Post by WalksInSpirit on Apr 5, 2007 22:31:14 GMT -5
Thursday Night Thoughts On Cayce: 04-05-07
(09:31:42) (~AutoGreeter) The Red Path Chat Room welcomes you to Thursday Night Thoughts On Cayce Chat. Tonight's Host is: Cris.
(09:33:08) (Cris) Tonight is a reading on the Last Supper I thought that the timing was right to present it
(09:33:25) (Cris) After we can all share out thoughts
(09:33:42) (Cris) Edgar Cayce on Jesus
(09:33:53) (Cris) Topic: The Last Supper
(09:34:08) (Cris) TEXT OF READING 5749-1
(09:34:35) (Cris) Thse present include: Edgar Cayce; Gertrude Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno. Mildred Davis and Hugh Lynn Cayce.
(09:34:45) (Cris) Time of Reading 11:30 A. M.
(09:35:00) (Cris) 1. EC: The Lord's Supper - here with the Master - see what they had for supper - boiled fish, rice, with leeks, wine, and loaf. One of the pitchers in which it was served was broken - the handle was broken, as was the lip to same.
(09:35:32) (Cris) 2. The whole robe of the Master was not white, but pearl gray - all combined into one - the gift of Nicodemus to the Lord.
(09:35:58) (Cris) 3. The better looking of the twelve, of course, was Judas, while the younger was John - oval face, dark hair, smooth face - only one with the short hair. Peter, the rough and ready - always that of very short beard, rough, and not altogether clean; while Andrew's is just the opposite - very sparse, but inclined to be long more on the side and under the chin - long on the upper lip - his robe was always near gray or black, while his clouts or breeches were striped; while those of Philip and Bartholomew were red and brown.
(09:36:33) (Cris) 4. The Master's hair is 'most red, inclined to be curly in portions, yet not feminine or weak - STRONG, with heavy piercing eyes that are blue or steel-gray.
(09:36:48) (Cris) 5. His weight would be at least a hundred and seventy pounds. Long tapering fingers, nails well kept. Long nail, though, on the left little finger.
(09:38:23) (Cris) 6. Merry - even in the hour of trial. Joke - even in the moment of betrayal.
(09:38:33) (Cris) 7. The sack is empty. Judas departs.
(09:38:49) (Cris) 8. The last is given of the wine and loaf, with which He gives the emblems that should be so dear to every follower of Him. Lays aside His robe, which is all of one piece - girds the towel about His waist, which is dressed with linen that is blue and white. Rolls back the folds, kneels first before John, James, then to Peter - who refuses.
(09:39:21) (Cris) 9. Then the dissertation as to 'He that would be the greatest would be servant of all.'
(09:39:36) (Cris) 10. The basin is taken as without handle, and is made of wood. The water is from the gherkins [gourds], that are in the wide-mouth Shibboleths [streams? Judges 12:6], that stand in the house of John's father, Zebedee.
(09:40:06) (Cris) 11. And now comes "It is finished."
(09:40:22) (Cris) 12. They sing the ninety-first Psalm - "He that dwelleth in the secret place of the Most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in Him will I trust."
(09:40:36) (Cris) 13. He is the musician as well, for He uses the harp.
(09:40:46) (Cris) 14. They leave for the garden.
(09:42:14) (Cris) End of reading. This was EC's account of the Last Supper through the years there has been many scholastic arguments over exactly how this meal happened
(09:42:32) (Roz) wonderful Cris
(09:43:07) (merri) you mean what took place at the meal, Cris?
(09:43:27) (Cris) What took place, who was present and what was eaten
(09:43:47) (Cris) In the Bibe I read it never mentioned the simple fare or the broken pitcher
(09:44:32) (Cris) It was a good look into the past not only at the meal but what people wore
(09:44:52) (~Blu) It has always fascinated me that he had that one nail long
(09:44:55) (Cris) How does this account vary for each of you?
(09:45:42) (merri) it is more detailed then any account I have read
(09:45:56) (Roz) me too
(09:45:57) (~WalksInSpirit) I think this is a great account. I mean, you can just see it happening.
