Post by Blu on Oct 3, 2007 20:32:32 GMT -5
Roz September 30, 2007
[21:23] <Roz> lets center
[21:23] <Roz> Lets Center; Allow the Presence of God to come into your being. Take a very deep breath, hold to the count of 8 , release to the count of 8. Allow your mind and heart, to resonate to the impetus of the God within and the God without. Almighty Father, bless our study, that we bring into manifestation your will for our lives that we may minister to each other through YOUR Word. In the name of the Christ we ask these things. Amen
[21:23] <Cris>
02 Amen
[21:24] <Roz> chapter 11 verse 16
[21:24] <ron1> amen
[21:24] <Roz> 16. AND THE FOUR AND TWENY ELDERS WHO SAT BEFORE THE THRONE OF GOD ON THEIR SEATS FELL UPON THEIR FACES AND WORSHIPPED GOD.
The four and twenty cranial nerves are stimulated in the manner that produces harmonious impulses directing the worship of God.
[21:25] <Roz> 17. SAYING, WE GIVE THINKS TO THEE, 0 LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, WHO IS AND WAS BECAUSE THOU HAST TAKEN TO THYSELF THY GREAT POWER AND HAST REIGNED
Thanksgiving brings into focus the affirmation of accomplishment. It is a necessary state of mind for the completion of the Divine energy flow.
[21:26] <Roz> don't you find that to be true in your life?
[21:27] <Roz> 18.18. AND THE NATIONS WERE ANGRY, AND THE WRATH HAS CONE, AND THE TIME OF TIHE DEAD, THAT THEY SHOULD BE JUDGED; AND TO REWARD SERVANTS, THE PROPHETS, AND THE SAINTS AND THOSE WHO REVERE THY NAME, SMALL AND GREAT; AND TO DESTROY THOSE WHO CORRUPT THE EARTH.
[21:27] <ron1> To be thankful...yes...I do that everyday
[21:27] <Roz> me too ron
[21:27] <Cris>
02Thanks is necessary
[21:28] <Roz> We have very disturbing inner elements at this point, quick anger and frustration at the purging. We let go old patterns of seeing, reacting; and sorting out the ones of living that are less than Godly. We cultivate habit patterns that bring peace and harmony, allowing the Christ Self to see and direct out lives. All other patterns fall away
[21:28] <Roz> and often times the letting go is not easy
[21:29] <Roz> 19. AND THE TEMPLE OF GOD WAS OPENED IN HEAVEN, AND THERE WAS SEEN IN HIS TEMPLE OF THE ARK OF HIS COMVENANT, AND THER WERE LIGHENINGS AND THUNDERING AND VOICES AND AN EARTHQUAKE AND A GREAT HAILSTORM.
[21:29] <Roz> With new direction, come upheavals.
[21:29] <Roz> Chapter 12 verse 1
[21:30] <Roz> 1. AND A GREAT SIGN WAS SEEN IN HEAVEN, A WOMAN CLOTHED WITH THE SUN, WITH THE MOON UNDER HER FEET AND UPON HER HEAD A CROWN OF TWELVE STARS;
[21:31] <Roz> 1. AND A GREAT SIGN WAS SEEN IN HEAVEN, A WOMAN CLOTHED WITH THE SUN, WITH THE MOON UNDER HER FEET AND UPON HER HEAD A CROWN OF TWELVE STARS;
[21:31] <Roz> A milestone in our awareness of God is seen in a heavenly state. The receptive state is enlightenment of self ”woman clothed with the sun” and the awareness of enlightenment reflected in others “the moon under her feet”. Within her understanding is the fulfillment of twelve states of awareness “crown of twelve stars”.
[21:32] <Roz> The twelve states of awareness have correlates in astrological signs. These have widespread appeal to the development of consciousness, even on a subliminal level. This is witnessed by the use of the signs on a massive scale in publications of horoscopes (hour watchers). The twelve states of awareness are developed in progression, each building on the previous steps. Jesus Christ was the herald of the Piscean Age. We are now on the thre
[21:33] <ron1> threshold of the Aquarian Age...:)?
[21:33] <Roz> this will be right up your alley Ron
[21:33] <Roz> The Astrological sign and the awareness correlates are;
[21:34] <Roz> Aries- The urge and ability to create and transform, the primal gift from our Creator
[21:34] <Roz> Taurus- Undifferentiated magnetism, the drawing to one of the elements of like-mindedness
[21:34] <Roz> Gemini-Creative imagination, the urge and ability to image, bring into focus, that which is to be brought into manifestation
[21:35] <Roz> Cancer- Gestation and birth, bringing about the conditions to manifest the elements brought into focus.
