Post by WalksInSpirit on Aug 5, 2007 22:04:53 GMT -5
Revelations Study: 08-05-07
(08:58:09) (~AutoGreeter) Good Evening. Welcome to A Study On Revelations - Hosted By Roz. Please feel free to comment or ask questions at any time.
(09:26:05) (Roz) lets center
(09:26:34) (Roz) Lets center, deep breath, and exhale Allow the Presence of God to take your awareness, sense the Presence of God - feel the Peace that passes all understanding. Allow your mind and heart to resonate to these feelings. Almighty God Guide and direct our study, Allow Your words to imprint on our hearts and minds. By Your Grace let us nurture and uphold each other.
(09:26:42) (Roz) Amen
(09:26:43) (Cris) Amen
(09:26:48) (Raleigh) Amen
(09:26:50) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:27:01) (Lynn) Amen
(09:27:20) (Roz) we will continue with chapter 2 where we left off last wk
(09:27:26) (MarkH) Amen
(09:27:36) (Roz) please feel free to interject or comment at any time
(09:28:42) (Roz) 25. BUT HOLD FAST TO THAT WHICH YOU ALREADY HAVE TIL I COME.
(09:29:16) (Roz) 26. AND HE WHO OVERCOMES AND KEEPS MY WORKS UNTIL THE END, TO HIM I WILL GIVE AUTHORITY OVER THE NATIONS;
(09:29:52) (Roz) He who over comes his self-serving nature and keeps my works until the end, I will give ruler ship over physical, mental and spiritual forces.
(09:30:24) (Roz) 27. AND HE SHALL SHEPHERD THEM WITH A ROD OF IRON; LIKE THE VESSELS OF THE POTTER, THEY SHALL BE SHATTERED, EVEN AS I WAS DISCIPLINED BY MY FATHER,
(09:31:03) (Roz) He shall govern with strength; like clay vessels , all ungodly habit patterns and concepts shall be broken up.
(09:31:48) (Roz) 28. AND I WILL GIVE HIM THE MORNING STAR.
(09:32:18) (Roz) I will give enlightenment and direction for new growth.
(09:32:56) (Roz) 29. HE WHO HAS EARS, LET H1M HEAR WHAT THE SPIRIT SAYS TO THE CHURCHES.
(09:33:25) (Roz) He who wants to pay attention can understand.
(09:33:31) (Raleigh) :)
(09:34:01) (Roz) This chapter gives the identity, activity and promises of the speaker;
(09:34:35) (Roz) HE IS THE ONNIPOTENT ONE WHO HOLDS THE SEVEN STARS, AND WALKS IN THE MIDST OF THE SEVEN CANDLESTICKS.
(09:35:12) (Roz) He is the all powerful one who controls the celestial guidance and directs the seven sources of enlightenment.
(09:35:43) (Roz) HE IS THE SON OF GOD
(09:36:14) (Roz) He is the first of the created from whom all earth forms were patterned.
(09:36:44) (Roz) HE IS THE FIRST AND THE LAST WHO WAS DEAD AND IS ALIVE.
(09:37:17) (Roz) HE is the first creation and the last who perfected the physical, mental, and spiritual bodies. He was crucified and arose from the grave.
(09:37:53) (Roz) His activities;
(09:38:23) (Roz) He knows your works, love, labour, service, and patience. He searches minds and hearts
(09:39:30) (Roz) He hates the Nicolaitanes.
(09:40:03) (Roz) He knows the blasphemy of those who say they say they are Jews and are not. He knows where you dwell.
(09:40:25) (Roz) Jews meaning spiritual people
(09:40:32) (Lynn) Roz, who are the Nicolatitanes?
(09:40:38) (Raleigh) we are all isreal
(09:41:52) (Roz) those who would push people into activities beyond their growth and cause retardation
(09:42:15) (Lynn) fascinating concept, much depth, I shall pursue the understanding of that
(09:42:16) (Roz) i.e. yoga breathing or mediumship
(09:42:25) (Raleigh) hmmm
(09:42:42) (Raleigh) interesting roz /
(09:42:44) (Lynn) If its beyond their growth?
