) 8. THE WILD BEAST THAT YOU SAW WAS, AND IS NOT,AND IS READY TO COME UP FROM THE BOTTOMLESS PIT AND GO TO BE DESTROYED; AND THOSE WHO DWELL ON EARTH WHOSE NAMES WERE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE FRO M THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD SHALL WONDER WHEN THEY BEHOLD THE BEAST THAT WAS, AND IS NOT, AND NOW WHOSE END HAS COME.
(09:36:10) (@roz1) The wild beast who was and is not and is ready to come up is a configuration of mind. The mind of man engages the mind of God. Man seeks himself, man, in many phases of men, thus the beast was.
(09:36:50) (@roz1) Man seeks now to understand God. He then finds that God manifests in man. Hence the beast was in God and yet is not. This configuration is "ready to come up from the bottomless pit" infinite possibilities ready to be destroyed by redemption. "not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world" are ones who have not yet come into a relationship with God. They shall "wonder when they behold the beast"
(09:37:30) (@roz1) They shall "wonder when they behold the beast" wonder when they see man in physical form who has overcome his beastly nature. Hence the beast that was and is not and yet is.
(09:38:32) (@roz1) need any clarification on the beast?
(09:39:20) (@roz1) we all have a working knowledge of it I thinkLOL
(09:41:16) (@roz1) The wild beast who was and is not and is ready to come up is a configuration of mind.
(09:41:47) (@roz1) The mind of man engages the mind of God. Man seeks himself, man, in many phases of men, thus the beast was.
(09:42:20) (@roz1) Man seeks now to understand God. He then finds that God manifests in man.
(09:43:23) (@roz1) He then finds that God manifests in man. in God and yet is not.
(09:44:02) (@roz1) This configuration is "ready to come up from the bottomless pit" infinite possibilities ready to be destroyed by redemption.
(09:44:10) (@roz1) with me so far
(09:44:53) (ark777) yes ma'am
(09:44:54) (@roz1) "not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world" are ones who have not yet come into a relationship with God. They shall "wonder when they behold the beast"
(09:45:32) (@roz1) when they see man in physical form who has overcome his beastly nature. Hence the beast that was and is not and yet is.
(09:45:41) (@roz1) everyone clear?
(09:45:46) (@cris7) yes
(09:46:08) (@roz1) alrightey then we willmove on
(09:46:40) (@roz1) 9. HERE IS UNDERSTANDING FOR HIM WHO HAS WISDOM: THE SEVEN HEADS ANE SEVEN HILLS ON WHICH THE WOMAN SITS.
(09:47:29) (@roz1) woman indcates our receptive feminine self
(09:48:07) (@roz1) Seven heads are seven phases of man or leading specifics of moving self into places of the Worship Of God, "seven hills".
(09:48:28) (@roz1) seven hills were previously mentioned
(09:49:06) (@roz1) (1) Creation of form best suited to experience materiality.
(09:49:50) (@roz1) as we are embodied in this marvelous physical body
(09:50:20) (@roz1) 2) God's embodiment of physical manifestation- man's mind in conception with physical being, able to conceive God as a configuration.
(09:50:50) (@roz1) stop me at any time if you need clarification
(09:51:12) (@roz1) (3) Asture Modicum- This concept of much for little finds man's emergence to see worth in life as in comparison to man's compelling drive to gratify self.
(09:51:27) (ark777) what does that mean,...god as a configuration?
(09:52:02) (@roz1) a totality mark
(09:52:16) (@roz1) (4) It is of consequence to call this phase self denial- It will call to mind thee idolatry of self to complement God's plan.
(09:52:49) (@roz1) (5) Latent Propensities- Godliness comes now more easily- God-like-ness becomes increasingly favorable.
(09:53:27) (@roz1) it is a step-by step movement in conscousness
(09:53:59) (@roz1) (6) Follow Master Teaching of more awareness of Godliness- It now becomes apparent that all manifestations are of God and man in harmonious specifics
(09:54:34) (@roz1) (7) It will not be of use to ponder such, as it concerns one's being totally aware of God. It is yet to be put into thought of man's comphresion.
