Post by WalksInSpirit on Feb 3, 2007 1:04:22 GMT -5
Angels: 02-02-07
ron says: i became interested in angels and archangels because of the readings regarding the less known ones...so i hope to finish with the readings soon
Blu says: I love all my angels, and they are ALL mine!
Blu says: He hee
ron says: ok...i'll continue where i left off
ron says: OTHER ARCHANGELS
ron says: ARIEL/Cabalistic
ron says: Ariel means "lion of God" and is often associated with lions. When Ariel is near you, you may begin seeing references to or visions of lions around you. Ariel is also associated with the wind. Found in books of Judaic mysticism and Cabalistic, Ariel works closely with King Solomon in conducting manifestation, spirit releasement and Divine magic.
Blu says: Ahhh that is interesting I did not know that...When I watched that movie the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe Iheard WIND in my meditations!
ron says: Although he is described as a member of the Angelic hierarchy, he is also at times placed among the evil Angels as one of the fallen Angels who are routed by the stern and obedient seraph Abdiel during the war in heaven.
ron says: AZRAEL/Hebrew, Muslim
diane says: bad Azrael
ron says: The much feared Angel of death in both Islamic and Hebrew lore, Azrael’s name means “whom God helps.” Azrael’s primary role is to help people cross over to Heaven at the time of physical death.
ron says: He comforts people prior to their physical passing, makes sure they don’t suffer during death and helps them assimilate on the other side. Working as a grief counselor, he surrounds grieving family members with healing energy and helps them cope and thrive, and absorbs their pain.
ron says: Azrael has eyes and tongues exactly equal to the number of people inhabiting the world. Each time he blinks one of his eyes, it signifies that another person has died. Azrael also keeps track of the dying by recording the births of the living and erasing the names of those who have died.
Blu says: That is a lot of eyes and tongues
diane says: hmm. must have him confused with azizial ? is it?
merri says: busy angel!
ron says: CAMAEL/Cabalistic
diane says: bet he's got a great computer
ron says: Camael, his name meaning "he who sees God", he is listed as one of the seven truly powerful Angels who have the great honor of standing in the very presence of God. Originally the God of War in Druid mythology, he is frequently referred to as the ruler of the planet Mars, as well as one of the governing Angels of the seven planets.
ron says: In Cabalistic lore he is considered one of the ten Archangels. According to Jewish custom, Camael serves as the mediator, taking prayers of Israel before the Angelic princes residing in the seventh heaven.
diane says: lots of these mythical beings crossed over to Christianity, huh?
merri says: absolutely
ron says: i don't know...but that seems so
ron says: HANIEL/Babylonian, Cabalistic
ron says: Haniel's name means "the grace of God" and is generally credited with the title of prince or chief of the Angelic orders or choirs of the principalities and virtues. For this reason, Haniel is listed in some lists as one of the seven Archangels.
ron says: . Some Cabalistic texts credit Haniel as escorting Enoch to the spirit world where he was transformed into the Angel Metatron, being one of the only two humans to ever become Angels (his brother Elijah being the other).
ron says: Haniel helps us to uncover the lost secrets of natural healing remedies such as potions, powders and crystals. He will help you with whenever you need to speak in public and helps you to remain poised and centered. You can also call on Haniel to help bring beauty, harmony and loving friends into your life.
Blu says: LOL, WIS will argue that point...but I won't
merri says: seems to be some confusion regarding angels Blu
ron says: JEREMIEL, Ramiel/Judiac
merri says: depends on where one gets the info it seems
ron says: i don't know anything about the word, Ramiel
diane says: doesn't figure that man would chose to become an angel, but who knows?
Blu says: WIS will use the bible everytime, I use my inner knowing. I think if he experienced it himself that might change
merri says: I have read angels never become human flesh
ron says: In ancient Judaic texts, Jeremiel is listed as one of the seven core Archangels, his name meaning ("mercy of God" or "whom God sets up"). He is credited with helping Baruch, a prolific author of apocryphal Judaic texts in the first century A.D., with his prophetic visions. It is also said that he took Baruch on a tour of the different levels of Heaven. The coming of the Messiah was one of Jeremiel's visions.
Blu says: It's not just any man Diane, It's Jesus
merri says: nor do the incarnate
Blu says: Fallen Angels incarnated in the flesh
diane says: I c
merri says: not according to this info Blu
ron says: Jeremiel is that Archangel who review's our lives with us after we've crossed over. He is also able to do this for us while we're still living, helping us to review our life up till now so we can correct the wrongs we've done by making positive adjustments. Through this, he's able to help us make life changes, making us stronger and lead us to the right path.
