The Early Church/Shadows Of The...: 10-06-06

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The Early Church: 10-06-06

ron says: now i was going to do more with the Tarot but i forgot to email out the pictures (cards)...key 0 the Fool and key 1, the Magician...so, instead i'll do something regarding the Early Church

diane says: Early church? How early?

Blu says: I'm with you Ron! lead on

ron says: just after the the resurrection

ron says: now, this text is a series of 3 or 4 text files

ron says: i made a note to send them out...i believe i have the email addresses of those interested in having theose pictures/cards...if anyone is interested and you think i do not have your email address, just drop me a note telling me so

Leon says: ron your information on tarot has prompted me to learn to do tarot readings. I'm in the study phase for now.

Blu says: wow Leon

ron says: good leon

ron says: THE EARLY CHURCH: THE ESTABLISHING OF THE CHURCH AT JERUSALEM

ron says: To the question once asked, "What is the Holy Church?" Cayce replied, "That which makes for the awareness in the heart of the individual.

ron says: "An INDIVIDUAL SOUL becomes aware that it has taken that Head, that Son, that Man, even, to be the intermediator. THAT is the Church; that is what is spoken of as the Holy Church. "What readest thou? 'Upon this I will build my church.' .

one_big_fool says: the rock

ron says: "What church? The Holy Church. Who is the head? That one upon whom the conditions had been set by that question asked. For here ye may find the answer again to many of those questions sought concerning the Spirit, the Church; the Holy Force that manifests by the attuning of the individual, though it may be for a moment.

one_big_fool says: pierre fr. meaning rock

ron says: He asked, 'Whom say men that I am? Then Peter answered, 'Thou are the Christ, the son of the living God! Then, Upon this I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

ron says: . He said to Peter, Flesh and blood...hath not revealed this unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. Heaven? Where? Within the hearts, the minds; the place where Truth is made manifest!"

ron says: This explains the reference Cayce sometimes made to "that ye know as the church," or "that now known as the church," when speaking of the organization, the organized activity of the followers of the Christ.

ron says: The real church, he says, is not a body, not an assembly, not an organization. Over and over he reminds. his hearers of these truths: "There is only one Church - even Jesus the Christ!" and "The Church is within self and not in any pope or preacher, or in any building, but within self!"

ron says: "The Church is within self and not in any pope or preacher, or in any building, but within self!"

one_big_fool says: nice quote

ron says: Nevertheless, even m the larger sense, It may be said that the Church began with the activities at Pentecost following the ascension of the Master; for it was at this time that there began the true awareness of the Christ within, with. the pouring out of the Holy Spirit upon the apostles.

ron says: After the death and resurrection of Jesus, Cayce tells us, great changes came in the experience of many of the people of Palestine and those who had been in authority among the various groups of the Jewish leaders.

ron says: "For when there were those reports of his resurrection there were the attempts of the Romans to put aside the questioning of the Jews, but many sought to know. And with the questioning which arose as to the real divinity of Jesus -

ron says: through and by the experience of those who saw and talked with those who knew the facts concerning what had taken place -

Blu says: got to love that man

ron says: the realization and the wonderment of it all dawned upon many of that land; so there was then the humbleness in their activities for the time. And, as the days passed, there were those who were turning more and more to the tenets pertaining to the activities in Jerusalem."

ron says: These activities in Jerusalem spoken of here were undoubtedly those that began with the experience at Pentecost. Before that time, however, there were the important activities of a less public nature.

ron says: "During those periods of activity after the crucifixion and resurrection of the Master, and the various meetings that took place, those gathered in the upper room who believed in, were looking for, the promises of the coming of the outpouring of the Holy Spirit."

ron says: Those closely associated in Bethany included many besides the apostles. After the return of the apostles from Galilee and the ascension of Jesus, Mary, his mother, "became a dweller in the home of John, who joined with those in Bethany, hence the associations of Mary the sister of Martha, and John became the closer after this."

ron says: Mary, the mother of Jesus and the other Mary became bosom friends, and "there was the imbibing of the other Mary and Mary Magdalene of those tenets that were indicated oft by John in the repeating, especially, of the last hours of the Master."

ron says: Cleo, the daughter of Andrew, "was among those who were active following the crucifixion in caring for the upper chamber where the disciples and those first followers gathered. Her activities brought blessings to the many, making that chamber as a home, a church, a meeting place, a hopeful experience for those throughout that period."

ron says: Others who were said by Cayce to have been closely associated with the apostles and present upon the occasion of the outpouring of the Holy Spirit included Mariaerh, who had come to Jerusalem for the Passover and remained with the Holy Women in and about Bethany; Eunice,

ron says: who had come with Mary, Josie and the other Mary at the time of the crucifixion; Martha, the wife of Nicodemus; Ulai, in whose home Mary had lived for a time; and Lucius of Cyrene, a kinsman of Luke, with his sister, Nimmuo.

ron says: Lucius, though mentioned only briefly in the Bible as a teacher and a companion of Paul, was, according to Cayce, an important figure in the early church and active in it from its beginning.

ron says: Lucius and Nimmuo were among four children in a home that had been of the faith of the Samaritan Jews, said Cayce, but tempered with the teachings of the Grecians and Romans, for they were of Grecian and Roman parentage and in the early portion of Lucius's experience of the city of Cyrene, later living in Laodicea.

ron says: The land in which they lived was "under the direct rulership of the Romans, not as in those areas of Palestine where there were the Jewish rulers overseeing, or being superseded by the Jewish religious groups or sects of people. Thus there were those variations of the customs that were a part of those peoples, the influence of both the Grecian and the Roman, according to the tenets of the peoples of the time....

