Wednesday Night Chat: 12-12-07

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Wednesday Night Chat: 12-12-07

(09:05:08) (@autogreeter) Good Evening. The Red Path Chat Room welcomes you to Wednesday Night Chat, Hosted By Ron. Transcripts of Wednesday Night Chat, Hosted By Ron can be found here: redpath.proboards24.com/index.cgi?board=numerology

(09:25:29) (@ron1) Early astrology/astrologers, assigned each country a sign of the zodiac in order to identify it. This is usually done by the help of intuition and observations.

(09:26:43) (@ron1) This is why the Wise Men/astrologers/etc, knew what and where this bright conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn pertained to.

(09:26:57) (@cris7) That's interesting Ron

(09:27:08) (@ron1) That is, the meaning and country.

(09:27:47) (@ron1) Jupiter is the symbol of kingship...of royalty

(09:28:11) (@ron1) Saturn is the star of Isreal...precisely, of Judah.

(09:29:11) (@ron1) Mars entered Pisces at the time of Jesus' birth, so the Wise Men warned the Holy Family.

(09:29:40) (@ron1) Mars, is a planetary sign, or warning...Mars is the god of war, of madness.

(09:30:27) (@ron1) Jewish astro tradition connects the birth of the Messiah with the conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn, in the sign of Pisces...

(09:30:45) (@ron1) Pisces is regarded as the constellation of the Jews.

(09:31:18) (@ron1) Thus, Saturn = the planet of the Jews, and Jupiter, the planet of Royalty

(09:31:50) (@ron1) Jupiter, thus is regarded as the star of the Messiah...

(09:33:38) (@ron1) ...and regarding its conjunction...the coming together of two planets...also a symbol of the beginning of a new cycle...this conjunction with Saturn symbolized the giving of Royal Power from the Most High to His Son, the New King.

(09:34:26) (@ron1) Jupiter in Hebrew is Sedheq, defined as Justice, refers to the Messiah

(09:35:08) (@ron1) "Whom has Sedheq stirred up from the east?" ...Isaiah 41:2

(09:35:29) (@ron1) Do you guys find this interesting?

(09:35:45) (@ron1) Should I continue? ...I put this together this afternoon

(09:35:58) (maybelle) sure please do

(09:36:39) (@ron1) Now, we can look into the constellation Orion...

(09:36:50) (@cris7) YesYes

(09:37:11) (@cris7) Computer is acting up tonight

(09:37:24) (@cris7) It didn't show me typing the first time

(09:37:36) (@ron1) We can take a look at the three stars in Orion's belt.

(09:38:27) (@ron1) The three pyramids in Egypt are positioned to replicate the three stars in Orion's belt

(09:39:22) (@ron1) The three stars also represent the Great Pyramid's construction at 10,400 BC

(09:39:47) (@ron1) As given in the Cayce readings...

(09:41:08) (@ron1) Cayce said, the Atlaneans came to Egypt in order to preserve their records.

(09:41:41) (@ron1) And that the air shafts within the Great Pyramid gives us clues...

(09:42:42) (@ron1) One shaft in the King's Chamber points at the North Star Thuban [at construction], symbolizing the destiny of being reborn again

(09:43:08) (@ron1) Thuban was the North Star at that time...now, it is Polaris

(09:43:49) (@ron1) The other shaft points at Orion's belt [the King and Queen's chambers have two shafts in each

(09:44:48) (@ron1) ....this 2nd shaft pointing at Orion's belt, symbolizing a destiny of mankind of going back to the point of origin...

(09:45:07) (@ron1) suggesting, our point of origin...

(09:45:37) (@ron1) The ancients knew that life on earth was mirrored in the sky, as is found in Spiritual Astrology.

(09:45:42) (@cris7) Maybe we were seeded in this planet...

(09:46:13) (maybelle) we could be aliens

(09:46:43) (@cris7) natives now

(09:47:13) (@ron1) The Bible shows us an historical and another prophetic

(09:47:35) (@ron1) indications of earthly life...

(09:47:55) (@ron1) And that view is found in the life of Jesus...