Blu says: Sits at the right Hand of God...that position contains much meaning
ron says: Jeremiel also helps us with clairvoyance and prophetic visions, and helps us to interpret psychic dreams.
Blu says: exactly what are you refernecing merri?
ron says: i think merri is thinking of the seven archangels
merri says: something I read along time ago but didn't write down the text
ron says: METATRON/Judaic, Cabalistic
Blu says: Enoch is a past life of jesus correct?
ron says: One of the only two Archangels whose name does not end in "el" and one of the only two Archangels who were humans before becoming Angels (his brother Elijah/Sandalphon being the other). His human name was Enoch.
ron says: The meaning of Metatron is unclear, but some believe it means "he who occupies the throne next to the Divine throne", "the Angel of the Presence" or that his name is a derivation of the name Yahweh, the Jewish term for the unspoken sacred name of God.
ron says: and its very hard at times, to separate Truth from Tradition
ron says: like with History and Tradition
merri says: exactly
diane says: traditions hold much truth
merri says: tradition also hold alot of superstition
ron says: true, but in most cases, is exagerraed
Blu says: Yes, Enoch is a past life of Jesus and hence he became metaron
diane says: Campbells the Power of Myth goes into the subject
Blu says: and he is a very calssy dresser!
merri says: LOL
ron says: it really hard to say...how much do we really know of the highest of the worlds of spirits and creation?
diane says: ty for that info Blu. LOL
Blu says: We know darn little that is how much we know
diane says: only through myth and tradition, I'd say, ron
Blu says: LOL
ron says: One of the most important Angels in the Western tradition, he represents the supreme Angel of death, to whom God daily gives orders as to which souls will be taken that day. Metatron transmits these orders to his subordinates Gabriel and Sammael.
merri says: and each generation makes its own myths
diane says: oops....and through the gospel's & Bible
Blu says: Jesus holds the keys to the kingdom, and that is a lot of power
ron says: On earth Enoch was a prophet and scribe. He was also a scholar on heavenly secrets, having received "The Book of the Angel Raziel", a textbook about God's workings penned by Archangel Raziel and given to Adam, Noah, Enoch and Solomon. As a result, God escorted Enoch directly to the seventh Heaven - the highest level - to reside and work. Enoch was given wings and transformed into a great Archangel named Metatron.
diane says: right, merri
diane says: did Enoch die? or was he ascended?
true_eagle says: Jesus said, “I’m the Way, the Truth and the Life. No man comes unto the Father but by Me.” And the Bible makes it clear that we’ve all sinned. We’ve all come short of God’s glory and that the penalty for this is death, but yet “God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him, should not perish, but have everlasting life."
Blu says: ascended
merri says: and had neither mother or father
diane says: aha...then that is the key
ron says: Since Metatron excelled at his work on earth, he was given a similar job in Heaven to scribe the records of everything that happens on earth and keep the Akashic records, which is the "Book of Life". He is the chief recorder in Heaven and in charge of recording and organizing all the records. He helps us understand Heaven's perspective and to learn how to work with the Angelic realm.
merri says: wondered who did that!
ron says: He has a special place in his heart for children, especially those who are spiritually gifted. After the Exodus, Metatron led the children of Israel through the wilderness and into safety. He continues to lead children today, both on Earth and in Heaven and helps them to adjust to Heaven after crossing over.
Blu says: That is why I saw metatron, I ws standing in line at the great library waiting to get in!
diane says: since Enoch didn't die a human death, perhaps that qualified him for his wings
Blu says: and He promised to never leave us
merri says: this info said angels don't have wings
ron says: service, ad infintum
Blu says: wings are symbolism
merri says: only if we wish to perceive them in this way
diane says: lol...ok then...for his halo
ron says: RAZIEL/Judaic, Cabalistic
Blu says: halo = aura
ron says: Raziel works very closely with the Creator and its believed he knows all of the secrets of the Universe and how it operates. He wrote down all of these secrets in a tome of symbols and Divine magic called "The Book of the Angel Raziel".
merri says: have to run.....good chatting with you guys
diane says: aura=magnetic ligh field
ron says: After Adam and Eve were expelled from Eden, Raziel gave Adam the book for guidance about manifestation and God's grace. Later the prophet Enoch received the book prior to his ascension and transformation into Archangel Metatron. Noah was also given a copy of the book by Archangel Raphael and Noah used the information to build his ark and help its inhabitants after the flood.