[21:35] <Roz> Leo-Individuation and will, the opportunity to bring the energy into a clarity of purpose
[21:36] <Roz> Virgo-intelligence over brutality-not despise what is inferior but master it and put it to good use
[21:36] <Roz> Scorpio- Dissolution, the dissolving of patterns contrary to optimum development
[21:37] <Roz> Sagittarius- Co-ordination synthesis, the bringing together for greater union.
[21:37] <Roz> Capricorn- Ascesis, self denial
[21:37] <Roz> Aquarius- Elimination of useless patterns, the ability to see a greater whole
[21:38] <Roz> Pisces- Mystic fusion, God manifesting in physical form.
[21:38] <Roz> Ron I would be real interested in your evaluation
[21:39] <MarkH> what of Libra?
[21:39] <ron1> What would you like roz?
[21:39] <Roz> how this agrees or differs with your study
[21:40] <Roz> hey Mark I'll go back and pick it up
[21:40] <Roz> “Libra- Equilibrium, perspective for our role in the larger scheme.
[21:40] <ron1> I would say this has been done pretty good...some of the words I might change, such as with Scorpio, instead of 'dissolution' I would use 'regeneration'
[21:41] <MarkH> thanks :-)
[21:41] <Roz> We have progressed or regressed in the stages and ages. Each lifetime we have the opportunity to be aware of and to participate in, these steps of development. Old, deadening patterns are ever before us to transform and redeem
[21:41] <ron1> the writer chose 'dissolution' cause Scorpio rulers the 8th house of 'death'
[21:41] <Roz> but we do have to have dissolution don't we?
[21:41] <ron1> rulers=rules*
[21:41] <Roz> to rid of old no longer useful patterns
[21:42] <ron1> regeneration always signifies death, at least for me
[21:42] <ron1> 8th house is the house of death, which does means the death of old emotional patterns
[21:42] <ron1> yes roz
[21:42] <Roz> cant we have regeneration without death?
[21:42] <ron1> patterns*
[21:43] <Roz> please expand
[21:43] <MarkH> regeneration is same as renew
[21:44] <ron1> death is a fact of life...death of the old on any level, physical, emotional, intellectual...aspects of our personalities that are no longer any use to us...they have become a hindrance
[21:44] <Roz> seems to me regeneration uses the same cellular pattern not a new cellular pattern
[21:44] <Roz> agreed Ron
[21:45] <ron1> this hindrance is eventually left behind...they are 'dead'
[21:45]
5<Roz> true any thots Cris?
[21:45] <Cris>
02I think we experience many deaths even in life
[21:46] <ron1> I suppose one may choose a more suitable word for them which may, even remotely, have the same meaning
[21:46] <Cris>
02We grow in to new habits and leave the old behind
[21:46] <Roz> exackle
[21:46]
5<ron1> yes cris
[21:46] <Roz> 2. AND SHE BEING WITH Child CRIED, TRAVAILING IN BIRTH, AND PAINED TO BE DELIVERED.
[21:46] <Cris>
02It can be educational, physical or many other ways
[21:47] <Roz> indeed
[21:47] <Roz> We give birth to a new life. No life has ever existed like the one we are now bringing forth. We are the creator of whom we bring forth in our travail. The awesomeness of the scope of our potential is a painful delivery.
[21:47] <Roz> 3. AND THERE APPEARED ANOTHER SIGN IN HEAVEN; AND BEHOLD, THERE I~LAS A GREAT FIERY DRAGON, HAVING SEVEN HEADS AND TEN HORNS, AND SEVEN CROWNS UPON HIS HEADS.
[21:48] <Roz> The great fiery dragon is man’s knowledge of his power; his cosmic role and his access to all knowledge. Seven heads are the infinite knowledge and the crowns on his heads; the rulership and government of all knowledge.
[21:48] <Roz> and we have access to all of it
[21:49] <Roz> 4.. AND HIS TAIL CUT OFF A THIRD OF THE STARS OF HEAVEN AND CAST THEM TO THE EARTH; ANDTHE DRAGON STOOD BEFORE THE WOMAN WHO WAS READY TO BE DELIVERED, SO AS TO DEVOUR HER CHILD AS SOON AS IT WAS BORN.
[21:49] <Roz> The reaction “his tail” cuts us off from a source of enlightenment outside
[21:50] <Roz> Our knowledge now confronts our receptive state “dragon stood before the woman”. We would incorporate all within our scope of power, even to our Christed Self.