(09:54:53) (@roz1) got it?
(09:55:23) (ark777) yes
(09:55:30) (@roz1) wonderful
(09:55:37) (@roz1) 10. AND THERE ARE SEVEN KINGS, OF WHOM FIVE HAVE FALLEN AND ONE IS AND THE OTHER HIS NOT YET COME; AND WHEN HE COMES HE SHALL CONTINUE ONLY FOR A SHORT TIME.
(09:56:17) (@roz1) There are seven ruling forces "kings~"~ (1) Creative Urge (2) Hind intelligence (3) Recognition that God is more than thee sum of the whole (4) Awareness of our resistance to God(5) Exercising our will to being our Godliness (6)Master teachings of man's role in harmonious specifics (7) Total awareness of God.
(09:56:35) (@roz1) MIND Intelligence
(09:56:59) (@roz1) more clarificaton
(09:57:30) (@roz1) At this point we have experienced five stages, "five have fallen". We are at phase six, "and one is". State seven has not yet come, and "when he comes he shall continue only for a short time". When we reach that seventh stage we will not need the earth experiences, as we now know them
(09:57:52) (ark777) so we are at 6th and 7th is to come?
(09:58:00) (@roz1) can you relate?
(09:58:28) (@roz1) yes if we have progressed to this state
(09:58:47) (@roz1) heady stuff isnt it?
(09:58:57) (ark777) for sure
(09:59:16) (shelley) yes it is
(09:59:21) (@roz1) 11. AND THE WILD BEAST THAT WAS, AND NO LONGER IS, EVEN HE IS THE EIGHTH AND IS ONE OF THE SEVEN DESTINED TO BE DESTROYED.
(09:59:53) (@roz1) The consciousness of the absence from God is the ruling force that is the eighth. "The wild beast that was and no longer is the one of the ruling forces that is destined to be destroyed"
(10:00:11) (@roz1) any discussion?
(10:00:46) (merri) does that mean our beastly instincts will be no more?
(10:01:48) (@roz1) exackle Merri we will have no consciousness except the god consciouosness
(10:02:32) (@roz1) 12. AND THE TEN HORNS WHICH YOU SAW ARE TEN KINGS WHO HAVE RECEIVED NO KINGDOM AS YET, BUT RECEIVE AUTHORITY AS KINGS FOR ONE HOUR WITH THE BEAST.
(10:03:04) (ark777) and all of this is to be if we work with the Lords prayer?
(10:03:34) (@roz1) indeed Mark and live the consciousness
(10:03:46) (@roz1) The ruling elements "ten kings" as yet are not in control. They receive authority (control) for a time allotted for the method of redemption. A lengthy period is not require~ to refocus attention. "One hour" is meant here as a short time.
(10:04:19) (@roz1) 13. THESE ARE OF ONE ACCORD, AND THEY SHALL GIVE THEIR STRENGTH AND AUTHORITY TO THE BEAST.
(10:04:44) (@roz1) The ruling forces use the One Power and will give energy to what ever we have focused the mind on.
(10:05:01) (@roz1) depends on what we focus on
(10:05:28) (@roz1) 14. THEY WILL MAKE WAR WITH THE LAMB, AND THE LAMB WILL CONQUER THEM, FOR HE IS LORD OF LORDS AND KINGS OF KINGS; AND THOSE WHO ARE WITH HIM ARE CALLED CHOSEN AND FAITHFUL.
(10:05:48) (@roz1) we bring in to manifestatio what ever we focus on
(10:06:32) (@roz1) since we are co-creators
(10:06:38) (@roz1) The duality of the selfless and selfish are in conflict "make war with the Lamb". All urges for Christ-like-ness "the Lamb" will conquer all if we choose the Way.
(10:07:22) (@roz1) 15. THEN HE SAID TO ME, THE WATERS WHICH YOU SAW, WHERE THE HARLOT SITS, ARE PEOPLES AND MULTITUDES AND NATIOINS AND TONGUES.
(10:07:56) (@roz1) The consciousnesses of the "peoples, multitudes and nations and tongues" make up the collective consciousness "the waters".