(09:48:57) (@ron1) Such as the historical story of Jesus' baptism by John the Baptist taking place January 6th 26 AD

(09:49:46) (@ron1) The Sun was found in the sign of Capricorn, and in the outstretched hand of the angel of Aquarius...

(09:50:00) (@ron1) How am I doing? ...confusing you yet with my writing?

(09:50:18) (@ron1) I didn't have the time

(09:50:30) (@ron1) to fix things up first

(09:50:32) (@cris7) You are doing fine Ron

(09:50:44) (maybelle) yup fine

(09:51:38) (@ron1) To continue, Capricorn represent the sacrifice of the Ram/goat/Lamb, and Aquarius is the Water Bearer...

(09:52:24) (@ron1) The hand of the Aquarian angel = what is being given to humanity...the birth and sacrifice, and the Message...

(09:53:30) (@ron1) The Crucifixion planetary alignment took place 29 AD while the Sun was in Aries, the sacrificed Ram.

(09:54:35) (@ron1) the Resurrection just before dawn, the Sun rose just after the Ram, was seen on the eastern horizon. And directly overhead was the Northern Cross constellation.

(09:55:12) (@ron1) Forty days later, time of the Ascension, the Sun was exactly over the hand of Orion.

(09:55:35) (@ron1) Are you finding this astrological stuff interesting yet?

(09:55:46) (@cris7) Yes

(09:55:47) (maybelle) getting there

(09:56:26) (@ron1) I'm reading from my hand written notes and sometimes they don't make sense to me...

(09:56:42) (@ron1) Almost thru

(09:57:12) (@ron1) There are points in the sky where the ecliptic, the pathway of the Sun, crosses over the plane of the Milky Way.

(09:57:35) (@ron1) The ancients called these points "portals", or "gates."

(09:58:16) (@ron1) One of these portals was just above Orion, between Gemini and Taurus...just over Orion's outstretched hand.

(09:58:31) (@cris7) They may be for other worldly travelers

(09:58:33) (@ron1) The other portal was in Sagittarius above Scorpio.

(09:59:12) (@ron1) This suggests reincarnation...souls going in and out of these portals...

(10:00:08) (@ron1) Much of these representations are based partly on the backward movement of the zodiac. This is caused by the earth's wobble, and what is called "precession of the equinox"

(10:00:59) (@ron1) This wobble and backward movement produces the 25,800 years cycle, known as the Great Ages...

(10:01:26) (@ron1) When this Great Age is divided in 12 parts, we have the 12 signs of the zodiac

(10:01:58) (@ron1) Each of these Ages has 2160 years.

(10:02:19) (@ron1) At the end of the Great Cycle, it starts all over again...

(10:02:45) (@ron1) Right now the Sun at the summer solstice is positioned exactly at one of these portals...

(10:03:09) (@ron1) this means that the Sun is positioned exactly over the hand of Orion...

(10:03:45) (@ron1) Some astrologers feel this is an indication signifying the "end of days"

(10:04:18) (@ron1) Also, the belt of Orion is rising on the equator, and some consider this to be another indication symbolic of the "end of days"

(10:05:03) (@ron1) Cayce said that just prior to 10,000 BC, a group of 10 Atlanteans led by Iltar went to Yucatan Mexical.

(10:05:24) (@ron1) They constructed a temple similar to giza, to preserve their records of Atlantis.

(10:06:15) (@cris7) Instead of an ending couldn't this be ushering in a new age or way of thinking?

(10:06:37) (@ron1) By the way, 10 years ago, in the Queen's Chamber of the Great Pyramid, a small door was discovered, and another behind it, in a shaft...

(10:07:40) (@ron1) And now, in the 2nd air shaft in the Queen's Chamber, they discovered another shaft...

(10:08:02) (@ron1) This mystery of what is behind them has not been revealed as yet.

(10:08:37) (@ron1) Today, we are exactly at the half-cycle point in the 25,800 year precession of the equinoxes...