ron says: "That particular portion of Asia of which Lucius and Nimmuo were a part had long been under the supervision of the Roman Empire. There had been the attempts of many of those put in authority from the Roman Empire to give every advantage to those who offered promise of being in sympathy with those rulings,

ron says: or who were in the position to be conducive to making for activities in accord with such rulings. Thus we find that all the family of Lucius and Nimmuo were among those having the greater advantage of the educational facilities of the time."

ron says: Yet the associations and influences were not always of the best, for "much of the lewdness of that period had come from the Grecian and Roman peoples that had become a part of that portion of the land," and the area around Laodicea was peopled with those combinations of Grecians, Romans and Jews that had been expelled from portions of Galilee.

ron says: "As a developing youth and young man Lucius was known rather as a ne'er-do-well, or one that wandered from pillar to post, or became, as would be termed in present day parlance, a soldier of fortune.

diane says: a wild and crazy guy. lol

ron says: "When there were those activities in and about Jerusalem and Galilee of the ministry of the man Jesus, Lucius came into those environs. Being impelled by the experiences with the followers and the great lessons given by the Teacher, he became as one that was a hanger-on, and of the very intent and purpose that this was to be the time when there was to be a rebellion against the Roman legions, the Romans in authority.

Blu says: we know a few of those

ron says: And Lucius looked forward to same, acting in the capacity of not an informant, but rather as one attempting to keep in touch with the edicts of the various natures between the political forces in Rome and the political forces among the Jews.

ron says: "Lucius was disregarded and questioned by those who were of the Jewish faith who were the close followers of the Master, yet was among those that were sent as those who were to be as teachers, or among the seventy.

ron says: "With the arousing, and the demanding that there be more and more of the closer association with the Teacher, Lucius, being of the foreign group, was rejected as one of the apostles, yet was questioned, mostly by John, Peter, Andrew, James, and those who were the closer affiliated or associated with Thomas.

ron says: "With those activities that eventually arose in Palestine, and the ministry in the northernmost portions of the land, during the teachings and travellings of the Master, those very close in the family of Lucius also came under the direction of those teachings.

ron says: Then, with the changes wrought during the periods of the trial, the crucifixion, and then the happenings which came about from the reports spread abroad as to what were the actual conditions existent when the hour of the crucifixion had come, then the third day, and the reports of his rising again, and of his meeting with the disciples at the Sea of Tiberius (or Galilee), and then the ascension upon or horn the holy

ron says: mount these brought to that family wonderment and interest.

ron says: "So, with the repeating of that as, had been the experience of the brother, little wonder that the sister was desirous of knowing more of those happenings, desirous of seeing, experiencing, being in contact with individuals who had actually seen and heard the words of the Master, desirous of meeting those who had been healed by the laying on of hands, by merely the word spoken, desirous of hearing those who had eaten of bread created by the word of that Teacher.

ron says: "Thus, though young in years, being around sixteen years of age, Nimmuo, with the brother, journeyed to the environs in which those things; those experiences had, been an actual, living part of the experience of those many' individuals.

ron says: "Being in the position of not only being countenanced by but friends of those in authority, though there were questionings, yet there was, honor shown these two through there activities in that Journey through the Holy Land, across the Sea of Galilee,

ron says: , down those portions of the Jordan, through Perea, to Bethany, into the city itself, the house of Martha and Mary and Lazarus, the acquaintance of the mother, Mary, and the rest of the family that had been gathered by John, then, as in keeping with that command from the cross.

ron says: "Each of these individuals heard again and again much of that which has been lost by the attempt of individuals to interpret in the varied tongues." There were the stories told of what had happened in Bethany, "how Mary had been cleansed from those activities and experiences little of which until then had even been spoken of in the presence of Nimmuo."

ron says: Also, they heard much of Martha, "the one sedate, calm, never venturing to offer her body, ever, in those activities that had made Mary the byword of so many; also those stories as to how word had been sent to the Master as to the illness of Lazarus, his visits, and the eventual bringing forth, after four days in the tomb."

ron says: They heard of the experiences of Lazarus as he, himself, had given, "as to his experience or consciousness in that period of the inter-between, as to what had happened, as to how there had arisen that. consciousness, that movement within, when that voice had called, 'Lazarus, come forth!'"

ron says: Then came the day of the Pentecost, when there were the mighty gatherings; when Lucius and Nimmuo and Mariaerh and Eunice and those many peoples beheld in awe the outpouring of the Holy Spirit, when the Spirit "descended as in tongues of fire and sat upon that body of the twelve;"

ron says: heard that speech of Peter when he spoke in tongues - "or as he spoke in his own tongue," said Cayce, "it, the message, was heard by those of every nation in their own tongue."

ron says: These experiences "so impressed Lucius that there came a re-dedicating, and the determination within self to become the closer associated with, the closer affiliated with the disciples or apostles."

ron says: "The many of many lands," Cayce continues, "were brought to conviction by the teachings of the apostles on that day, and especially in that memorable one of Peter's." Perhaps the experience of Eunice, into whose life had come so much of disappointment and fear and hate, was typical of these.

ron says: When she "heard her own kinsmen speak in tongues, seeing the great tumult and the activities wrought," said Cayce, there "was builded that determination within the experience and heart of the woman to bring the greater knowledge, the greater awareness of the spirit of truth, as was indeed manifested by him that shed, through the tenets of his disciples and apostles the new light to men:

ron says: that hate and those things that make afraid may be put away, and that positions of power or wealth or fame may be set at naught compared to the peace that came and is the understanding of those who have seen and known and become aware of his presence abiding."

ron says: When there were the first attempts for organized effort on the part of the teachers or. apostles, as is recorded in the book of Acts, all the material belongings of those who joined in this fellowship became as a part of the apostles, and they were "with one accord together."

