Post by WalksInSpirit on Oct 20, 2006 18:34:26 GMT -5
ARE - SELECTIONS FROM THE EDGAR CAYCE READINGS
by Esther Wynne
DESTINY: 10-20-06
by Esther Wynne
DESTINY: 10-20-06
ron says: ARE - SELECTIONS FROM THE EDGAR CAYCE READINGS by Esther Wynne
ron says: DESTINY: RESURRECTION (PERFECTION) OF THE BODY (EC's reading 1/20/35) April, 1955
ron says: That there should be those who should know heaven on earth or in the earth, or in flesh, is the destiny of those that are willing, who have had their minds, their bodies, their souls cleansed in the blood of the Lamb. How? By being as He, a living example of that He, the Christ, professed to be. 262-77, p. 1 par. 8.
ron says: "Refers to the millennium period when the body as well as the soul and mind will reach perfection" (Esther Wynne)
ron says: (EC's reading 5/12/35:) So does the body - whether it is sown in this or that environ, this or that plane of activity - become one' with His purpose, through the making of the will one with the spiritual import or activity; or it makes for the separations - that are to be met only in the material experience.
ron says: Hence the necessity; hence the judgment; hence the mercy, the justice shown by the All-Wise Creative-Force - that is so beautifully illustrated in the spring, summer, the fall, the winter - the returning again and again of the body of man for its purification.
ron says: Has not man demonstrated how the elements in the earth are purged of the dross by the fires of the furnace for their purification? Have not the weaklings in the flock or the unhealthy plants been made sturdy in their relationships of beauty in nature, by pruning, and making for those advancements again and again?
ron says: Arid yet some deny that the All-Wise, the All-Merciful Father would be so gracious to the sons of men who have erred in this a little thing! What hath the Maker of the heavens and the earth said? "They that are guilty of the least are guilty of them all!"
ron says: So, in the Destiny of the Body, make the will at-one with Him. How? Through the Mind of the body; knowing in thine self that what has been set, what is IS - as God. Yet in Christ may ye meet every trial, every temptation. For how hath He spoken? That though offences must come (and woe be to those by whom they come!)
ron says: He hath not allowed those to be tempted beyond that (in the body), above that which they are able to bear. How great, then, is the trust that He hath put in thee, that thou should bear the glad tidings of a risen Lord, an alive God in thine own experience? Ye that have chosen Him, as He hath chosen you, to be lights unto the sons of men. Quit ye yourselves, then, as He hath trusted in thee; trust ye in Him. 262-81
Blu says: That brings tears to my eyes
Blu says: That God has that much trust in me
diane says: yes...it's beautiful
ron says: i have always wondered if those that committed suicide were tested beyond they could bear (from the above paragraph)
Blu says: don't feel worthy of that
diane says: i think they despaired, ron
Blu says: It says that we are not tempted beyond what we can bear
diane says: despair is very overwhelming
ron says: (EC's reading 5-26-35:) Hence man in his awareness of sin, of the Christ Spirit, of that which makes him in all the phases of his experience awakened to that, may become aware of God's destiny for the soul.
Blu says: Tht is why we do not do this alone, we depend on each other and god with in
ron says: Shall it return empty handed or bearing thy name? As it has already been given, the Destiny of the Soul is to return to the Giver, the Maker. To man, in the body, does there remain the destiny of whether it, the soul, shall return (as of the creation) empty, or bearing the name. 262-82
diane says: right, Blu
ron says: (EC's reading 6/23/35:) Ye read, ye have heard it said, "I believe in the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. I believe in the resurrection of the body, the communion of saints: What meanest thou?
ron says: Has thou set aught in thine own experience against these words that He hath given? "Who is my mother, or by brethren? Whosoever shall do the will of the Father, the same is my mother, my brother, my sister."
ron says: These bespeak the activities of the Body before thy fellow man. Hast thou in thine meditation, in thine prayers and they supplication kept the faith that thou art His: That in Him ye live and move and have your being? This ye say; this ye do. How, ye ask? Love one another. 262-84
Blu says: That is the crux of the whole thing right there
ron says: Q-8. Is it true that destiny is the result of Will's activity on Karma?
ron says: A-8. It is and it isn't. Depends upon the approach of the phase of same. What has been thy lesson? The body-destiny depends upon the will, by the use of the mind, that is of the spirit.
ron says: If the mind is to gratify the body without the consideration of the spirit, that destiny is made, see? For to say the body of an individual, ir an entity, is soul and then to say God hath not willed that any soul should perish, is not conformity. For will the will of man over-ride God, or will man be ground to that necessity for his own awakening?
ron says: yes
ron says: Ye that worry and are troubled, ye that are doubtful and fearful, who hath brought this upon you? God: God hath not at any time tempted man, but if ye will but accept it He hath prepared with every temptation, with every fault in man, a way of escape.