(10:09:44) (@ron1) One portal is up and the other is down...meanings have not been speculated at this time

(10:10:10) (maybelle) very intriguing

(10:10:37) (@cris7) Too bad that structure can't be sonogrammed

(10:10:40) (@ron1) I stopped here before my long trip back to the birth of Jesus...work not finished...maybe I'll have it all together better written

(10:10:55) (@cris7) I'd like to see that in person

(10:11:12) (maybelle) yes im sure it would be very interesting

(10:11:56) (@ron1) I always wanted to go and enter the Great Pyramid...I even felt I was there during its construction during the time when Cayce was there...and maybe when the one name Thoth was there...who knows

(10:12:13) (@ron1) I have always been interested in the Sphinx and G. Pyramid

(10:12:43) (maybelle) well, why don't you go over there and seem them in person?

(10:12:59) (@cris7) Ron you probably were there

(10:13:04) (maybelle) ARE has tours each year you know

(10:13:21) (@ron1) Well, the Middle East is in turmoil and not a safe place to visit...

(10:13:42) (@cris7) One day you will get a chance

(10:13:51) (@ron1) Maybe in another place and in another time, perhaps

(10:15:13) (@ron1) Here is something else...I really haven't had enough time to look it over...

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(10:15:19) (@ron1) THE SECOND COMING by Sean Stubblefield

(10:15:33) (@ron1) WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ASTROLOGY MERGES WITH ASTRONOMY?

(10:15:53) (@ron1) The Zodiac derives from the yearly path Sol (our sun) seemingly takes across particular constellations, which is why there are twelve astrological signs. Or, at least, there were 12...

(10:16:23) (@ron1) when the Zodiac was created a few thousand years ago. In the solar cycle, there are 12 months, but the lunar cycle has 13. The Mayans recognized 13 star signs. 13 was significant in ancient Celtic society, considered sacred as they revered the feminine and therefore the lunar cycle and Luna (our Moon).

(10:17:11) (@ron1) The Sun is a masculine symbol; the Moon, feminine. So our male dominated society elevates and operates by the Sun. For habit and convenience, twelve` signs of the Zodiac (Western or Chinese) have been accepted and perpetuated as constant and unchanging.

(10:17:41) (@ron1) But since the impact of a 26,000 year long wobble called "precession" has caused Earth"s orientation to gradually shift slightly, THE SUN passes over a thirteenth constellation between Scorpio and Sagittarius - from November 30 to December 17: Ophiuchus (The Serpent Bearer/Holder).

(10:18:23) (@ron1) Times are changing...the signs are here...especially for those that are seeking...

(10:18:45) (@ron1) Technically, this makes Ophiuchus the twelfth sign, and Sagittarius the thirteenth.

(10:18:59) (@ron1) [but, I read that the sign of Scorpio is leaving...there is only a small portion of the sign the ecliptic is passing...if I remember correctly...Another thing, we have 12 disciples + Jesus = 13. So, the missing messiah, or the second coming = Ophiuchus[?]...ron ]

(10:19:43) (@ron1) Consequently, this alteration of the cycle inevitably skews astrological alignment and thus its influences on and application to us; as well as variances in the ebb and flow of cosmic energies, electromagnetic and gravitational forces we are exposed to.

(10:20:10) (@ron1) Metaphorically, could the appearance of snake wielding Ophiuchus in our sky be an auspicious omen, denoting an imminent and unfolding transitional time of healing and enlightenment? Maybe this represents the prophesied return of Christ?

(10:20:38) (@ron1) Despite Christianity's negative associations, the snake or serpent has long been a symbol of knowledge, wisdom and healing in the religious and occult traditions of many cultures; especially ancient societies.

(10:20:59) (@ron1) The Dragon, Ouroboros, Asclepius and Caduceus iconography prominent among them. But even the Biblical serpent can be interpreted positively as a harbinger of awareness or consciousness.

(10:21:25) (@ron1) Ophiuchus, an alias or equivalent of Aesclepius, is the Greek god of healing. Supposedly based on a real person, he was responsible for allegedly resurrecting the dead with his medical skill through a myth involving insight from a serpent.