Blu says: tome huh? Hmmmm.... hall of records?
ron says: ?
Blu says: book might be in the hall of records?
Blu says: funny you bring this up, I was thinking about what was in there lastnight
ron says: Raziel can help you understand esoteric material, manifestation principles, sacred geometry, quantum physics and other high-level information. He can also open you up to higher levels of psychic abilities and increase your ability to see, hear, know and feel Divine guidance. Like a Divine wizard, Raziel can also assist you with alchemy, clairvoyance, and divine magic.
ron says: SANDA LPHON/Judaic, Cabalistic
ron says: Only one of the two Archangels whose name doesn't end with an "el", Sandalphon is the twin brother of Archangel Metatron. The twins are the only Archangels in Heaven who were originally mortal men. Sandalphon was the prophet Elijah and Metatron was the wise man
ron says: Enoch. God gave both men their immortal assignments as Archangels to reward them for their good work upon Earth, allowing them to continue their sacred service from Heaven.
ron says: Elijah's ascension occurred when he was lifted up to Heaven in a fiery chariot pulled by two horses of fire, accompanied by a whirlwind, an even recorded in the second chapter of the Book of 2 Kings.
ron says: so, there were others, or another, than Jesus
ron says: that rose to heven
ron says: or i should say, another soul
ron says: should i contine with the next part?
ron says: this is biblical
diane says: yes
Blu says: Elijah was John the baptist
diane says: Yes...Melchisedeck also ascended
ron says: The scriptures are full of the "Supernatural". What we will discuss at this time within the Spirit World are Archangels ... who and what they do.
ron says: There is but a step from the "Natural" world to the "Spirit" world. The dividing veil is our "fleshy" bodies.
diane says: They sure all ...the whole thing is supernatural
ron says: The "Heavenlies" are peopled (inhabited) by/with Spirit Beings. They are of two classes, good and evil.
diane says: We pray for guidance on all things "seen and unseen"
ron says: Here's a very good explanation of what Cherubim angels looks like ... read Ezekiel 1:4-14.
ron says: They are classified as "Seraphim", "Cherubim", "Angles" (good & bad), "Principalities", "Powers", "Age Rulers of Darkness", "Wicked Spirits", ... (Eph. 6:12 - For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].
ron says: "Thrones", "Dominions", (Col 1:16 - For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
ron says: "Fallen Angels", (2 Peter 2:4 - For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast [them] down to hell, and delivered [them] into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
ron says: "Spirits in Prison", (1 Peter 3:18-20 - For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: ... 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; ... 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
ron says: "Demons", "Seducing Spirits", (1 Tim 4:1 - Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils (demons).
ron says: The Angels are "innumerable in number" (Heb 12:22 - But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels). ... They are "mighty in power" but not Almighty (2 Thess. 1:7).
ron says: They excel in strenght ... one angel destroyed 185,000 of the Assyrian army in a night. An angel rolled away the stone from the Tomb of Christ, and one angel shall bind Satan & cast him into the "Bottomless Pit".
ron says: They are "Glorious" beings (Luke 9:26), and have great knowledge, but are not Omniscient. The Angels are "Ministering Spirits" to them who are "heirs of salvation" (Heb 1:13-14), and "Executioners of God's Wrath" on the "wicked"
ron says: (2 Thess 1:7-8 -And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, ... 1:8 - In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
ron says: They will gather the "elect of Israel" from the four corners of the earth (Matt 22:31 - And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.) ...
ron says: and are commissioned to supply the physical needs of God's people (Matt 4:11) (1 Kings 19:4-8 - But he himself went a day's journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a juniper tree: and he requested for himself that he might die; and said, It is enough; now, O LORD, take away my life; for I [am] not better than my fathers.
ron says: 19:5 And as he lay and slept under a juniper tree, behold, then an angel touched him, and said unto him, Arise [and] eat.
true_eagle says: ?
ron says: 19:6 And he looked, and, behold, [there was] a cake baken on the coals, and a cruse of water at his head. And he did eat and drink, and laid him down again.
ron says: 19:7 And the angel of the LORD came again the second time, and touched him, and said, Arise [and] eat; because the journey [is] too great for thee.