(10:08:40) (@roz1) we make up a part of the collective consciousness
(10:09:58) (@roz1) we have only to repeat the Lord's Prayer to change the chemisstry of our minds
(10:10:11) (@roz1) 16. AND THE TEN HORNS AND THE WILD BEAST WHICH YOU SAW SHALL HATE THE HARLOT, AND SHALL MAKE HER DESOLATE AND NAKED, AND SHALL EAT HER FLESH AND BURN HER WITH FIRE.
(10:11:02) (@roz1) pretty graphic isnt it?
(10:11:07) (@roz1) The urges for relationship with God and the participation in consciousness with Him, cause a hatred for perversion "hate the harlot" and a withdrawal of attention "make her desolate and naked" from the less than Christ-like way. The Christ like attitude assimilate and redeem these other attitudes "eat her flesh and burn her with fire".
(10:11:47) (@roz1) 17. FOR GOD HAS PUT INTO THEIR HEARTS TO DO HIS WILL AND TO BE OF ONE ACCORD AND TO GIVE THEIR KINGDOM TO THE WILD BEAST UNTIL THE WORDS OF GOD SHALL BE FUL- FILLED.
(10:12:41) (@roz1) "For God has put into our hearts to do His will and to be of one accord" and to allow the withdrawal of attention from self serving attitudes "give their kingdom to the wild beast" until the redemption of all the nature of man.
(10:13:15) (@roz1) 18. AND THE WOMAN WHOM YOU SAW IS THAT GREAT CITY WHICH HAS DOMINION OVER KINGS OF THE EARTH.
(10:13:40) (@roz1) We live in a physical manifestation, and in such manifestation, beings are governed by the laws and principles we have set up until we use a better way,
(10:14:14) (@roz1) WE will stop there for tonite
(10:14:44) (@roz1) a lot to digest isnt it?
(10:15:00) (merri) sure is!
(10:15:02) (shelley) yes and a very long day today
(10:15:10) (shelley) because of time change
(10:15:23) (@roz1) well we have an eternity to get 'er done
(10:15:37) (@cris7) Lets hope we don't take that long
(10:15:52) (@roz1) its a do-it-yourself kit
(10:16:44) (@roz1) as Cayce says every tub must sit on its own bottom
(10:17:25) (@roz1) good thing we have each other
(10:17:33) (ark777) no one can do it for us
(10:17:42) (@roz1) got that right Mark
(10:18:18) (@roz1) do yu find this comforting or disturbing?
(10:18:36) (@cris7) straight on
(10:18:42) (@roz1) or some of both
(10:18:50) (@roz1) agree Cris
(10:19:16) (merri) a reminder of how far we have to go yet
(10:19:21) (@roz1) I like it straight
(10:19:29) (@roz1) yup Merri
(10:20:08) (@roz1) but even the taste and glimpse we get is so awesome
(10:20:12) (merri) but our time is not God's time
(10:20:26) (@roz1) so right
(10:20:44) (merri) after all an hour is probably a couple hundred years!
(10:21:17) (@roz1) as he said in one short hour
(10:21:52) (merri) compared to eternity one short hour is a blink
(10:21:53) (@cris7) I wonder how we will perceive our lives when they are over. If we think it went fast or dragged
(10:21:57) (@roz1) the language is daunting sometimes
(10:22:15) (@roz1) until we decipher it
(10:22:47) (@cris7) When I look back it seems as though time has sped by
(10:23:02) (@roz1) all symbolism portayes it so graphically
(10:23:55) (merri) a blink of an eye, Cris!
(10:24:42) (ark777) God is the host with the most
(10:25:12) (@roz1) from here on it becomes more comforting
(10:28:14) (ark777) thank you Roz
(10:28:25) (merri) thankyou for tonights lesson Roz
(10:28:27) (@walksinspirit) Great study tonight, Roz! Thank you so much!