(10:21:54) (@ron1) It is said that Asclepius accomplished this feat with an herb that he witnessed a serpent using to revive another serpent that Asclepius had killed with his staff.

(10:22:14) (@ron1) Hence, the Asclepius icon (staff wrapped with single snake) and then later Caduceus (staff entwined with two snakes) becoming universal symbols of medicine or hospitals.

(10:22:36) (@ron1) The Caduceus also has connections with Hermes in Greek myth, and Mercury in Roman myth, signifying a messenger of the gods. It has been observed that the image resembles a double helix. Quetzalcoatl, the Meso-American inspiration god, appeared as a feathered serpent.

(10:23:03) (@ron1) Ancient Egyptians also had a version of Ophiuchus, whom they knew as Imhotep - so perhaps, like Christ, this is an example of a recurring mythic archetype - and like the story of Saint Nick, was exaggerated and transfigured.

(10:23:27) (@ron1) It is interesting to note that in the Norse depiction of Armageddon - called by them Ragnarok, a man-god - Thor - wrestles with a giant serpent named Jormungand for the fate of the world. And in the TV show Millennium, the logo of a group who sought to control the end of the world was the Ouroboros.

(10:23:54) (@ron1) Snake oil, familiar in pop-culture as a folk tale image of miracle salve to cure any pain or illness, is a euphemism for a product sold with exaggerated or fraudulent claims; but is a real Chinese remedy used to sooth joint pain.

(10:24:18) (@ron1) So what we have here is a theme of apocalypse - in both senses of the word, in conjunction with rebirth or renewal.

(10:24:32) (@ron1) December 21 is the winter solstice, an important occasion for the Celts because it was a time of rebirth, and the last chance to feast before a hazardous winter set in.

(10:25:04) (@ron1) The celebration is known as Yule, derived from the Norse word for wheel - which symbolized a turning point from darkness into light as the length of night begins to shorten and the length of days increase.

(10:25:29) (@ron1) December 21, 2012. In a leap year, and 13 years after 1999. Astronomers tell us that the Sun's path will visually intersect with the Galactic equator - a phenomenon I'm told is very rare (once every 25,920 years) and that the Mayan mythologically identify as The Sacred Tree.

(10:25:59) (@ron1) This forms a kind of celestial crossroads where the Sun in Winter Solstice converges with the center of our galaxy. Ophiuchus leads into Sagittarius, a constellation which research reveals points toward the galactic center around this time through an area of a dark rift in the Milky Way. Which sounds a lot like Road to Xibalba and the Tree of Life mentioned in the movie The Fountain.

(10:26:39) (@ron1) According to (translation of) The Mayan Mesoamerican Long Count calendar - which would mark its thirteenth and final cycle before resetting to 0 (13.0.0.0), in this age of Ophiuchus, this date may also signify the impending end of the world.

(10:27:05) (@ron1) Because the Mayan calendar ends then and there, many people are wondering and anticipating - as they did with the year 2000 (and we all saw how that turned out) - about what this means. However, 2000 could have been a miscalculation or approximation for 2012. Or a postponement.

(10:27:31) (@ron1) A calendar that reportedly began at 3114 B.C, approximately the same time period established in the Egyptian Long Count Calendar...under 6000 years ago - the point when many contemporary Christians claim the world began. So perhaps, at least symbolically or conceptually, this was the time of our Genesis, when the world as we know it started.

(10:28:07) (@ron1) How the Mayans and Egyptians determined such things involves a math way beyond my pay grade, and is another matter entirely. Clearly, the fact that these allegedly less advanced peoples had access to this kind of information shows they knew something about the nature of the universe - of life, death and time - that we do not.

(10:29:03) (@ron1) Enough so that they could predict or project metaphysical and archetypal manifestations. They recognized and accepted that history and nature repeat in celestial cycles, which even Nietzsche noted in his idea of Eternal Recurrence.