Blu says: THANK GOD
diane says: LOL
ron says: And the will of man is just combative. But the end of the soul must be back to its Maker.
ron says: But what manner of body ye will carry depends upon thy will, yes. 262-85
ron says: (EC's reading 8/11/35:) First there is the Destiny, as we have indicated, of the Mind; that is both material and spiritual.
Blu says: will is combative, first time I have heard that...put that way...very interesting
ron says: Then there is the Destiny of the body, as we have indicated. And it is held by some that, the body being of the earth-earthy it is born into the earth, dies and returns to earth. this has been set by the sages of old, and would indicate that the body - being of that phase of experience or existence - remains in its sphere; that while changes come about, it remainth.
ron says: Yet the pattern has been shown by Him who entered into the earth that we through Him might know Live, and in having life have life more abundant.
ron says: As the question has been asked, when y say "I believe in the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit; I believe in the holy church, in the resurrection of the body," what meanest thou? The spiritual body or the material body?
ron says: What meanest thou? also (as will be approached, for it must be all a portion of the one) as to the communion of the saints" Bodily" With what body? Spirit? With whose spirit, their own or God's?
ron says: In the body, then, we have the body, the mind, the soul; each representing a phase of man's experience or consciousness.
ron says: The Destiny that is spoken of in these, then, is of the Body-Physical; that which is manifested in the earth in materiality, in matter; that has taken form, represented by an individual that has been given a name to designate its body from other bodies of similar nature. What of it?
ron says: As the body (this body spoken of) is the temple of the living soul, temple of God - what of it?
ron says: As the body (this body spoken of) is the temple of the living soul, temple of God - what of it? Is it to become dust again and again; yet being associated with the soul, the spirit of the individual that has been lent such, or had used such in creation as to the abode of their existences, their experiences: Is it to see corruption? Is it to be lost entirely? Is it to be glorified, spiritualized? How was His Body?
diane says: resurrected
ron says: As the body is a portion of the structure in which the manifestations of the individual, as a portion of the Whole, are carried on it - that body - is then in keeping of its keeper. so what will you do with same?
diane says: glorified
ron says: God hath not ordained that any Soul should perish! What of thy body: Hast thou ordained, hast thou so lived, hast thou so made thy Temple that being untenable thou dost not care for its glorifying?
diane says: Don't ask. ;-)
ron says: ok
ron says: very good diane :)
Blu says: boy do I feel the conviction of the Holy spirit right now
diane says: Join the club!
ron says: Ye attempt, rightly, to adorn thy body for thy fellowman. Dost thou care less for thy God than thy fellow man? Dost thou purge the body, as He hath given, that it may be made whole for thine soul? What is to come depends upon what thou hast done, what thou wilt do with the opportunity which is, has been and will be thine for the glorifying of same.
Blu says: dang
ron says: If ye would be like Him, then so live, so conduct thyself, that thy body may again and again be brought into such relationships that it may be raised; a glorified body to be known as then very own!
Blu says: well, at least I am not treating my fellow man any better than I treat God...no make up here!
diane says: Amen
ron says: That thou mayest have been called this, that and the other case may make for confusion to many. But when ye say Creative Force, God, Jehovah, Yah(?), Abba, what meanest thou? One and the same thing, carrying through in the various phases of thine own consciousness; or of those who in their activities seek, as thou (if thou seekest aright), to be one with Him yet to know self to be self. I AM, in and with the GREAT I AM.
ron says: The Destiny of the Body, then, lieth with the individual. 262-86
diane says: ooo boy
ron says: (EC's reading 8/11/35:) Q-3. What is meant by the resurrection of the body? What body?
ron says: A-3. That body thou hast taken in thine individuality to draw upon, from matter itself, to give it shadow or form, see?
diane says: which one?
Blu says: yes Edgar, I see
ron says: As may be seen by a study of the information which has been given though these sources as to the various appearances of an individual soul-entity in their earth, sometimes the body is six foot two, again four foot five; fair of hair, sometimes very dark of complexion. What has the Book written of same? Man looketh on the outward appearance; God looketh on the heart.
