Post by WalksInSpirit on Dec 8, 2006 16:23:36 GMT -5
Friday Afternoon Chat: 12-08-06
(02:31:50) (ron) before i start where i left off, i will backup a bit...i'm still on those personalities that spoke thru Cayce, Jesus etc
(02:32:17) (ron) Q. IS PETER KNOWN TO ME TODAY?
(02:32:47) (ron) A. NOT KNOWN. AS HAS BEEN INDICATED, THERE ARE MANY OF THE APOSTLES, OR DISCIPLES, THAT MAY BE KNOWN. There's BARTHOLOMEW that may be known. There is ANDREW, there is JUDE (thy brother) that may be known. There is even JUDAS - don't know him, shouldn't know him; not as a fault in his, but better not.
(02:33:51) (ron) apparently this inquirer and Judas will not get along together
(02:34:24) (diane) sounds like it
(02:34:27) (ron) JOHN MAY ENTER, and will be known - and as one that may be proclaimed by the entity. These come only, to be sure, as conditions - but may become personal experiences. Just as this:
(02:34:49) (ron) How personal is thy God? Just as personal as ye will let Him be! How close is the Christ as was manifested in the physical body, Jesus? Just as near, just as dear as ye will let Him be! Oft ye may ask, from thy enquiring mind, when I so desire to know Him, why then do I not see, do I not hear?
(02:35:17) (true_eagle_mike) love u my lord ^i^
(02:35:20) (ron) "How long, 0 Lord, how long? Look not for a sign, as a SIGN," as He gave, "but BE-and ye are as One with Him!"
(02:35:38) (ron) These become not as trites, not as sayings - they must be experienced by self! They may not be EXPERIENCED by merely being told. Ye live them! "As ye live in me and I in the Father, ask what ye will and it will be done unto thee!"
(02:36:03) (ron) who does it seem to be talking here?
(02:36:38) (ron) "As ye live in me..."
(02:36:51) (Leon) the christ
(02:36:53) (ron) "and I in the Father,..."
(02:37:19) (ron) Ye wait, then, knowing. He knoweth what thou hast need of before ye ask. Then ye say, Why ask?
(02:37:36) (diane) right Leon
(02:37:38) (ron) In the love of thine own children, is it those who ask or those who do not ask that make a response? Not that ye love one more than the other; not for impunity, but a reciprocal reaction!
(02:38:02) (ron) Those things are as God is. And they that would know Him must BELIEVE that He is; and most of all ACT that way!
(02:38:21) (ron) Q. Should I hope and seek for personal experiences or contacts with Jesus as a personality now?
(02:38:48) (ron) A. As has been indicated, this may be. Not as a desire for self-exaltation, that is, self-proof, self-evidence; but it is evidenced in thee when YE are (in thy living, in thy thinking, in thy acting) One with Him.
(02:39:13) (ron) Then, and thus - how hath the angel given? "As ye have seen Him go, so will ye see Him come." Were those just as words? No.
(02:39:35) (ron) Thou hast seen Him oft in the acts of others and the personality ye called by another name, yet ye may see Him. And when He speaks, "Be not afraid, it is I". Know He is near. And in the breaking of bread ye may know Him!
(02:40:00) (ron) Q. In my life reading you say, "If ye would know Him, ye must endure". What is meant by Him, and what character of experience must I endure to know Him ?
(02:40:05) (true_eagle_mike) the bread of life
(02:40:21) (ron) A. This is as has been given again and again, in that as just said. Endure! That is, endure the unkind things that may said about others. Endure that which is of the world. For as He said, "Ye are of the world but be not OF the world, even as I am in the world but not of the world".
(02:41:03) (ron) That is, the imaginative forces that impel the activities are then to be creative - and in so doing, if it requires the self-sacrifice, if it requires this or that experience, THAT is enduring. But we are looking as He gave, "I go to prepare a place - if it were not so I would have told you - that where I AM ye may be - I AM!"
(02:41:41) (ron) Who shall I say hast sent me? I AM THAT I AM!
(02:41:57) (ron) Does it not all remain then as a whole? For without Abraham, without Moses, yea without David what need could there be that Melchizedek, that Enoch, or Joseph, or Joshua, should again come in the flesh? fulfilling all?