(10:29:25) (@ron1) Could Atlantis have existed and been destroyed 26,000 years ago? Causing mankind to effectively start over? Is this what we can expect from 2012? If someone told you when you were going to die, would you believe them? If so, what would you do about it? Have the Mayans given us just such a warning?

(10:29:57) (@ron1) Why does the calendar stop, so conclusively? Apparently, that Mayan calendar seems designed to accommodate and usher in 2012. Some are speculating a devastating and transformative pole shift with drastic climate change, others expect instead a more constructive shift in paradigm, or both or neither.

(10:30:22) (@ron1) Perhaps destruction leads to construction. Astronomers present a possibility that the effects of precession will alter magnetic polarity of the sun, combined with gravitational forces from the simultaneous alignment of other planets, might cause massive solar flares, and maybe could move the axis of the Earth.

(10:30:44) (@ron1) Never mind whatever energies or transmissions are released upon us by aligning also with galactic center. Mayan prophecy claims that, in this period, we will experience a realignment that synchronizes us with the cycles of nature, mutating us and accelerating our evolution.

(10:30:54) (@cris7) You can't rebuild a society to advance it without tearing down the old order

(10:31:06) (@ron1) right cris...

(10:31:24) (@ron1) The Buddha is said to have initiated/predicted the Wheel of Dharma to turn every 500 years, for five turns - the fifth revolution having supposedly occurred in 2000, in close enough proximity to effect/initialize 2012, which also happens to be the Year of the Dragon (of serpent imagery, emblematic of wisdom, daring and change).

(10:31:58) (maybelle) there was a report of polar ice melt being much faster than anticipated-they suggest that it may be all gone in 5 years if it continues at rate of 2007 decrease.

(10:32:12) (@ron1) Something else I discovered is that the I Ching is a type of calendar system; The Book of Changes, with its 64 hexagrams, concerns the progression of time. The Yin and Yang symbol reflects the yearly cycle, with Yin/black as the female/lunar and Yang/white as the male/solar.

(10:32:30) (@ron1) The trigrams that compose the hexagrams are extensions of Yin (broken line) and Yang (solid line), depicting a process of balance and unification. 64 outcomes times 6 lines each equals 384, indicating a 13 month lunar cycle.

(10:32:47) (@ron1) Using a computer program assigning a date to each of the 64 possibilities, starting with when the I Ching was created, philosopher/ethno-botanist Terrence McKenna realized that it corresponded to a pattern he describes and illustrates as a "time wave," which ends - independently and ignorantly of the Mayans - on 12.21.12.

(10:33:12) (@ron1) Implications of all these "coincidences" are stunning; the theme is too persistent, common and substantial to ignore or dismiss as meaningless or accidental.

(10:33:29) (@ron1) Astrology and astronomy are not mutually exclusive, and ancient "primitive" cultures in tune with nature understood this, as they monitored the position of stars in relation to natural planetary rhythms and cycles in order to plan their lives within these patterns.

(10:33:52) (@ron1) For them, there was no distinction - astrology was astronomy, and no separation between Man and nature existed. Just as the location of the sun and moon and other planets effect the status and behavior of the planet, so they likewise effect people in both direct and subtle ways. It isn't necessarily so much the stars that influence people, but their relative placement in the sky at various times of the year.

(10:34:26) (@ron1) Over the last decade, a collective sense of anticipation, anxiety and apprehension of some great cosmic change approaching seems to infuse the psychology of the general populace. We see it abundantly in the New Age literature and Liberal sociology, in the reactions to potential end times for 2000 and 2012.

(10:34:54) (@ron1) Like animals perceiving a climatic change indicating rain or earthquake, we feel a subconscious vibration suggesting something on the horizon. Something is about to happen; we don't know exactly what, or how, but maybe we know when. In the Samurai code of Hagakure, the end is important in all things.

(10:35:21) (@ron1) Although, we should keep in mind - and would be wise to, that endings are also beginnings.

(10:35:35) (@ron1) When one door closes, another opens.

(10:35:51) (@ron1) To the Mayan culture, life and death were intrinsically and intimately connected. For them, as with Nietzsche, Buddhists and the Samurai, to die well is to have lived well. In other words, gracefully and gratefully. A New World Order is perched on the horizon.