Blu says: the one we are in
diane says: which lifetime?
Blu says: all of them
diane says: what?
Blu says: all the bodies we have ever used
Blu says: they are all wrapped up in one
diane says: sharing one soul?
diane says: oh...ok
ron says: This is the same, but why the change?
Blu says: Well, we know that nothing good is ever lost
diane says: yeah
Blu says: so maybe we have brownie points tacked up somewhere, and what we face now are remnants of things we still have to face
ron says: yes, diane, but only one physical form at one time...the physical, dense body
diane says: so ...take the best bodily assets from each incarnation, and produce perfection
Blu says: So if in one life time lets say you over came a drug addiction
diane says: ok
Blu says: this time you have to over come another kind of addiction
Blu says: or maybe have to learn to exercize
Blu says: something like that
diane says: am doing great with that, lately
Blu says: AWESOME!
diane says: seeing and feeling amazing changes!
Blu says: each time it might get a little easier to over come
ron says: In entering into materiality, that thou hast used of spirituality or Creative Force makes for the development that has been in the experience of the entity or soul-body, see?
diane says: yep
ron says: The as it appeareth in the earth, what has been the builder ever? MIND! Mind of what? Of the entity! as associated with the creative-Force; drawn by those environs into which it has come in its various experiences. The matter is drawn, as it were, of the soul and of the soul-entity. Hence with what Body shall ye be raised?
Blu says: I have seen that soul body thing in a dream
diane says: but the final resurrection...an amalgam of physical traits...right?
Blu says: maybe diane
diane says: ok
ron says: The same Body ye had in the beginning! or the same body that has been thine throughout the ages! else how could it be individual!
diane says: does EC answer that directly, I wonder?
Blu says: at some point we would have to put it all together some how
ron says: Q-4. Is the body aware of the destiny of the physical body at birth?
diane says: same Body as ye had in the beginning?
ron says: A-4. God Himself does not know what man will destine to do with himself, else would He have repeated that He had made man? He has given man freewill. Man destines the body!
diane says: which one?
Blu says: the one we design
ron says: Q-5. Moses taught the laws of health to the children of Israel. If we should strictly follow these or similar laws, would it make for a perfect body, a better mind and more soul development?
diane says: prolly
ron says: the one the soul is working on now!! diane
ron says: now!! is the sum total
diane says: what of the other lifetimes?
diane says: are those bodies just cast offs
diane says: I suppose they are
ron says: A-5. It may make for a better body, a better mind. As to the soul development, this depends upon the use of same in thy experience. Did the high office of priesthood make Nadab or Abihu better, or have more soul ,development? They used that they had for their own destruction! Did the office of being chosen by God Himself to be the King over his brethren make Saul a better man? Was he better as the prophet, as the king, or as the dead king?
diane says: we should be improving, in each incarnation, so i suppose this is the best one yet
ron says: becoming better in the body, and at times, we backslide and thus produce a not so good a body...since the body is the outer reflection of what is inside
diane says: true...inner beauty is the key
diane says: though...as in burn victims, for example...not their fault, yet hideously scarred
Blu says: each thing is to be met individually
ron says: right diane...beauty..or inner beauty is the best answer...the soul spiritual status is not determined from the apprearance of the body...would you say this is true?
Blu says: over come one line at a time
diane says: Yes, I would, ron...Mother Theresa was no beauty queen, outwardly
Blu says: If the soul or mind body fights to over come and does the best it knows how to do that would count for something
Blu says: But if it gives in to despair and lack of faith , then that must be met
diane says: Absolutely!
diane says: yep :-(
ron says: i wonder about that...a particular soul has chosen to experience a certain karmic event in order to make a change of direction...that is, to come to closer to God
Blu says: So it is not the scarring of the body that would carry through, but the facing and over coming that would carry through
diane says: that's really something to consider, ron
diane says: but, above, didn't something in the readings say God does not know which course an entity will take?
