Post by WalksInSpirit on Dec 10, 2007 23:44:25 GMT -5
No Soul Left Behind: 12-10-07
(09:09:02) (@autogreeter) Good Evening. The Red Path Chat Room welcomes you to No Soul Left Behind Study, Hosted By GG (Lory).
(09:21:31) (@host-GG) Chapter XV "A Path to Peace" No Soul Left Behind
(09:22:09) (@host-GG) While wars and lesser forms of human violence have dominated the story of humankind, Cayce offers hope for the peace makers. Violence is not God's way, he says; and as the family of nations crowds closer together on the planet, people can find peace and harmony by giving up their quest for power and emphasizing their commonality, their brotherhood, rather than their differences. Peace is not a vain hope but a necessity for the human race to fulfill its destiny.
(09:23:07) (@host-GG) Q: We've talked a lot about ways to improve personal relations. What can we do to improve relations between nations to prevent wars?
(09:23:36) (@host-GG) A: "Man's answer to everything has been power ~~ power of money, power of position, power of wealth, power of this, that, or the other. This has never been God's way, will never be God's way." 3976-8
(09:24:01) (@host-GG) Q: Wasn't reliance on power ancient man's means of survival in the wilderness, using it to subdue the earth, so to speak?
(09:24:09) (merri) what about the Old Testament?
(09:24:24) (merri) Lots of violence there
(09:24:29) (@host-GG) A: "Man ~~ with his natural bent ~~ not only attempted to subdue the earth, but to subdue one another; and the result was the differences of opinions, the various sects, sets, classes, and races."
(09:25:18) (@host-GG) "As the earth was peopled, and the abilities of expansion were able to bring the various groups, or associations of groups or nations, they could ~~ and did ~~ withdraw into themselves, and build for themselves in the various portions of the world that known as the periods of advancement of some particular group of peoples." 3976-8
(09:26:02) (@host-GG) Q: Yes, today it is easy to forget that for centuries various peoples had little contact with other groups if they wished to remain isolated and at peace. Even the United States remained isolated behind the oceans until less than a century ago.
(09:26:50) (@host-GG) A: "As the world has advanced, all the various phases of man's developments have entered to make a different phase, either in the political, economic, or religious aspect of man's experience." 3976-8
(09:27:13) (@host-GG) Q: It is often said that times have changed in ways that influence our behavior, usually for the worse, often because life is not as simple as it once was for many of us. Is that a factor in world relations?
(09:27:53) (@host-GG) A: "As has been and is being understood by many, there are changes being wrought in the nation, as well as in the inter[national] relationships with other nations. All of these may be considered from the one angle. It is also understood, comprehended by some, that a new order of conditions is to arise; that there must be many a purging in high places as well as low;
(09:28:27) (@host-GG) that there must be the greater consideration of each individual, each soul being his brother's keeper. There will then come about those circumstances in the political, the economic, and the whole relationships where there will be a leveling ~~ or a greater comprehension of this need.
(09:28:59) (@host-GG) "For as the time or the period draws near for these changes that come with the new order, it behooves all of those who have an ideal ~~ as individuals, as well as groups or societies or organizations ~~ to be practicing, applying same in their experience and their relationships as one to another."
(09:29:23) (@host-GG) "For unless these are up and doing, then there must indeed be a new order in their relationships and their activities. For His ways will carry through. For as He gave, 'Though the heavens and the earth may pass away, my word will not pass away.'"
(09:30:10) (@host-GG) Sorry Merri, to answer your question, God had given free will to all men and apparently it was used in the old testament too.
(09:30:44) (@host-GG) "All to often has this message been forgotten in the pulpits and in the organizations, not only in the national relationships but in the international relationships. And as the dealing are as one to another, unless these are in keeping with those tenets they must fail; for all power in Heaven and in earth hath been given into His hands."
(09:31:59) (@host-GG) Q: Ever since the development of nation-states, conflicts across their borders have often led to military clashes, if not all-out war. Do you see any hope for settling such disputes peacefully?