(09:45:59) (~Blu) Yes, makes it more personal
(09:46:10) (@gg) Was there ever a mention anywhere else in the Bible or Cayce readings about that long nail and what it signified?
(09:46:21) (Cris) Not that I recall
(09:46:47) (~Blu) I wonder if it had to do with the harp?
(09:46:51) (@gg) I never knew that He played the harp either. Is this the only place it is mentioned?
(09:47:14) (~Blu) I don't know Lory, but I knew he played it
(09:47:28) (@gg) Cayce simplified the story but yet it is, indeed, detailed.
(09:47:31) (Roz) I had never heard tha before
(09:47:35) (~Blu) I must have gotten it from the readings
(09:47:47) (merri) In Egypt the pharoh's had a long pinky nail which signified their status
(09:48:02) (~Blu) hmmm and he studied in Eygpt
(09:48:09) (Cris) In one account I once read it said Jesus was musical and danced very well
(09:48:19) (Roz) to clean out their ears?
(09:48:27) (~Blu) yes he was a very handsome man by all accounts
(09:48:55) (Cris) Essenese we accomplised in the arts so that makes sense
(09:49:06) (ron) if one counts down, considering the little finger as of little use on the material plane...and the possiblity of 2 missing fingers as what does not function on the earth plane, it would be the 3rd finger from the highestest of symbols of the 7 centers...thus a symbol of the Holy Spirit
(09:49:34) (Cris) Good point Ron
(09:50:16) (ron) but, since it is on the left hand, that makes my thought sound somewhat unacceptable to me
(09:50:25) (merri) 2 missing fingers?
(09:50:58) (@gg) Another comment. I always thought the robe was red, not pearl gray. Is Cayce's reading on this the only reference to the pearl gray color?
(09:50:59) (Cris) I never heard that Jesus had missing fingers but fishermen of old often lost fingers hauling in the nets
(09:51:02) (ron) the 2 missing fingers as symbols of 2 centers unseend...the pituitary and the pineal
(09:51:09) (ron) unseen*
(09:51:26) (ron) such as the thumb being the lowest center
(09:51:35) (ron) symbolic of the gonadic
(09:51:39) (Cris) This robe was given to him by Nicodemus
(09:51:44) (ron) or very earthly
(09:51:57) (ron) and very necessary
(09:52:18) (ron) sorry for that strange thoughtful pursuit
(09:52:58) (merri) what made you think red, Lorry
(09:53:05) (Cris) The clothes were pretty detailed
(09:53:24) (ron) what does catch my attention from this readding is....laughter, even at the moment of betrayal
(09:53:27) (@gg) But this robe must have been the one he was wearing at the time of His crucifixion since he had it on. Stories I've read such as The Robe, were always red.
(09:53:47) (merri) I don't remember seeing red in any pictures
(09:54:15) (@gg) The book, "The Robe" had the robe as red.
(09:54:25) (@gg) And the movie showed it as red.
(09:54:27) (Cris) Maybe they were remembering the blood on the robe
(09:54:52) (@gg) Where is the scripture about the color of the robe? Anyone know?
(09:55:11) (Cris) The red of the blood made the bible texts so that color was repeated not the stain on the fabric
(09:55:46) (Cris) not as the stain on the fabric of a different color
(09:55:56) (ron) red, the earth, underneath white, the spirit
(09:57:20) (Cris) Those texts have been translated many times and the people writing about the event didn't do it immediately our memory fades with time
(09:57:22) (@gg) Was the robe also placed on His body in the grave?
(09:57:36) (Cris) mary redressed his body
(09:57:37) (merri) in the painting of "The Last Supper" is the robe white or red?
(09:57:51) (~Blu) According to the Gospel of John, the soldiers who crucified Jesus did not divide his tunic after crucifying him, but cast lots to determine who would keep it because it was woven in one piece, without seam.
(09:57:59) (@gg) I do not know, Merri.