(09:43:39) (Roz) yes they have not yet come to that step in growth
(09:43:46) (Raleigh) he who enters without preperation hurts his soul
(09:43:59) (Lynn) I see. Like forcing babes on milk to eat meat. Like Paul said
(09:44:49) (Roz) and he who climbs up any other way does it at his peril
(09:44:53) (Roz) His promises;
(09:45:05) (Raleigh) cayce also said make haste - slowly
(09:45:07) (Raleigh) :)
(09:45:12) (Lynn) thank you, Roz
(09:45:39) (Roz) He will remove your candlestick unless you repent. He will give to eat of the tree of life.
(09:46:26) (Roz) exackle Ral intergrate the growth into your practice
(09:46:44) (Raleigh) repent but then dont do it again / best as you are able /
(09:47:13) (Roz) yup
(09:47:18) (Roz) He will give the crown of life
(09:47:21) (Raleigh) yes roz / its like learning to walk and talk too / meditation is
(09:47:58) (Roz) You shall not be hurt by the second death. He will come to you very soon.
(09:48:46) (Roz) He will fight against them with the sword of his mouth. He will give to eat of the hidden manna.
(09:49:24) (Roz) He will give a white stone.
(09:50:00) (Roz) He will cast into a sick bed. He will smite her children with death. He will give authority over the nations. He shall shepherd with a rod of iron. He will give the morning star.
(09:50:25) (Roz) questions?
(09:50:34) (Raleigh) hundreds
(09:50:36) (Raleigh) :)
(09:50:48) (Lynn) Thy rod and thy staff of the 23rd psalm becomes a rod of iron?
(09:50:54) (Raleigh) please continue roz / :)
(09:51:16) (Raleigh) the rod and staff refer to meditation
(09:51:27) (Lynn) shepherd with a rod of iron?
(09:51:33) (Raleigh) the staff is the path the energy takes
(09:51:38) (Raleigh) the shape
(09:51:49) (Roz) or the the cadesus which is the 7 chakras lifted up
(09:52:00) (Lynn) Why does it b ecome a rod of iron?
(09:52:03) (Roz) 1. AND TO THE ANGEL OF THE CHURCH IN SARDIS WRITE: THESE THINGS SAYS HE WHO HAS SEVEN SPIRITS FO GOD AND THE SEVEN STARS; KNOW YOUR WORKS; AND YOU HAVE A NAME THAT YOU ARE ALIVE AND YET YOU ARE DEAD
(09:52:56) (Roz) rod of iron in strentgh
(09:53:03) (Roz) The seven Spirits of God are activating principles of God in man. Seven stars are the influences and elements of change. You have an identity of which you are not yet aware.
(09:53:12) (Lynn) ty
(09:53:47) (Roz) 2. AWAKE AND HOLD FAST TO THE THINGS WHICH REMAIN BUT ARE READY TO DIE, FOR I HAVE NOT FOUND YOUR WORKS PERFECT BEFORE MY GOD.
(09:54:28) (Roz) Pay attention to the best you know lest you lose that which you have.
(09:55:10) (Roz) 3. REMEMBER, THEREFORE, JUST AS YOU HAVE RECEIVED AND HEARD, SO HOLD FAST AND REPENT. AND IF, THERFORE, YOU DO NOT AWAKE, I WILL COME AGAINST YOU AS A THIEF, AND YOU SHALL NOT KNOW AT WHAT HOUR I WILL COME UPON YOU.
(09:55:51) (Roz) If you do not pay attention to the best you know, you will lose the concept and never know you lost it, nor recognize the Christness in self or others.
(09:56:31) (Roz) 4. BUT YOU HAVE A FEW MEMBERS AT SARDIS ,WHO HAVE NOT DEFILED THEIR NAMES; AND THEY SHALL WALK WITH ME IN WHITE, FOR THEY ARE WORTHY.
(09:57:10) (Roz) The portions of self which have not defiled their identity as creations of God will function in purity "walk with me in white," for they are yet able to do so.