(10:28:31) (@roz1) so welcome Mark
(10:28:53) (ark777) take care everyone
(10:28:56) (@roz1) Luv ya all
(09:23:38) (@roz1) Lets Center; Allow the Presence of God to come into your being. Take a very deep breath, hold to the count of 8 , release to the count of 8. Allow your mind and heart, to resonate to the impetus of the God within and the God without. Almighty Father, bless our study, that we bring into manifestation your will for our lives that we may minister to each other through YOUR Word. In the name of the Christ we ask these things. Amen
(09:24:04) (@cris7) Amen
(09:24:09) (shelley) Amen
(09:24:10) (@walksinspirit) Nunwe
(09:24:21) (@roz1) Chapter 17 verse1
(09:25:45) (@roz1) 1. THEN CAME ONE OF THE SEVEN ANGELS WHICH HAD THE SEVEN BOWLS AND TALKED WITH ME, SAYING COME, I WILL SHOW YOU THE CONDEMNATION OF THE GREAT HARLOT WHO SITS UPON MANY WATERS,
(09:26:08) (@roz1) I will now bring to your attention the unfitness of the attitude of self-serving, instead of being a channel through which the creative energies flow from God.
(09:26:35) (@roz1) 2. AND WITH WHOM THE KINGS OF THE EARTH HAVE COMMITTED ADULTERY, AND THE INHABITATS OF THE EARTH HAVE MADE DRUNK WITH THE WINE OF HER ADULTERY.
(09:26:59) (@roz1) The adulteration of the creativity dulls man's ability to express God on the earth.
(09:27:33) (@roz1) 3. S0 HE CARRIED ME AWAY IN THE SPIRIT INTO THE WILDERNESS; AND I SAW A WOMAN SITTING ON A SCARLET WILD BEAST INSCRIBED WITH MANY WORDS OF BLASPHEMY AND HAVING SEVEN HEADSAND TEN HORNS.
(09:28:09) (@roz1) In meditation I see "carried away in the spirit into the wilderness" that the creative principle "woman" is motivated by a bestial instinct and energy "sitting on a scarlet wild beast" that gives false information "inscribed with words of blasphemy". The seven motivators "seven heads" are governed "ten horns" by a concept that God is in man rather than man is in od. Man not fully manifesting God in his present state of development.
(09:29:31) (@roz1) 4. AND THE WOHAN WAS ARRAYED IN PURPLE AND SCARLET, AND ADORNED WITH GOLD AND PRECIOUS STONES AND PEARLS; AND SHEL HAD A GOLDEN CUP ON HER HAND FULL OF ABONIMATIONS AND FILTHINESS OF HER ADULTERY ON EARTH.
(09:30:24) (@roz1) Purple is any color to which red has been added. The energy adulterated and in pure form "arrayed in purple and scarlet", even adorned in beauty ~old and precious stones and pearls, is yet an abomination. When man enters into the creation process for his own self- gratification, the patterning is adulterated with pollution.
(09:31:08) (@roz1) 5. AND UPON HER FOREHEAD WAS A NAME WRITTEN THAT NOT ALL COULD UNDERSTAND: BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
(09:31:42) (@roz1) Babylon means confusion. "Mother of harlots and abominations of the earth" is adulterations and pollutions. When the ideal and actions are not in accord, confusion, adulteration and pollution is the result.
(09:32:17) (@roz1) Confusion happens when we have an ideal and do not act accordingly
(09:32:47) (@roz1) 6. AND I SAW THAT THE WOMAN WAS DRUNK WITH THE BLOOD OF THE SAINTS AND WITH THE BLOOD OF THE MARTYRS OF JESUS; AND WHEN I SAW HER, I WONDERED WITH GREAT AMANZEMENT.
(09:33:26) (@roz1) The life-force of saintliness and martyrdom of the followers of the Way shown by Jesus is a great energy flow. The misuse and abuse of the life-force by dulling thee senses "drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus", causes amazement.
(09:34:10) (@roz1) 7. AND THE ANGEL SAID TO ME, WHY DO YOU WONDER? I WILL TELL YOU THE MYSTERY OF THE WOMAN AND OF THE WILD BEAST THAT CARRIES HER, WHICH HAS THE SEVEN HEADS AND THE TEN HORNS.
(09:34:47) (@roz1) The mysterious compendium now revealed.