(09:58:10) (~Blu) The tradition of the Roman Catholic Church holds that the robe is now housed in the Cathedral of Trier, Germany. The historical record supporting the identification of this relic as genuine is not proven.
(09:58:22) (Cris) It might have been painted in the style of the time for what a person might have worn
(09:58:50) (merri) does it say what color Blu?
(09:59:03) (Cris) The painters didn't have an eye witness to query
(09:59:10) (ron) a white robe, with a something red thrown over the shoulder, i believe
(09:59:50) (@gg) Perhaps, then, it was that something thrown over the shoulder was what The Robe author was referring.
(10:00:39) (@gg) I have it in my mind that His mother, Mary made it. Don't know why.
(10:00:42) (Cris) White could have come from an ancient translation of light - pearl gray would have been a light colored fabric
(10:00:42) (~Blu) it has a picture and I sent it to all of you
(10:00:49) (~Blu) in the picture it looks gray
(10:01:36) (merri) what was the ritual He was performing when kneeling before the disciples
(10:01:43) (Cris) Word useage varies from generation to generation
(10:01:45) (~Blu) washing thier feet
(10:02:01) (merri) and why did Peter refuse
(10:02:03) (@gg) But Peter refused to have his feet washed. I wonder why?
(10:02:20) (~Blu) LOL, becasue he was the master
(10:02:46) (@gg) But the Master asked permission.
(10:02:58) (~Blu) Peter was to lowly to be honored this way
(10:03:04) (Cris) He was also the unkempt one
(10:03:05) (Roz) because he didnt feel worthy to have Jesus wash his feet
(10:03:06) (ron) the teacher was humiliating himself, i think
(10:03:07) (~Blu) in his way of thinking
(10:03:39) (Roz) bet not ron He said the greatest of all is the servant of all
(10:03:50) (Cris) Some people see no need for rituals today and that was probably true in the time of Jesus
(10:03:51) (~Blu) It was a custon to wash the feet of guests or provide a bowl of water for this
(10:04:29) (~Blu) they all wore sandals to if a guest came to your house you offered them water to wash with
(10:05:08) (merri) and it was pretty dusty times then without paved roads
(10:05:11) (Cris) It kept the floors cleaner too because less dust was tracked in
(10:05:21) (ron) perhps, i should have said, it was not the work of a master to do something so lowly
(10:05:28) (~Blu) however, this was after the supper was it not?
(10:05:45) (ron) thus, a symbol of the eternal servant
(10:06:21) (Cris) I am getting a page so I have to go. Blessings all
(10:06:32) (merri) TY Cris
(10:06:33) (Cris) Hope you enjoyed the reading
(10:06:39) (~Blu) Blessing and thanks Cris
(10:07:00) (Roz) gave his life that was pretty lowly?
(10:07:21) (ron) humility...what did the readings speak in this regard?
(10:07:33) (ron) humility or humbleness
(10:08:32) (merri) being humble, showing humility is keeping the ego aside
(10:08:33) (ron) regarding the symbol of the washing of the feet
(10:09:14) (Roz) or the mark of a good host?
(10:09:45) (~Blu) or symbolic of atonement
(10:10:09) (~WalksInSpirit) Ron, I am still back there tryin to figure out... did you mean Jesus may have had two missing fingers?
(10:11:48) (ron) no
(10:11:49) (merri) isn't cleansing part of the process before meeting the Holy Spirit
(10:11:56) (~WalksInSpirit) Ok
(10:12:12) (~WalksInSpirit) Cause the Reading said:
(10:12:15) (~WalksInSpirit) (09:36:48) (Cris) 5. His weight would be at least a hundred and seventy pounds. Long tapering fingers, nails well kept. Long nail, though, on the left little finger.
(10:12:25) (~WalksInSpirit) "fingers"
(10:12:29) (ron) i was taking the 7 centers and referencing them to the 5 fingers...the 2 highest being invisible
(10:13:00) (~WalksInSpirit) Ok, I didn't understand that.