(10:36:17) (@ron1) DANCING THROUGH THE END OF TIME

(10:36:36) (@ron1) Do you ever get the feeling that there is a missing piece to the puzzle? Our Earth orbit around our Sun in a year's time. This is ordinarily measured by the twelve months of the year or the twelve signs of the zodiac. Neither of these two measurement systems use the actual stars that we see in the night sky.

(10:37:01) (@ron1) When we do use the stars or the constellations to measure the yearly cycle, we can recognize that the Sun appears to move through thirteen constellations of stars every year; not twelve. Also when working with the stars, we find that our Moon orbits around the Earth thirteen times in one year; as the Moon moves thirteen times faster than the Earth. Who is the mysterious thirteenth constellation, and why is there so little information available about him?

(10:37:42) (@ron1) This intriguing constellation is called Ophiuchus, which simply means Serpent Holder. the image that represents him in the sky is most often seen as a naked man with a large serpent or snake coiled between his legs. He holds the body of the Serpent in his two hands. His eyes are directed toward the head of the Serpent, which is reaching for the stars of Corona Borealis, the Northern Crown.

(10:38:16) (@ron1) Ophiuchus' forehead and third eye are in close proximity to the forehead and third eye of Hercules, the constellation just above Ophiuchus. Their relationship is analogous to that of teacher-student, guru-disciple or shaman-apprentice. One of Ophiuchus' feet is on the back of Scorpius, the Scorpion, just above Antares, the star in the Scorpion's heart.

(10:38:44) (@ron1) His other foot is dangerously close to the stinger in the Scorpion's tail. Near this foot and the stinger, along with the tip of Sagittarius, the Archer's arrow, is the position of the center of our Galaxy.

(10:39:08) (@ron1) Ophiuchus is named by his relationship to the archetypal being called the Serpent. This is the same Serpent that appears in the Garden of Eden story in the bible and also the same Serpent as Quetzalcoatle and Rukulcan, as he is called in Middle America by the Aztecs and the Mayans.

(10:39:34) (@ron1) Our culture has tended to negate the archetypal energies of the Serpent and associate it with "evil." The Mayan, Hindu and other indigenous cultures have honored the Serpent and its energy. It is interesting that much of the alternative teachings, since the 1960s, either came from India or Native cultures. Where would the New Age be without chakras, karma, meditation, drumming and respecting the Earth Mother?

(10:40:15) (@ron1) Those of us who have journeyed on a spiritual path toward healing, wholeness or enlightenment have encountered the Serpent, possibly as healing energy or the awakening Kundalini. the stars of Ophiuchus invite us to awaken to our individual relationship to the Serpent. Are we struggling with the Serpent, in denial or trying to manipulate its energy; or are we dancing with it, in a state of unconditional love and surrender?

(10:41:00) (@ron1) Every year between November 22, and December 25, the Sun passes through the constellation of Ophiuchus, from our perspective here on the Earth. Many of us recognize this as the "holiday Season". The Christmas holiday is, on one level, the celebration of the birth of Christ or Christ consciousness.

(10:41:30) (@ron1) This state of consciousness, also sometimes called galactic consciousness, is represented by the constellation of Ophiuchus, the Serpent Dancer, when achieved within a human body. Remember that there are twelve disciples with the Christ, as there are twelve signs of the zodiac with Ophiuchus. What is also unique about Ophiuchus is that it is the only constellation in human form that resides in the direction of the center of our Milky Way Galaxy!

(10:42:05) (@ron1) In galactic astrology, the center of the Galaxy is analogous to the Higher Self or the Jungian Self. It is only by transcending the "wheel of twelve" and allowing energy to spiral, resonant with the number thirteen, that we as humans, access and maintain a conscious connection to our Higher Self.

(10:42:34) (@ron1) Another important connection to Ophiuchus lies in the fact that the Winter Solstices, since 1937, have been in his area of the sky. Due to a 26,000 year cycle called the precession of the equinox, the spring equinox appears to move from one constellation to another. At this time, it is shifting from Pisces, the Fish to Aquarius, the Water Bearer.