Blu says: yes
ron says: yes...its up to that developing soul as to when it wants to change direction
ron says: and, from what i've learned from the readings, its the sufferring (karmic) that will cause the soul to reconsider
diane says: And God knows exactly how we will end up...yet, He doesn;t
diane says: Such a conundrum. lol
ron says: right diane, sufferring, pain or death will change one's mind
Blu says: well, let me expound on your thought Di
diane says: maybe, and maybe not...I mean, perhaps change one for good...or possibly evil, ron
diane says: ok Blu
ron says: DESTINY: RESURRECTION (PERFECTION) OF THE BODY (EC's reading 1/20/35) April, 1955
ron says: That there should be those who should know heaven on earth or in the earth, or in flesh, is the destiny of those that are willing, who have had their minds, their bodies, their souls cleansed in the blood of the Lamb. How? By being as He, a living example of that He, the Christ, professed to be. 262-77, p. 1 par. 8.
ron says: "Refers to the millennium period when the body as well as the soul and mind will reach perfection" (Esther Wynne)
ron says: (EC's reading 5/12/35:) So does the body - whether it is sown in this or that environ, this or that plane of activity - become one' with His purpose, through the making of the will one with the spiritual import or activity; or it makes for the separations - that are to be met only in the material experience.
ron says: Hence the necessity; hence the judgment; hence the mercy, the justice shown by the All-Wise Creative-Force - that is so beautifully illustrated in the spring, summer, the fall, the winter - the returning again and again of the body of man for its purification.
ron says: Has not man demonstrated how the elements in the earth are purged of the dross by the fires of the furnace for their purification? Have not the weaklings in the flock or the unhealthy plants been made sturdy in their relationships of beauty in nature, by pruning, and making for those advancements again and again?
ron says: Arid yet some deny that the All-Wise, the All-Merciful Father would be so gracious to the sons of men who have erred in this a little thing! What hath the Maker of the heavens and the earth said? "They that are guilty of the least are guilty of them all!"
ron says: So, in the Destiny of the Body, make the will at-one with Him. How? Through the Mind of the body; knowing in thine self that what has been set, what is IS - as God. Yet in Christ may ye meet every trial, every temptation. For how hath He spoken? That though offences must come (and woe be to those by whom they come!)
ron says: He hath not allowed those to be tempted beyond that (in the body), above that which they are able to bear. How great, then, is the trust that He hath put in thee, that thou should bear the glad tidings of a risen Lord, an alive God in thine own experience? Ye that have chosen Him, as He hath chosen you, to be lights unto the sons of men. Quit ye yourselves, then, as He hath trusted in thee; trust ye in Him. 262-81
Blu says: That brings tears to my eyes
Blu says: That God has that much trust in me
diane says: yes...it's beautiful
ron says: i have always wondered if those that committed suicide were tested beyond they could bear (from the above paragraph)
Blu says: don't feel worthy of that
diane says: i think they despaired, ron
Blu says: It says that we are not tempted beyond what we can bear
diane says: despair is very overwhelming
ron says: (EC's reading 5-26-35:) Hence man in his awareness of sin, of the Christ Spirit, of that which makes him in all the phases of his experience awakened to that, may become aware of God's destiny for the soul.
Blu says: Tht is why we do not do this alone, we depend on each other and god with in
ron says: Shall it return empty handed or bearing thy name? As it has already been given, the Destiny of the Soul is to return to the Giver, the Maker. To man, in the body, does there remain the destiny of whether it, the soul, shall return (as of the creation) empty, or bearing the name. 262-82
diane says: right, Blu
ron says: (EC's reading 6/23/35:) Ye read, ye have heard it said, "I believe in the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. I believe in the resurrection of the body, the communion of saints: What meanest thou?
ron says: Has thou set aught in thine own experience against these words that He hath given? "Who is my mother, or by brethren? Whosoever shall do the will of the Father, the same is my mother, my brother, my sister."
ron says: These bespeak the activities of the Body before thy fellow man. Hast thou in thine meditation, in thine prayers and they supplication kept the faith that thou art His: That in Him ye live and move and have your being? This ye say; this ye do. How, ye ask? Love one another. 262-84
Blu says: That is the crux of the whole thing right there
ron says: Q-8. Is it true that destiny is the result of Will's activity on Karma?
ron says: A-8. It is and it isn't. Depends upon the approach of the phase of same. What has been thy lesson? The body-destiny depends upon the will, by the use of the mind, that is of the spirit.
ron says: If the mind is to gratify the body without the consideration of the spirit, that destiny is made, see? For to say the body of an individual, ir an entity, is soul and then to say God hath not willed that any soul should perish, is not conformity. For will the will of man over-ride God, or will man be ground to that necessity for his own awakening?
ron says: yes
ron says: Ye that worry and are troubled, ye that are doubtful and fearful, who hath brought this upon you? God: God hath not at any time tempted man, but if ye will but accept it He hath prepared with every temptation, with every fault in man, a way of escape.