[21:51] <Roz> 5. AND SHE BROUGHT FORTH A MALEL CHILD, WHO WAS TO SHEPHERD ALL THE NATIONS WITH A ROD OF IRON; AND HER CHILD HAS CAUGHT UP TO GOD, AND TO HIS THRONE.
[21:52] <Roz> The receptive facet brings forth a positive potential who is to lead with strength “male child who is to shepherd with a rod of iron”. This Christ-mindedness rises to God and His ruler ship for our lives.
[21:53] <Roz> 6. AND THE WOMAN FLED INTO THE WILDERNESS, THERE SHE HAD A PLACE PREPARED BY GOD, THAT THEY SHOULD FEED HER THERE A THOUSAND AND TWO HUNDRED AND THREE SCORE DAYS.
[21:53] <Roz> please feel free to comment or ask questions at any time
[21:53] <Roz> The receptive, intuitive self reserves its place within self: The Holy of Holies, the place of meditation, prayer, introspection, dreaming, that these elements should feed her. A thousand and two hundred and three score days is 3 1/2 yrs. 7yrs is the time needed to renew all cells in the body. One half the time is spent in setting the ideal and the other half putting it into practice. In seven years we can be transformed.
[21:54] <Roz> 7. AND THERE WAS WAR IN HEAVEN. MICHAEL AND HIS ANGELS FOUGHT AGAINST THE DRAGON; AND THE DRAGON AND HIS ANGELS FOUGHT.
[21:55] <Roz> The war in heaven is the struggle to recognize, confront and redeem the self-serving urges. Michael is the guardian of the Way.
[21:55] <Roz> 8. BUT DID NOT PREVAIL, NEITHER WAS THEIR PLACE FOUND ANY LONGER IN HEAVEN
[21:56] <Roz> At this juncture we recognize the urges for self-serving. We can no longer reconcile the idea that it is the responsibility of some other force, but must deal with them.
[21:57] <Roz> it is a do-it- yourself-kit we have been given the prototype
[21:57] <Roz> 9. THUS THE GREAT DRAGON WAS CAST OUT, THAT OLD SERPENT CALLED THE DEVIL AND SATAN, WHO DECEIVES THE WHOLE WORLD; HE WAS CAST OUT ON THE EARTH, AND HIS ANGELS WERE CAST OUT WITH HIM.
[21:58] <Roz> We recognize that in the self—serving mode, self-preservation has become possession, the creative urge becomes lust and spiritualization or evolution becomes vanity. We now must come to grips with these attributes in material form. These are messages “his angels cast out with him” of the involutive self to our consciousness.
[21:58] <Roz> any disagreements?
[21:59] <Cris>
02No
[21:59] <MarkH> no
[21:59] <Roz> 10. AND I HEARD A LOUD VOICE IN HEAVEN SAYING, NOW THE DELIVERECE AND THE POWER ANDTHE KINGDOM OF OUR GOD AND THE POWER OF HIS CHRIST HAVE BEEN ACCPMPLISHED; FOR THE ACCUSER OF OUR BRETHREN, WHO ACCUSED THEM BEFORE GOD DAY AND NIGHT IS CAST DOWN.
[22:00] <Roz> The loud voice of the Self to the self recognizes that all power is from God. We have the decision-to use the power in Godly or ungodly ways and we know the difference
[22:00] <Roz> 11. AND THEY HAVE CONQUERED HIM BY THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB A ND BY TH E WORD OF THEIR TESTIMONY; AND THEY DID NOT SPARE THEMSELVES EVEN TO DEATH.
[22:01] <Roz> The involutive urges are conquered by the sacrifice of the self-serving attitudes. We examine and determine the less than Godly aspects and sacrifice these by our actions, words and deeds
[22:02] <Roz> involutive meaning turning towards self serving
[22:03] <Roz> 12 .HEREFORE REJOICE, 0 HEAVENS AND YOU WHO DWELL IN THEN. WOE TO THE INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH AND OF THE SEA! FOR THE DEVIL HAS COME DOWN TO YOU; AND HIS WRATH IS GREAT, BECAUSE HE KNOWS THAT HIS TIME IS SHORT.
[22:03] <Roz> Rejoice, you who dwell in a heavenly state, woe to you who know earth life only, and have not formulated reasons and thoughts about life. The devil (misuse of life force) exacts a great toll because we must learn by experience and the lessons are painful.
