Post by WalksInSpirit on Jun 30, 2007 22:55:45 GMT -5
Creative Astrology - Evening Chat: 06-30-07
(09:12:45) (~AutoGreeter) The Red Path Chat Room welcomes you to Creative Astrology Chat, Hosted By Lynn.
(09:16:14) (@host-Lynn) Are you folks ready to begin now?
(09:16:25) (@host-Lynn) ok
(09:16:44) (@host-Lynn) "Astrology is like a life giving elixir to mankind...Albert Einstein
(09:17:04) (@host-Lynn) "Astrology represents the summation of all the psychological knowledge of antiquity." Carl Jung
(09:17:24) (@host-Lynn) Dictionary definition: archetype ("arch type") an original model or type after which other similar things are patterned.
(09:17:45) (@host-Lynn) Archetypes are energy personality patterns within Universal Mind. These have been transmitted into our individual minds: clown, artist, knight, crone, guru, child, warrior, and many more.
(09:18:14) (@host-Lynn) "The archetype is made of image and emotion; the image presents the meaning of the emotion, and the emotion gives the image its dynamic energy." John Perry
(09:18:48) (@host-Lynn) "Archetypes are expressions of underlying energy patterns which shape life itself....and although an archetype has no form, it communicates itself to us through many symbols of a nature so vast that the conscious ego backs off in awe." Liz Greene
(09:19:43) (@host-Lynn) From Ms. Greene's quote above ."and although an archetype has no form,"....................
(09:20:37) (@host-Lynn) An archetype is an energy pattern within Universal Mind that you can shape YOUR way. Lots of variations are available if you think 'em up!
(09:21:16) (@host-Lynn) Example: fairy is an archetype. Fairy can be good fairy, dark fairy, grumpy gnome, green elf, scary goblin, busy brownie, Sleepy dwarf, tricky leprechaun, shy pixie and more. But the basic energy pattern, archetype, is, or may be, fairy.)
(09:22:23) (@host-Lynn) To continue with Ms. Greene's definition of archetypes......."it communicates itself to us through many symbols of a nature so vast that the conscious ego backs off in awe." Liz Greene
(09:23:22) (@host-Lynn) Ok, Liz Greene. Let us mount up on eagle wings and scan a few of these SYMBOLS of a nature so vast"
(09:23:36) (@host-Lynn) ARIES hero, boss, pioneer, TAURUS lover, courtesan, couch potato, GEMINI messenger, writer, trickster, CANCER mother, homemaker, nurse, LEO aristocrat, actor, ruler, VIRGO saint, analyst,
(09:24:10) (@host-Lynn) LIBRA, judge, politician, musician SCORPIO alchemist, detective, eagle SAGITTARIUS philosopher, traveler, student CAPRICORN climber, manager, elder AQUARIUS humanitarian, inventor, freedom-fighter, PISCES mystic, prisoner, dreamer
(09:27:24) (@host-Lynn) The down home fiddle playing and square dancing in our horoscopes makes for more fun than a Friday night over on Bosun's Stretch
(09:28:00) (@host-Lynn) We can sashay with Judge Libra, left elbow swing with Outlaw, and do-si-do with trickster. We can even be a head couple with Leo and those other folks are gonna stomp and clap and make us happy.
(09:28:21) (@host-Lynn) You see, we are not just Aries or Gemini or Libra. The archetypes of every planet and every sign sit in symbols within our horoscopes. The activated archetypes affect our lives. And there are enough of them that we can change outfits for every dance if it tickles our fancy.
(09:29:06) (@host-Lynn) Together, as square dancers, we can make an arch and pass through all 12 signs. Just keep an ear on the Caller (higher power) and do your stepping and your skipping to the fiddle playing Universal theme songs.
(09:29:25) (@host-Lynn) The various archetypes in the horoscope love and quarrel and frustrate and play together. Their relationships are called aspects
(09:29:55) (@host-Lynn) The aspects are conjunction ("You and me together, beautiful music!)) sextile ( "We can get along together right nicely") square ("What the H---!") trine ("Oh, honey. You so sweet!") opposition ("How come you´re always against me?")
(09:30:14) (@host-Lynn) Problem with dancing archetypes, we get to thinking we ARE the archetypes.
(09:30:42) (@host-Lynn) Well, we´re not. We participate in the dance. We follow the Lord of the Dance. Our true selves do not wear cowboy hats, royal robes, prisoner stripes or nun´s habits. Our true selves are not archetypes. We are godlings.
(09:31:02) (@host-Lynn) As godlings, we express through archetypes.
(09:31:26) (@host-Lynn) The form an archetypal takes is dependent on the choices we make in our living. Remember the different forms of the fairy archetype listed above.
(09:31:44) (@host-Lynn) Usually, we activate the archetypal form, positive or negative, rich or poor, beautiful or ugly, interesting or dull, according to our emotional take on it.
(09:32:25) (@host-Lynn) Example: Clown is an archetype. Jim enjoys being a clown. He puts on his outfit and makeup and goes to Bettina's sixth birthday party to amuse the kiddies. Is Jim Clown? Nope. Jim is Jim. He is using and enjoying the archetype clown.
(09:33:05) (@host-Lynn) Judy is stuck in archetype HOUSEWIFE She never meant to get pregnant but at the time she was in archetype REBEL. She didn´t know she was in any archetype and would have told you off if you mentioned it. Judy just thought she had a right to do her own thing.
