Post by WalksInSpirit on Sept 10, 2006 16:56:23 GMT -5
Saturday Night Chat: 09-09-06
The Great Migration: Part Three: "The Golden Age Of The Mayas"
(09:35:46) (Host-Blu) I think it's time to start!
(09:36:28) (Host-Blu) I will open with prayer.
(09:37:12) (Host-Blu) Heavenly Father, we thank you for all of your Blessings. We seek to know you more and more. Let us all be a channel of blessings to others and please Heal Roz's Knee! Amen
(09:37:21) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:37:31) (merri) Amen
(09:37:36) (Cris) Amen
(09:37:49) (Frank) Hello everyone. Amen.
(09:37:57) (Roz) Amen
(09:38:08) (gilly) amen
(09:40:01) (Host-WalksInSpirit) If yall have any questions, comments, want to stop for discussion of points, please stop me at any time during the chat!
(09:40:14) (Host-WalksInSpirit) :-)
(09:40:48) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Part Three:
(09:40:48) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The Golden Age Of The Mayas
(09:41:03) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The most marked example of Atlantean culture, as super imposed upon that of an intelligent but less advanced earlier population, is found in Mexico, on the peninsula of Yucatan.
(09:41:23) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Much archeological work had been done there in the past, and is continuing in the present, with the hope of eventually solving the mystery of the Mayas, whose Golden Age was, in its way, comparable to that of Greece.
(09:41:38) (Host-WalksInSpirit) When asked to comment on the Mayan culture, its origin and development, Edgar Cayce gave a long and comprehensive discourse, reaching back almost 12,600 years. Portions of the reading follow:
(09:42:27) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “In giving a record of the civilization in this particular portion of the world, it should be remembered that more than one has been and will be found as research progresses…
(09:42:43) (Host-WalksInSpirit) From time as counted in the present we would turn back to 10,600 years before the Prince of Peace came into the land of promise, and find a civilization being disturbed by corruption from within to such measures that the elements join in bringing devastation to a stiff-necked and adulterous people.
(09:42:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) With the second and third upheavals in Atlantis, there were individuals who left those lands and came to this particular portion then visible. But, understand, the surface was quite different from that which would be viewed in the present. For, rather than being a tropical area it was more of the temperate, and quite varied in the conditions and positions of the face of the areas themselves.
(09:43:18) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Then, with the leavings of the civilization in Atlantis (in Poseidia, more specific), Iltar - with a group of followers that had been of the household of Atlan, the followers of the worship of the ONE with some ten individuals - left this land Poseidia, and came westward, entering what would now be a portion of Yucatan.
(09:43:48) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And there began, with the activities of the peoples there, the development into a civilization that rose much in the same matter as that which had been in the Atlantean land. Others had left the land later. Others had left earlier. There had been the upheavals also from the land of Mu, or Lemuria, and these had their part in the changing, or there was the injection of their tenets in the varied portions of the land -
(09:44:08) (Host-WalksInSpirit) which was much greater in extent until the final upheaval of Atlantis, or the islands that were later upheaved, when much of the contour of the land in Central America and Mexico was changed to that similar in outline to that which may be seen in the present.” - Edgar Cayce Reading 5750-1
(09:44:31) (Host-WalksInSpirit) According to the Troana Manuscripts, the peninsula of Yucatan was anciently known as Mayax. This included the entire empire of the Mayas, from the isthmus of Darien to the south, to the Tehuantepec country to the north.
(09:44:47) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Since both lost continents, Mu and Atlantis, had set up colonies in other parts of the then known world prior to their final catastrophes, an extensive mixing of peoples was to have been expected, and so it seems to have come about in Yucatan.
(09:46:10) (Host-WalksInSpirit) (Now, we will be posting websites - for further study - throughout tonight's chat. Don't worry about writing these addresses down. They will be included as clickable hyperlinks in tonight's chat transcript posted on Red Path at the end of chat tonight.)
(09:46:35) (Host-WalksInSpirit) (Here’s a page with photos of a temple pyramid in Teotihuacan: www.anthroarcheart.org/tblv93.htm This structure is said to be the largest ancient man-made structure on Earth.)
(09:47:49) (Host-WalksInSpirit) An inscription on an Uxmal temple declares that the edifice was dedicated to the memory of Mu, "the lands to the west, that land of Kui, the birth place of our sacred mysteries." The temple faces west, in the direction of the vanished continent of Mu.
(09:48:10) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Reading 5750-1, tells us that continuing archeological research in that area will uncover secrets long hidden by jungle growth and will reveal the combination of cultures.