(02:42:19) (ron) Have ye fulfilled all? When ye have, ye are One with Him - are ye not? Is it not a reckoning? It IS ! We are through for the present (1158-9)
(02:42:35) (ron) powerful words
(02:42:51) (true_eagle_mike) yes
(02:42:59) (ron) The following is noteworthy among the Readings because of its obvious first person narrative -
(02:43:25) (ron) In this present report, these we find conform to many of the ideas and SOME of the ideals. Be sure there is not too much difference made in ideas and ideals, for, as has so oft been given, these must of necessity be for the accomplishment of the purport of teaching,
(02:43:59) (ron) training, and giving to a waiting world the truths as may be exemplified in the individuals' lives, until that or those individuals may become one with that purport as is being set forth - AN IDEA MAY BE BEAUTIFUL, MAY BE WONDERFUL, BUT WITHOUT THE BACKGROUND OF AN IDEAL BECOMES AS BUT SOUNDING BRASS, OR AS THE GOURD WITHOUT WATER.
(02:44:40) (ron) In these things, then, let each be mindful of that place, that niche, that purport each is to fill, and fill that with all of the power, might, strength, that lies within that body! SO COOPERATE WITH OTHER INDIVIDUALS, WORKING IN THEIR INDIVIDUAL CAPACITIES THAT THE WHOLE PURPORT MAY BE AS ONE, EVEN AS THE FATHER AND I ARE ONE IN YOU.
(02:45:21) (ron) I SPEAK NOT OF MYSELF, BUT THAT YE MAY KNOW THE TRUTH, EVEN AS DELIVERED IN THE DAY WHEN I WALKED AMONG MEN AND BECAME KNOWN AS THE SON OF MAN, AND THE SAVIOR OF A BE-KNGHTED RACE.
(02:45:47) (ron) Here, my brethren, ye are come again to fulfill, in this place, a glorious principle, a glorious article of work among the sons of man. Let each, then, in that power that may be gained in that association of the forces as manifest through each, become one in purpose. (254-50)
(02:45:56) (true_eagle_mike) the lord of host is with thee
(02:46:05) (ron) now, i don't think there are any doubts as to who was speaking!
(02:46:32) (Anonymous) no no doubt
(02:47:20) (ron) The following excerpts from the 254 series, or "Work Readings" are extremely important...And with the final paragraphs of 254-92 seem to sum up quite well the entire relationship of spiritual guidance from outside sources.
(02:47:33) (Blu) explains why cooperation is the first chapter in the SFG series
(02:47:57) (ron) (254-83) 2/14/35 The members of the Executive Committee of Group 9* of the A.R.E., some of whom are present in this room, salute Thee with greetings of deepest love and thank Thee for again bringing to us the ministry of our kind and helping leader, Edgar Cayce.
(02:48:39) (ron) Realizing that when science investigates the works of God on the higher planes as it has done on the material plane, spirituality will truly come into its own proper place in the consciousness of humanity, we hereby petition your indulgence and cooperation in bringing to us the following information,
(02:49:03) (ron) as the questions are asked, for the more perfect functioning of the work of Edgar Cayce and the Association from this time on, if same meets with your pleasure to do so.
(02:49:29) (ron) E.C. YES, WE - FROM THE SOURCE OF ALL KNOWLEDGE THAT IS PROMISED IN HIM - SALUTE THEE, and give that which will be helpful to those who seek to be in the ministry of those influences and forces that make for more and more awareness of the divine in each and every soul, that - applied in the experience of each entity, each soul - will bring that day of the Lord that is at hand to those who will hear His voice.
(02:50:11) (ron) THEN, FROM THE HEIGHTS OF THOSE EXPERIENCES, THOSE HIEARCHIES IN THE EARTH AND IN THE AIR, WE COME AS MESSENGERS OF TRUTH TO THOSE WHO WILL HEAR, AND QUESTION.
(02:50:58) (ron) Q. For the better and more rational presentation of the work of Edgar Cayce to the world, will you, if you consider same in order, kindly inform us of Thine Identity and the source or sources from which you bring us the information given in answer to our questions in the Readings other than the Physical? Is it from the Astral?