diane says: yes..socialistic

ron says: The number of these became exceedingly large, for three thousand were baptized on the first day of the apostles teaching, and the number was added to daily. It was necessary to choose some people to act as deacons or ministers to the needs of the great throngs of people, or in the words of Cayce, "the distribution of the needs of those that had set themselves and their only worldly goods to be used by those in authority in the church," for many confusions arose.

ron says: "There were those," said Cayce, "who were entirely of the circumcision; there were those chosen who were of the uncircumcised group, yet. were identified with services in various forms in that which had been adopted by the Samaritan Jews. Some of these facts became problems (that were unnecessary in their particular activity, or for their beliefs) in the teachings of Peter, John, James, who were the chief spokesmen during those periods."

ron says: With Stephen, Philip, and others, according to Cayce, there was chosen a young man named Philas who was at the time only a little past nineteen years of age. Philas "was of that group of people from Seleucia who came to Jerusalem during those days of the Pentecost, when there was an outpouring of the Holy Spirit upon the apostles who had been warned to tarry in Jerusalem until that day."

ron says: He was among those who were students of the law, those who were interested in the questionings concerning the interpretations of the Mosaic law by the priests and rabbis of the day, and "the interesting facts and fancies that had come from the eastern lands from which the wise men had come. These, as parts of the teachings, had become adopted by those groups of the Essenes of which John and Joseph had been a part before the entering of the Master, Jesus, into the earth."

ron says: "Philas was of a group not wholly either Jewish or Grecian, but one interested in same, because of the background, genealogically, of the things happening.

ron says: He journeyed to Jerusalem because of the interest aroused by hearsay and the expectance among the peoples, the great throngs. As a student he was aroused to the possibilities and probabilities of the activities to which the individuals might give themselves, or contribute to, or gain something from, as to add to the interest in living."

ron says: He had not been acquainted, directly, until this period, with the individuals who had been associated with the Master as disciples, now apostles, or those who had been very close in the activity.

ron says: On the journey to Jerusalem, however, Philas became closely associated with Stephen, who, after the joining of so many to the efforts of the apostles on the day of Pentecost, "became the treasurer of the organization that became a necessity, in that record keepers had to be appointed because of the great amount of contributions of various natures to those peoples."

ron says: With the establishing of the church in Jerusalem, Martha, the wife of Nicodemus, "was among those who aided Stephen and Philip, as well as others of various lands. For it was with these that Martha first became acquainted with Luke and Lucius who later became the heads of various organizations in other portions."

ron says: Stephen was a close friend of Lucius, Luke, "and those of the younger group that became the companions of the teachers." These relationships were in the nature of counsel from Martha, to whom Stephen, Luke, Lucius and Mark, "as the younger of the disciples (not apostles but younger of the disciples) went for counsel." For Martha "was one acquainted with the law," and she taught the law to the young ones, the children who sought knowledge.

ron says: When the persecutions began, Martha "withdrew more and more because of the associations with those in authority, but her home became more and more a place of refuge and help for all of the young of the church."

ron says: this is the end of the first series of 4 files...should i continue?...change to another subject?..or, first take a break?

Blu says: break

diane says: a break is good

tre_eagle_mike says: k

ron says: ok a little break

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Shadows Of The Great Cycle In The Pyramid: 10-06-06

ron says: i think this text has some of the Readings in it

ron says: SHADOWS OF THE GREAT CYCLE IN THE PYRAMID

ron says: THE GREAT PYRAMID: A PROPHECY IN STONE

ron says: THE PYRAMID TIMELINE

ron says: …the Mayan Calendar was carved in stone, and stands as one of humanity’s oldest sources of prophecy. What many people are not aware of is that there is yet another prophecy in stone, far more specific in details than the Mayan calendar. This would be the Great Pyramid of Gizeh in Egypt.

ron says: It may come as a great surprise to many readers that a complete timeline for the evolution of humanity spanning the last 4000 years and extending 1000 more into the future, is written, in stone, directly into the internal passages of the Great Pyramid. This is not written in words, but rather through the use of a comprehensive numerological system.

ron says: Understanding this system may at first seem difficult, as it is not a "typical" way of doing things, but the method is quite internally consistent and extremely mathematical and logical.

ron says: The most important aspect of generating a mathematical code would be to make a symbolic ‘alphabet’ to work off of, which all other measurements could then use. In order to do this you would assign each number 1-12 a specific meaning. Certain other numbers related to various mathematical functions could also be used.

ron says: . In order that your code may not be lost, you would carefully preserve its memory within the culture, in this case the Egyptian priestly caste, and thereby introduce your number system into many myths worldwide. We can see that similar numerical encoding was done through the work of Santillana and Von Deschend in Hamlet’s Mill, which we already covered.

ron says: Then, through skillful combination of numerology, geometry and symbolism, it would be possible to turn these symbolic numbers into a language. You would actually read the passages in the Pyramid themselves as time, counting the years as you traveled forward.

ron says: The keys to unlocking the meanings in the timeline would then become the height and width of the passages, the degree measurements of the various angles inside, the general direction the passageways travel in, and the basic quality of the stone that the passages are made with -- either granite or limestone. All of these measurements, except the direction and the material used, can be expressed in numerical fashion.

ron says: why i'm so interested in the Great Pyramid, is that i helped build it with Ra-Ta...i was one of those guys that carried some of those big stones on my shoulders :)

Blu says: wow

ron says: i was just a little guy back then :)

Blu says: lol

ron says: ok...enough fooling around

tre_eagle_mike says: k

ron says: A passage going up and/or to the right would represent progress, while a passage going down and / or to the left would represent decline. Hard granite would represent the spirit, soft limestone the physical body, and physical world. Years could be counted off in Primitive Egyptian Inches, carefully measured as we travel through the narrow passageways.

ron says: like in dreams, right?