(09:35:05) (@host-Lynn) Barry is archetype FACTORY WORKER since he didn´t get to be archetype STUDENT and is so frustrated he´s becoming archetype BULLY which archetype Junior is likely to copy as he grows up
(09:37:04) (@host-Lynn) The cycle goes like this: BE the archetype. DO what the archetype does. HAVE what the archetype has.
(09:37:25) (@host-Lynn) Isn´t it sad that most people don´t even know about archetypes. Parents and society most often choose, even enforce people´s archetypes. The Bible says, "My People are destroyed for lack of knowledge." Hosea 4:6
(09:37:47) (@host-Lynn) Whoever uses an archetype leaves their experience vibrations within the archetype. Other users may be benefited, or harmed, by the vibrations stored within the archetype
(09:38:50) (@host-Lynn) Another reason why it is so important to keep ourselves spiritually clean! Our vibes can help purify the archetypes for ourselves and others. We are ONE.
(09:39:48) (@host-Lynn) Sometimes, we get confused about who we really are. We get to thinking we are the archetype: soldier, boss, teacher
(09:40:19) (@host-Lynn) When Barry was tuning into BULLY, he was really upset. Barry didn´t want to be BULLY but the energies were activated by his dislike for boring FACTORY WORKER. Barry used to dream about being KNIGHT rescuing a damsel especially when he picked up PROSTITUTE.
(09:40:35) (@host-Lynn) It´s the most natural thing in the world to get confused about who you are. Want to know why?
(09:40:52) (@host-Lynn) Universal Mind, call It God if it suits your fancy, is absolutely fascinated with us. Some might say we are God´s archetypes
(09:41:19) (@host-Lynn) Before the sparkling darkness, ONE got lonesome. ONE wanted buddies, friends, us. Big Bang! Energy explosion..............us! LOL LOL LOL.
(09:41:35) (@host-Lynn) Problem was, we were all bits of ONE and all of One was in each bit of us and we all felt exactly the same way about everything and we were all bored! LOL God wanted companions, not broken mirrors!
(09:41:56) (@host-Lynn) So God came up with the idea of free will. In fact we all came up with the idea of free will at the very same time. LOL cause we were all the same. What fun was that!!!
(09:42:18) (@host-Lynn) What good was free will if we all free willed the very same thing at the very same time? We all looked at each other and we all shrugged the very same shrug and we all grinned the very same grin.
(09:42:46) (@host-Lynn) Experience! That would make us different!
(09:43:17) (@host-Lynn) One of us, and that meant all of us said, "I´ll be God and stay here. You all go straight ahead."
(09:43:35) (@host-Lynn) Finally, one of us yelled, "THOU SHALT NOT!"
(09:43:52) (@host-Lynn) The THOU with the implied difference between us settled things. Everybody but the one who yelled THOU SHALT NOT started running off in different directions.
(09:44:21) (@host-Lynn) We were going to get experience. Then we would each be a different expression of the original ONE. After we got experienced we could come back home and enjoy each other.
(09:45:17) (@host-Lynn) Now, if you folks don´t like my version of in the beginning, go back and remember your own version. Then, I´ll listen to you.
(09:45:41) (@host-Lynn) God, the one who yelled THOU SHALT NOT and was left behind did get himself an archetype. OLD MAN AT THE END OF THE WORLD.
(09:45:58) (@host-Lynn) FATHER, looks down that lonesome road to see if we are making our way back home to be his companions.
(09:47:12) (@host-Lynn) But GOD only gets to do that on breaks! Most of the time he and his ANGELS are so busy answering our prayers and bailing us out of our experiences, he just doesn't´t have time to be lonesome.
(09:47:56) (@host-Lynn) It´s win-win!
(09:48:36) (@host-Lynn) Just for fun, on the web site given below, there´s a colorful list of archetypes. You might want to check it over to determine what archetypes influence you and/or your family members.
(09:49:06) (@host-Lynn) Dats it folks" says Bugs Bunny
(09:49:15) (@host-Lynn) Do you have any questions?
(09:49:32) (@host-Lynn) ok
(09:49:37) (@host-Lynn) OPEN CHAT
(09:49:39) (Cris) Interesting perspective
(09:49:40) (merri) Where's the website addy?
(09:49:56) (@host-Lynn) I´ll try to get it
(09:50:36) (@host-Lynn) www.earthvision.info/archetypes
(09:51:12) (merri) is it the planets position at the time of birth that determines the archetypes one chooses?
(09:51:16) (merri) TY
(09:51:45) (@host-Lynn) Not completely. All archetypes are available. But some get along together better than others. That is the aspects in astrology
(09:52:18) (@host-Lynn) If you know how its done, you can choose about any archetype and gain access to the power of that archetype
(09:52:42) (@host-Lynn) That´s one reason why some people don´t seem to fit their charts
(09:52:51) (@host-Lynn) As Cayce said, Free Will is the power
(09:52:59) (@host-Lynn) But you need knowledge, sometimes.
(09:53:23) (@host-Lynn) There are parts of your chart where the aspects are powerful and the planets
(09:53:37) (@host-Lynn) If you know where the power is you can use that power, turn it on so to speak
(09:53:40) (merri) so if one doesn't fit their chart how do you know who you would fit best with?