(02:51:32) (ron) A. (interrupting) From the universal forces that are acceptable and accessible to those who in earnestness open their minds, their souls, to the wonderful words of truth and light.
(02:51:56) (ron) Q. To what extent are the Masters of the Great White Brotherhood directing the activities of Edgar Cayce? Who are the Masters directly in charge?
(02:52:15) (ron) A. Messengers from the higher forces that may manifest from the Throne of grace itself.
(02:52:57) (ron) Q. Who are the Masters directly in charge? Is Saint Germain -
(02:53:12) (ron) A. (interrupting) Those that are directed by the Lord of lords, The King of kings, Him that came that ye might be one with the Father.
(02:53:59) (ron) Q. Is Saint Germain among; them? Who is Halaliel?
(02:54:17) (ron) A. These are all but messengers of the Most High. Halaliel is that one who from the beginning has been as a leader of the heavenly host, who has defied Ariel, who has made the ways that have been heavy - but as the means for the UNDERSTANDING.
(02:55:52) (ron) see, they do have choices, but they deal with things invisible...they are highly advanced in evolution...so their choice is always for the betterment of all creation
(02:56:03) (ron) that is my view of this heiarchy of life
(02:56:42) (ron) Q. Is Saint Germain among them?
(02:56:51) (ron) A. When needed.
(02:57:02) (ron) this person is persistent
(02:57:24) (ron) Q. Please give us Thine Identity?
(02:57:35) (ron) some more impressive conversation
(02:57:50) (ron) A. HE THAT SEEKS, THAT HAS NOT GAINED THE CONTROL - SEEKS d**nATION TO HIS OWN SOUL! CONTROL THINE INNER SELF THAT YE MAY KNOW THE TRUE LIFE AND LIGHT! FOR HE THAT WOULD NAME THE NAME MUST HAVE BECOME PERFECT IN HIMSELF!
(02:58:37) (ron) or, there is no turning back with an excuse of ignorance
(02:59:00) (ron) Q. If Mr. Cayce is a member and a messenger of the Great White Brotherhood, how do the Masters wish him to proceed and should not his activities henceforth be presented as Their Work?
(02:59:35) (ron) A. As the work of the Master of masters, that may be presented when in those lines, those accords, necessary through the White Brotherhood. This - this - THIS, my friends, even but LIMITS; while in Him is the Whole.
(02:59:59) (ron) WOULD THOU MAKE OF THY SELF, OF THYSELVES A LIMITED MEANS OF ACTIVITY? WOULD THOU SEEK TO BE HINDERED BY THOSE THINGS THAT HAVE MADE OF MANY, CONTENDING FORCES THAT CONTINUE, WAS ONE WITH ANOTHER EVEN IN THE AIR, EVEN IN THE ELEMENTAL FORCES?
(03:00:35) (ron) For He, thy Lord, thy God, hath called thee by name, even as He has given, "Whosoever will drink the cup, even as of my blood, he may indeed be free". While ye labor, let HIM that is the author, that is the finisher, that IS the Life, that is the bread of life, let HIM alone be thy guide! Dost He call any soul into service, then by name will He - does He - designate, and to whom it becomes a charge to keep -
(03:01:16) (ron) even as He has walked with him, THIS BODY THAT YE USE AS A CHANNEL OF APPROACH TO THE THRONE; YE MAKE OF SAME OFT AS A LAUGHINGSTOCK TO THY VERY SOUL THROUGH THINE OWN SELFISHNESS!
(03:01:41) (ron) Let the light of Him, thy Christ, thy God, IN that it may cleanse thy body, that it may lighten thy soul, that it may purge thy mind, that ye will only be just gentle, just kind; not finding fault with any, for with faults ye build barriers to thine own soul's enlightenment. I, THY GOD, THY CHRIST, BESEECH THEE! (254-83)
(03:02:25) (ron) Mr. C.: 0 ye children of light, that come seeking to know the will of thy God through the light that has been given thee! In thy activity let thy light shine, IN THEE, that others may know, may see - IN thee - that thou hast been in close communion with Him who is the light.
(03:02:52) (ron) For in Him is no darkness at ALL! So, let thy thought, thy acts, thy conversation one with another, be so permeated with that love as He gave, that ye may know that there is no approach save through that awareness within thine own self that makes ye one with Him.