Blu says: ok

ron says: turning to the right indicates that one is going in the right direction...making the "right" decision

ron says: ok

ron says: The height of the passage suddenly rises, say at 3 AD, and you would make the new height just the right measurement in inches to convey the massive symbolic explosion of progress that had just occurred.

ron says: There are additional ways to refine your mathematical code. Each horizontal layer of blocks that make up the entire structure of the pyramid could be counted from the ground up in courses, and their numbers worked in to the meaning.

ron says: By using the courses in such a manner, the new height discussed in the previous paragraph could tie in to a symbolic angle measurement, and then the course number could be added to provide even greater detail.

ron says: We must be reminded that mathematics is the only true universal language. If you use 360 degrees to measure a circle, a 33-degree angle will always read the same no matter what historical time period you are in.

ron says: You could write all the predictions you wanted in obscure hieroglyphics, but without something to decipher them, they are useless. We could then say that the Pyramid code itself could be in danger of obsolescence, but mathematics is different than an alphabet of letters; the laws remain constant.

ron says: The author of Great Pyramid Decoded, Peter Lemesurier, takes the time to carefully explain how this code naturally arises as you count forward, emerging from the basic symbolic meanings of each number.

ron says: A more metaphysical explanation would say that the number meanings themselves are etched into the collective consciousness of humanity, and existed as universal truth long before we built our structure. Then, even if all records were lost, the answers would still come to the initiate in dreams and visions.

ron says: Interestingly, Edgar Cayce spoke of this timeline while in a trance state, despite the fact that he was uneducated and obviously had no interest in the symbolic significance of the Pyramid, coming from a strict Fundamentalist Christian background. Here is his reading from June 30, 1932 that explains the point, with special emphasis added by the author.

ron says: Then... there began the building of that now called Gizeh... the Hall of the Initiates... This, then, receives all the records from the beginnings of that given by the priest... to that period when there is to be the change in the earth’s position and the return of the Great Initiate to that and other lands for the folding up of those prophecies that are depicted there.

ron says: All changes that came in the religious thought in the world are shown there, in the variations in which the passage through same is reached, from the base to the top- or to the open tomb and the top. These are signified by both the layer and the color [and] in what direction the turn is made.

ron says: This, then is the purpose, for the record and the meaning to be interpreted by those that have come and do come as the teachers of the various periods, in the experience of this present position, of the activity of the spheres of the earth...'

ron says: Even if we are loath to acknowledge that something like this could really be a fact, the timeline still exists, and many authors have shown that it has already targeted many events with amazing precision. Furthermore, Cayce’s reading again hints at the ‘present position of the Earth in terms of the ‘activity’ of its ‘spheres.’

ron says: The word ‘spheres’ is plural, not singular, meaning that there is more than one sphere. We can infer from this, when combining it with the other readings in question, that these spheres represent different energetic or dimensional levels surrounding the Earth’s physical sphere.

ron says: Cayce also states that the Pyramid was built to triangulate upon ‘the time when the Earth shifts its position,’ which as we have already seen appears to be coming up very soon, as a product of the Sun’s activity. Again, Cayce has this date at 2001. Cayce also speaks of the Solar Cycles, correlating it with the rise and fall of various civilizations, including Atlantis.

ron says: as a product of the Sun’s activity.

ron says: then the earth shifts its position

ron says: what would that be?...increase sun spots for instance?

Blu says: I dunno

ron says: For starters, in case anyone tries to attack the starting date of the Pyramid Timeline as being open to interpretation, we can show that it is quite definite. The start date was precisely fixed through a very rare conjunction where the Scored Lines, a set of vertical lines in the Descending Passage near the entrance, aligned with the Pleaides star cluster directly overhead.

ron says: This was also timed to coincide with the star Alpha Draconis shining directly down into the bottom of the Descending Passage.

ron says: This alignment has many similarities to the popular alignment discovered by Robert Bauval, where he demonstrates that the three pyramids of Gizeh are the same in relative size and orientation to the stars in the belt of the constellation Orion. Bauval goes on to show that the entire Egyptian plain was built as a physical map of the heavens.

Blu says: ;-)

ron says: The proximity of the Nile River to the three pyramids is precisely the same as the proximity of the Milky Way to the stars in Orion’s belt. This is becoming almost "common knowledge" now in many metaphysical circles, being frequently covered in such areas as documentary programs seen on The Discovery Channel.

ron says: Bauval derived his time code is by finding out when the physical pyramid layout of Gizeh was directly lined up with the heavens. Through the drifting action of the precession, which we have already mentioned, there is only one time per cycle that the celestial Orion could line up with the terrestrial Orion,

ron says: and that was around 11,450 BC. Amazingly, Edgar Cayce’s readings said that the pyramid was built from 11,490 to 11,390 BC, so it is clear that Bauval's information triangulated perfectly with Cayce's.

ron says: The dating for the Pyramid Timeline is equally intriguing, as it also uses a precise astronomical alignment modulated by the precession in order to encode its time. Bauval showed in his own work that all the ‘air shafts’ in the Pyramid line up precisely with certain stars in the sky, but only within a time period usually considered to be the mainstream Pyramid Age.

diane says: ya lost me there

Blu says: how di?

diane says: never mind!

diane says: I forgot to go backward in time...BC

Blu says: LOl

ron says: This time period is also in sync with the Pleaides / Alpha Draconis lineup. Thus, once we have the start date, all we have to do is start counting in the basic measurement unit for years, which is the Primitive Inch.

ron says: The point is, one can attack the prophecies of Edgar Cayce or Nostradamus all they want, but we will see that they can’t attack the Pyramid’s timeline once it is properly explained. The principal Pyramid book we will draw off of for this timeline is the impeccable Great Pyramid Decoded by Peter Lemesurier.