[22:04] <Roz> do you find comfort in these words?
[22:04] <MarkH> a little,...I'm not there yet
[22:04] <Roz> 13. AND WHEN THE DRAGON SAW THAT HE WAS CAST DOWN TO THE EARTH, HE PERSUED THE WOMAN WHO HAD GIVEN BIRTH TO A SON.
[22:05] <Roz> but you know what to do and how to do it?
[22:05] <Roz> 13. AND WHEN THE DRAGON SAW THAT HE WAS CAST DOWN TO THE EARTH, HE PERSUED THE WOMAN WHO HAD GIVEN BIRTH TO A SON.
[22:05] <Roz> As soon as we recognize our demonic qualities, be begin to rationalize and put them into the context of growth.
[22:06] <Roz> 14. AND TO THE WOMAN WERE GIVEN TWO WINGS OF A GREAT EAGLE,THAT SHE MIGHT FLY FROM THE PRESENCE OF THE SERPENT TO THE WILDERNESS, INTO HER PLACE, WHERE SHE WOULD BE NOURISHED FOR YEARS AND MONTHS AND DAYS.
[22:07] <Roz> To the receptive attribute “woman” was given the balancing of mental activity “”two wings of a great eagle” that she might rise above her limitations and utilize the earth knowledge to a higher concept. In the retreat within self “wilderness”, this attribute can fulfill the rightful role “into her place” the nourishment of the soul.
[22:07] <Roz> don't you"
[22:08] <Roz> 15. THEN THE SERPENT SENT A FLOOD OF WATER OUT OF HIS MOUTH AFTER THE WOMAN, SO THAT HE MIGHT CAUSE HER TO BE SWEPT AWAY BY THE FLOOD.
[22:08] <Roz> There can be an engulfment by the collective unconsciousness “flood of water”. At this point ‘we become aware of the storehouse of information available. We are endangered of becoming lost in the vastness of our own consciousnesses.
[22:09] <Roz> 16. BUT THE EARTH HELPED THE WOMAN AND THE EARTH OPENED ITS MOUTH AND SWALLOWED UP THE WATER WHICH THE DRAGON HAD SPOUTED OUT OF HIS MOUTH.
[22:10] <Roz> Earth experiences swallow up the impact of all knowledge at one time. We use time as a tool to sort out of our consciousness what we can use at a given increment.
[22:10] <Roz> 17. AND THE DRAGON WAS ENRAGED AT THE WOMAN, AND HE WENT TO MAKE WAR WITH THE REST OF HER CHILDREN, WHO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD AND HAVE THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS.
[22:11] <Roz> The war is the tensions of our opposites. This is more pronounced in ones who “keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus “ because of the glaring difference, when you are aware, of the misuse.
[22:11] <Roz> We'll stop there for tonight its heady stuff isn't it?
[22:11] <Cris>
02It is very interesting
[22:12] <ron1> Very good Roz...
[22:12] <Roz> and written so graphically
[22:12] <Roz> you can see why ppl become confused at the symbology
[22:13] <Roz> any changes or additions to the prayer list?
[22:14] <Roz> symbology always makes the material so rich ....like dreams
[22:15] <Roz> do you find it helpful to have it decoded?
[22:15] <ron1> Yes roz...
[22:15] <Cris>
02I do because you see it a little differently than I would
[22:15]
5<Roz> oh tell me Cris
[22:15] <Cris>
02It helps me to see another side
[22:16] <Roz> any time please feel free to disagree or add to
[22:16] <Cris>
02It's fuller with your explanation
[22:16]
5<Roz> Almighty God, Creator, Sustainer… Use our focus for the healing in Mind, Body, & Spirit. We are ever mindful that Thou art the Healer: The A.R.E., Members Of The Study, Those who have lost loved ones, Ken and Cris Glass, Patrick Meredith, Wanda’s Mom & Friend, Tess, Jan, Foxy Di, Melinda’s Father (who died recently), Melinda’s Brother & Sister, Stephanie Herron, Lurlean Long, Retha Smith, Michel, Lynn, Our World Leaders, O
[22:16] <Roz> Amen
[22:16] <Cris>
02Amen
[22:17] <ron1> amen
[22:17] <Roz> Love And Light
[22:17] <Roz> anything you'd like to discuss
[22:17] <Cris>
02Blessings Roz
[22:18] <Cris>
02This is a lot to digest
[22:18] <Cris>
02I appreciate the work you did for this chat
[22:18] <ron1> Much to remember, yes
[22:18] <Roz> I totally agree