(03:03:23) (ron) Let thy ways be His ways. Let that which prompts thee be not of thyself, but He - thy Lord, thy God - working in and through thee. For thou hast been called unto a service in Him. Then let thy prayer, thy meditation, be "Not my will but Thine, 0 Lord, be done in and through me".
(03:03:54) (ron) Q. Would it meet Thy Will and the Will of the Father, if, henceforth, the readings given by Edgar Cayce should be designated as pronouncements of Thee and the Father, given as is justified by the merit of those asking?
(03:04:14) (ron) A. THIS IS THE CONDITION; THIS IS THE ACTIVITY. Yet be ye all things to all men; thereby ye may save the more. For he that declares as a name, in a name, save in the universality of the Father, limits the ability of the seeker, of the channel through which that glory may come to any.
(03:04:45) (ron) Learn, rather, that given: By what name shall I say that I am sent? "I AM THAT I AM." That rather than in any name of this, that or the other manner. The I AM that seeks may gain, then, that access to the I AM that brought, brings, holds, the worlds in their place.
(03:04:45) (true_eagle_mike) ANY
(03:05:19) (ron) Q. May we ask with propriety by what name Thou didst call Thy servant Edgar Cayce during Thine Incarnation on earth ?
(03:05:37) (ron) A. Lucius.
(03:05:57) (ron) As has been given, ye have in thine own hands, thine own minds, that which is unexcelled in manifestations of His at-oneness with the Creative Forces manifesting in the earth. YET MAN, IN HIS MISCOMPREHENSION, MISUNDERSTANDING, MAKES SAME EITHER THAT GLORIOUS EFFECT OR BECOME THE LAUGHINGSTOCK OF HIM THAT PASSETH BY.
(03:06:25) (ron) Look upon those that were called into service as was Saul, the son of Kish; as was Jeroboam, the son of Nebat. These came by the Divine call from out of their own brethren, and were endowed with that which would make for such a manifestation as had not before been seen in the earth. Yet counselors of these made them but laughingstocks to the nations roundabout.
(03:06:56) (ron) SO, IN CHOOSING CHANNELS, IN CHOOSING WAY, IN CHOOSING MEANS, BE THOU VERY SLOW; YET MAKE HASTE. FOR THE DAY OF THE LORD IS AT HAND AND THE RECKONING OF MANY IS NIGH UNTO THEIR OWN DOOR
(03:07:20) (ron) So, in thine choosing channels, in choosing way, in choosing means, be thou very slow; yet make haste. For the day of the Lord is at hand and the reckoning of many is nigh unto their own door. (254-85)
(03:07:58) (ron) (254-92) 12/16/36 Work and plans of the Association for Research & Enlightenment, Inc., in studying and presenting the psychic work of Edgar Cayce. We seek counsel and guidance in carrying forward this work. You will consider the affairs of the Association under the general heads which will be presented and answer the questions that will be asked.
(03:08:20) (ron) Mr. C. Yes, we have the work of the Association for Research and Enlightenment, Incorporated; and its plans and its endeavors in presenting the work, the psychic information as may be given through Edgar Cayce.
(03:08:34) (ron) First, as we would give, for general information and for study of those who may undertake in any way to present information of a psychic source or where it may be an influence in the lives of individuals: First, as a corporation, as an organization, the Association for Research & Enlightenment, Inc., presents a problem for consideration in itself.
(03:08:58) (ron) Know that all the laws as pertain to the activities are the same, and that what has come into materialization first has had its inception in the mental and the spiritual realm, and is as perfect a body in those realms (or the more perfect, dependent upon the basis of the inception or the desire that has brought it into being) as it is in the material plane.
(03:09:24) (ron) And, as has ever been given, those influences are the same in applying or in relationships to such organizations as about any individual or any individual organization. And the same laws apply in same.
(03:09:43) (ron) Thus in seeking information as to the conducting of the affairs and of carrying forward the ideals and purposes of such an organization, consider the sources from which such information may come and as to what and as to how they apply toward what is set as the ideal. AND KNOW THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE IDEAL!