(09:34:55) (@roz1) comments or questions?
(09:35:31) (@roz1) 8. THE WILD BEAST THAT YOU SAW WAS, AND IS NOT,AND IS READY TO COME UP FROM THE BOTTOMLESS PIT AND GO TO BE DESTROYED; AND THOSE WHO DWELL ON EARTH WHOSE NAMES WERE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE FRO M THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD SHALL WONDER WHEN THEY BEHOLD THE BEAST THAT WAS, AND IS NOT, AND NOW WHOSE END HAS COME.
(09:36:10) (@roz1) The wild beast who was and is not and is ready to come up is a configuration of mind. The mind of man engages the mind of God. Man seeks himself, man, in many phases of men, thus the beast was.
(09:36:50) (@roz1) Man seeks now to understand God. He then finds that God manifests in man. Hence the beast was in God and yet is not. This configuration is "ready to come up from the bottomless pit" infinite possibilities ready to be destroyed by redemption. "not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world" are ones who have not yet come into a relationship with God. They shall "wonder when they behold the beast"
(09:37:30) (@roz1) They shall "wonder when they behold the beast" wonder when they see man in physical form who has overcome his beastly nature. Hence the beast that was and is not and yet is.
(09:38:32) (@roz1) need any clarification on the beast?
(09:39:20) (@roz1) we all have a working knowledge of it I thinkLOL
(09:41:16) (@roz1) The wild beast who was and is not and is ready to come up is a configuration of mind.
(09:41:47) (@roz1) The mind of man engages the mind of God. Man seeks himself, man, in many phases of men, thus the beast was.
(09:42:20) (@roz1) Man seeks now to understand God. He then finds that God manifests in man.
(09:43:23) (@roz1) He then finds that God manifests in man. in God and yet is not.
(09:44:02) (@roz1) This configuration is "ready to come up from the bottomless pit" infinite possibilities ready to be destroyed by redemption.
(09:44:10) (@roz1) with me so far
(09:44:53) (ark777) yes ma'am
(09:44:54) (@roz1) "not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world" are ones who have not yet come into a relationship with God. They shall "wonder when they behold the beast"
(09:45:32) (@roz1) when they see man in physical form who has overcome his beastly nature. Hence the beast that was and is not and yet is.
(09:45:41) (@roz1) everyone clear?
(09:45:46) (@cris7) yes
(09:46:08) (@roz1) alrightey then we willmove on
(09:46:40) (@roz1) 9. HERE IS UNDERSTANDING FOR HIM WHO HAS WISDOM: THE SEVEN HEADS ANE SEVEN HILLS ON WHICH THE WOMAN SITS.
(09:47:29) (@roz1) woman indcates our receptive feminine self
(09:48:07) (@roz1) Seven heads are seven phases of man or leading specifics of moving self into places of the Worship Of God, "seven hills".
(09:48:28) (@roz1) seven hills were previously mentioned
(09:49:06) (@roz1) (1) Creation of form best suited to experience materiality.
(09:49:50) (@roz1) as we are embodied in this marvelous physical body
(09:50:20) (@roz1) 2) God's embodiment of physical manifestation- man's mind in conception with physical being, able to conceive God as a configuration.
(09:50:50) (@roz1) stop me at any time if you need clarification
(09:51:12) (@roz1) (3) Asture Modicum- This concept of much for little finds man's emergence to see worth in life as in comparison to man's compelling drive to gratify self.
(09:51:27) (ark777) what does that mean,...god as a configuration?
(09:52:02) (@roz1) a totality mark
(09:52:16) (@roz1) (4) It is of consequence to call this phase self denial- It will call to mind thee idolatry of self to complement God's plan.
(09:52:49) (@roz1) (5) Latent Propensities- Godliness comes now more easily- God-like-ness becomes increasingly favorable.
(09:53:27) (@roz1) it is a step-by step movement in conscousness
(09:53:59) (@roz1) (6) Follow Master Teaching of more awareness of Godliness- It now becomes apparent that all manifestations are of God and man in harmonious specifics
(09:54:34) (@roz1) (7) It will not be of use to ponder such, as it concerns one's being totally aware of God. It is yet to be put into thought of man's comphresion.