(10:43:08) (@ron1) . Applying this astrological technique to the movement of the two solstices, Summer and Winter, they also indicate archetypal shifts. When an equinox or solstice enters a new constellation in this way, it signals a "new age". It is being suggested here that Ophiuchus, the Serpent Carrier, is the archetype of what we commonly call the New Age and that the time of Aquarius is still yet to come.

(10:43:37) (@ron1) The last Age of Ophiuchus was from about 4500 BC to 2500 BC. Now that the Serpent Holder has returned, we have the opportunity to "remember" and once again access ancient wisdom from that time and specifically wisdom related to "serpent energy".

(10:44:08) (@ron1) Since the late 1930s, all the planets have astrologically passed through Ophiuchus' area of the sky. All but one that is. The planet Pluto began its journey through Ophiuchus and the Serpent around the start of the 1990s. This is when the World Wide Web came into existence. Notice how Ophiuchus is encountering the Serpent through his two hands.

(10:44:19) (@cris7) yes

(10:44:46) (@ron1) Consider how an electric musician, an energy healer and a Web surfer all work with "the energy" through their two hands. Pluto will complete its journey through Ophiuchus around 2012, the date many of us recognize as the end of an over 5000-year long Mayan calendar cycle.

(10:45:09) (@ron1) The Mayan calendar is based on galactic astrology cycles. These are cycles involving the stars, such as the Pleiades. The Mayan calendar cycles are not limited to the planets of our solar system.

(10:45:36) (@ron1) What may very well be the most significant astrological event in the history of humanity is about to occur. The equinoxes and the solstices form a cross in the sky that appears to rotate in a total period of 26,000 years. Every 6500 years, either the equinoxes or the solstices are aligned with the equator of our Galaxy.

(10:46:11) (@ron1) The equator of our Galaxy is what we are looking at when we see the stars of the Milky Way on a dark, clear night. the Winter Solstice in December 1998, will have the center of the Sun precisely aligned with the center of the galactic equator. This marks the time of the major influx of galactic and star energy into the Earth and the beginning of a galactic initiation which will be complete in the thirteen or so years till 2012.

(10:46:57) (@ron1) To get a picture of what galactic means for us as human beings, think about the people in Star Trek. They have the capacity to travel among the stars of our Galaxy, they are interacting with other galactic citizens and are a part of a intragalactic Federation that includes civilizations from other star systems.

(10:47:24) (@ron1) The time of Star Trek, 200-300 years in the future, is astrologically marked by the Winter Solstice reaching an exact alignment with the center of our Galaxy. This is also the time of the completion of the 6000-year long Jewish/Biblical calendar cycle. What is to occur within the next few years is that humanity will begin to become a galactic race of beings (the full potential of Ophiuchus).

(10:47:52) (@ron1) By the way, according to the sidereal, star-based zodiac, the Age of Aquarius will begin in this future time about 200-300 years from now. How can we have "true brotherhood" and understanding when we have not yet made peace with our own "inner Alien" or awakened to our heritage as descendants of extraterrestrials?

(10:48:25) (@ron1) Working consciously with the energy of the Serpent enables us to take back any shadow projections that we unconsciously offer to the "other." After this is done and we have integrated our own tendency toward duality, fragmentation and separation, then we are invited to truly wake-up and be with the other beings who share our world with us.

(10:48:51) (@ron1) What we are about to co- create here on the Earth is beyond anything that we can possibly imagine at this time. You are invited to be present in each and every moment and enjoy the dance through the end of time.

(10:49:15) (@ron1) END for today...open chat

(10:49:33) (maybelle) thanks you ron very nice

(10:50:09) (@ron1) I will fix up my earlier notes for another time...

(10:50:55) (@cris7) I enjoyed this a lot Ron

(10:51:35) (@cris7) I appreciate the time you took for this lesson Ron.

(10:51:54) (@ron1) I guess its time to take a little break...see you later cris...I'm glad you stopped by