ron says: In a sense, with unbelievable numbers of diagrams and exceedingly minute scientific detail for those who choose to read all the footnotes, his book has essentially become the Bible of the Pyramid Timeline.

ron says: In order to get an idea of the effect that it has had on established critics, Lemesurier cites a quote on the back of the book from Anthony Smith, from the BBC Kaleidoscope.

ron says: ...I find it a very, very remarkable book. At the end of reading it I felt that either I should throw it out of the window, or that I should throw every other book in my room out of the window and keep just it.

ron says: This is an erudite statement of the massive effect that this book has on the reader’s mind. The author remembers well the tremendously epic feelings that he experienced as he walked down the street on a bright sunny day, knowing that the Timeline was real. It was pure ecstasy, as it proved that such visionary feats were possible.

ron says: Lemesurier’s book essentially proves that somehow, the builders could see a crystal-clear picture of the future, and with even the most conservative dates for the Pyramid’s age at 2,500 BC, this becomes an incredible proof that such future predictions can occur.

Blu says: I just put it on my Christmas wish list

ron says: how does this work with mankind's "free will" ?

ron says: no one has really thought about that...or wondered how or why

Blu says: I think I know why

diane says: why would that impact free will?

ron says: A variety of predictions in the past have been made with the Great Pyramid Timeline, and these include the following. First we have the date, then the encoded prediction, followed by the events in society:

Blu says: God has a time line Di

diane says: ok

ron says: BC 2623 (summer solstice): Entrance of passage system -- Construction (?) of Pyramid begins during reign of Pharaoh Khufu.

ron says: seems like confusion here

Blu says: where?

ron says: 2141 (spring equinox): (Scored Lines aligned with Pleiades) -- (Datum-year for Pyramid's chronograph)

diane says: technical stuff

ron says: construction date

Blu says: well, Cacye's date has never fit inwith common historical stuff

ron says: so, i guess one must wait and see the conclusion

ron says: 1453 (30th March): Inception of new upward path -- Jewish exodus from Egypt.

ron says: 797-765: Formative period of favorable development -- 13th Israelite Jubilee?

ron says: 592-559: Formative period of adversity -- Early Babylonian captivity of Jews and destruction of Solomon's Temple. Decline of Egypt. Era of darkness immediately preceding the sudden dawning of Buddhism, Confucianism, Taoism and, in Europe, the Pythagoreans.

ron says: apparently these dates, i think, are taken from what is called, the pyramid inch, or primitive inch

ron says: 384-352: Favorable formative period -- Era of Plato and Aristotle.

ron says: 2 (27th Sept.): Birth of central Messianic figure -- Birth of Jesus of Nazareth.

ron says: AD 29 (14th Oct.): Preparation of Messianic figure completed (?) -- Baptism of Jesus of Nazareth (?)

ron says: 33 (1st April): Achievement of full enlightenment by Messianic figure: inception of path of the enlightened -- Crucifixion of Jesus of Nazareth.

ron says: 46 (March) - 58 (April): Mission of lesser Messianic figure -- Missionary journeys of Paul to the non-Jewish world. Birth era of Buddhist notion of salvation by faith in a Boddhisatva (savior.)

ron says: 58-82: Period of physical death and destruction -- Era of Nero, Vespasian, Titus. Jewish revolt and war.

ron says: 70: Central event of period -- Sacking of Jerusalem by Titus.

ron says: 152: Separation of discarnate path of the enlightened from the static path of physical rebirth -- Final break between Nazarenes, official Judaism, and Christians.

ron says: 1223-28: Man begins to "come of age": return to the basics of the Messianic teachings: first steps towards establishment of hell on earth -- Death of Francis of Assisi: Franciscan and Dominican reform. Thomas Aquinas. Tentative establishment of modern scientific principles: Bishop Grosseteste, Friar Bacon.

ron says: 1440-1521: Crucial events leading directly to the age of hell on earth -- Invention of printing-press in Europe; fall of Constantinople; the Renaissance; the Reformation; re-discovery of America; circumnavigation of the globe.

ron says: 1767-1848: Idealistic time of physical turbulence -- American War of Independence; French Revolution; Napoleonic Wars, further revolutions in France, Austria, Hungary, Germany, Italy. Marxism founded.

ron says: 1845: Initial steps in the foundation of the Final Age -- Spread of effects of Industrial Revolution; railways; invention of telegraph; rapid development in all branches of science; in the arts, the Romantic era; dawn of Orientalism in Europe.

ron says: After 1845, a peculiar thing happens before we reach the King's Chamber. There is an element known as the "Great Step," and no one seems to know what to do with it. Lemesurier assigned a mathematical transformation to the length of the timeline at this point, and at first glance it appeared quite valid.

ron says: In previous editions of this book we commented on some of the interesting synchronicities that this modified timeline seemed to predict. However, the key period of February 1999 came and went with no fanfare, certainly nothing of the sort that would need to be etched in stone for all future generations to see.

ron says: We believe that the original reason for why Lemesurier did not want to accept the typically-used dating system is that it ended too quickly. He simply thought this was "illogical" and thus applied his Great Step transformation to buy us more time, thus reducing the length of the counting unit. However, in the process a bias was introduced into the data. On the other hand, if we actually go back to the Edgar Cayce readings, he gave '58 to '98 as a general testing period.

ron says: This length of time is 40 years, or two J-S conjunctions. We remember the Biblical connections to the 40-year period of time. And when Cayce was asked directly about the time period signified by the King's Chamber, which is essentially the end of the entire Timeline, he said, "'58 to '98."

ron says: j=jupiter s=saturn conjunctions
diane says: ty

ron says: Cayce called it a 40 year grace period as to what choices the world was going to make...i felt the choice was made when the pope went to Poland and the Iron Curtain fell

ron says: it was over!

ron says: In other words, it appears that we are now in the final stage of this entire timeline, which has already predicted so many other events accurately in the past - most noticeably the Ascension of Jesus, when the Grand Gallery suddenly comes into play, dramatically raising the height of the roof in the aptly-named Ascending Passage.

ron says: In the King's Chamber there is an empty tomb, and this is the symbol of no more death. We then also have two shafts that have been shown by Bauval and others to directly triangulate on stars in the Heavens. And thus, the ultimate message that the Pyramid Timeline seems to give us is of the Harvest.