(09:54:09) (@host-Lynn) Observation. Astrology is not a whip. These are inclinations only
(09:54:27) (@host-Lynn) My daughter had a chart one immoral astrologer told her she would die a drug addict
(09:54:40) (@host-Lynn) and though I did not tell her not at all her chart looked like it
(09:54:52) (@host-Lynn) But she is a very successful counselor and happily married
(09:54:55) (@host-Lynn) She chose
(09:55:11) (vjh) There was a guy I knew one time in NC who didn't fit his chart and then I heard he had been profiled by John Walsh and was a pedophile using a fallse identity and I guess the worng birthdate.
(09:55:20) (Cris) That's because we all have free will
(09:55:41) (@host-Lynn) True. But sometimes we need to educate our free will
(09:55:46) (vjh) He gave off bad vibes. No one likd him.
(09:55:52) (@host-Lynn) Astrology can show you where your power is
(09:56:03) (@host-Lynn) Astrology does not control you
(09:56:10) (@host-Lynn) It is a chart only
(09:56:23) (@host-Lynn) Does the road map control you when you drive to another state?
(09:56:50) (merri) if you want to get where your going! LOL
(09:56:51) (@host-Lynn) When we get into aspects, I can show you more.
(09:57:18) (@host-Lynn) Got it Merri
(09:57:18) (Cris) I like driving back roads they are more interesting
(09:57:35) (@host-Lynn) And you can drive back roads with your horoscope
(09:57:44) (Cris) In certain areas the ditches contain interesting fossils :o)
(09:58:05) (Leon) appreciate your message, Lynn, 'thanks'
(09:58:13) (@host-Lynn) I have a problem with my Scorpio. But if I pull on y Libra, I do great. My Venus which rules Libra is in Scorpio. Libra can straighten her out with Mars and Mercury
(09:58:46) (@host-Lynn) I just don´t want to get into technical things that you might not understand yet
(09:58:52) (@host-Lynn) But if you want to, I´m game.
(09:59:20) (@host-Lynn) Just no horary astrology lol
(09:59:42) (@host-Lynn) OPEN CHAT
(10:00:07) (merri) does being born on the cusp add or detract from ones chart?
(10:00:11) (@host-Lynn) I want to thank you for your patience with my posting
(10:00:23) (@host-Lynn) No
(10:00:27) (merri) does it make it more confusing?
(10:00:43) (@host-Lynn) What is confusing? Understand and there is no confusion.
(10:01:01) (@host-Lynn) On the cusp gives more balance lets say between the two signs
(10:01:03) (@host-Lynn) maybe
(10:01:10) (@host-Lynn) many factors figure in to any chart
(10:01:17) (@host-Lynn) It really is interrelated
(10:01:45) (@host-Lynn) Next week I expect to get into the signs archetypes
(10:02:01) (@host-Lynn) and to show how the sun sign can be almost obscured
(10:02:10) (@host-Lynn) Me, astrologers guess me Leo.
(10:02:12) (@host-Lynn) not so
(10:02:20) (@host-Lynn) I only have Pluto in Leo
(10:02:29) (~WalksInSpirit) Great chat, Lynn!
(10:02:37) (@host-Lynn) Thank you, WIS
(10:02:47) (@host-Lynn) I need more practice with posting. I will practice
(10:02:58) (@host-Lynn) My arrow keeps getting lost
(10:03:02) (@host-Lynn) hide and seek lol
(10:03:40) (@host-Lynn) Merri you seem to be quite knowledgeable about astrology.
(10:03:56) (@host-Lynn) Perhaps it helps that your specialty dreams are also symbols usually
(10:04:00) (merri) I got all my old charts out and was looking thru them the other day
(10:04:13) (@host-Lynn) What did you find?
(10:04:22) (merri) I have 3 done by different people
(10:04:33) (merri) over 25yrs ago
(10:04:42) (@host-Lynn) Were they done on the computer as far as drawing up the horoscope?
(10:05:05) (merri) 2 were but the very first one wasn't
(10:05:05) (@host-Lynn) Might have a lot of errors. Math is tricky. It all used to have to be done by person making mistakes.
(10:05:17) (@host-Lynn) I will not do a chart unless it is off of the computer.
(10:05:46) (merri) it was interesting reading
(10:05:46) (@host-Lynn) I had one lady, she had three charts. Each had a different rising sign. I said get computer chart or no reading from me. LOL
(10:06:07) (merri) alot was very on the mark
(10:06:07) (@host-Lynn) I´ll bet
(10:06:13) (@host-Lynn) good
(10:06:29) (merri) but there were several places that were far off
(10:06:35) (@host-Lynn) Every chart I look at seems to have a theme I look for problem and solution
(10:07:06) (@host-Lynn) I don´t use it for fortune telling. The person has free will. If he understands power available to him, he can use his free will.
(10:07:15) (merri) something to do with what house Mercury is in
(10:07:18) (@host-Lynn) That´s how I believe in using a chart. It is a map of power
(10:07:45) (@host-Lynn) That could be a strong power source or disadvantage. What are the aspects_
(10:08:06) (@host-Lynn) Do Venus and Mars get along together? How does Mercury feel about Saturn? Etc
(10:08:30) (@host-Lynn) I see a horoscope as a map of relationships between planets
(10:08:30) (merri) LOL I'll have to read up on that
(10:08:59) (@host-Lynn) I think each astrologer has his own approach. Mine is, I want something that can be applied and used .
(10:09:10) (@host-Lynn) I want to help make a difference for people in their lives.