(03:10:12) (ron) But as has been given as respecting individuals, "He hath given His angels charge concerning thee, lest at any time ye dash your foot against a stone". It's just as applicable in any group organization as it is in an individual entity.
(02:32:17) (ron) Q. IS PETER KNOWN TO ME TODAY?
(02:32:47) (ron) A. NOT KNOWN. AS HAS BEEN INDICATED, THERE ARE MANY OF THE APOSTLES, OR DISCIPLES, THAT MAY BE KNOWN. There's BARTHOLOMEW that may be known. There is ANDREW, there is JUDE (thy brother) that may be known. There is even JUDAS - don't know him, shouldn't know him; not as a fault in his, but better not.
(02:33:51) (ron) apparently this inquirer and Judas will not get along together
(02:34:24) (diane) sounds like it
(02:34:27) (ron) JOHN MAY ENTER, and will be known - and as one that may be proclaimed by the entity. These come only, to be sure, as conditions - but may become personal experiences. Just as this:
(02:34:49) (ron) How personal is thy God? Just as personal as ye will let Him be! How close is the Christ as was manifested in the physical body, Jesus? Just as near, just as dear as ye will let Him be! Oft ye may ask, from thy enquiring mind, when I so desire to know Him, why then do I not see, do I not hear?
(02:35:17) (true_eagle_mike) love u my lord ^i^
(02:35:20) (ron) "How long, 0 Lord, how long? Look not for a sign, as a SIGN," as He gave, "but BE-and ye are as One with Him!"
(02:35:38) (ron) These become not as trites, not as sayings - they must be experienced by self! They may not be EXPERIENCED by merely being told. Ye live them! "As ye live in me and I in the Father, ask what ye will and it will be done unto thee!"
(02:36:03) (ron) who does it seem to be talking here?
(02:36:38) (ron) "As ye live in me..."
(02:36:51) (Leon) the christ
(02:36:53) (ron) "and I in the Father,..."
(02:37:19) (ron) Ye wait, then, knowing. He knoweth what thou hast need of before ye ask. Then ye say, Why ask?
(02:37:36) (diane) right Leon
(02:37:38) (ron) In the love of thine own children, is it those who ask or those who do not ask that make a response? Not that ye love one more than the other; not for impunity, but a reciprocal reaction!
(02:38:02) (ron) Those things are as God is. And they that would know Him must BELIEVE that He is; and most of all ACT that way!
(02:38:21) (ron) Q. Should I hope and seek for personal experiences or contacts with Jesus as a personality now?
(02:38:48) (ron) A. As has been indicated, this may be. Not as a desire for self-exaltation, that is, self-proof, self-evidence; but it is evidenced in thee when YE are (in thy living, in thy thinking, in thy acting) One with Him.
(02:39:13) (ron) Then, and thus - how hath the angel given? "As ye have seen Him go, so will ye see Him come." Were those just as words? No.
(02:39:35) (ron) Thou hast seen Him oft in the acts of others and the personality ye called by another name, yet ye may see Him. And when He speaks, "Be not afraid, it is I". Know He is near. And in the breaking of bread ye may know Him!
(02:40:00) (ron) Q. In my life reading you say, "If ye would know Him, ye must endure". What is meant by Him, and what character of experience must I endure to know Him ?
(02:40:05) (true_eagle_mike) the bread of life
(02:40:21) (ron) A. This is as has been given again and again, in that as just said. Endure! That is, endure the unkind things that may said about others. Endure that which is of the world. For as He said, "Ye are of the world but be not OF the world, even as I am in the world but not of the world".
(02:41:03) (ron) That is, the imaginative forces that impel the activities are then to be creative - and in so doing, if it requires the self-sacrifice, if it requires this or that experience, THAT is enduring. But we are looking as He gave, "I go to prepare a place - if it were not so I would have told you - that where I AM ye may be - I AM!"
(02:41:41) (ron) Who shall I say hast sent me? I AM THAT I AM!
(02:41:57) (ron) Does it not all remain then as a whole? For without Abraham, without Moses, yea without David what need could there be that Melchizedek, that Enoch, or Joseph, or Joshua, should again come in the flesh? fulfilling all?