(10:13:24) (ron) for all of us...the spirit side of life, being the invisibile aspect
(10:13:29) (Roz) I dont ron splain to me
(10:13:57) (Roz) what has fingers to do w/the centers?
(10:14:14) (ron) symbols of the invisible side of life the 2 centers...the father and the son...
(10:14:33) (ron) try not to misunderestand the symbolism
(10:14:39) (ron) that i'm using
(10:15:18) (ron) do i have to apoligize?
(10:15:27) (~Blu) no ron
(10:15:30) (~Blu) LOL
(10:15:52) (~WalksInSpirit) I dunno, Ron! Did you hurt somebody's feelins or offend them?
(10:16:14) (ron) it seems that everyone is getting after me
(10:16:30) (~WalksInSpirit) Ron, I was just tryin to understand what you said.
(10:16:32) (@gg) No, he didn't WAlks. He is just being sensitive. And we love him that way.
(10:16:37) (ron) i was just drawing on symbolic meanings
(10:16:38) (~Blu) naw Ron, just questions
(10:16:57) (~WalksInSpirit) I apologize for not understanding you.
(10:17:19) (ron) i don't know
(10:17:34) (shelley) not me ron-i think you're just great!!! keeep up the good work
(10:17:44) (~Blu) right
(10:18:53) (shelley) i would like to apologize for being late, and to anyone whom i may have offended.
(10:18:58) (~Blu) Can you imagine if someone tried to wash your feet?
(10:18:59) (ron) these thoughts i have regarding the 5 fingers, the 5 centers, the 5 senses, are my own
(10:19:40) (~Blu) Of course taking it out ot the context of the culture is hard
(10:19:53) (~Blu) wonder what would be comparable today?
(10:19:56) (ron) shelley, thank you for such a nice compliment
(10:20:21) (shelley) you are wlecome ( is the check in the mail) ha ha ha just joking
(10:20:31) (~Blu) LOL
(10:20:34) (ron) of course :)
(10:20:37) (shelley) i have bad sense of humor
(10:20:41) (@gg) OK the, ron. Let's have a dissertation about this. I can see where your reference makes sense, and yet we have ten fingers and ten toes. Don't the rest of them count for something? LOL
(10:20:42) (~Blu) cash on the barrel head, love to see that!
(10:20:45) (shelley) i apologize once again
(10:21:04) (~Blu) ah shelley...it's no biggie
(10:21:25) (shelley) maybe i need practice in apologizing
(10:21:31) (~Blu) we have 5 physical sensees
(10:21:32) (ron) ok GG
(10:21:35) (~Blu) not 10
(10:21:40) (~Blu) LOL
(10:22:00) (~Blu) ok, well you should practice being offensive first then practice apologizing
(10:22:02) (ron) you have 2 sets of symbols which have a connection to my basic meaning,...but
(10:22:32) (ron) one set is on the right side of the body, and the other set is on the left side of the body...so
(10:23:10) (ron) feet might be your path in life, your hands, is your application in life
(10:23:13) (ron) so...
(10:23:20) (~WalksInSpirit) Ron, I realize this is your own thoughts. That is why I was asking for clarification, because I was not understanding you. And I apologize again for questioning you. Won't happen again!
(10:23:46) (ron) the left always refers to misapplication...and the right is proper application
(10:23:53) (ron) or, what you do in life is
(10:24:00) (ron) that you have a choice...
(10:24:04) (~Blu) ok, now I see ron
(10:24:12) (ron) to either to do what is right or what is wrong!!!
(10:24:17) (shelley) i'm glad you asked the questions Walks, cause i was wondering also-it helps to understand to ask questions
(10:24:39) (ron) like the heart
(10:25:02) (@gg) Ah so! Good thinking. And my dear man, thank you for not taking offense to my questioning. And one thing else I would like to say, please......
(10:25:08) (~WalksInSpirit) Well, you know what curiosity did to the cat, Shelley... ;-)
(10:25:13) (ron) yet, it is separate for the lower 3 centers, and is closer to the higher 3 centers, BUT...