ron says: 19:8 And he arose, and did eat and drink, and went in the strength of that meat forty days and forty nights unto Horeb the mount of God.
ron says: Among the "Principalities & Powers" of the Spirit World there are three great leaders. They are Michael, Gabriel, and Satan. These three are also felt to be known as Archangels, even though scripture surely only speaks of Michael as one.
ron says: MICHAEL - He is mentioned three times in the book of Daniel where he is called a "Prince" who stands for Daniel's people - the Jews.
ron says: (Dan 10:13 - But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.)
ron says: (Dan 10:21 - But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and [there is] none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince).
ron says: (Dan 12:1 - And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book).
ron says: It is in the book of Jude verse 9 where Michael is called the "Archangel". (Jude 1:9 - Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee).
diane says: Michael's the Protector of the Catholic Church
diane says: His name's invoked at every mass
ron says: In Rev. 12:7 Michael is seen in command of the Angelic Army of Heaven in battle (Rev 12:7 - And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels), .....
ron says: His work seems to be to deliver God's people, particularly the Jews, from the power of Satan, and finally to oust him (satan) & his angels from the Heavenlies, and cast them down into the earth.
ron says: v 12:9 - And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him).
diane says: He's perfect for that job
ron says: He also has something to do with the resurrection of the dead, for he is associated with the "Resurrection" mentioned in Dan 12:1-2 - And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people:
ron says: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
ron says: found written in the book. --- now i know you all know what book
diane says: ?
diane says: Akashic record
ron says: And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame [and] everlasting contempt.
ron says: yes
diane says: do i win a prize? LOL
ron says: And he contested with the Devil the resurrection of Moses (Jude verse 9 - Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
crystal says: you always win the prize .....lol
diane says: boobie prize :-(
ron says: Also the "voice" of the Archangel that will be heard when the "Dead in Christ" shall rise (1 Thess 4:16), will be the voice of Michael, ... for he is actually the only Archangel mentioned in the scriptures. (1 Thess. 4:16 - For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:)
diane says: Isn't Gabriel mentioned in Scrip?
ron says: what about Gabriel?...i thought this angel was in the NT
diane says: NT?
ron says: new testament
diane says: me too...hmmm. will have to check bluebible.org
ron says: i believe this is so...but, yet, the writer may be using just the old testament
crystal says: I am still a new babie in bible study, just joined in church 5 weeks ago
Blu says: I love all my angels, and they are ALL mine!
Blu says: He hee
ron says: ok...i'll continue where i left off
ron says: OTHER ARCHANGELS
ron says: ARIEL/Cabalistic
ron says: Ariel means "lion of God" and is often associated with lions. When Ariel is near you, you may begin seeing references to or visions of lions around you. Ariel is also associated with the wind. Found in books of Judaic mysticism and Cabalistic, Ariel works closely with King Solomon in conducting manifestation, spirit releasement and Divine magic.
Blu says: Ahhh that is interesting I did not know that...When I watched that movie the Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe Iheard WIND in my meditations!
ron says: Although he is described as a member of the Angelic hierarchy, he is also at times placed among the evil Angels as one of the fallen Angels who are routed by the stern and obedient seraph Abdiel during the war in heaven.
ron says: AZRAEL/Hebrew, Muslim
diane says: bad Azrael
ron says: The much feared Angel of death in both Islamic and Hebrew lore, Azrael’s name means “whom God helps.” Azrael’s primary role is to help people cross over to Heaven at the time of physical death.
ron says: He comforts people prior to their physical passing, makes sure they don’t suffer during death and helps them assimilate on the other side. Working as a grief counselor, he surrounds grieving family members with healing energy and helps them cope and thrive, and absorbs their pain.
ron says: Azrael has eyes and tongues exactly equal to the number of people inhabiting the world. Each time he blinks one of his eyes, it signifies that another person has died. Azrael also keeps track of the dying by recording the births of the living and erasing the names of those who have died.