(10:09:15) (merri) I agree
(10:09:33) (@host-Lynn) That´s why I get into archetypes. LOL
(10:09:37) (merri) one other question
(10:09:51) (@host-Lynn) Roger Bacon said Knowledge is Power
(10:10:05) (@host-Lynn) Knowledge is available but not a fortune cookie is the way I feel
(10:10:52) (merri) what would be in one's chart (this was in two of the charts) that would give the warning to "stay away from all weapons, such as guns?"
(10:10:54) (@host-Lynn) I´d love to hear your other question
(10:11:08) (@host-Lynn) probably Mars
(10:11:29) (@host-Lynn) Is it near the eighth house, does it rule the eighth house or what?
(10:11:54) (@host-Lynn) There are also other factors that could be a warning
(10:12:24) (@host-Lynn) For instance if Mars and Pluto don´t like each other and fight with Mercury, that could be a problem
(10:12:30) (merri) I'll check and it also warned against violent tendency...I have to be the most non-violent person you would ever meet!
(10:13:01) (@host-Lynn) That makes sense. Why are you so non violent? I love it. But why is one of many questions.
(10:16:52) (@host-Lynn) I look at a chart for the problems and the answers. I always seem to find a major life theme.
(10:17:06) (@host-Lynn) The chart is to be used if you want to use it.
(10:18:08) (merri) As Cayce said astrology, numerology, etc. are tools
(10:18:14) (@host-Lynn) Take my Venus in Scorpio, please take it! I don´t want it! LOL but Libra which is Venus sign has mercury )intelligence) and mars )strength) and some others. I´m ok with Libra
(10:18:21) (@host-Lynn) Exactly
(10:18:40) (@host-Lynn) Mr. Cayce says what I say. Or is it the other way around. LOL I say what Cayce says.
(10:18:57) (@host-Lynn) Also, astrology is simply a tool to convey psychic information
(10:19:12) (merri) that is how I have always viewed them
(10:19:19) (@host-Lynn) It is a tool, a map. It is to be looked to for discovering your power. It does not tell your future, I think
(10:19:29) (@host-Lynn) I also use numerology sometimes
(10:19:37) (vjh) What do you think Pluto does, its main effect?
(10:19:39) (@host-Lynn) They are all tools given for our use.
(10:19:58) (@host-Lynn) Pluto deals with the dark side.
(10:20:05) (@host-Lynn) The dark side is also important.
(10:20:12) (merri) that is one HUGE planet!
(10:20:19) (@host-Lynn) If Jesus had not been tortured on the cross we would not have salvation.
(10:20:24) (@host-Lynn) That is my take on it.
(10:20:37) (@host-Lynn) If the dark is understood, the light is turned on, and it is no longer dark.
(10:20:41) (vjh) People who have it on the ascendant are very intuitive though.
(10:21:15) (@host-Lynn) So is Pisces,
(10:21:39) (@host-Lynn) Do you like Pluto, vjh. I do.
(10:21:43) (@host-Lynn) I am Scorpio.
(10:22:30) (vjh) I don't know. Pluto seems to have power and causes extremes.
(10:23:04) (@host-Lynn) Pluto is dangerous but if the power is directed Pluto gives resurrection power.
(10:23:28) (@host-Lynn) All power is dangerous if you are not responsible and careful with it.
(10:23:50) (vjh) Well, John F. Kennedy had Pluto conjunct with the moon and he was woman crazy.
(10:24:04) (vjh) It seems like Pluto causes obsessions.
(10:24:11) (@host-Lynn) What man isn´t? Except the good guys we know, of course.
(10:24:35) (vjh) I know someone who had Pluto opposing Venus and he ran around with so many different women I'm surprised he knew all the names.p
(10:24:45) (@host-Lynn) Pluto causes nothing. We allow. We are ignorant. We need knowleddge to make good decisions. At least many of the we do.
(10:26:15) (@host-Lynn) We cannot blame the planets. Why give away our power? LIke I said about my daughter, who is Scorpio, she could have died an addict in an alley. She is a fine young woman doing much good as a counselor. She chose. Pluto did not choose. Michelle chose
(10:26:43) (Alec-) yes
(10:26:56) (@host-Lynn) I know I can have real problems with my Venus in Pluto. Boy could I!! I choose Virgo rising.
(10:27:03) (@host-Lynn) I choose to serve.
(10:27:52) (@host-Lynn) vjh, do you know where your Pluto is. It´s a place to be careful but power can be used to serve.
(10:28:26) (vjh) It's conjunct Saturn in Leo. And I have a Capricorn ascendent. It makes me melancholy.
(10:29:06) (@host-Lynn) No, it does not make you melancholy. You are pulling on it if you want. Where is Venus? Where is Mercury?
(10:29:27) (@host-Lynn) Venus is your love. Mercury is your intelligence.
(10:29:30) (merlin) what is january 9 1947 ascendant?
(10:29:52) (vjh) Venus and Mars are conjunct in 29 Scorpio and 0 Sag. Mercury is 5 Sag and the draagontail is 13 Sag.4
(10:31:17) (@host-Lynn) Honey, you have a LOT of power to love if you want to use it. You also have resurrection power.
(10:31:41) (@host-Lynn) You are a seeker.