(09:48:27) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “Hence, these places partook of the earlier portions of that peoples called the Incal; though the Incals were themselves the successors of those of Oz, or Og, in the Peruvian land, and Mu in the southern portions of that now called California and Mexico and southern New Mexico in the United States.” - Edgar Cayce Reading 5750-1
(09:48:49) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The Cayce Readings refer to great ruins that lie beneath the buildings of Mexico City, and speculated that they would probably never be seen by people of this era. In Yucatan, they said, ruins that partake of the Egyptian, Lemurians and Oz civilizations, as well as those of a later Mosaic influence, were to be found.
(09:49:37) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Asked what specific thing might be designated as being a portion of the varied civilizations - one thing in common - Mr. Cayce gave an esoteric explanation, more mystifying that clarifying to the average reader, but exceedingly interesting.
(09:49:54) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “The stones that are circular, that were of the magnetized influence upon which the Spirit of the One spoke to those peoples as they gathered in their service, are of the earliest Atlantean activities in religious service, we would be called today.
(09:50:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The altars upon which there were the cleansings of the bodies of individuals (not human sacrifice; for this came much later with the injection of the Mosaic, and those activities of that area), these were later the altars upon which individual activities - that would today be termed hate, malice, selfishness, self-indulgence -
(09:50:16) (ron) wow
(09:50:26) (Host-WalksInSpirit) were cleansed from the body through the ceremony, through the rise of initiates from the sources of light, that came from the stones upon which the angels of light during the periods gave their expression to the peoples.
(09:51:05) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The pyramid, the altars before the doors of the varied temple activities, was an injection from the people of Oz and Mu; and will be found to be separate portions, and that referred to in the Scripture as high places of family altars, family gods, that in many portions of the world became again the injection into the activities of groups in various portions,
(09:51:17) (Host-WalksInSpirit) as gradually there were the turnings of the people to the satisfying and gratifying of self's desires, or as the Baal or Baalilal activities again entered the peoples respecting their associations with those truths of light that came from the gods to the peoples, to mankind, in the earth.” - Edgar Cayce Reading 5750-1
(09:51:37) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Edward Herbert Thompson, who was United States consul in Yucatan for 24 years, was a prominent supporter of the theory of Atlantean occupation. Very much interested in archeology, he spent the greater part of is time exploring and recording the numerous ruins of the Yucatan peninsula. He was convinced that the Mayas were immigrants from the submerged cotenant Atlantis.
(09:51:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Unlike the modern Mayas, the Pre-Mayas or Early Mayas left no documentary sources and only fragmentary traditions of their first history. From what is known, they were apparently a simple peace-loving, religious people, worshipers of the One God. Although they had a number of lesser gods, called Bacabs, their supreme Deity and creator of the world was a god named Hunab Ku, meaning One God.
(09:52:27) (Host-WalksInSpirit) One of Thompson's many interesting archeological "finds" was the great stone monolith, banded with hieroglyphs, that nearly cost him his life. A helper had discovered a half-buried "talking stone" and Thompson set out with the Indian to see it for himself.
(09:52:43) (Host-WalksInSpirit) He was already burning with a jungle fever that intensified as he helped dig the circular monolith from the earth under which it had lain for centuries.
(09:52:58) (Host-WalksInSpirit) They had succeeded in freeing it from its earthly bonds; had restored a broken section to the sturdily implanted base and Thompson had verified the find by photographing his helper beside the monolith, when his illness overcame him.
(09:53:15) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Blinded and delirious, he was led back to headquarters. The place of the treasure was left unmarked and after many years had not been re-discovered, though the hieroglyphs may have held the key to Mayan history that Thompson had hoped to find.
(09:53:48) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Maya (Maya is a word found in many countries, connotes wisdom and power.) writing inscribed on monuments has been found to record great events in the lives of ancient rulers, but a reliable key to these stone writings has been difficult to establish, since no true alphabet of the Mayas has been determined.
(09:54:16) (Host-WalksInSpirit) W. Scott-Elliot declares that the Mayas, like the early sea-going Phoenicians, had a phonetic alphabet, and LePlongeon, and authority on this subject, wrote that one-third of the Maya tongue was pure Greek. He had, he said, found thirteen letters of the Maya writings that bore a relationship to Egyptian hieroglyphic signs for the same letters.
(09:54:56) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The Middle American writings systems generally used symbols to convey meanings, though some symbols indicated separate syllables.
(09:55:10) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Legends spot-lighting the great culture-bringer Quetzalcoatl, seem to substantiate Thompson's theory that Yucatan had been settled at some ancient time by survivors, or colonists, who came from Atlantis.
(09:55:35) (Host-WalksInSpirit) One story of this powerful individual has Quetzalcoatl coming out of the east in a gleaming ship made of serpent skins - conceivably an Atlantean metal completely unknown to the aboriginal Indians of the peninsula.