Blu says: That is a lot of eyes and tongues
diane says: hmm. must have him confused with azizial ? is it?
merri says: busy angel!
ron says: CAMAEL/Cabalistic
diane says: bet he's got a great computer
ron says: Camael, his name meaning "he who sees God", he is listed as one of the seven truly powerful Angels who have the great honor of standing in the very presence of God. Originally the God of War in Druid mythology, he is frequently referred to as the ruler of the planet Mars, as well as one of the governing Angels of the seven planets.
ron says: In Cabalistic lore he is considered one of the ten Archangels. According to Jewish custom, Camael serves as the mediator, taking prayers of Israel before the Angelic princes residing in the seventh heaven.
diane says: lots of these mythical beings crossed over to Christianity, huh?
merri says: absolutely
ron says: i don't know...but that seems so
ron says: HANIEL/Babylonian, Cabalistic
ron says: Haniel's name means "the grace of God" and is generally credited with the title of prince or chief of the Angelic orders or choirs of the principalities and virtues. For this reason, Haniel is listed in some lists as one of the seven Archangels.
ron says: . Some Cabalistic texts credit Haniel as escorting Enoch to the spirit world where he was transformed into the Angel Metatron, being one of the only two humans to ever become Angels (his brother Elijah being the other).
ron says: Haniel helps us to uncover the lost secrets of natural healing remedies such as potions, powders and crystals. He will help you with whenever you need to speak in public and helps you to remain poised and centered. You can also call on Haniel to help bring beauty, harmony and loving friends into your life.
Blu says: LOL, WIS will argue that point...but I won't
merri says: seems to be some confusion regarding angels Blu
ron says: JEREMIEL, Ramiel/Judiac
merri says: depends on where one gets the info it seems
ron says: i don't know anything about the word, Ramiel
diane says: doesn't figure that man would chose to become an angel, but who knows?
Blu says: WIS will use the bible everytime, I use my inner knowing. I think if he experienced it himself that might change
merri says: I have read angels never become human flesh
ron says: In ancient Judaic texts, Jeremiel is listed as one of the seven core Archangels, his name meaning ("mercy of God" or "whom God sets up"). He is credited with helping Baruch, a prolific author of apocryphal Judaic texts in the first century A.D., with his prophetic visions. It is also said that he took Baruch on a tour of the different levels of Heaven. The coming of the Messiah was one of Jeremiel's visions.
Blu says: It's not just any man Diane, It's Jesus
merri says: nor do the incarnate
Blu says: Fallen Angels incarnated in the flesh
diane says: I c
merri says: not according to this info Blu
ron says: Jeremiel is that Archangel who review's our lives with us after we've crossed over. He is also able to do this for us while we're still living, helping us to review our life up till now so we can correct the wrongs we've done by making positive adjustments. Through this, he's able to help us make life changes, making us stronger and lead us to the right path.
Blu says: Sits at the right Hand of God...that position contains much meaning
ron says: Jeremiel also helps us with clairvoyance and prophetic visions, and helps us to interpret psychic dreams.
Blu says: exactly what are you refernecing merri?
ron says: i think merri is thinking of the seven archangels
merri says: something I read along time ago but didn't write down the text
ron says: METATRON/Judaic, Cabalistic
Blu says: Enoch is a past life of jesus correct?
ron says: One of the only two Archangels whose name does not end in "el" and one of the only two Archangels who were humans before becoming Angels (his brother Elijah/Sandalphon being the other). His human name was Enoch.
ron says: The meaning of Metatron is unclear, but some believe it means "he who occupies the throne next to the Divine throne", "the Angel of the Presence" or that his name is a derivation of the name Yahweh, the Jewish term for the unspoken sacred name of God.
ron says: and its very hard at times, to separate Truth from Tradition
ron says: like with History and Tradition
merri says: exactly
diane says: traditions hold much truth
merri says: tradition also hold alot of superstition
ron says: true, but in most cases, is exagerraed
Blu says: Yes, Enoch is a past life of Jesus and hence he became metaron
diane says: Campbells the Power of Myth goes into the subject
Blu says: and he is a very calssy dresser!
merri says: LOL
ron says: it really hard to say...how much do we really know of the highest of the worlds of spirits and creation?
diane says: ty for that info Blu. LOL
Blu says: We know darn little that is how much we know
diane says: only through myth and tradition, I'd say, ron
Blu says: LOL
ron says: One of the most important Angels in the Western tradition, he represents the supreme Angel of death, to whom God daily gives orders as to which souls will be taken that day. Metatron transmits these orders to his subordinates Gabriel and Sammael.
merri says: and each generation makes its own myths
diane says: oops....and through the gospel's & Bible
Blu says: Jesus holds the keys to the kingdom, and that is a lot of power
ron says: On earth Enoch was a prophet and scribe. He was also a scholar on heavenly secrets, having received "The Book of the Angel Raziel", a textbook about God's workings penned by Archangel Raziel and given to Adam, Noah, Enoch and Solomon. As a result, God escorted Enoch directly to the seventh Heaven - the highest level - to reside and work. Enoch was given wings and transformed into a great Archangel named Metatron.
diane says: right, merri
diane says: did Enoch die? or was he ascended?
true_eagle says: Jesus said, “I’m the Way, the Truth and the Life. No man comes unto the Father but by Me.” And the Bible makes it clear that we’ve all sinned. We’ve all come short of God’s glory and that the penalty for this is death, but yet “God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him, should not perish, but have everlasting life."