(09:54:53) (@roz1) got it?
(09:55:23) (ark777) yes
(09:55:30) (@roz1) wonderful
(09:55:37) (@roz1) 10. AND THERE ARE SEVEN KINGS, OF WHOM FIVE HAVE FALLEN AND ONE IS AND THE OTHER HIS NOT YET COME; AND WHEN HE COMES HE SHALL CONTINUE ONLY FOR A SHORT TIME.
(09:56:17) (@roz1) There are seven ruling forces "kings~"~ (1) Creative Urge (2) Hind intelligence (3) Recognition that God is more than thee sum of the whole (4) Awareness of our resistance to God(5) Exercising our will to being our Godliness (6)Master teachings of man's role in harmonious specifics (7) Total awareness of God.
(09:56:35) (@roz1) MIND Intelligence
(09:56:59) (@roz1) more clarificaton
(09:57:30) (@roz1) At this point we have experienced five stages, "five have fallen". We are at phase six, "and one is". State seven has not yet come, and "when he comes he shall continue only for a short time". When we reach that seventh stage we will not need the earth experiences, as we now know them
(09:57:52) (ark777) so we are at 6th and 7th is to come?
(09:58:00) (@roz1) can you relate?
(09:58:28) (@roz1) yes if we have progressed to this state
(09:58:47) (@roz1) heady stuff isnt it?
(09:58:57) (ark777) for sure
(09:59:16) (shelley) yes it is
(09:59:21) (@roz1) 11. AND THE WILD BEAST THAT WAS, AND NO LONGER IS, EVEN HE IS THE EIGHTH AND IS ONE OF THE SEVEN DESTINED TO BE DESTROYED.
(09:59:53) (@roz1) The consciousness of the absence from God is the ruling force that is the eighth. "The wild beast that was and no longer is the one of the ruling forces that is destined to be destroyed"
(10:00:11) (@roz1) any discussion?
(10:00:46) (merri) does that mean our beastly instincts will be no more?
(10:01:48) (@roz1) exackle Merri we will have no consciousness except the god consciouosness
(10:02:32) (@roz1) 12. AND THE TEN HORNS WHICH YOU SAW ARE TEN KINGS WHO HAVE RECEIVED NO KINGDOM AS YET, BUT RECEIVE AUTHORITY AS KINGS FOR ONE HOUR WITH THE BEAST.
(10:03:04) (ark777) and all of this is to be if we work with the Lords prayer?
(10:03:34) (@roz1) indeed Mark and live the consciousness
(10:03:46) (@roz1) The ruling elements "ten kings" as yet are not in control. They receive authority (control) for a time allotted for the method of redemption. A lengthy period is not require~ to refocus attention. "One hour" is meant here as a short time.
(10:04:19) (@roz1) 13. THESE ARE OF ONE ACCORD, AND THEY SHALL GIVE THEIR STRENGTH AND AUTHORITY TO THE BEAST.
(10:04:44) (@roz1) The ruling forces use the One Power and will give energy to what ever we have focused the mind on.
(10:05:01) (@roz1) depends on what we focus on
(10:05:28) (@roz1) 14. THEY WILL MAKE WAR WITH THE LAMB, AND THE LAMB WILL CONQUER THEM, FOR HE IS LORD OF LORDS AND KINGS OF KINGS; AND THOSE WHO ARE WITH HIM ARE CALLED CHOSEN AND FAITHFUL.
(10:05:48) (@roz1) we bring in to manifestatio what ever we focus on
(10:06:32) (@roz1) since we are co-creators
(10:06:38) (@roz1) The duality of the selfless and selfish are in conflict "make war with the Lamb". All urges for Christ-like-ness "the Lamb" will conquer all if we choose the Way.
(10:07:22) (@roz1) 15. THEN HE SAID TO ME, THE WATERS WHICH YOU SAW, WHERE THE HARLOT SITS, ARE PEOPLES AND MULTITUDES AND NATIOINS AND TONGUES.