Blu says: THANK GOD
diane says: LOL
ron says: And the will of man is just combative. But the end of the soul must be back to its Maker.
ron says: But what manner of body ye will carry depends upon thy will, yes. 262-85
ron says: (EC's reading 8/11/35:) First there is the Destiny, as we have indicated, of the Mind; that is both material and spiritual.
Blu says: will is combative, first time I have heard that...put that way...very interesting
ron says: Then there is the Destiny of the body, as we have indicated. And it is held by some that, the body being of the earth-earthy it is born into the earth, dies and returns to earth. this has been set by the sages of old, and would indicate that the body - being of that phase of experience or existence - remains in its sphere; that while changes come about, it remainth.
ron says: Yet the pattern has been shown by Him who entered into the earth that we through Him might know Live, and in having life have life more abundant.
ron says: As the question has been asked, when y say "I believe in the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit; I believe in the holy church, in the resurrection of the body," what meanest thou? The spiritual body or the material body?
ron says: What meanest thou? also (as will be approached, for it must be all a portion of the one) as to the communion of the saints" Bodily" With what body? Spirit? With whose spirit, their own or God's?
ron says: In the body, then, we have the body, the mind, the soul; each representing a phase of man's experience or consciousness.
ron says: The Destiny that is spoken of in these, then, is of the Body-Physical; that which is manifested in the earth in materiality, in matter; that has taken form, represented by an individual that has been given a name to designate its body from other bodies of similar nature. What of it?
ron says: As the body (this body spoken of) is the temple of the living soul, temple of God - what of it?
ron says: As the body (this body spoken of) is the temple of the living soul, temple of God - what of it? Is it to become dust again and again; yet being associated with the soul, the spirit of the individual that has been lent such, or had used such in creation as to the abode of their existences, their experiences: Is it to see corruption? Is it to be lost entirely? Is it to be glorified, spiritualized? How was His Body?
diane says: resurrected
ron says: As the body is a portion of the structure in which the manifestations of the individual, as a portion of the Whole, are carried on it - that body - is then in keeping of its keeper. so what will you do with same?
diane says: glorified
ron says: God hath not ordained that any Soul should perish! What of thy body: Hast thou ordained, hast thou so lived, hast thou so made thy Temple that being untenable thou dost not care for its glorifying?
diane says: Don't ask. ;-)
ron says: ok
ron says: very good diane :)
Blu says: boy do I feel the conviction of the Holy spirit right now
diane says: Join the club!
ron says: Ye attempt, rightly, to adorn thy body for thy fellowman. Dost thou care less for thy God than thy fellow man? Dost thou purge the body, as He hath given, that it may be made whole for thine soul? What is to come depends upon what thou hast done, what thou wilt do with the opportunity which is, has been and will be thine for the glorifying of same.
Blu says: dang
ron says: If ye would be like Him, then so live, so conduct thyself, that thy body may again and again be brought into such relationships that it may be raised; a glorified body to be known as then very own!
Blu says: well, at least I am not treating my fellow man any better than I treat God...no make up here!
diane says: Amen
ron says: That thou mayest have been called this, that and the other case may make for confusion to many. But when ye say Creative Force, God, Jehovah, Yah(?), Abba, what meanest thou? One and the same thing, carrying through in the various phases of thine own consciousness; or of those who in their activities seek, as thou (if thou seekest aright), to be one with Him yet to know self to be self. I AM, in and with the GREAT I AM.
ron says: The Destiny of the Body, then, lieth with the individual. 262-86
diane says: ooo boy
ron says: (EC's reading 8/11/35:) Q-3. What is meant by the resurrection of the body? What body?
ron says: A-3. That body thou hast taken in thine individuality to draw upon, from matter itself, to give it shadow or form, see?
diane says: which one?
Blu says: yes Edgar, I see
ron says: As may be seen by a study of the information which has been given though these sources as to the various appearances of an individual soul-entity in their earth, sometimes the body is six foot two, again four foot five; fair of hair, sometimes very dark of complexion. What has the Book written of same? Man looketh on the outward appearance; God looketh on the heart.
Blu says: the one we are in
diane says: which lifetime?