(02:42:19) (ron) Have ye fulfilled all? When ye have, ye are One with Him - are ye not? Is it not a reckoning? It IS ! We are through for the present (1158-9)
(02:42:35) (ron) powerful words
(02:42:51) (true_eagle_mike) yes
(02:42:59) (ron) The following is noteworthy among the Readings because of its obvious first person narrative -
(02:43:25) (ron) In this present report, these we find conform to many of the ideas and SOME of the ideals. Be sure there is not too much difference made in ideas and ideals, for, as has so oft been given, these must of necessity be for the accomplishment of the purport of teaching,
(02:43:59) (ron) training, and giving to a waiting world the truths as may be exemplified in the individuals' lives, until that or those individuals may become one with that purport as is being set forth - AN IDEA MAY BE BEAUTIFUL, MAY BE WONDERFUL, BUT WITHOUT THE BACKGROUND OF AN IDEAL BECOMES AS BUT SOUNDING BRASS, OR AS THE GOURD WITHOUT WATER.
(02:44:40) (ron) In these things, then, let each be mindful of that place, that niche, that purport each is to fill, and fill that with all of the power, might, strength, that lies within that body! SO COOPERATE WITH OTHER INDIVIDUALS, WORKING IN THEIR INDIVIDUAL CAPACITIES THAT THE WHOLE PURPORT MAY BE AS ONE, EVEN AS THE FATHER AND I ARE ONE IN YOU.
(02:45:21) (ron) I SPEAK NOT OF MYSELF, BUT THAT YE MAY KNOW THE TRUTH, EVEN AS DELIVERED IN THE DAY WHEN I WALKED AMONG MEN AND BECAME KNOWN AS THE SON OF MAN, AND THE SAVIOR OF A BE-KNGHTED RACE.
(02:45:47) (ron) Here, my brethren, ye are come again to fulfill, in this place, a glorious principle, a glorious article of work among the sons of man. Let each, then, in that power that may be gained in that association of the forces as manifest through each, become one in purpose. (254-50)
(02:45:56) (true_eagle_mike) the lord of host is with thee
(02:46:05) (ron) now, i don't think there are any doubts as to who was speaking!
(02:46:32) (Anonymous) no no doubt
(02:47:20) (ron) The following excerpts from the 254 series, or "Work Readings" are extremely important...And with the final paragraphs of 254-92 seem to sum up quite well the entire relationship of spiritual guidance from outside sources.
(02:47:33) (Blu) explains why cooperation is the first chapter in the SFG series
(02:47:57) (ron) (254-83) 2/14/35 The members of the Executive Committee of Group 9* of the A.R.E., some of whom are present in this room, salute Thee with greetings of deepest love and thank Thee for again bringing to us the ministry of our kind and helping leader, Edgar Cayce.
(02:48:39) (ron) Realizing that when science investigates the works of God on the higher planes as it has done on the material plane, spirituality will truly come into its own proper place in the consciousness of humanity, we hereby petition your indulgence and cooperation in bringing to us the following information,
(02:49:03) (ron) as the questions are asked, for the more perfect functioning of the work of Edgar Cayce and the Association from this time on, if same meets with your pleasure to do so.
(02:49:29) (ron) E.C. YES, WE - FROM THE SOURCE OF ALL KNOWLEDGE THAT IS PROMISED IN HIM - SALUTE THEE, and give that which will be helpful to those who seek to be in the ministry of those influences and forces that make for more and more awareness of the divine in each and every soul, that - applied in the experience of each entity, each soul - will bring that day of the Lord that is at hand to those who will hear His voice.
(02:50:11) (ron) THEN, FROM THE HEIGHTS OF THOSE EXPERIENCES, THOSE HIEARCHIES IN THE EARTH AND IN THE AIR, WE COME AS MESSENGERS OF TRUTH TO THOSE WHO WILL HEAR, AND QUESTION.
(02:50:58) (ron) Q. For the better and more rational presentation of the work of Edgar Cayce to the world, will you, if you consider same in order, kindly inform us of Thine Identity and the source or sources from which you bring us the information given in answer to our questions in the Readings other than the Physical? Is it from the Astral?
(02:51:32) (ron) A. (interrupting) From the universal forces that are acceptable and accessible to those who in earnestness open their minds, their souls, to the wonderful words of truth and light.