(09:55:53) (Host-WalksInSpirit) According to Mayan tradition, this craft came swiftly toward the land at the mouth of what is now known as the Panucho River in the State of Tamaulipas and from it came white-skinned people with fair hair, blue eyes, and flowing beards. The natives were deeply impressed because the strangers wore on their heads emblems that looked to them like entwined serpents.
(09:56:16) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The nations worshiped the Sacred Serpent; therefore they thought these tall white men were gods who had come to teach and guide them.
(09:56:46) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Tamoanchan - "The Place Where The People of The Serpent Landed" - is near Tuxpan in the Tampico district, according to Thompson.
(09:56:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Most famous as Quetzalcoatl, this legendary figure was known by other names as well. He was Kukulcan in the Maya language, Huitzilopochtli in the later Aztec period and Quetzalcoatl in the early Nahua period.
(09:57:13) (Host-WalksInSpirit) He is sometimes pictured as wearing conical hat of ocelot skin, a necklace of seashells, anklets, rattles, and sea foam sandals. He was much larger in frame than the Indians whom he reigned as a culture-hero and a god of learning.
(09:57:32) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Supposedly he was of a compassionate nature, who "could not kill a bear of pick a flower" and was much attached to the Toltecs who were his devoted followers. He taught a religion of love that eventually became corrupted. Harold P. Wilkins was of the opinion that Quetzalcoatl was one of the "men in black" who were pioneer missionaries from the Old Atlantean empire of Hy-Brazil.
(09:58:10) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Perhaps, among other names by which the culture-hero, Quetzalcoatl, was known, was that of the Atlantean Iltar, who brought with him to Yucatan much of the Atlantean technology and who supervised the building of the temples and pyramids whose ruins still amaze and baffle modern viewers.
(09:58:32) (Host-WalksInSpirit) According to Maya tradition there was first the arrival of a few people from the sinking islands, then the arrival of many.
(09:58:46) (Host-WalksInSpirit) One story tells that Quetzalcoatl was many times called back to the land in the east, returning from these journeys with books and art treasures, which he had hid away in secret places, and that during one visit he saw a great building that reached to the skies and held many people speaking different languages.
(09:59:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Eventually, the stories say, the great man left Yucatan promising to return at a later date. This tale led to the downfall of the Aztecs, who saw in the arrival of fair-skinned men of the Spanish Conquest a return of the wise and compassionate Quetzalcoatl.
(09:59:19) (Host-WalksInSpirit) When asked about the temples and pyramids of Iltar Mr. Cayce answered that their construction was made possible by means of a power known to the Atlanteans.
(09:59:36) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “By the lifting forces of those gases that are being used gradually in the present civilization, and by the fine work or activities of those versed in that pertaining to the source from which all power comes…
(09:59:49) (Host-WalksInSpirit) For, as long as there remains those pure in body, in mind, in activity, to the law of the One God, there is the continued resource for meeting the needs, or for commanding the elements and their activities in the supply of that necessary in such relations.” - Edgar Cayce Reading 5750-1
(10:00:10) (Host-WalksInSpirit) When asked about the discovery of these ancient works of Iltar the readings gave the following information:
(10:00:39) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “The first temples that were erected by Iltar and his followers were destroyed at the period of change physically in the contours of the land. That now being found, and a portion already discovered that has laid in waste for many centuries, was then a combination of those peoples from Mu, Oz and Atlantis.”- Edgar Cayce Reading 5750-1
(10:00:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Ian Graham, a British archeologist, is presently heading a jungle search for ancient stones and wall sections, that may reveal through their carvings, some of the secrets of the past. It is his plan to make a photographic collection of Mayan inscriptions for the use for cryptographers.
(10:01:15) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In his opinion, the writings so far discovered do not show either Asiatic or European influence, thus lending further strength to the readings claim that the basis of the Mayan culture was Atlantean.
(10:01:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The Mayan ideographs resemble those of the Chinese in that a basic ideograph can be modified in meaning by the addition of an affix. This detailed study would not have been necessary had the Spanish priest, Bishop Landa, restrained his impulse to burn the extensive bark fiber books of the Maya, after the final conquest of the people.
(10:01:57) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Since writing in the early Americas was rudimentary with the exception of the Mayan, the breaking of the code is especially important and may throw light on Toltec and Aztec cultures as well as the Mayan.
(10:02:16) (Host-WalksInSpirit) One scholar, Irene Nicholson, says that Quetzalcoatl was sometimes identified with Itzamna, the Maya god-above-all, who invented writing and was also credited with giving the Mayas maze and cocoa.