(10:32:10) (@host-Lynn) And you will not stop until you find the spiritual answers you are looking for. You are also frequently misunderstood. LOL
(10:32:36) (@host-Lynn) Hang in there. Your greatest success can come, of course, from helping others. You could help people resurrect.
(09:16:14) (@host-Lynn) Are you folks ready to begin now?
(09:16:25) (@host-Lynn) ok
(09:16:44) (@host-Lynn) "Astrology is like a life giving elixir to mankind...Albert Einstein
(09:17:04) (@host-Lynn) "Astrology represents the summation of all the psychological knowledge of antiquity." Carl Jung
(09:17:24) (@host-Lynn) Dictionary definition: archetype ("arch type") an original model or type after which other similar things are patterned.
(09:17:45) (@host-Lynn) Archetypes are energy personality patterns within Universal Mind. These have been transmitted into our individual minds: clown, artist, knight, crone, guru, child, warrior, and many more.
(09:18:14) (@host-Lynn) "The archetype is made of image and emotion; the image presents the meaning of the emotion, and the emotion gives the image its dynamic energy." John Perry
(09:18:48) (@host-Lynn) "Archetypes are expressions of underlying energy patterns which shape life itself....and although an archetype has no form, it communicates itself to us through many symbols of a nature so vast that the conscious ego backs off in awe." Liz Greene
(09:19:43) (@host-Lynn) From Ms. Greene's quote above ."and although an archetype has no form,"....................
(09:20:37) (@host-Lynn) An archetype is an energy pattern within Universal Mind that you can shape YOUR way. Lots of variations are available if you think 'em up!
(09:21:16) (@host-Lynn) Example: fairy is an archetype. Fairy can be good fairy, dark fairy, grumpy gnome, green elf, scary goblin, busy brownie, Sleepy dwarf, tricky leprechaun, shy pixie and more. But the basic energy pattern, archetype, is, or may be, fairy.)
(09:22:23) (@host-Lynn) To continue with Ms. Greene's definition of archetypes......."it communicates itself to us through many symbols of a nature so vast that the conscious ego backs off in awe." Liz Greene
(09:23:22) (@host-Lynn) Ok, Liz Greene. Let us mount up on eagle wings and scan a few of these SYMBOLS of a nature so vast"
(09:23:36) (@host-Lynn) ARIES hero, boss, pioneer, TAURUS lover, courtesan, couch potato, GEMINI messenger, writer, trickster, CANCER mother, homemaker, nurse, LEO aristocrat, actor, ruler, VIRGO saint, analyst,
(09:24:10) (@host-Lynn) LIBRA, judge, politician, musician SCORPIO alchemist, detective, eagle SAGITTARIUS philosopher, traveler, student CAPRICORN climber, manager, elder AQUARIUS humanitarian, inventor, freedom-fighter, PISCES mystic, prisoner, dreamer
(09:27:24) (@host-Lynn) The down home fiddle playing and square dancing in our horoscopes makes for more fun than a Friday night over on Bosun's Stretch
(09:28:00) (@host-Lynn) We can sashay with Judge Libra, left elbow swing with Outlaw, and do-si-do with trickster. We can even be a head couple with Leo and those other folks are gonna stomp and clap and make us happy.
(09:28:21) (@host-Lynn) You see, we are not just Aries or Gemini or Libra. The archetypes of every planet and every sign sit in symbols within our horoscopes. The activated archetypes affect our lives. And there are enough of them that we can change outfits for every dance if it tickles our fancy.
(09:29:06) (@host-Lynn) Together, as square dancers, we can make an arch and pass through all 12 signs. Just keep an ear on the Caller (higher power) and do your stepping and your skipping to the fiddle playing Universal theme songs.
(09:29:25) (@host-Lynn) The various archetypes in the horoscope love and quarrel and frustrate and play together. Their relationships are called aspects
(09:29:55) (@host-Lynn) The aspects are conjunction ("You and me together, beautiful music!)) sextile ( "We can get along together right nicely") square ("What the H---!") trine ("Oh, honey. You so sweet!") opposition ("How come you´re always against me?")
(09:30:14) (@host-Lynn) Problem with dancing archetypes, we get to thinking we ARE the archetypes.
(09:30:42) (@host-Lynn) Well, we´re not. We participate in the dance. We follow the Lord of the Dance. Our true selves do not wear cowboy hats, royal robes, prisoner stripes or nun´s habits. Our true selves are not archetypes. We are godlings.
(09:31:02) (@host-Lynn) As godlings, we express through archetypes.
(09:31:26) (@host-Lynn) The form an archetypal takes is dependent on the choices we make in our living. Remember the different forms of the fairy archetype listed above.
(09:31:44) (@host-Lynn) Usually, we activate the archetypal form, positive or negative, rich or poor, beautiful or ugly, interesting or dull, according to our emotional take on it.
(09:32:25) (@host-Lynn) Example: Clown is an archetype. Jim enjoys being a clown. He puts on his outfit and makeup and goes to Bettina's sixth birthday party to amuse the kiddies. Is Jim Clown? Nope. Jim is Jim. He is using and enjoying the archetype clown.
(09:33:05) (@host-Lynn) Judy is stuck in archetype HOUSEWIFE She never meant to get pregnant but at the time she was in archetype REBEL. She didn´t know she was in any archetype and would have told you off if you mentioned it. Judy just thought she had a right to do her own thing.