(02:51:56) (ron) Q. To what extent are the Masters of the Great White Brotherhood directing the activities of Edgar Cayce? Who are the Masters directly in charge?
(02:52:15) (ron) A. Messengers from the higher forces that may manifest from the Throne of grace itself.
(02:52:57) (ron) Q. Who are the Masters directly in charge? Is Saint Germain -
(02:53:12) (ron) A. (interrupting) Those that are directed by the Lord of lords, The King of kings, Him that came that ye might be one with the Father.
(02:53:59) (ron) Q. Is Saint Germain among; them? Who is Halaliel?
(02:54:17) (ron) A. These are all but messengers of the Most High. Halaliel is that one who from the beginning has been as a leader of the heavenly host, who has defied Ariel, who has made the ways that have been heavy - but as the means for the UNDERSTANDING.
(02:55:52) (ron) see, they do have choices, but they deal with things invisible...they are highly advanced in evolution...so their choice is always for the betterment of all creation
(02:56:03) (ron) that is my view of this heiarchy of life
(02:56:42) (ron) Q. Is Saint Germain among them?
(02:56:51) (ron) A. When needed.
(02:57:02) (ron) this person is persistent
(02:57:24) (ron) Q. Please give us Thine Identity?
(02:57:35) (ron) some more impressive conversation
(02:57:50) (ron) A. HE THAT SEEKS, THAT HAS NOT GAINED THE CONTROL - SEEKS d**nATION TO HIS OWN SOUL! CONTROL THINE INNER SELF THAT YE MAY KNOW THE TRUE LIFE AND LIGHT! FOR HE THAT WOULD NAME THE NAME MUST HAVE BECOME PERFECT IN HIMSELF!
(02:58:37) (ron) or, there is no turning back with an excuse of ignorance
(02:59:00) (ron) Q. If Mr. Cayce is a member and a messenger of the Great White Brotherhood, how do the Masters wish him to proceed and should not his activities henceforth be presented as Their Work?
(02:59:35) (ron) A. As the work of the Master of masters, that may be presented when in those lines, those accords, necessary through the White Brotherhood. This - this - THIS, my friends, even but LIMITS; while in Him is the Whole.
(02:59:59) (ron) WOULD THOU MAKE OF THY SELF, OF THYSELVES A LIMITED MEANS OF ACTIVITY? WOULD THOU SEEK TO BE HINDERED BY THOSE THINGS THAT HAVE MADE OF MANY, CONTENDING FORCES THAT CONTINUE, WAS ONE WITH ANOTHER EVEN IN THE AIR, EVEN IN THE ELEMENTAL FORCES?
(03:00:35) (ron) For He, thy Lord, thy God, hath called thee by name, even as He has given, "Whosoever will drink the cup, even as of my blood, he may indeed be free". While ye labor, let HIM that is the author, that is the finisher, that IS the Life, that is the bread of life, let HIM alone be thy guide! Dost He call any soul into service, then by name will He - does He - designate, and to whom it becomes a charge to keep -
(03:01:16) (ron) even as He has walked with him, THIS BODY THAT YE USE AS A CHANNEL OF APPROACH TO THE THRONE; YE MAKE OF SAME OFT AS A LAUGHINGSTOCK TO THY VERY SOUL THROUGH THINE OWN SELFISHNESS!
(03:01:41) (ron) Let the light of Him, thy Christ, thy God, IN that it may cleanse thy body, that it may lighten thy soul, that it may purge thy mind, that ye will only be just gentle, just kind; not finding fault with any, for with faults ye build barriers to thine own soul's enlightenment. I, THY GOD, THY CHRIST, BESEECH THEE! (254-83)
(03:02:25) (ron) Mr. C.: 0 ye children of light, that come seeking to know the will of thy God through the light that has been given thee! In thy activity let thy light shine, IN THEE, that others may know, may see - IN thee - that thou hast been in close communion with Him who is the light.
(03:02:52) (ron) For in Him is no darkness at ALL! So, let thy thought, thy acts, thy conversation one with another, be so permeated with that love as He gave, that ye may know that there is no approach save through that awareness within thine own self that makes ye one with Him.