(10:02:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Perhaps Itzamna was Zamna the Moses-like individual, credited also with having led the Lost Tribes over land from the west and by boat from the south portions of the United States.
(10:03:03) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The following readings confirm the great mixing of races:
(10:03:17) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “In the one before this we find in that land now known as the Peruvian, and the entity was then among those who - as a high priestess - led a peoples into a northern land, now known as Yucatan, and the entity was the priestess in the TEMPLE as builded there… In this experience the entity was rather the sun worshiper, and the taker of blood.” - Edgar Cayce Reading 772-2
(10:03:37) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “The entity was among those that rose in power from the associations or connections with those peoples from Atlantis and the natives in the Peruvian lands. And it led towards those activities that were later established in what is now Central America, especially in those temple buildings.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 826-2
(10:04:14) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Before they were forced to flee from their homeland, the Atlanteans had learned to harness the power of the sun.
(10:04:29) (Host-WalksInSpirit) They knew the activity and effects of the morning dew, and had aircraft - floated by gas and made of pachyderm hides. They brought to Yucatan the common knowledge of their advanced civilization, though not their technology, and they were intensely interested in preserving some of their culture and learning, especially the religious tenants of the Law of One God.
(10:04:49) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “The entity [an Atlantean] was a priestess among those who set up a form of activity there; being also then associated with records that were attempted to be preserved from the old order of things in Atlantis.
(10:05:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) We find that the entity established and added to, or detracted from, the circumstance decided upon as the expedient one for the change in clime and in surroundings.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 3590-1
(10:05:21) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “There we find the entity first coming into what was called the Mayan land, or what is now Yucatan.
(10:05:34) (Host-WalksInSpirit) With the establishing of the associations of many of the peoples (in which the entity was closely associated in the Atlantean land) in the Pyrenees and in the Egyptian land, the entity was the first - in that period of experience - to cross the waters in the plane or air machine of that period.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 1710-3
(10:05:54) (Host-WalksInSpirit) One entity was sent to "the land of the Mayan experience" and rose to power, only to reflect his vacillating position between the Law Of One and the Son's of Belial, thus proving to be a disappointment.
(10:06:29) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “Before that we find the entity was in the Atlantean land, during those periods when there were those activities that brought about the last destruction of same through the warrings between the children of the Law of One and the sons of Belial or Bel (?). [Baal] There the entity was among those who waned between the children of faith or the Law of One and those who sought the use of the spiritual forces for their own self-indulgences, self-aggrandizements.
(10:07:05) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The entity was among those, though, who were sent to what later became or is in the present the Yucatan land, of the Mayan experience. There the entity rose to one of power; yet with those very wavering experiences there was not always peace brought to the entity.
(10:07:37) (Host-WalksInSpirit) From same we find the desire oft innate, and manifested in certain directions or ways or means, to produce or allow effects to be produced in the emotions by rote or by odor or by the attempts to raise to the material activity by the expressive force of the mental self.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 1599-1
(10:08:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The accomplished strangers quickly expressed their influence and amazing skill in the building of great and beautiful cities. Atlantean magnificence was shown in their temples and courts, their astute form of government and keeping of records, their knowledge of agriculture, mathematics, astronomy, decorative arts, precious jewels and beautiful textiles.
(10:08:17) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The awe and reverence of the simple people who came under their tutelage must have been considerable.
(10:08:36) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “There we find [in Yucatan] that clothing, and things pertaining to precious jewels, were of special interest to the entity; the decorative art, and this applying to certain characters of textiles also was a portion of the activities. For the entity then, while not the individual in authority, was of the same family; in the name then Tep-k-eux…
(10:08:51) (Host-WalksInSpirit) While disagreements arose among many of those because of the differences in opinions as to the application of the spiritual laws, these the entity brought better in control than most of those through that particular period. ” – Edgar Cayce Reading 1664-2
(10:09:15) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Many of the Atlanteans were priests and priestesses, for they were intensely interested in preserving their religious studies and intricate rituals. Much of their eventual activity, it is said, revolved around the Temple Of The Sun and The Temple Of The Moon, now brought to view after centuries of burial.
(10:09:31) (Host-WalksInSpirit) (Here is a page about the Mayan Temple Of The Sun and Temple Of The Moon: www.crystalinks.com/pyrsun_moon.html )
(10:09:48) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “The entity was among those who were sent as the directors to what became the Yucatan land, and in the setting up of the temple and the temple service, the temple of worship, the temple of differentiation in the laborer and the ruler.
(10:10:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Then in the name Ikunle, the entity made for a great service to a great people; that made for the bringing about of the preservation of much that may some day make for a unifying of the understandings as to the relationships of man to the Creative Forces.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 1426-1
(09:36:28) (Host-Blu) I will open with prayer.