Blu says: here you go Mike

diane says: lol

tre_eagle_mike says: the mayan pryimids.. has 365 steps.. for each day of the year....jus a freak accident.....NOT !yepp

tre_eagle_mike says: then thers the mayan calinder

tre_eagle_mike says: that time line

ron says: The starting date was set, the ending date is now and the only place that we have left to go is through the star-shafts. Death is transcended, life is renewed and the capstone is returned to the top of the Pyramid.

ron says: The formerly incomplete spiritual nature of humanity, symbolized by the six-sided pyramid without a capstone, is replaced by the five-sided pyramid in its new perfected form, representing the final renewal of humanity in a "New Order of Ages." (Novus Ordo Seclorum.)

ron says: However, something that most researchers never consider is that the star-shafts also could symbolize those who would travel from the stars to the Earth, to assist us through this time where normal death is transcended -- just as Jesus underwent in his own Pyramidal initiation and subsequent self-transformation.

ron says: hmmm...

ron says: Clear evidence has shown that the image on the Shroud of Turin appears to have been burned in by an incredible source of Light. With a dimensional shift of this magnitude coming our way, it is foolish for us to assume that something like this might not happen.

Blu says: normal death is transcended

ron says: However, David's readings have informed us that for most people, there will be a "pick-up" at the moment that the critical threshold is released, and only after this Exodus within a super-high-tech form of Noah's Ark is complete will the Pole Shift happen.

diane says: So let me see if i have this anywhere near straight. These momentous dates were pre determined. But the events were not, just the dates were, right?

Blu says: welllll

Blu says: you mean as in world war etc Di?

diane says: Birth of Jesus, etc

ron says: early pyramidologist tried to establish dates to the various passage ways...but it seems to me that Kings Chamber does symbolize the present New Age...and does symbolize that the meaning of death would be understood

tre_eagle_mike says: free will .. we can save ... if we .. or we can distroy

diane says: the outstanding historical events all occurred in the general time frame indicated by the pyramid

Blu says: These events were set, Jesus had to die on the cross, that could not be avoided, how we responded to it was up to us

diane says: yes

diane says: but Timeline - wise...the era was indicated by pyramid/heavens

diane says: right?

Blu says: yes

diane says: the event itself...seems we are filling in the blanks

tre_eagle_mike says: an the word came down.. u hav a chance ..

ron says: i would say so diane, especially the religious and spiritual aspects of humanity...such as the birth and death of Jesus and then the upward swing of humanity spiritually as indicated by the Grand Gallery

diane says: I agree, ron

Blu says: by filling in the blanks you mean?

tre_eagle_mike says: as cayce sais we can save it.. or we can distroy

diane says: yes...we are given a General time...a span of several years, by the pyramid, right?

tre_eagle_mike says: we dont make the right choises... jesus .. comes back.. possable future

Blu says: yes

ron says: the time of Jesus' birth is acurate!...if you look at the pyramid picture i sent everyone

diane says: I know

ron says: if you don't have any idea as to what the pyramid's interior looks like it will be difficult to understand what the writer is saying

tre_eagle_mike says: an god gave man dominion over the earth... o k god .. we screwed up

diane says: but was it not in a time frame...? It was exact?

ron says: yes

Blu says: exact

tre_eagle_mike says: yes ron

diane says: oh...ok. Wow

diane says: ok...continue

ron says: Jesus allowed himself 10, 500 years of preparation

Blu says: or us

diane says: not long for perfection. lol

tre_eagle_mike says: if u rememgandfather/stalking wolf .. said the same thing

Blu says: with the advent of grace perfection no longer necessary

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ron says: and all is based on great cycles, such as the pressional cycle so much spoken of...i will go into that so we know exactly what that is...we will try to understand...this goes for me as well

tre_eagle_mike says: him an cayce... like 2 peas ..in a pod

diane says: sounds good ron

ron says: thus Jesus and other advanced souls could anticipate whend to act and anticipate the downwardd trend of humanity, that is, spiritually

diane says: like now

Apple says: or 2 seeds in an apple

Blu says: LOL

tre_eagle_mike says: u turn the news on .. we r on a downward spiral

ron says: i read somwere that the Essenes preparation for the Incarnation, took 300 years...their entire exsistance up to that point

diane says: cozy arrangement...hmmm

tre_eagle_mike says: yea A

tre_eagle_mike says: there will b wars an rumors of wars . an it still not the end

diane says: alright, i think i get it...ty. continue

ron says: 3 = perefection

Apple says: t_e 'warning' look no further than your mirror

tre_eagle_mike says: ty

tre_eagle_mike says: alas .. i am good .. u judge me

ron says: well, there is a lot of shootings going on now adays, isn't there?

tre_eagle_mike says: yea duck ron

ron says: wars and rumours of wars, famine etc

tre_eagle_mike says: yes .. so it is written

diane says: judges us all, oneself included. a mirror to the soul

ron says: i will continue

ron says: However, David's readings have informed us that for most people, there will be a "pick-up" at the moment that the critical threshold is released, and only after this Exodus within a super-high-tech form of Noah's Ark is complete will the Pole Shift happen.

tre_eagle_mike says: k

ron says: In short, we have nothing to worry about, and should not underestimate the power of the higher forces when they are around us so consistently at this time in history. And even if you don't believe that it is going to happen this way, if "they" do show up at your door, don't hesitate!