(03:03:23) (ron) Let thy ways be His ways. Let that which prompts thee be not of thyself, but He - thy Lord, thy God - working in and through thee. For thou hast been called unto a service in Him. Then let thy prayer, thy meditation, be "Not my will but Thine, 0 Lord, be done in and through me".
(03:03:54) (ron) Q. Would it meet Thy Will and the Will of the Father, if, henceforth, the readings given by Edgar Cayce should be designated as pronouncements of Thee and the Father, given as is justified by the merit of those asking?
(03:04:14) (ron) A. THIS IS THE CONDITION; THIS IS THE ACTIVITY. Yet be ye all things to all men; thereby ye may save the more. For he that declares as a name, in a name, save in the universality of the Father, limits the ability of the seeker, of the channel through which that glory may come to any.
(03:04:45) (ron) Learn, rather, that given: By what name shall I say that I am sent? "I AM THAT I AM." That rather than in any name of this, that or the other manner. The I AM that seeks may gain, then, that access to the I AM that brought, brings, holds, the worlds in their place.
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(03:05:19) (ron) Q. May we ask with propriety by what name Thou didst call Thy servant Edgar Cayce during Thine Incarnation on earth ?
(03:05:37) (ron) A. Lucius.
(03:05:57) (ron) As has been given, ye have in thine own hands, thine own minds, that which is unexcelled in manifestations of His at-oneness with the Creative Forces manifesting in the earth. YET MAN, IN HIS MISCOMPREHENSION, MISUNDERSTANDING, MAKES SAME EITHER THAT GLORIOUS EFFECT OR BECOME THE LAUGHINGSTOCK OF HIM THAT PASSETH BY.
(03:06:25) (ron) Look upon those that were called into service as was Saul, the son of Kish; as was Jeroboam, the son of Nebat. These came by the Divine call from out of their own brethren, and were endowed with that which would make for such a manifestation as had not before been seen in the earth. Yet counselors of these made them but laughingstocks to the nations roundabout.
(03:06:56) (ron) SO, IN CHOOSING CHANNELS, IN CHOOSING WAY, IN CHOOSING MEANS, BE THOU VERY SLOW; YET MAKE HASTE. FOR THE DAY OF THE LORD IS AT HAND AND THE RECKONING OF MANY IS NIGH UNTO THEIR OWN DOOR
(03:07:20) (ron) So, in thine choosing channels, in choosing way, in choosing means, be thou very slow; yet make haste. For the day of the Lord is at hand and the reckoning of many is nigh unto their own door. (254-85)
(03:07:58) (ron) (254-92) 12/16/36 Work and plans of the Association for Research & Enlightenment, Inc., in studying and presenting the psychic work of Edgar Cayce. We seek counsel and guidance in carrying forward this work. You will consider the affairs of the Association under the general heads which will be presented and answer the questions that will be asked.
(03:08:20) (ron) Mr. C. Yes, we have the work of the Association for Research and Enlightenment, Incorporated; and its plans and its endeavors in presenting the work, the psychic information as may be given through Edgar Cayce.
(03:08:34) (ron) First, as we would give, for general information and for study of those who may undertake in any way to present information of a psychic source or where it may be an influence in the lives of individuals: First, as a corporation, as an organization, the Association for Research & Enlightenment, Inc., presents a problem for consideration in itself.
(03:08:58) (ron) Know that all the laws as pertain to the activities are the same, and that what has come into materialization first has had its inception in the mental and the spiritual realm, and is as perfect a body in those realms (or the more perfect, dependent upon the basis of the inception or the desire that has brought it into being) as it is in the material plane.
(03:09:24) (ron) And, as has ever been given, those influences are the same in applying or in relationships to such organizations as about any individual or any individual organization. And the same laws apply in same.
(03:09:43) (ron) Thus in seeking information as to the conducting of the affairs and of carrying forward the ideals and purposes of such an organization, consider the sources from which such information may come and as to what and as to how they apply toward what is set as the ideal. AND KNOW THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE IDEAL!
(03:10:12) (ron) But as has been given as respecting individuals, "He hath given His angels charge concerning thee, lest at any time ye dash your foot against a stone". It's just as applicable in any group organization as it is in an individual entity.