(10:25:24) (~Blu) and satisfaction brought him back
(10:25:25) (merri) does the heart choose?
[/size](09:33:08) (Cris) Tonight is a reading on the Last Supper I thought that the timing was right to present it
(09:33:25) (Cris) After we can all share out thoughts
(09:33:42) (Cris) Edgar Cayce on Jesus
(09:33:53) (Cris) Topic: The Last Supper
(09:34:08) (Cris) TEXT OF READING 5749-1
(09:34:35) (Cris) Thse present include: Edgar Cayce; Gertrude Cayce, Conductor; Gladys Davis, Steno. Mildred Davis and Hugh Lynn Cayce.
(09:34:45) (Cris) Time of Reading 11:30 A. M.
(09:35:00) (Cris) 1. EC: The Lord's Supper - here with the Master - see what they had for supper - boiled fish, rice, with leeks, wine, and loaf. One of the pitchers in which it was served was broken - the handle was broken, as was the lip to same.
(09:35:32) (Cris) 2. The whole robe of the Master was not white, but pearl gray - all combined into one - the gift of Nicodemus to the Lord.
(09:35:58) (Cris) 3. The better looking of the twelve, of course, was Judas, while the younger was John - oval face, dark hair, smooth face - only one with the short hair. Peter, the rough and ready - always that of very short beard, rough, and not altogether clean; while Andrew's is just the opposite - very sparse, but inclined to be long more on the side and under the chin - long on the upper lip - his robe was always near gray or black, while his clouts or breeches were striped; while those of Philip and Bartholomew were red and brown.
(09:36:33) (Cris) 4. The Master's hair is 'most red, inclined to be curly in portions, yet not feminine or weak - STRONG, with heavy piercing eyes that are blue or steel-gray.
(09:36:48) (Cris) 5. His weight would be at least a hundred and seventy pounds. Long tapering fingers, nails well kept. Long nail, though, on the left little finger.
(09:38:23) (Cris) 6. Merry - even in the hour of trial. Joke - even in the moment of betrayal.
(09:38:33) (Cris) 7. The sack is empty. Judas departs.
(09:38:49) (Cris) 8. The last is given of the wine and loaf, with which He gives the emblems that should be so dear to every follower of Him. Lays aside His robe, which is all of one piece - girds the towel about His waist, which is dressed with linen that is blue and white. Rolls back the folds, kneels first before John, James, then to Peter - who refuses.
(09:39:21) (Cris) 9. Then the dissertation as to 'He that would be the greatest would be servant of all.'
(09:39:36) (Cris) 10. The basin is taken as without handle, and is made of wood. The water is from the gherkins [gourds], that are in the wide-mouth Shibboleths [streams? Judges 12:6], that stand in the house of John's father, Zebedee.
(09:40:06) (Cris) 11. And now comes "It is finished."
(09:40:22) (Cris) 12. They sing the ninety-first Psalm - "He that dwelleth in the secret place of the Most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in Him will I trust."
(09:40:36) (Cris) 13. He is the musician as well, for He uses the harp.
(09:40:46) (Cris) 14. They leave for the garden.
(09:42:14) (Cris) End of reading. This was EC's account of the Last Supper through the years there has been many scholastic arguments over exactly how this meal happened
(09:42:32) (Roz) wonderful Cris
(09:43:07) (merri) you mean what took place at the meal, Cris?
(09:43:27) (Cris) What took place, who was present and what was eaten
(09:43:47) (Cris) In the Bibe I read it never mentioned the simple fare or the broken pitcher
(09:44:32) (Cris) It was a good look into the past not only at the meal but what people wore
(09:44:52) (~Blu) It has always fascinated me that he had that one nail long
(09:44:55) (Cris) How does this account vary for each of you?
(09:45:42) (merri) it is more detailed then any account I have read
(09:45:56) (Roz) me too
(09:45:57) (~WalksInSpirit) I think this is a great account. I mean, you can just see it happening.