Blu says: well I confess I wish I knew what that meant

Apple says: not in my mind ,ron-- actually rather peaceful

ron says: remember the intercession that took place during world war 2...well, it seems to me that the next intercession will be taking place soon...what do you think?

Blu says: something is definately up

ron says: whatever is good for you Apple :)

ron says: well, i'm a veteran...i see a lot of young people dying....what do you see?

Apple says: it includes you ron and I thank you

diane says: by intercession, do you mean inter-c. in the holocaust?

ron says: In short, we have nothing to worry about, and should not underestimate the power of the higher forces when they are around us so consistently at this time in history. And even if you don't believe that it is going to happen this way, if "they" do show up at your door, don't hesitate!

Blu says: the ARE group prayed

ron says: Don't ask to bring anything with you, don't worry about anything. This is your moment. This is your day. Enjoy your graduation, and walk down the aisle of the wedding of flesh to Spirit without fear or reservation. You will be returning to an Earth that is the home we have all wished for.

diane says: The amazing people that gave their lives to stop that atrocity were hero's

Blu says: And Hitler was defeated

ron says: THE EGO AND THE QUEST FOR ACCEPTANCE

diane says: new topic?

Apple says: I see a world a world groaning during a change in mans ascention to be one with

Apple says: GOD

ron says: continueing on...i think we almost finished.....unless you all wish to stop now

Blu says: me too Apple

ron says: whatever you wish to see Apple

Blu says: keep going ron

ron says: there is only about 15 more minutes is my guess

Blu says: I'm good

Apple says: continue yes

ron says: And so, we have arrived at our point of conclusion. Ra claims to have given this Pyramid to humanity, and we can see that the harvest was built-in to the design. Rather than struggling with the incredibly complex specifics about the timeline, (since it takes an entire book to properly explain,)

ron says: shutting down because the weight of evidence is too intense or just denying the entire batch of evidence in this book with a satisfying, arrogant laugh, let’s look at the big picture. If we really expect to get anywhere, we need to act like we’re watching a movie, and stop the small I, or the Ego, from raging inside of us.

ron says: The Ego demands that everything must stay the same – we work five days a week, hang out on weekends, and stare at a fast-moving, brightly colored glass box for recreation.

ron says: Perhaps something like God is out there, but it remains forever hidden and veiled, as we just become a cold lifeless corpse at the fearsome time of death, our consciousness forever expired. Our neat little world is perfectly explained because “they say” it is, and therefore nothing this fantastic could ever really happen.

diane says: the puter. lol

ron says: lol

ron says: That is precisely why very, very few are prepared for the Harvest, according to Ra. These forces would dearly love to teach us the very simple steps that we need to take in order to make the cut.

ron says: They dearly want to teach all of us how to prepare for this, the most fantastic moment we will ever experience as third-density beings – GRADUATION. This event represents the end of the suffering that the third density provides; it is a final, beautiful entrance into Utopia.

Blu says: I tryly believe that

ron says: i guess my point is Compassion!

Blu says: and I keep sabatoging myself

ron says: It is the “Heaven” so often written about by prophets and mystics, and it is very real. The abilities we will have far outstrip our wildest stretches of imagination.

ron says: The reason why so many Earth Changes have already occurred before the event itself is that we were not capable of learning any other way. We needed to be practically destroyed as a civilization to be slammed out of our perpetual slumber.

ron says: Our lives are giant dreams, where the only things that matter are the transient issues that surface day to day; money, relationships, work, paying the bills, et cetera. None of this matters one iota, except for its effect on how we treat others. We cannot deny the fact, though, that for now we must continue to go through the motions to preserve our physical bodies.

Blu says: that is so true

kazu says: I read the tale that Aperson in Europe catched hitler's voice in his taperecorder by chance.

kazu says: A person

ron says: What will matter the most in the near future of our physical world is how prepared we are for the continuing Earth Changes when all of these systems have dropped out from under us. These events will help us to respect that something much bigger than we had imagined is at work.

ron says: Many of us will suddenly know the forces of change that we have brought about ourselves; almost all will cower in fear at the apparent “wrath of God.” In actuality, this is natural karma, compassionately applied with never the slightest bit more than we need for balance, and designed as a learning tool.

kazu says: thr vpice cvame f??om spiritual@world

Blu says: courage Blu, courage!

ron says: Indeed, it becomes quite clear that the Shift of the Ages is the name of the game, the whole point behind all of the physically hopeless situations. Much of this book has been designed to show us how the millennial event horizon is the opening of a vortex through space and time – a vortex that we can pass into.

Blu says: ok Kazu

diane says: you're covered Blu...have great insurance

ron says: When the time is right, we will embark on a personal adventure more fantastic than anything we could have ever dreamed of. Indeed, no movie sequence or artist’s vision could possibly match the joy, beauty and peace of what will be. That, dear friends, is the joy of the Harvest.

Blu says: I have been to the open door Di and have ran each time

Apple says: in patience

ron says: As we can see, the information in this book is not a story of, “Oh well, I guess this is it, we’re all going to die.” What you, the reader, actually have here is the opportunity to take part in the most historic single moment of evolution in this planet’s history.