(09:35:05) (@host-Lynn) Barry is archetype FACTORY WORKER since he didn´t get to be archetype STUDENT and is so frustrated he´s becoming archetype BULLY which archetype Junior is likely to copy as he grows up
(09:37:04) (@host-Lynn) The cycle goes like this: BE the archetype. DO what the archetype does. HAVE what the archetype has.
(09:37:25) (@host-Lynn) Isn´t it sad that most people don´t even know about archetypes. Parents and society most often choose, even enforce people´s archetypes. The Bible says, "My People are destroyed for lack of knowledge." Hosea 4:6
(09:37:47) (@host-Lynn) Whoever uses an archetype leaves their experience vibrations within the archetype. Other users may be benefited, or harmed, by the vibrations stored within the archetype
(09:38:50) (@host-Lynn) Another reason why it is so important to keep ourselves spiritually clean! Our vibes can help purify the archetypes for ourselves and others. We are ONE.
(09:39:48) (@host-Lynn) Sometimes, we get confused about who we really are. We get to thinking we are the archetype: soldier, boss, teacher
(09:40:19) (@host-Lynn) When Barry was tuning into BULLY, he was really upset. Barry didn´t want to be BULLY but the energies were activated by his dislike for boring FACTORY WORKER. Barry used to dream about being KNIGHT rescuing a damsel especially when he picked up PROSTITUTE.
(09:40:35) (@host-Lynn) It´s the most natural thing in the world to get confused about who you are. Want to know why?
(09:40:52) (@host-Lynn) Universal Mind, call It God if it suits your fancy, is absolutely fascinated with us. Some might say we are God´s archetypes
(09:41:19) (@host-Lynn) Before the sparkling darkness, ONE got lonesome. ONE wanted buddies, friends, us. Big Bang! Energy explosion..............us! LOL LOL LOL.
(09:41:35) (@host-Lynn) Problem was, we were all bits of ONE and all of One was in each bit of us and we all felt exactly the same way about everything and we were all bored! LOL God wanted companions, not broken mirrors!
(09:41:56) (@host-Lynn) So God came up with the idea of free will. In fact we all came up with the idea of free will at the very same time. LOL cause we were all the same. What fun was that!!!
(09:42:18) (@host-Lynn) What good was free will if we all free willed the very same thing at the very same time? We all looked at each other and we all shrugged the very same shrug and we all grinned the very same grin.
(09:42:46) (@host-Lynn) Experience! That would make us different!
(09:43:17) (@host-Lynn) One of us, and that meant all of us said, "I´ll be God and stay here. You all go straight ahead."
(09:43:35) (@host-Lynn) Finally, one of us yelled, "THOU SHALT NOT!"
(09:43:52) (@host-Lynn) The THOU with the implied difference between us settled things. Everybody but the one who yelled THOU SHALT NOT started running off in different directions.
(09:44:21) (@host-Lynn) We were going to get experience. Then we would each be a different expression of the original ONE. After we got experienced we could come back home and enjoy each other.
(09:45:17) (@host-Lynn) Now, if you folks don´t like my version of in the beginning, go back and remember your own version. Then, I´ll listen to you.
(09:45:41) (@host-Lynn) God, the one who yelled THOU SHALT NOT and was left behind did get himself an archetype. OLD MAN AT THE END OF THE WORLD.
(09:45:58) (@host-Lynn) FATHER, looks down that lonesome road to see if we are making our way back home to be his companions.
(09:47:12) (@host-Lynn) But GOD only gets to do that on breaks! Most of the time he and his ANGELS are so busy answering our prayers and bailing us out of our experiences, he just doesn't´t have time to be lonesome.
(09:47:56) (@host-Lynn) It´s win-win!
(09:48:36) (@host-Lynn) Just for fun, on the web site given below, there´s a colorful list of archetypes. You might want to check it over to determine what archetypes influence you and/or your family members.
(09:49:06) (@host-Lynn) Dats it folks" says Bugs Bunny
(09:49:15) (@host-Lynn) Do you have any questions?
(09:49:32) (@host-Lynn) ok
(09:49:37) (@host-Lynn) OPEN CHAT
(09:49:39) (Cris) Interesting perspective
(09:49:40) (merri) Where's the website addy?
(09:49:56) (@host-Lynn) I´ll try to get it
(09:50:36) (@host-Lynn) www.earthvision.info/archetypes
(09:51:12) (merri) is it the planets position at the time of birth that determines the archetypes one chooses?
(09:51:16) (merri) TY
(09:51:45) (@host-Lynn) Not completely. All archetypes are available. But some get along together better than others. That is the aspects in astrology
(09:52:18) (@host-Lynn) If you know how its done, you can choose about any archetype and gain access to the power of that archetype
(09:52:42) (@host-Lynn) That´s one reason why some people don´t seem to fit their charts
(09:52:51) (@host-Lynn) As Cayce said, Free Will is the power
(09:52:59) (@host-Lynn) But you need knowledge, sometimes.
(09:53:23) (@host-Lynn) There are parts of your chart where the aspects are powerful and the planets
(09:53:37) (@host-Lynn) If you know where the power is you can use that power, turn it on so to speak
(09:53:40) (merri) so if one doesn't fit their chart how do you know who you would fit best with?