Blu says: ascended
merri says: and had neither mother or father
diane says: aha...then that is the key
ron says: Since Metatron excelled at his work on earth, he was given a similar job in Heaven to scribe the records of everything that happens on earth and keep the Akashic records, which is the "Book of Life". He is the chief recorder in Heaven and in charge of recording and organizing all the records. He helps us understand Heaven's perspective and to learn how to work with the Angelic realm.
merri says: wondered who did that!
ron says: He has a special place in his heart for children, especially those who are spiritually gifted. After the Exodus, Metatron led the children of Israel through the wilderness and into safety. He continues to lead children today, both on Earth and in Heaven and helps them to adjust to Heaven after crossing over.
Blu says: That is why I saw metatron, I ws standing in line at the great library waiting to get in!
diane says: since Enoch didn't die a human death, perhaps that qualified him for his wings
Blu says: and He promised to never leave us
merri says: this info said angels don't have wings
ron says: service, ad infintum
Blu says: wings are symbolism
merri says: only if we wish to perceive them in this way
diane says: lol...ok then...for his halo
ron says: RAZIEL/Judaic, Cabalistic
Blu says: halo = aura
ron says: Raziel works very closely with the Creator and its believed he knows all of the secrets of the Universe and how it operates. He wrote down all of these secrets in a tome of symbols and Divine magic called "The Book of the Angel Raziel".
merri says: have to run.....good chatting with you guys
diane says: aura=magnetic ligh field
ron says: After Adam and Eve were expelled from Eden, Raziel gave Adam the book for guidance about manifestation and God's grace. Later the prophet Enoch received the book prior to his ascension and transformation into Archangel Metatron. Noah was also given a copy of the book by Archangel Raphael and Noah used the information to build his ark and help its inhabitants after the flood.
Blu says: tome huh? Hmmmm.... hall of records?
ron says: ?
Blu says: book might be in the hall of records?
Blu says: funny you bring this up, I was thinking about what was in there lastnight
ron says: Raziel can help you understand esoteric material, manifestation principles, sacred geometry, quantum physics and other high-level information. He can also open you up to higher levels of psychic abilities and increase your ability to see, hear, know and feel Divine guidance. Like a Divine wizard, Raziel can also assist you with alchemy, clairvoyance, and divine magic.
ron says: SANDA LPHON/Judaic, Cabalistic
ron says: Only one of the two Archangels whose name doesn't end with an "el", Sandalphon is the twin brother of Archangel Metatron. The twins are the only Archangels in Heaven who were originally mortal men. Sandalphon was the prophet Elijah and Metatron was the wise man
ron says: Enoch. God gave both men their immortal assignments as Archangels to reward them for their good work upon Earth, allowing them to continue their sacred service from Heaven.
ron says: Elijah's ascension occurred when he was lifted up to Heaven in a fiery chariot pulled by two horses of fire, accompanied by a whirlwind, an even recorded in the second chapter of the Book of 2 Kings.
ron says: so, there were others, or another, than Jesus
ron says: that rose to heven
ron says: or i should say, another soul
ron says: should i contine with the next part?
ron says: this is biblical
diane says: yes
Blu says: Elijah was John the baptist
diane says: Yes...Melchisedeck also ascended
ron says: The scriptures are full of the "Supernatural". What we will discuss at this time within the Spirit World are Archangels ... who and what they do.
ron says: There is but a step from the "Natural" world to the "Spirit" world. The dividing veil is our "fleshy" bodies.
diane says: They sure all ...the whole thing is supernatural
ron says: The "Heavenlies" are peopled (inhabited) by/with Spirit Beings. They are of two classes, good and evil.
diane says: We pray for guidance on all things "seen and unseen"
ron says: Here's a very good explanation of what Cherubim angels looks like ... read Ezekiel 1:4-14.