Blu says: yes, maybe getting prepped for the big day

ron says: But if you don’t want to know about it, you can choose not to. Again and again, these sources have emphasized that it is your own free will, your universal right to be protected from truth if you do not want to know the truth, that stops you from being clearly forewarned.

ron says: So let’s say you do want to know the truth. What we are talking about here is evolution of your true Self on the energetic, harmonic and light levels, or Spiritual Growth, as is so commonly talked about. Spiritual growth must, by nature of its design, involve your own choices every step of the way. It is not the will of the One to force you into preparing yourself for Harvest.

ron says: If you continue to resist, and in fact miss the whole thing, you must be allowed to make that choice. It is possible that you might be unaware that it ever even happened afterwards. Without your freewill choices in place, there is no growth; you would be an automaton who would never really learn anything, just going through the motions.

diane says: To some, that ain't so bad. lol

kazu says: Hitler , from the spiritual world told into this recorder, that i am living. I am not dead

ron says: This evolutionary leap is as much personal as it is planetary, and that is the essential focus that most people are failing to see when examining the issues surrounding the now-obvious Earth Changes that are occurring, as predicted. This is a step that we must make within ourselves, and in fact the conditions of the larger world are not to be looked at as outside events, but rather as motivators for us to become ever more highly engaged in our own personal growth process.

ron says: The crux of the growth process that we are referring to here is the acceptance of other people, and of a desire to help them; a desire to act on behalf of others around us before taking actions that would be for our own individual gains.

ron says: When we begin understanding the way the universe truly works, that it is a universe of Oneness, we may then realize that helping others is in fact attending to our own One Being, meaning ourselves, the others, the entire planet and in essence, the entire Creation. It is only in our illusory feelings of being separate from the One that we would act, in fear, for our own interests first. END

diane says: ty ron

Blu says: Wonderful Ron!

Lynn says: WOW, ron.

Lynn says: confirmation of what I like to say to folks who choose to call me codependent

diane says: I watched an AWESOME movie last night called The Abyss. Theme was exactly what you just presented

ron says: i think this authors brief descriptions of the pyramid was flimsy and confusing to those that don't have any idea of its interior

Lynn says: taking care of me means taking care of those around me. LOL

Blu says: good enough Ron

Apple says: It could be that together -- shifting our consciousness to that Oneness--- that the earth itself will shift.

diane says: People who do not know its interior can still glean insight from what you presented

Lynn says: it is happening already, Apple

Blu says: yep

ron says: but this authors conclusion was Excellent i thought

Blu says: agrred Ron

diane says: me too

Lynn says: Apple, the things once hidden in the closet, such as child and wife abuse and others, are being dragged out of the closet. People are saying we cannot have this and passing laws.It is happening

Apple says: maybe so Lynn but I feel that that I'm not quite in my right mind-- my divine mind.

Apple says: ok

Apple says: !!!

ron says: well, did you know that the subconscious mind+conscious mind, or what is known as the Personality ...the sum total of experience=soul?

Lynn says: back Apple, here it is

diane says: no ron, i didn't

ron says: and, yet there is the Superconscious entity/mind

Lynn says: did you get it Apple, much information free there

ron says: thus, would you say, Spirit and soul?

diane says: and that's what we neglect to recognize...that at the core, we're all one big , Superconcious entity/mind

Apple says: I really think that as time goes we-- together in consciousness will be risen not necessarly separately

Lynn says: it is already happening

diane says: separate-ness is an illusion

Apple says: yes Lynn , you are precious to me thank you

ron says: the more one lowers in vibration, the more is the recognition of diversity, distinctions

Lynn says: good you got it. Its free . Its there. It works

diane says: I agree, ron

Lynn says: Before the sprakling darkness, before awareness, there must be other to express awareness the cry for other

Lynn says: Sacred Other you

diane says: basically that's why we're taught to Love thy neighbor as thyself, because our neighbor is ourself

ron says: i can acknowledge my existence with just one thought

Lynn says: the word is I, the companionship is you

diane says: what thought, ron?

Blu says: OK the part that bothers me is the part about few being harvested

Apple says: I agree diane, but contemplating superconscious mind, oneness and holy instant requires a'trust of others' and a 'faith' in christ's 'holy spirit'.

ron says: simply put ingeniously by Descartes, I Think Therefore I Am, or I think therefore I exist...now isn't that the same with the Creator...it only took one thought...and isn't that the same when one awakens from a deep sleep?

diane says: lol...yes! or from anesthesia

ron says: and when you awaken you awaken to what you'd created

ron says: lol diane

diane says: Shocking sometimes, to awaken

ron says: same as the Creator

ron says: lol

diane says: it's like "Yikes!"

ron says: yes. i'd rather go back to sleep lol

diane says: Puleeeeeeeese. Tell me it's all a bad dream! lol

Apple says: ron, there is som much 'knowledge' in what you are saying that for myself would require some period of 'silent' meditation.

Blu says: it's all a bad dream Diane

diane says: you think, Blu?

Blu says: yep

ron says: i purposly bring up things for others to think about...not that all are interested in metaphysical ideas...but that is something i enjoy very much

Apple says: somehow we wondered from good to the comical notion of 'bad'

Blu says: the real us is still before God

diane says: I 'd rather not hang out with you it you didn't bring them up, ron. lol

ron says: all of my above comments are based upon us being in the Image of the Creator

ron says: lol diane

diane says: we all have a comedic side, Apple

diane says: to balance out the tragic

ron says: bad, hurts...and i have seen how bad can hurt others...so, i lean towards Compassion...because i feel the pain of others whend they are hurt by the bad...because i have been hurt as well

ron says: but, unfortunately, i speak up when others seem to be taking advantage in one way or another

diane says: The hurt always conveys a lesson ron

ron says: compassion...isn't that a part of brotherhood?

ron says: and the Fruits of the Spirit?
Apple says: a women having a baby, painful-- but soon forgotten

ron says: yes, the Art of Forgetfulness

diane says: compassion? I think of it as an emotion, Charity is the Fruit of the Spirit'

Apple says: it the fruits of the spirit , yes , that are lasting

diane says: brought on by compassion. :-)