(09:37:12) (Host-Blu) Heavenly Father, we thank you for all of your Blessings. We seek to know you more and more. Let us all be a channel of blessings to others and please Heal Roz's Knee! Amen
(09:37:21) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Nunwe
(09:37:31) (merri) Amen
(09:37:36) (Cris) Amen
(09:37:49) (Frank) Hello everyone. Amen.
(09:37:57) (Roz) Amen
(09:38:08) (gilly) amen
(09:40:01) (Host-WalksInSpirit) If yall have any questions, comments, want to stop for discussion of points, please stop me at any time during the chat!
(09:40:14) (Host-WalksInSpirit) :-)
(09:40:48) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Part Three:
(09:40:48) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The Golden Age Of The Mayas
(09:41:03) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The most marked example of Atlantean culture, as super imposed upon that of an intelligent but less advanced earlier population, is found in Mexico, on the peninsula of Yucatan.
(09:41:23) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Much archeological work had been done there in the past, and is continuing in the present, with the hope of eventually solving the mystery of the Mayas, whose Golden Age was, in its way, comparable to that of Greece.
(09:41:38) (Host-WalksInSpirit) When asked to comment on the Mayan culture, its origin and development, Edgar Cayce gave a long and comprehensive discourse, reaching back almost 12,600 years. Portions of the reading follow:
(09:42:27) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “In giving a record of the civilization in this particular portion of the world, it should be remembered that more than one has been and will be found as research progresses…
(09:42:43) (Host-WalksInSpirit) From time as counted in the present we would turn back to 10,600 years before the Prince of Peace came into the land of promise, and find a civilization being disturbed by corruption from within to such measures that the elements join in bringing devastation to a stiff-necked and adulterous people.
(09:42:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) With the second and third upheavals in Atlantis, there were individuals who left those lands and came to this particular portion then visible. But, understand, the surface was quite different from that which would be viewed in the present. For, rather than being a tropical area it was more of the temperate, and quite varied in the conditions and positions of the face of the areas themselves.
(09:43:18) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Then, with the leavings of the civilization in Atlantis (in Poseidia, more specific), Iltar - with a group of followers that had been of the household of Atlan, the followers of the worship of the ONE with some ten individuals - left this land Poseidia, and came westward, entering what would now be a portion of Yucatan.
(09:43:48) (Host-WalksInSpirit) And there began, with the activities of the peoples there, the development into a civilization that rose much in the same matter as that which had been in the Atlantean land. Others had left the land later. Others had left earlier. There had been the upheavals also from the land of Mu, or Lemuria, and these had their part in the changing, or there was the injection of their tenets in the varied portions of the land -
(09:44:08) (Host-WalksInSpirit) which was much greater in extent until the final upheaval of Atlantis, or the islands that were later upheaved, when much of the contour of the land in Central America and Mexico was changed to that similar in outline to that which may be seen in the present.” - Edgar Cayce Reading 5750-1
(09:44:31) (Host-WalksInSpirit) According to the Troana Manuscripts, the peninsula of Yucatan was anciently known as Mayax. This included the entire empire of the Mayas, from the isthmus of Darien to the south, to the Tehuantepec country to the north.
(09:44:47) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Since both lost continents, Mu and Atlantis, had set up colonies in other parts of the then known world prior to their final catastrophes, an extensive mixing of peoples was to have been expected, and so it seems to have come about in Yucatan.
(09:46:10) (Host-WalksInSpirit) (Now, we will be posting websites - for further study - throughout tonight's chat. Don't worry about writing these addresses down. They will be included as clickable hyperlinks in tonight's chat transcript posted on Red Path at the end of chat tonight.)
(09:46:35) (Host-WalksInSpirit) (Here’s a page with photos of a temple pyramid in Teotihuacan: www.anthroarcheart.org/tblv93.htm This structure is said to be the largest ancient man-made structure on Earth.)
(09:47:49) (Host-WalksInSpirit) An inscription on an Uxmal temple declares that the edifice was dedicated to the memory of Mu, "the lands to the west, that land of Kui, the birth place of our sacred mysteries." The temple faces west, in the direction of the vanished continent of Mu.
(09:48:10) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Reading 5750-1, tells us that continuing archeological research in that area will uncover secrets long hidden by jungle growth and will reveal the combination of cultures.
(09:48:27) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “Hence, these places partook of the earlier portions of that peoples called the Incal; though the Incals were themselves the successors of those of Oz, or Og, in the Peruvian land, and Mu in the southern portions of that now called California and Mexico and southern New Mexico in the United States.” - Edgar Cayce Reading 5750-1
(09:48:49) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The Cayce Readings refer to great ruins that lie beneath the buildings of Mexico City, and speculated that they would probably never be seen by people of this era. In Yucatan, they said, ruins that partake of the Egyptian, Lemurians and Oz civilizations, as well as those of a later Mosaic influence, were to be found.