(09:45:59) (~Blu) Yes, makes it more personal
(09:46:10) (@gg) Was there ever a mention anywhere else in the Bible or Cayce readings about that long nail and what it signified?
(09:46:21) (Cris) Not that I recall
(09:46:47) (~Blu) I wonder if it had to do with the harp?
(09:46:51) (@gg) I never knew that He played the harp either. Is this the only place it is mentioned?
(09:47:14) (~Blu) I don't know Lory, but I knew he played it
(09:47:28) (@gg) Cayce simplified the story but yet it is, indeed, detailed.
(09:47:31) (Roz) I had never heard tha before
(09:47:35) (~Blu) I must have gotten it from the readings
(09:47:47) (merri) In Egypt the pharoh's had a long pinky nail which signified their status
(09:48:02) (~Blu) hmmm and he studied in Eygpt
(09:48:09) (Cris) In one account I once read it said Jesus was musical and danced very well
(09:48:19) (Roz) to clean out their ears?
(09:48:27) (~Blu) yes he was a very handsome man by all accounts
(09:48:55) (Cris) Essenese we accomplised in the arts so that makes sense
(09:49:06) (ron) if one counts down, considering the little finger as of little use on the material plane...and the possiblity of 2 missing fingers as what does not function on the earth plane, it would be the 3rd finger from the highestest of symbols of the 7 centers...thus a symbol of the Holy Spirit
(09:49:34) (Cris) Good point Ron
(09:50:16) (ron) but, since it is on the left hand, that makes my thought sound somewhat unacceptable to me
(09:50:25) (merri) 2 missing fingers?
(09:50:58) (@gg) Another comment. I always thought the robe was red, not pearl gray. Is Cayce's reading on this the only reference to the pearl gray color?
(09:50:59) (Cris) I never heard that Jesus had missing fingers but fishermen of old often lost fingers hauling in the nets
(09:51:02) (ron) the 2 missing fingers as symbols of 2 centers unseend...the pituitary and the pineal
(09:51:09) (ron) unseen*
(09:51:26) (ron) such as the thumb being the lowest center
(09:51:35) (ron) symbolic of the gonadic
(09:51:39) (Cris) This robe was given to him by Nicodemus
(09:51:44) (ron) or very earthly
(09:51:57) (ron) and very necessary
(09:52:18) (ron) sorry for that strange thoughtful pursuit
(09:52:58) (merri) what made you think red, Lorry
(09:53:05) (Cris) The clothes were pretty detailed
(09:53:24) (ron) what does catch my attention from this readding is....laughter, even at the moment of betrayal
(09:53:27) (@gg) But this robe must have been the one he was wearing at the time of His crucifixion since he had it on. Stories I've read such as The Robe, were always red.
(09:53:47) (merri) I don't remember seeing red in any pictures
(09:54:15) (@gg) The book, "The Robe" had the robe as red.
(09:54:25) (@gg) And the movie showed it as red.
(09:54:27) (Cris) Maybe they were remembering the blood on the robe
(09:54:52) (@gg) Where is the scripture about the color of the robe? Anyone know?
(09:55:11) (Cris) The red of the blood made the bible texts so that color was repeated not the stain on the fabric
(09:55:46) (Cris) not as the stain on the fabric of a different color
(09:55:56) (ron) red, the earth, underneath white, the spirit
(09:57:20) (Cris) Those texts have been translated many times and the people writing about the event didn't do it immediately our memory fades with time
(09:57:22) (@gg) Was the robe also placed on His body in the grave?
(09:57:36) (Cris) mary redressed his body
(09:57:37) (merri) in the painting of "The Last Supper" is the robe white or red?
(09:57:51) (~Blu) According to the Gospel of John, the soldiers who crucified Jesus did not divide his tunic after crucifying him, but cast lots to determine who would keep it because it was woven in one piece, without seam.
(09:57:59) (@gg) I do not know, Merri.
(09:58:10) (~Blu) The tradition of the Roman Catholic Church holds that the robe is now housed in the Cathedral of Trier, Germany. The historical record supporting the identification of this relic as genuine is not proven.