(09:54:09) (@host-Lynn) Observation. Astrology is not a whip. These are inclinations only
(09:54:27) (@host-Lynn) My daughter had a chart one immoral astrologer told her she would die a drug addict
(09:54:40) (@host-Lynn) and though I did not tell her not at all her chart looked like it
(09:54:52) (@host-Lynn) But she is a very successful counselor and happily married
(09:54:55) (@host-Lynn) She chose
(09:55:11) (vjh) There was a guy I knew one time in NC who didn't fit his chart and then I heard he had been profiled by John Walsh and was a pedophile using a fallse identity and I guess the worng birthdate.
(09:55:20) (Cris) That's because we all have free will
(09:55:41) (@host-Lynn) True. But sometimes we need to educate our free will
(09:55:46) (vjh) He gave off bad vibes. No one likd him.
(09:55:52) (@host-Lynn) Astrology can show you where your power is
(09:56:03) (@host-Lynn) Astrology does not control you
(09:56:10) (@host-Lynn) It is a chart only
(09:56:23) (@host-Lynn) Does the road map control you when you drive to another state?
(09:56:50) (merri) if you want to get where your going! LOL
(09:56:51) (@host-Lynn) When we get into aspects, I can show you more.
(09:57:18) (@host-Lynn) Got it Merri
(09:57:18) (Cris) I like driving back roads they are more interesting
(09:57:35) (@host-Lynn) And you can drive back roads with your horoscope
(09:57:44) (Cris) In certain areas the ditches contain interesting fossils :o)
(09:58:05) (Leon) appreciate your message, Lynn, 'thanks'
(09:58:13) (@host-Lynn) I have a problem with my Scorpio. But if I pull on y Libra, I do great. My Venus which rules Libra is in Scorpio. Libra can straighten her out with Mars and Mercury
(09:58:46) (@host-Lynn) I just don´t want to get into technical things that you might not understand yet
(09:58:52) (@host-Lynn) But if you want to, I´m game.
(09:59:20) (@host-Lynn) Just no horary astrology lol
(09:59:42) (@host-Lynn) OPEN CHAT
(10:00:07) (merri) does being born on the cusp add or detract from ones chart?
(10:00:11) (@host-Lynn) I want to thank you for your patience with my posting
(10:00:23) (@host-Lynn) No
(10:00:27) (merri) does it make it more confusing?
(10:00:43) (@host-Lynn) What is confusing? Understand and there is no confusion.
(10:01:01) (@host-Lynn) On the cusp gives more balance lets say between the two signs
(10:01:03) (@host-Lynn) maybe
(10:01:10) (@host-Lynn) many factors figure in to any chart
(10:01:17) (@host-Lynn) It really is interrelated
(10:01:45) (@host-Lynn) Next week I expect to get into the signs archetypes
(10:02:01) (@host-Lynn) and to show how the sun sign can be almost obscured
(10:02:10) (@host-Lynn) Me, astrologers guess me Leo.
(10:02:12) (@host-Lynn) not so
(10:02:20) (@host-Lynn) I only have Pluto in Leo
(10:02:29) (~WalksInSpirit) Great chat, Lynn!
(10:02:37) (@host-Lynn) Thank you, WIS
(10:02:47) (@host-Lynn) I need more practice with posting. I will practice
(10:02:58) (@host-Lynn) My arrow keeps getting lost
(10:03:02) (@host-Lynn) hide and seek lol
(10:03:40) (@host-Lynn) Merri you seem to be quite knowledgeable about astrology.
(10:03:56) (@host-Lynn) Perhaps it helps that your specialty dreams are also symbols usually
(10:04:00) (merri) I got all my old charts out and was looking thru them the other day
(10:04:13) (@host-Lynn) What did you find?
(10:04:22) (merri) I have 3 done by different people
(10:04:33) (merri) over 25yrs ago
(10:04:42) (@host-Lynn) Were they done on the computer as far as drawing up the horoscope?
(10:05:05) (merri) 2 were but the very first one wasn't
(10:05:05) (@host-Lynn) Might have a lot of errors. Math is tricky. It all used to have to be done by person making mistakes.
(10:05:17) (@host-Lynn) I will not do a chart unless it is off of the computer.
(10:05:46) (merri) it was interesting reading
(10:05:46) (@host-Lynn) I had one lady, she had three charts. Each had a different rising sign. I said get computer chart or no reading from me. LOL
(10:06:07) (merri) alot was very on the mark
(10:06:07) (@host-Lynn) I´ll bet
(10:06:13) (@host-Lynn) good
(10:06:29) (merri) but there were several places that were far off
(10:06:35) (@host-Lynn) Every chart I look at seems to have a theme I look for problem and solution
(10:07:06) (@host-Lynn) I don´t use it for fortune telling. The person has free will. If he understands power available to him, he can use his free will.
(10:07:15) (merri) something to do with what house Mercury is in
(10:07:18) (@host-Lynn) That´s how I believe in using a chart. It is a map of power
(10:07:45) (@host-Lynn) That could be a strong power source or disadvantage. What are the aspects_
(10:08:06) (@host-Lynn) Do Venus and Mars get along together? How does Mercury feel about Saturn? Etc
(10:08:30) (@host-Lynn) I see a horoscope as a map of relationships between planets
(10:08:30) (merri) LOL I'll have to read up on that
(10:08:59) (@host-Lynn) I think each astrologer has his own approach. Mine is, I want something that can be applied and used .
(10:09:10) (@host-Lynn) I want to help make a difference for people in their lives.