(09:49:37) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Asked what specific thing might be designated as being a portion of the varied civilizations - one thing in common - Mr. Cayce gave an esoteric explanation, more mystifying that clarifying to the average reader, but exceedingly interesting.
(09:49:54) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “The stones that are circular, that were of the magnetized influence upon which the Spirit of the One spoke to those peoples as they gathered in their service, are of the earliest Atlantean activities in religious service, we would be called today.
(09:50:11) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The altars upon which there were the cleansings of the bodies of individuals (not human sacrifice; for this came much later with the injection of the Mosaic, and those activities of that area), these were later the altars upon which individual activities - that would today be termed hate, malice, selfishness, self-indulgence -
(09:50:16) (ron) wow
(09:50:26) (Host-WalksInSpirit) were cleansed from the body through the ceremony, through the rise of initiates from the sources of light, that came from the stones upon which the angels of light during the periods gave their expression to the peoples.
(09:51:05) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The pyramid, the altars before the doors of the varied temple activities, was an injection from the people of Oz and Mu; and will be found to be separate portions, and that referred to in the Scripture as high places of family altars, family gods, that in many portions of the world became again the injection into the activities of groups in various portions,
(09:51:17) (Host-WalksInSpirit) as gradually there were the turnings of the people to the satisfying and gratifying of self's desires, or as the Baal or Baalilal activities again entered the peoples respecting their associations with those truths of light that came from the gods to the peoples, to mankind, in the earth.” - Edgar Cayce Reading 5750-1
(09:51:37) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Edward Herbert Thompson, who was United States consul in Yucatan for 24 years, was a prominent supporter of the theory of Atlantean occupation. Very much interested in archeology, he spent the greater part of is time exploring and recording the numerous ruins of the Yucatan peninsula. He was convinced that the Mayas were immigrants from the submerged cotenant Atlantis.
(09:51:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Unlike the modern Mayas, the Pre-Mayas or Early Mayas left no documentary sources and only fragmentary traditions of their first history. From what is known, they were apparently a simple peace-loving, religious people, worshipers of the One God. Although they had a number of lesser gods, called Bacabs, their supreme Deity and creator of the world was a god named Hunab Ku, meaning One God.
(09:52:27) (Host-WalksInSpirit) One of Thompson's many interesting archeological "finds" was the great stone monolith, banded with hieroglyphs, that nearly cost him his life. A helper had discovered a half-buried "talking stone" and Thompson set out with the Indian to see it for himself.
(09:52:43) (Host-WalksInSpirit) He was already burning with a jungle fever that intensified as he helped dig the circular monolith from the earth under which it had lain for centuries.
(09:52:58) (Host-WalksInSpirit) They had succeeded in freeing it from its earthly bonds; had restored a broken section to the sturdily implanted base and Thompson had verified the find by photographing his helper beside the monolith, when his illness overcame him.
(09:53:15) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Blinded and delirious, he was led back to headquarters. The place of the treasure was left unmarked and after many years had not been re-discovered, though the hieroglyphs may have held the key to Mayan history that Thompson had hoped to find.
(09:53:48) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Maya (Maya is a word found in many countries, connotes wisdom and power.) writing inscribed on monuments has been found to record great events in the lives of ancient rulers, but a reliable key to these stone writings has been difficult to establish, since no true alphabet of the Mayas has been determined.
(09:54:16) (Host-WalksInSpirit) W. Scott-Elliot declares that the Mayas, like the early sea-going Phoenicians, had a phonetic alphabet, and LePlongeon, and authority on this subject, wrote that one-third of the Maya tongue was pure Greek. He had, he said, found thirteen letters of the Maya writings that bore a relationship to Egyptian hieroglyphic signs for the same letters.
(09:54:56) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The Middle American writings systems generally used symbols to convey meanings, though some symbols indicated separate syllables.
(09:55:10) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Legends spot-lighting the great culture-bringer Quetzalcoatl, seem to substantiate Thompson's theory that Yucatan had been settled at some ancient time by survivors, or colonists, who came from Atlantis.
(09:55:35) (Host-WalksInSpirit) One story of this powerful individual has Quetzalcoatl coming out of the east in a gleaming ship made of serpent skins - conceivably an Atlantean metal completely unknown to the aboriginal Indians of the peninsula.