(09:58:22) (Cris) It might have been painted in the style of the time for what a person might have worn
(09:58:50) (merri) does it say what color Blu?
(09:59:03) (Cris) The painters didn't have an eye witness to query
(09:59:10) (ron) a white robe, with a something red thrown over the shoulder, i believe
(09:59:50) (@gg) Perhaps, then, it was that something thrown over the shoulder was what The Robe author was referring.
(10:00:39) (@gg) I have it in my mind that His mother, Mary made it. Don't know why.
(10:00:42) (Cris) White could have come from an ancient translation of light - pearl gray would have been a light colored fabric
(10:00:42) (~Blu) it has a picture and I sent it to all of you
(10:00:49) (~Blu) in the picture it looks gray
(10:01:36) (merri) what was the ritual He was performing when kneeling before the disciples
(10:01:43) (Cris) Word useage varies from generation to generation
(10:01:45) (~Blu) washing thier feet
(10:02:01) (merri) and why did Peter refuse
(10:02:03) (@gg) But Peter refused to have his feet washed. I wonder why?
(10:02:20) (~Blu) LOL, becasue he was the master
(10:02:46) (@gg) But the Master asked permission.
(10:02:58) (~Blu) Peter was to lowly to be honored this way
(10:03:04) (Cris) He was also the unkempt one
(10:03:05) (Roz) because he didnt feel worthy to have Jesus wash his feet
(10:03:06) (ron) the teacher was humiliating himself, i think
(10:03:07) (~Blu) in his way of thinking
(10:03:39) (Roz) bet not ron He said the greatest of all is the servant of all
(10:03:50) (Cris) Some people see no need for rituals today and that was probably true in the time of Jesus
(10:03:51) (~Blu) It was a custon to wash the feet of guests or provide a bowl of water for this
(10:04:29) (~Blu) they all wore sandals to if a guest came to your house you offered them water to wash with
(10:05:08) (merri) and it was pretty dusty times then without paved roads
(10:05:11) (Cris) It kept the floors cleaner too because less dust was tracked in
(10:05:21) (ron) perhps, i should have said, it was not the work of a master to do something so lowly
(10:05:28) (~Blu) however, this was after the supper was it not?
(10:05:45) (ron) thus, a symbol of the eternal servant
(10:06:21) (Cris) I am getting a page so I have to go. Blessings all
(10:06:32) (merri) TY Cris
(10:06:33) (Cris) Hope you enjoyed the reading
(10:06:39) (~Blu) Blessing and thanks Cris
(10:07:00) (Roz) gave his life that was pretty lowly?
(10:07:21) (ron) humility...what did the readings speak in this regard?
(10:07:33) (ron) humility or humbleness
(10:08:32) (merri) being humble, showing humility is keeping the ego aside
(10:08:33) (ron) regarding the symbol of the washing of the feet
(10:09:14) (Roz) or the mark of a good host?
(10:09:45) (~Blu) or symbolic of atonement
(10:10:09) (~WalksInSpirit) Ron, I am still back there tryin to figure out... did you mean Jesus may have had two missing fingers?
(10:11:48) (ron) no
(10:11:49) (merri) isn't cleansing part of the process before meeting the Holy Spirit
(10:11:56) (~WalksInSpirit) Ok
(10:12:12) (~WalksInSpirit) Cause the Reading said:
(10:12:15) (~WalksInSpirit) (09:36:48) (Cris) 5. His weight would be at least a hundred and seventy pounds. Long tapering fingers, nails well kept. Long nail, though, on the left little finger.
(10:12:25) (~WalksInSpirit) "fingers"
(10:12:29) (ron) i was taking the 7 centers and referencing them to the 5 fingers...the 2 highest being invisible
(10:13:00) (~WalksInSpirit) Ok, I didn't understand that.
(10:13:24) (ron) for all of us...the spirit side of life, being the invisibile aspect
(10:13:29) (Roz) I dont ron splain to me
(10:13:57) (Roz) what has fingers to do w/the centers?