(10:07:56) (@roz1) The consciousnesses of the "peoples, multitudes and nations and tongues" make up the collective consciousness "the waters".
(10:08:40) (@roz1) we make up a part of the collective consciousness
(10:09:58) (@roz1) we have only to repeat the Lord's Prayer to change the chemisstry of our minds
(10:10:11) (@roz1) 16. AND THE TEN HORNS AND THE WILD BEAST WHICH YOU SAW SHALL HATE THE HARLOT, AND SHALL MAKE HER DESOLATE AND NAKED, AND SHALL EAT HER FLESH AND BURN HER WITH FIRE.
(10:11:02) (@roz1) pretty graphic isnt it?
(10:11:07) (@roz1) The urges for relationship with God and the participation in consciousness with Him, cause a hatred for perversion "hate the harlot" and a withdrawal of attention "make her desolate and naked" from the less than Christ-like way. The Christ like attitude assimilate and redeem these other attitudes "eat her flesh and burn her with fire".
(10:11:47) (@roz1) 17. FOR GOD HAS PUT INTO THEIR HEARTS TO DO HIS WILL AND TO BE OF ONE ACCORD AND TO GIVE THEIR KINGDOM TO THE WILD BEAST UNTIL THE WORDS OF GOD SHALL BE FUL- FILLED.
(10:12:41) (@roz1) "For God has put into our hearts to do His will and to be of one accord" and to allow the withdrawal of attention from self serving attitudes "give their kingdom to the wild beast" until the redemption of all the nature of man.
(10:13:15) (@roz1) 18. AND THE WOMAN WHOM YOU SAW IS THAT GREAT CITY WHICH HAS DOMINION OVER KINGS OF THE EARTH.
(10:13:40) (@roz1) We live in a physical manifestation, and in such manifestation, beings are governed by the laws and principles we have set up until we use a better way,
(10:14:14) (@roz1) WE will stop there for tonite
(10:14:44) (@roz1) a lot to digest isnt it?
(10:15:00) (merri) sure is!
(10:15:02) (shelley) yes and a very long day today
(10:15:10) (shelley) because of time change
(10:15:23) (@roz1) well we have an eternity to get 'er done
(10:15:37) (@cris7) Lets hope we don't take that long
(10:15:52) (@roz1) its a do-it-yourself kit
(10:16:44) (@roz1) as Cayce says every tub must sit on its own bottom
(10:17:25) (@roz1) good thing we have each other
(10:17:33) (ark777) no one can do it for us
(10:17:42) (@roz1) got that right Mark
(10:18:18) (@roz1) do yu find this comforting or disturbing?
(10:18:36) (@cris7) straight on
(10:18:42) (@roz1) or some of both
(10:18:50) (@roz1) agree Cris
(10:19:16) (merri) a reminder of how far we have to go yet
(10:19:21) (@roz1) I like it straight
(10:19:29) (@roz1) yup Merri
(10:20:08) (@roz1) but even the taste and glimpse we get is so awesome
(10:20:12) (merri) but our time is not God's time
(10:20:26) (@roz1) so right
(10:20:44) (merri) after all an hour is probably a couple hundred years!
(10:21:17) (@roz1) as he said in one short hour
(10:21:52) (merri) compared to eternity one short hour is a blink
(10:21:53) (@cris7) I wonder how we will perceive our lives when they are over. If we think it went fast or dragged
(10:21:57) (@roz1) the language is daunting sometimes
(10:22:15) (@roz1) until we decipher it
(10:22:47) (@cris7) When I look back it seems as though time has sped by
(10:23:02) (@roz1) all symbolism portayes it so graphically
(10:23:55) (merri) a blink of an eye, Cris!
(10:24:42) (ark777) God is the host with the most
(10:25:12) (@roz1) from here on it becomes more comforting
(10:28:14) (ark777) thank you Roz
(10:28:25) (merri) thankyou for tonights lesson Roz
(10:28:27) (@walksinspirit) Great study tonight, Roz! Thank you so much!
(10:28:31) (@roz1) so welcome Mark
(10:28:53) (ark777) take care everyone
(10:28:56) (@roz1) Luv ya all