(09:55:53) (Host-WalksInSpirit) According to Mayan tradition, this craft came swiftly toward the land at the mouth of what is now known as the Panucho River in the State of Tamaulipas and from it came white-skinned people with fair hair, blue eyes, and flowing beards. The natives were deeply impressed because the strangers wore on their heads emblems that looked to them like entwined serpents.
(09:56:16) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The nations worshiped the Sacred Serpent; therefore they thought these tall white men were gods who had come to teach and guide them.
(09:56:46) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Tamoanchan - "The Place Where The People of The Serpent Landed" - is near Tuxpan in the Tampico district, according to Thompson.
(09:56:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Most famous as Quetzalcoatl, this legendary figure was known by other names as well. He was Kukulcan in the Maya language, Huitzilopochtli in the later Aztec period and Quetzalcoatl in the early Nahua period.
(09:57:13) (Host-WalksInSpirit) He is sometimes pictured as wearing conical hat of ocelot skin, a necklace of seashells, anklets, rattles, and sea foam sandals. He was much larger in frame than the Indians whom he reigned as a culture-hero and a god of learning.
(09:57:32) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Supposedly he was of a compassionate nature, who "could not kill a bear of pick a flower" and was much attached to the Toltecs who were his devoted followers. He taught a religion of love that eventually became corrupted. Harold P. Wilkins was of the opinion that Quetzalcoatl was one of the "men in black" who were pioneer missionaries from the Old Atlantean empire of Hy-Brazil.
(09:58:10) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Perhaps, among other names by which the culture-hero, Quetzalcoatl, was known, was that of the Atlantean Iltar, who brought with him to Yucatan much of the Atlantean technology and who supervised the building of the temples and pyramids whose ruins still amaze and baffle modern viewers.
(09:58:32) (Host-WalksInSpirit) According to Maya tradition there was first the arrival of a few people from the sinking islands, then the arrival of many.
(09:58:46) (Host-WalksInSpirit) One story tells that Quetzalcoatl was many times called back to the land in the east, returning from these journeys with books and art treasures, which he had hid away in secret places, and that during one visit he saw a great building that reached to the skies and held many people speaking different languages.
(09:59:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Eventually, the stories say, the great man left Yucatan promising to return at a later date. This tale led to the downfall of the Aztecs, who saw in the arrival of fair-skinned men of the Spanish Conquest a return of the wise and compassionate Quetzalcoatl.
(09:59:19) (Host-WalksInSpirit) When asked about the temples and pyramids of Iltar Mr. Cayce answered that their construction was made possible by means of a power known to the Atlanteans.
(09:59:36) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “By the lifting forces of those gases that are being used gradually in the present civilization, and by the fine work or activities of those versed in that pertaining to the source from which all power comes…
(09:59:49) (Host-WalksInSpirit) For, as long as there remains those pure in body, in mind, in activity, to the law of the One God, there is the continued resource for meeting the needs, or for commanding the elements and their activities in the supply of that necessary in such relations.” - Edgar Cayce Reading 5750-1
(10:00:10) (Host-WalksInSpirit) When asked about the discovery of these ancient works of Iltar the readings gave the following information:
(10:00:39) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “The first temples that were erected by Iltar and his followers were destroyed at the period of change physically in the contours of the land. That now being found, and a portion already discovered that has laid in waste for many centuries, was then a combination of those peoples from Mu, Oz and Atlantis.”- Edgar Cayce Reading 5750-1
(10:00:59) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Ian Graham, a British archeologist, is presently heading a jungle search for ancient stones and wall sections, that may reveal through their carvings, some of the secrets of the past. It is his plan to make a photographic collection of Mayan inscriptions for the use for cryptographers.
(10:01:15) (Host-WalksInSpirit) In his opinion, the writings so far discovered do not show either Asiatic or European influence, thus lending further strength to the readings claim that the basis of the Mayan culture was Atlantean.
(10:01:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The Mayan ideographs resemble those of the Chinese in that a basic ideograph can be modified in meaning by the addition of an affix. This detailed study would not have been necessary had the Spanish priest, Bishop Landa, restrained his impulse to burn the extensive bark fiber books of the Maya, after the final conquest of the people.
(10:01:57) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Since writing in the early Americas was rudimentary with the exception of the Mayan, the breaking of the code is especially important and may throw light on Toltec and Aztec cultures as well as the Mayan.
(10:02:16) (Host-WalksInSpirit) One scholar, Irene Nicholson, says that Quetzalcoatl was sometimes identified with Itzamna, the Maya god-above-all, who invented writing and was also credited with giving the Mayas maze and cocoa.
(10:02:41) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Perhaps Itzamna was Zamna the Moses-like individual, credited also with having led the Lost Tribes over land from the west and by boat from the south portions of the United States.