ron says: They are classified as "Seraphim", "Cherubim", "Angles" (good & bad), "Principalities", "Powers", "Age Rulers of Darkness", "Wicked Spirits", ... (Eph. 6:12 - For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].
ron says: "Thrones", "Dominions", (Col 1:16 - For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
ron says: "Fallen Angels", (2 Peter 2:4 - For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast [them] down to hell, and delivered [them] into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
ron says: "Spirits in Prison", (1 Peter 3:18-20 - For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: ... 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; ... 3:20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
ron says: "Demons", "Seducing Spirits", (1 Tim 4:1 - Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils (demons).
ron says: The Angels are "innumerable in number" (Heb 12:22 - But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels). ... They are "mighty in power" but not Almighty (2 Thess. 1:7).
ron says: They excel in strenght ... one angel destroyed 185,000 of the Assyrian army in a night. An angel rolled away the stone from the Tomb of Christ, and one angel shall bind Satan & cast him into the "Bottomless Pit".
ron says: They are "Glorious" beings (Luke 9:26), and have great knowledge, but are not Omniscient. The Angels are "Ministering Spirits" to them who are "heirs of salvation" (Heb 1:13-14), and "Executioners of God's Wrath" on the "wicked"
ron says: (2 Thess 1:7-8 -And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, ... 1:8 - In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
ron says: They will gather the "elect of Israel" from the four corners of the earth (Matt 22:31 - And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.) ...
ron says: and are commissioned to supply the physical needs of God's people (Matt 4:11) (1 Kings 19:4-8 - But he himself went a day's journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a juniper tree: and he requested for himself that he might die; and said, It is enough; now, O LORD, take away my life; for I [am] not better than my fathers.
ron says: 19:5 And as he lay and slept under a juniper tree, behold, then an angel touched him, and said unto him, Arise [and] eat.
true_eagle says: ?
ron says: 19:6 And he looked, and, behold, [there was] a cake baken on the coals, and a cruse of water at his head. And he did eat and drink, and laid him down again.
ron says: 19:7 And the angel of the LORD came again the second time, and touched him, and said, Arise [and] eat; because the journey [is] too great for thee.
ron says: 19:8 And he arose, and did eat and drink, and went in the strength of that meat forty days and forty nights unto Horeb the mount of God.
ron says: Among the "Principalities & Powers" of the Spirit World there are three great leaders. They are Michael, Gabriel, and Satan. These three are also felt to be known as Archangels, even though scripture surely only speaks of Michael as one.
ron says: MICHAEL - He is mentioned three times in the book of Daniel where he is called a "Prince" who stands for Daniel's people - the Jews.
ron says: (Dan 10:13 - But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.)
ron says: (Dan 10:21 - But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and [there is] none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince).
ron says: (Dan 12:1 - And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book).
ron says: It is in the book of Jude verse 9 where Michael is called the "Archangel". (Jude 1:9 - Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee).
diane says: Michael's the Protector of the Catholic Church
diane says: His name's invoked at every mass
ron says: In Rev. 12:7 Michael is seen in command of the Angelic Army of Heaven in battle (Rev 12:7 - And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels), .....
ron says: His work seems to be to deliver God's people, particularly the Jews, from the power of Satan, and finally to oust him (satan) & his angels from the Heavenlies, and cast them down into the earth.
ron says: v 12:9 - And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him).
diane says: He's perfect for that job
ron says: He also has something to do with the resurrection of the dead, for he is associated with the "Resurrection" mentioned in Dan 12:1-2 - And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people:
ron says: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
ron says: found written in the book. --- now i know you all know what book
diane says: ?
diane says: Akashic record
ron says: And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame [and] everlasting contempt.
ron says: yes
diane says: do i win a prize? LOL
ron says: And he contested with the Devil the resurrection of Moses (Jude verse 9 - Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
crystal says: you always win the prize .....lol
diane says: boobie prize :-(
ron says: Also the "voice" of the Archangel that will be heard when the "Dead in Christ" shall rise (1 Thess 4:16), will be the voice of Michael, ... for he is actually the only Archangel mentioned in the scriptures. (1 Thess. 4:16 - For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:)
diane says: Isn't Gabriel mentioned in Scrip?
ron says: what about Gabriel?...i thought this angel was in the NT
diane says: NT?
ron says: new testament
diane says: me too...hmmm. will have to check bluebible.org
ron says: i believe this is so...but, yet, the writer may be using just the old testament
crystal says: I am still a new babie in bible study, just joined in church 5 weeks ago