(09:58:14) (Roz) 5.HE WHO DOES OVER COME THE SAME SHALL BE CLOTHED IN WHITE ROBES; ANED I WILL NOT BLOT HIS NAME OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, BUT WILL CONFESS HIS NAME BEFORE MY FATHER AND BEFORE HIS ANGELS
(09:58:56) (Roz) There are portions of consciousness that enable us to participate in the kingdom of God.
(09:59:14) (Lynn) Roz, it sounds to me like it´s not a matter of God judging or allowing, it´s a matter of what we are ABLE to do.......worthy
(09:59:43) (Raleigh) its the try that counts cayce said
(09:59:50) (Raleigh) script as well//
(09:59:57) (Roz) exackle Lynn
(10:00:04) (Roz) 6. HE WHO HAS EARS LET HIM HEAR WHAT THE SPIRIT SAYS TO THE CHURCHES
(10:01:02) (Roz) 7. AND TO THE ANGEL OF THE CHURCH IN PHILADELPHIA WRITE; THESE THINGS SAY HE WHO IS THE HOLY ONE, HE WHO IS TRUE, HE HAS THE KEY OF DAVID, HE WHO OPENS AND NO MAN SHUTS AND SHUTS AND NO MAN OPENS
(10:01:47) (Roz) This spiritual center is the Christ center those door is always open no matter how low the consciousness.
(10:02:19) (Raleigh) hmmm
(10:02:28) (Raleigh) what center is that roz?
(10:02:51) (Roz) the Pineal which is the Christ Center
(10:02:55) (Raleigh) k
(10:03:03) (Roz) 8. I KNOW YOUR WORKS AND BEHOLD, I HAVE SET BEFORE YOU AN OPEN DOOR WHICH NO MAN CAN LOCK, FOR YOU HAVE LITTLE STRENGHT AND YET YOU HAVE OBEYED MY WORD AND HAVE NOT DENIED MY NAME.
(10:03:49) (Roz) The open door is this portion of the body through which God can always move ,no matter what conditioning man has done to the mind and body. There is yet this undefiled portion, the seat of the soul, that knows the true identity.
(10:04:44) (Roz) we will stop there for tonite
(10:05:26) (Roz) as we go about perfecting our Christ Center
(10:05:36) (Raleigh) :)
(10:05:39) (Roz) questions?
(10:06:03) (WalksInSpirit) Roz, thank you! This is an awesome study!
(10:06:13) (Cris) I appreciate this material
(10:06:21) (WalksInSpirit) I do too!
(10:06:27) (Roz) we have the advocate who stands ever ready to aid us
(10:06:38) (Raleigh) i cant geet enough either roz
(10:07:02) (Raleigh) its sweet in my mouth but - well you know huh?
(10:07:02) (Roz) glad yu are liking the study
(10:07:04) (Lynn) This sounds like all we go through while here, in this life, we go through to "work out", gain strength, so that we become ABLE to walk in white with him. Interesting to me. I better keep working out in God´s exercise room. LOL
(10:07:30) (Raleigh) practice practice practice huh roz?
(10:07:36) (Roz) yes and becomes sweeter all the time Ral
(10:08:08) (Roz) yes yu can have al the knowledge and wisdom you will use
(10:08:27) (Lynn) That turns every "trial" into a praise session, that we are ABLE to work out and get strong for the glory yet to come.
(10:08:42) (Raleigh) knowledge gained is worse that useless /
(10:08:52) (Roz) and become a Christ Light into the earth
(10:08:56) (Raleigh) time i get busy i spoze
(10:08:56) (Raleigh) :)
(10:09:08) (Roz) yu hve an eternity Ral
(10:09:10) (Raleigh) very nice study / ty roz
(10:09:32) (Lynn) Roz, your study always gives me so much to think about and use. Thank You
(10:10:06) (Roz) teach learns most Lynn
(10:13:35) (Roz) open chat
(10:14:08) (Roz) Thanks all for coming and being such a great group
(10:14:15) (Cris) Thanks for having us
(10:14:55) (WalksInSpirit) Thank you for another great chat, Roz!