(10:09:15) (merri) I agree
(10:09:33) (@host-Lynn) That´s why I get into archetypes. LOL
(10:09:37) (merri) one other question
(10:09:51) (@host-Lynn) Roger Bacon said Knowledge is Power
(10:10:05) (@host-Lynn) Knowledge is available but not a fortune cookie is the way I feel
(10:10:52) (merri) what would be in one's chart (this was in two of the charts) that would give the warning to "stay away from all weapons, such as guns?"
(10:10:54) (@host-Lynn) I´d love to hear your other question
(10:11:08) (@host-Lynn) probably Mars
(10:11:29) (@host-Lynn) Is it near the eighth house, does it rule the eighth house or what?
(10:11:54) (@host-Lynn) There are also other factors that could be a warning
(10:12:24) (@host-Lynn) For instance if Mars and Pluto don´t like each other and fight with Mercury, that could be a problem
(10:12:30) (merri) I'll check and it also warned against violent tendency...I have to be the most non-violent person you would ever meet!
(10:13:01) (@host-Lynn) That makes sense. Why are you so non violent? I love it. But why is one of many questions.
(10:16:52) (@host-Lynn) I look at a chart for the problems and the answers. I always seem to find a major life theme.
(10:17:06) (@host-Lynn) The chart is to be used if you want to use it.
(10:18:08) (merri) As Cayce said astrology, numerology, etc. are tools
(10:18:14) (@host-Lynn) Take my Venus in Scorpio, please take it! I don´t want it! LOL but Libra which is Venus sign has mercury )intelligence) and mars )strength) and some others. I´m ok with Libra
(10:18:21) (@host-Lynn) Exactly
(10:18:40) (@host-Lynn) Mr. Cayce says what I say. Or is it the other way around. LOL I say what Cayce says.
(10:18:57) (@host-Lynn) Also, astrology is simply a tool to convey psychic information
(10:19:12) (merri) that is how I have always viewed them
(10:19:19) (@host-Lynn) It is a tool, a map. It is to be looked to for discovering your power. It does not tell your future, I think
(10:19:29) (@host-Lynn) I also use numerology sometimes
(10:19:37) (vjh) What do you think Pluto does, its main effect?
(10:19:39) (@host-Lynn) They are all tools given for our use.
(10:19:58) (@host-Lynn) Pluto deals with the dark side.
(10:20:05) (@host-Lynn) The dark side is also important.
(10:20:12) (merri) that is one HUGE planet!
(10:20:19) (@host-Lynn) If Jesus had not been tortured on the cross we would not have salvation.
(10:20:24) (@host-Lynn) That is my take on it.
(10:20:37) (@host-Lynn) If the dark is understood, the light is turned on, and it is no longer dark.
(10:20:41) (vjh) People who have it on the ascendant are very intuitive though.
(10:21:15) (@host-Lynn) So is Pisces,
(10:21:39) (@host-Lynn) Do you like Pluto, vjh. I do.
(10:21:43) (@host-Lynn) I am Scorpio.
(10:22:30) (vjh) I don't know. Pluto seems to have power and causes extremes.
(10:23:04) (@host-Lynn) Pluto is dangerous but if the power is directed Pluto gives resurrection power.
(10:23:28) (@host-Lynn) All power is dangerous if you are not responsible and careful with it.
(10:23:50) (vjh) Well, John F. Kennedy had Pluto conjunct with the moon and he was woman crazy.
(10:24:04) (vjh) It seems like Pluto causes obsessions.
(10:24:11) (@host-Lynn) What man isn´t? Except the good guys we know, of course.
(10:24:35) (vjh) I know someone who had Pluto opposing Venus and he ran around with so many different women I'm surprised he knew all the names.p
(10:24:45) (@host-Lynn) Pluto causes nothing. We allow. We are ignorant. We need knowleddge to make good decisions. At least many of the we do.
(10:26:15) (@host-Lynn) We cannot blame the planets. Why give away our power? LIke I said about my daughter, who is Scorpio, she could have died an addict in an alley. She is a fine young woman doing much good as a counselor. She chose. Pluto did not choose. Michelle chose
(10:26:43) (Alec-) yes
(10:26:56) (@host-Lynn) I know I can have real problems with my Venus in Pluto. Boy could I!! I choose Virgo rising.
(10:27:03) (@host-Lynn) I choose to serve.
(10:27:52) (@host-Lynn) vjh, do you know where your Pluto is. It´s a place to be careful but power can be used to serve.
(10:28:26) (vjh) It's conjunct Saturn in Leo. And I have a Capricorn ascendent. It makes me melancholy.
(10:29:06) (@host-Lynn) No, it does not make you melancholy. You are pulling on it if you want. Where is Venus? Where is Mercury?
(10:29:27) (@host-Lynn) Venus is your love. Mercury is your intelligence.
(10:29:30) (merlin) what is january 9 1947 ascendant?
(10:29:52) (vjh) Venus and Mars are conjunct in 29 Scorpio and 0 Sag. Mercury is 5 Sag and the draagontail is 13 Sag.4
(10:31:17) (@host-Lynn) Honey, you have a LOT of power to love if you want to use it. You also have resurrection power.
(10:31:41) (@host-Lynn) You are a seeker.
(10:32:10) (@host-Lynn) And you will not stop until you find the spiritual answers you are looking for. You are also frequently misunderstood. LOL
(10:32:36) (@host-Lynn) Hang in there. Your greatest success can come, of course, from helping others. You could help people resurrect.