Blu says: all of them
diane says: what?
Blu says: all the bodies we have ever used
Blu says: they are all wrapped up in one
diane says: sharing one soul?
diane says: oh...ok
ron says: This is the same, but why the change?
Blu says: Well, we know that nothing good is ever lost
diane says: yeah
Blu says: so maybe we have brownie points tacked up somewhere, and what we face now are remnants of things we still have to face
ron says: yes, diane, but only one physical form at one time...the physical, dense body
diane says: so ...take the best bodily assets from each incarnation, and produce perfection
Blu says: So if in one life time lets say you over came a drug addiction
diane says: ok
Blu says: this time you have to over come another kind of addiction
Blu says: or maybe have to learn to exercize
Blu says: something like that
diane says: am doing great with that, lately
Blu says: AWESOME!
diane says: seeing and feeling amazing changes!
Blu says: each time it might get a little easier to over come
ron says: In entering into materiality, that thou hast used of spirituality or Creative Force makes for the development that has been in the experience of the entity or soul-body, see?
diane says: yep
ron says: The as it appeareth in the earth, what has been the builder ever? MIND! Mind of what? Of the entity! as associated with the creative-Force; drawn by those environs into which it has come in its various experiences. The matter is drawn, as it were, of the soul and of the soul-entity. Hence with what Body shall ye be raised?
Blu says: I have seen that soul body thing in a dream
diane says: but the final resurrection...an amalgam of physical traits...right?
Blu says: maybe diane
diane says: ok
ron says: The same Body ye had in the beginning! or the same body that has been thine throughout the ages! else how could it be individual!
diane says: does EC answer that directly, I wonder?
Blu says: at some point we would have to put it all together some how
ron says: Q-4. Is the body aware of the destiny of the physical body at birth?
diane says: same Body as ye had in the beginning?
ron says: A-4. God Himself does not know what man will destine to do with himself, else would He have repeated that He had made man? He has given man freewill. Man destines the body!
diane says: which one?
Blu says: the one we design
ron says: Q-5. Moses taught the laws of health to the children of Israel. If we should strictly follow these or similar laws, would it make for a perfect body, a better mind and more soul development?
diane says: prolly
ron says: the one the soul is working on now!! diane
ron says: now!! is the sum total
diane says: what of the other lifetimes?
diane says: are those bodies just cast offs
diane says: I suppose they are
ron says: A-5. It may make for a better body, a better mind. As to the soul development, this depends upon the use of same in thy experience. Did the high office of priesthood make Nadab or Abihu better, or have more soul ,development? They used that they had for their own destruction! Did the office of being chosen by God Himself to be the King over his brethren make Saul a better man? Was he better as the prophet, as the king, or as the dead king?
diane says: we should be improving, in each incarnation, so i suppose this is the best one yet
ron says: becoming better in the body, and at times, we backslide and thus produce a not so good a body...since the body is the outer reflection of what is inside
diane says: true...inner beauty is the key
diane says: though...as in burn victims, for example...not their fault, yet hideously scarred
Blu says: each thing is to be met individually
ron says: right diane...beauty..or inner beauty is the best answer...the soul spiritual status is not determined from the apprearance of the body...would you say this is true?
Blu says: over come one line at a time
diane says: Yes, I would, ron...Mother Theresa was no beauty queen, outwardly
Blu says: If the soul or mind body fights to over come and does the best it knows how to do that would count for something
Blu says: But if it gives in to despair and lack of faith , then that must be met
diane says: Absolutely!
diane says: yep :-(
ron says: i wonder about that...a particular soul has chosen to experience a certain karmic event in order to make a change of direction...that is, to come to closer to God
Blu says: So it is not the scarring of the body that would carry through, but the facing and over coming that would carry through
diane says: that's really something to consider, ron
diane says: but, above, didn't something in the readings say God does not know which course an entity will take?
Blu says: yes
ron says: yes...its up to that developing soul as to when it wants to change direction
ron says: and, from what i've learned from the readings, its the sufferring (karmic) that will cause the soul to reconsider
diane says: And God knows exactly how we will end up...yet, He doesn;t
diane says: Such a conundrum. lol
ron says: right diane, sufferring, pain or death will change one's mind
Blu says: well, let me expound on your thought Di
diane says: maybe, and maybe not...I mean, perhaps change one for good...or possibly evil, ron
diane says: ok Blu