(10:16:38) (Roz) you are so welcome Wis
(09:26:05) (Roz) lets center
(09:26:34) (Roz) Lets center, deep breath, and exhale Allow the Presence of God to take your awareness, sense the Presence of God - feel the Peace that passes all understanding. Allow your mind and heart to resonate to these feelings. Almighty God Guide and direct our study, Allow Your words to imprint on our hearts and minds. By Your Grace let us nurture and uphold each other.
(09:26:42) (Roz) Amen
(09:26:43) (Cris) Amen
(09:26:48) (Raleigh) Amen
(09:26:50) (WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:27:01) (Lynn) Amen
(09:27:20) (Roz) we will continue with chapter 2 where we left off last wk
(09:27:26) (MarkH) Amen
(09:27:36) (Roz) please feel free to interject or comment at any time
(09:28:42) (Roz) 25. BUT HOLD FAST TO THAT WHICH YOU ALREADY HAVE TIL I COME.
(09:29:16) (Roz) 26. AND HE WHO OVERCOMES AND KEEPS MY WORKS UNTIL THE END, TO HIM I WILL GIVE AUTHORITY OVER THE NATIONS;
(09:29:52) (Roz) He who over comes his self-serving nature and keeps my works until the end, I will give ruler ship over physical, mental and spiritual forces.
(09:30:24) (Roz) 27. AND HE SHALL SHEPHERD THEM WITH A ROD OF IRON; LIKE THE VESSELS OF THE POTTER, THEY SHALL BE SHATTERED, EVEN AS I WAS DISCIPLINED BY MY FATHER,
(09:31:03) (Roz) He shall govern with strength; like clay vessels , all ungodly habit patterns and concepts shall be broken up.
(09:31:48) (Roz) 28. AND I WILL GIVE HIM THE MORNING STAR.
(09:32:18) (Roz) I will give enlightenment and direction for new growth.
(09:32:56) (Roz) 29. HE WHO HAS EARS, LET H1M HEAR WHAT THE SPIRIT SAYS TO THE CHURCHES.
(09:33:25) (Roz) He who wants to pay attention can understand.
(09:33:31) (Raleigh) :)
(09:34:01) (Roz) This chapter gives the identity, activity and promises of the speaker;
(09:34:35) (Roz) HE IS THE ONNIPOTENT ONE WHO HOLDS THE SEVEN STARS, AND WALKS IN THE MIDST OF THE SEVEN CANDLESTICKS.
(09:35:12) (Roz) He is the all powerful one who controls the celestial guidance and directs the seven sources of enlightenment.
(09:35:43) (Roz) HE IS THE SON OF GOD
(09:36:14) (Roz) He is the first of the created from whom all earth forms were patterned.
(09:36:44) (Roz) HE IS THE FIRST AND THE LAST WHO WAS DEAD AND IS ALIVE.
(09:37:17) (Roz) HE is the first creation and the last who perfected the physical, mental, and spiritual bodies. He was crucified and arose from the grave.
(09:37:53) (Roz) His activities;
(09:38:23) (Roz) He knows your works, love, labour, service, and patience. He searches minds and hearts
(09:39:30) (Roz) He hates the Nicolaitanes.
(09:40:03) (Roz) He knows the blasphemy of those who say they say they are Jews and are not. He knows where you dwell.
(09:40:25) (Roz) Jews meaning spiritual people
(09:40:32) (Lynn) Roz, who are the Nicolatitanes?
(09:40:38) (Raleigh) we are all isreal
(09:41:52) (Roz) those who would push people into activities beyond their growth and cause retardation
(09:42:15) (Lynn) fascinating concept, much depth, I shall pursue the understanding of that
(09:42:16) (Roz) i.e. yoga breathing or mediumship
(09:42:25) (Raleigh) hmmm
(09:42:42) (Raleigh) interesting roz /
(09:42:44) (Lynn) If its beyond their growth?