(10:14:14) (ron) symbols of the invisible side of life the 2 centers...the father and the son...
(10:14:33) (ron) try not to misunderestand the symbolism
(10:14:39) (ron) that i'm using
(10:15:18) (ron) do i have to apoligize?
(10:15:27) (~Blu) no ron
(10:15:30) (~Blu) LOL
(10:15:52) (~WalksInSpirit) I dunno, Ron! Did you hurt somebody's feelins or offend them?
(10:16:14) (ron) it seems that everyone is getting after me
(10:16:30) (~WalksInSpirit) Ron, I was just tryin to understand what you said.
(10:16:32) (@gg) No, he didn't WAlks. He is just being sensitive. And we love him that way.
(10:16:37) (ron) i was just drawing on symbolic meanings
(10:16:38) (~Blu) naw Ron, just questions
(10:16:57) (~WalksInSpirit) I apologize for not understanding you.
(10:17:19) (ron) i don't know
(10:17:34) (shelley) not me ron-i think you're just great!!! keeep up the good work
(10:17:44) (~Blu) right
(10:18:53) (shelley) i would like to apologize for being late, and to anyone whom i may have offended.
(10:18:58) (~Blu) Can you imagine if someone tried to wash your feet?
(10:18:59) (ron) these thoughts i have regarding the 5 fingers, the 5 centers, the 5 senses, are my own
(10:19:40) (~Blu) Of course taking it out ot the context of the culture is hard
(10:19:53) (~Blu) wonder what would be comparable today?
(10:19:56) (ron) shelley, thank you for such a nice compliment
(10:20:21) (shelley) you are wlecome ( is the check in the mail) ha ha ha just joking
(10:20:31) (~Blu) LOL
(10:20:34) (ron) of course :)
(10:20:37) (shelley) i have bad sense of humor
(10:20:41) (@gg) OK the, ron. Let's have a dissertation about this. I can see where your reference makes sense, and yet we have ten fingers and ten toes. Don't the rest of them count for something? LOL
(10:20:42) (~Blu) cash on the barrel head, love to see that!
(10:20:45) (shelley) i apologize once again
(10:21:04) (~Blu) ah shelley...it's no biggie
(10:21:25) (shelley) maybe i need practice in apologizing
(10:21:31) (~Blu) we have 5 physical sensees
(10:21:32) (ron) ok GG
(10:21:35) (~Blu) not 10
(10:21:40) (~Blu) LOL
(10:22:00) (~Blu) ok, well you should practice being offensive first then practice apologizing
(10:22:02) (ron) you have 2 sets of symbols which have a connection to my basic meaning,...but
(10:22:32) (ron) one set is on the right side of the body, and the other set is on the left side of the body...so
(10:23:10) (ron) feet might be your path in life, your hands, is your application in life
(10:23:13) (ron) so...
(10:23:20) (~WalksInSpirit) Ron, I realize this is your own thoughts. That is why I was asking for clarification, because I was not understanding you. And I apologize again for questioning you. Won't happen again!
(10:23:46) (ron) the left always refers to misapplication...and the right is proper application
(10:23:53) (ron) or, what you do in life is
(10:24:00) (ron) that you have a choice...
(10:24:04) (~Blu) ok, now I see ron
(10:24:12) (ron) to either to do what is right or what is wrong!!!
(10:24:17) (shelley) i'm glad you asked the questions Walks, cause i was wondering also-it helps to understand to ask questions
(10:24:39) (ron) like the heart
(10:25:02) (@gg) Ah so! Good thinking. And my dear man, thank you for not taking offense to my questioning. And one thing else I would like to say, please......
(10:25:08) (~WalksInSpirit) Well, you know what curiosity did to the cat, Shelley... ;-)
(10:25:13) (ron) yet, it is separate for the lower 3 centers, and is closer to the higher 3 centers, BUT...
(10:25:24) (~Blu) and satisfaction brought him back
(10:25:25) (merri) does the heart choose?