(10:03:03) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The following readings confirm the great mixing of races:
(10:03:17) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “In the one before this we find in that land now known as the Peruvian, and the entity was then among those who - as a high priestess - led a peoples into a northern land, now known as Yucatan, and the entity was the priestess in the TEMPLE as builded there… In this experience the entity was rather the sun worshiper, and the taker of blood.” - Edgar Cayce Reading 772-2
(10:03:37) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “The entity was among those that rose in power from the associations or connections with those peoples from Atlantis and the natives in the Peruvian lands. And it led towards those activities that were later established in what is now Central America, especially in those temple buildings.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 826-2
(10:04:14) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Before they were forced to flee from their homeland, the Atlanteans had learned to harness the power of the sun.
(10:04:29) (Host-WalksInSpirit) They knew the activity and effects of the morning dew, and had aircraft - floated by gas and made of pachyderm hides. They brought to Yucatan the common knowledge of their advanced civilization, though not their technology, and they were intensely interested in preserving some of their culture and learning, especially the religious tenants of the Law of One God.
(10:04:49) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “The entity [an Atlantean] was a priestess among those who set up a form of activity there; being also then associated with records that were attempted to be preserved from the old order of things in Atlantis.
(10:05:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) We find that the entity established and added to, or detracted from, the circumstance decided upon as the expedient one for the change in clime and in surroundings.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 3590-1
(10:05:21) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “There we find the entity first coming into what was called the Mayan land, or what is now Yucatan.
(10:05:34) (Host-WalksInSpirit) With the establishing of the associations of many of the peoples (in which the entity was closely associated in the Atlantean land) in the Pyrenees and in the Egyptian land, the entity was the first - in that period of experience - to cross the waters in the plane or air machine of that period.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 1710-3
(10:05:54) (Host-WalksInSpirit) One entity was sent to "the land of the Mayan experience" and rose to power, only to reflect his vacillating position between the Law Of One and the Son's of Belial, thus proving to be a disappointment.
(10:06:29) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “Before that we find the entity was in the Atlantean land, during those periods when there were those activities that brought about the last destruction of same through the warrings between the children of the Law of One and the sons of Belial or Bel (?). [Baal] There the entity was among those who waned between the children of faith or the Law of One and those who sought the use of the spiritual forces for their own self-indulgences, self-aggrandizements.
(10:07:05) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The entity was among those, though, who were sent to what later became or is in the present the Yucatan land, of the Mayan experience. There the entity rose to one of power; yet with those very wavering experiences there was not always peace brought to the entity.
(10:07:37) (Host-WalksInSpirit) From same we find the desire oft innate, and manifested in certain directions or ways or means, to produce or allow effects to be produced in the emotions by rote or by odor or by the attempts to raise to the material activity by the expressive force of the mental self.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 1599-1
(10:08:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The accomplished strangers quickly expressed their influence and amazing skill in the building of great and beautiful cities. Atlantean magnificence was shown in their temples and courts, their astute form of government and keeping of records, their knowledge of agriculture, mathematics, astronomy, decorative arts, precious jewels and beautiful textiles.
(10:08:17) (Host-WalksInSpirit) The awe and reverence of the simple people who came under their tutelage must have been considerable.
(10:08:36) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “There we find [in Yucatan] that clothing, and things pertaining to precious jewels, were of special interest to the entity; the decorative art, and this applying to certain characters of textiles also was a portion of the activities. For the entity then, while not the individual in authority, was of the same family; in the name then Tep-k-eux…
(10:08:51) (Host-WalksInSpirit) While disagreements arose among many of those because of the differences in opinions as to the application of the spiritual laws, these the entity brought better in control than most of those through that particular period. ” – Edgar Cayce Reading 1664-2
(10:09:15) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Many of the Atlanteans were priests and priestesses, for they were intensely interested in preserving their religious studies and intricate rituals. Much of their eventual activity, it is said, revolved around the Temple Of The Sun and The Temple Of The Moon, now brought to view after centuries of burial.
(10:09:31) (Host-WalksInSpirit) (Here is a page about the Mayan Temple Of The Sun and Temple Of The Moon: www.crystalinks.com/pyrsun_moon.html )
(10:09:48) (Host-WalksInSpirit) “The entity was among those who were sent as the directors to what became the Yucatan land, and in the setting up of the temple and the temple service, the temple of worship, the temple of differentiation in the laborer and the ruler.
(10:10:02) (Host-WalksInSpirit) Then in the name Ikunle, the entity made for a great service to a great people; that made for the bringing about of the preservation of much that may some day make for a unifying of the understandings as to the relationships of man to the Creative Forces.” – Edgar Cayce Reading 1426-1