(09:43:39) (Roz) yes they have not yet come to that step in growth
(09:43:46) (Raleigh) he who enters without preperation hurts his soul
(09:43:59) (Lynn) I see. Like forcing babes on milk to eat meat. Like Paul said
(09:44:49) (Roz) and he who climbs up any other way does it at his peril
(09:44:53) (Roz) His promises;
(09:45:05) (Raleigh) cayce also said make haste - slowly
(09:45:07) (Raleigh) :)
(09:45:12) (Lynn) thank you, Roz
(09:45:39) (Roz) He will remove your candlestick unless you repent. He will give to eat of the tree of life.
(09:46:26) (Roz) exackle Ral intergrate the growth into your practice
(09:46:44) (Raleigh) repent but then dont do it again / best as you are able /
(09:47:13) (Roz) yup
(09:47:18) (Roz) He will give the crown of life
(09:47:21) (Raleigh) yes roz / its like learning to walk and talk too / meditation is
(09:47:58) (Roz) You shall not be hurt by the second death. He will come to you very soon.
(09:48:46) (Roz) He will fight against them with the sword of his mouth. He will give to eat of the hidden manna.
(09:49:24) (Roz) He will give a white stone.
(09:50:00) (Roz) He will cast into a sick bed. He will smite her children with death. He will give authority over the nations. He shall shepherd with a rod of iron. He will give the morning star.
(09:50:25) (Roz) questions?
(09:50:34) (Raleigh) hundreds
(09:50:36) (Raleigh) :)
(09:50:48) (Lynn) Thy rod and thy staff of the 23rd psalm becomes a rod of iron?
(09:50:54) (Raleigh) please continue roz / :)
(09:51:16) (Raleigh) the rod and staff refer to meditation
(09:51:27) (Lynn) shepherd with a rod of iron?
(09:51:33) (Raleigh) the staff is the path the energy takes
(09:51:38) (Raleigh) the shape
(09:51:49) (Roz) or the the cadesus which is the 7 chakras lifted up
(09:52:00) (Lynn) Why does it b ecome a rod of iron?
(09:52:03) (Roz) 1. AND TO THE ANGEL OF THE CHURCH IN SARDIS WRITE: THESE THINGS SAYS HE WHO HAS SEVEN SPIRITS FO GOD AND THE SEVEN STARS; KNOW YOUR WORKS; AND YOU HAVE A NAME THAT YOU ARE ALIVE AND YET YOU ARE DEAD
(09:52:56) (Roz) rod of iron in strentgh
(09:53:03) (Roz) The seven Spirits of God are activating principles of God in man. Seven stars are the influences and elements of change. You have an identity of which you are not yet aware.
(09:53:12) (Lynn) ty
(09:53:47) (Roz) 2. AWAKE AND HOLD FAST TO THE THINGS WHICH REMAIN BUT ARE READY TO DIE, FOR I HAVE NOT FOUND YOUR WORKS PERFECT BEFORE MY GOD.
(09:54:28) (Roz) Pay attention to the best you know lest you lose that which you have.
(09:55:10) (Roz) 3. REMEMBER, THEREFORE, JUST AS YOU HAVE RECEIVED AND HEARD, SO HOLD FAST AND REPENT. AND IF, THERFORE, YOU DO NOT AWAKE, I WILL COME AGAINST YOU AS A THIEF, AND YOU SHALL NOT KNOW AT WHAT HOUR I WILL COME UPON YOU.
(09:55:51) (Roz) If you do not pay attention to the best you know, you will lose the concept and never know you lost it, nor recognize the Christness in self or others.
(09:56:31) (Roz) 4. BUT YOU HAVE A FEW MEMBERS AT SARDIS ,WHO HAVE NOT DEFILED THEIR NAMES; AND THEY SHALL WALK WITH ME IN WHITE, FOR THEY ARE WORTHY.
(09:57:10) (Roz) The portions of self which have not defiled their identity as creations of God will function in purity "walk with me in white," for they are yet able to do so.
(09:58:14) (Roz) 5.HE WHO DOES OVER COME THE SAME SHALL BE CLOTHED IN WHITE ROBES; ANED I WILL NOT BLOT HIS NAME OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, BUT WILL CONFESS HIS NAME BEFORE MY FATHER AND BEFORE HIS ANGELS
(09:58:56) (Roz) There are portions of consciousness that enable us to participate in the kingdom of God.
(09:59:14) (Lynn) Roz, it sounds to me like it´s not a matter of God judging or allowing, it´s a matter of what we are ABLE to do.......worthy
(09:59:43) (Raleigh) its the try that counts cayce said
(09:59:50) (Raleigh) script as well//
(09:59:57) (Roz) exackle Lynn
(10:00:04) (Roz) 6. HE WHO HAS EARS LET HIM HEAR WHAT THE SPIRIT SAYS TO THE CHURCHES
(10:01:02) (Roz) 7. AND TO THE ANGEL OF THE CHURCH IN PHILADELPHIA WRITE; THESE THINGS SAY HE WHO IS THE HOLY ONE, HE WHO IS TRUE, HE HAS THE KEY OF DAVID, HE WHO OPENS AND NO MAN SHUTS AND SHUTS AND NO MAN OPENS
(10:01:47) (Roz) This spiritual center is the Christ center those door is always open no matter how low the consciousness.
(10:02:19) (Raleigh) hmmm
(10:02:28) (Raleigh) what center is that roz?
(10:02:51) (Roz) the Pineal which is the Christ Center
(10:02:55) (Raleigh) k
(10:03:03) (Roz) 8. I KNOW YOUR WORKS AND BEHOLD, I HAVE SET BEFORE YOU AN OPEN DOOR WHICH NO MAN CAN LOCK, FOR YOU HAVE LITTLE STRENGHT AND YET YOU HAVE OBEYED MY WORD AND HAVE NOT DENIED MY NAME.
(10:03:49) (Roz) The open door is this portion of the body through which God can always move ,no matter what conditioning man has done to the mind and body. There is yet this undefiled portion, the seat of the soul, that knows the true identity.
(10:04:44) (Roz) we will stop there for tonite
(10:05:26) (Roz) as we go about perfecting our Christ Center
(10:05:36) (Raleigh) :)
(10:05:39) (Roz) questions?
(10:06:03) (WalksInSpirit) Roz, thank you! This is an awesome study!
(10:06:13) (Cris) I appreciate this material
(10:06:21) (WalksInSpirit) I do too!
(10:06:27) (Roz) we have the advocate who stands ever ready to aid us
(10:06:38) (Raleigh) i cant geet enough either roz
(10:07:02) (Raleigh) its sweet in my mouth but - well you know huh?
(10:07:02) (Roz) glad yu are liking the study
(10:07:04) (Lynn) This sounds like all we go through while here, in this life, we go through to "work out", gain strength, so that we become ABLE to walk in white with him. Interesting to me. I better keep working out in God´s exercise room. LOL
(10:07:30) (Raleigh) practice practice practice huh roz?
(10:07:36) (Roz) yes and becomes sweeter all the time Ral
(10:08:08) (Roz) yes yu can have al the knowledge and wisdom you will use
(10:08:27) (Lynn) That turns every "trial" into a praise session, that we are ABLE to work out and get strong for the glory yet to come.
(10:08:42) (Raleigh) knowledge gained is worse that useless /
(10:08:52) (Roz) and become a Christ Light into the earth
(10:08:56) (Raleigh) time i get busy i spoze
(10:08:56) (Raleigh) :)
(10:09:08) (Roz) yu hve an eternity Ral
(10:09:10) (Raleigh) very nice study / ty roz
(10:09:32) (Lynn) Roz, your study always gives me so much to think about and use. Thank You
(10:10:06) (Roz) teach learns most Lynn
(10:13:35) (Roz) open chat
(10:14:08) (Roz) Thanks all for coming and being such a great group
(10:14:15) (Cris) Thanks for having us
(10:14:55) (WalksInSpirit) Thank you for another great chat, Roz!
(10:16:38) (Roz) you are so welcome Wis