(09:32:26) (@host-GG) A: "Though there may come those periods when there will be great stress, as brother rises against brother, as group or sect or race rises against race ~~ yet the leveling must come."
(09:32:51) (@host-GG) "And only those who have set their ideal in Him and practiced it in their dealings with their fellow man may expect to survive the wrath of the Lord."
(09:33:16) (@host-GG) "In your dealings, then ~~ whether at home, in your dealings with state or the national situations, or the international affairs ~ there must come all under that purpose, that desire."
(09:33:40) (@host-GG) "And then There should be, there will be those rising to power [who] are able to meet the needs. For none are in power but that have been given the opportunity by the will of the Father ~~ from which all power emanates. Hence those will be leveled with the purpose. 'My word shall not fail.'" 3976-18
(09:34:07) (@host-GG) Q: It seems like there is more violence than ever these days since the terrorist attacks of 9/11.
(09:34:42) (@host-GG) A: The author, A. Robert Smith, used the following quote to answer this question . . . "With the advent of the closeness of the worlds coming into being, so that the man upon the other side of the world is as much the neighbor as the man next door, more and more have been the turmoil that have arisen in the attempt of individual leaders or groups to induce, force, or compel one portion of the world to think as the other, or the other group to dwell together as brethren with one body of sympathy, or one standard for all." 3976-8
(09:35:57) (@host-GG) Q: The twentieth century was dominated by two world wars and threats of a third, and the Middle East is in continuous turmoil, torn by war and suicide bombings. Are we destined to keep repeating these violent ideological struggles rather than be reconciled to our differences?
(09:35:57) (merri) We know that
(09:37:06) (@host-GG) A: Again the author used the following quote to answer this question. "[The nations] have all come to that place in the development of the human family where there must be a reckoning, a one point upon which all may agree, that out of all of this turmoil that has arisen from the social life,
(09:37:32) (@host-GG) racial differences, the outlook upon the relationship of man to the Creative Forces or his God, and his relationships one with another, must come to some common basis upon which all may agree." 3976-8
(09:37:55) (@host-GG) Q: Many would say it is impractical to try to get such an agreement and impossible to achieve.
(09:38:25) (@host-GG) A: What has caused the present conditions, not alone at home but abroad? It is that realization that was asked some thousands of years ago. "Where in thy brother? His blood cries to me from the ground!" and the other portion of the world has answered, is answering.
(09:39:11) (@host-GG) "Am I my brother's keeper?" The world, as a world ~~ that makes for the disruption, for the discontent ~` has lost its ideal. Man may not have the same idea. Man ~~ all men ~~ may have the same ideal!" 3976-8
(09:39:47) (@host-GG) A: "Have you not found that the essence, the truth, the real truth is one? Mercy and justice; peace and harmony. For without Moses and his leader Joshua [that was bodily Jesus] there is no Christ. Christ is not a man! Jesus was the man; Christ the messenger;
(09:40:16) (@host-GG) Christ in all ages, Jesus in one. Joshua in another, Melchizedek if another; these be those that led Judaism! These be they that came as that child of promise, as to the children of promise; and the promise in is you, that you lead as He has given you, "Feed my sheep." 991-1
(09:40:48) (@host-GG) "As the Spirit of God once moved to bring peace and harmony out of chaos, so must the Spirit move over the earth and magnify itself in the hearts, minds, and souls of men to bring peace, harmony and understanding, that they may dwell together in a way that will bring that peace, that harmony, that can only come with all having the one Ideal; not the one idea, but
(09:41:10) (@host-GG) 'Thou shalt love the Lord Thy God with all thine heart, thy neighbor as thyself!' This [is] the whole law the whole answer to the world, to each and every soul. That is the answer to the world conditions as they exist today." 3976-8
(09:41:39) (@host-GG) Q: How can this be brought about?
(09:42:25) (@host-GG) A: "As [they] each in their own respective sphere put into action what they know to be the fulfilling of what has been from the beginning, so does the little leaven ; leaven [ferment] the whole lump.
(09:42:52) (@host-GG) Rather little by little, line upon line, here a little, there a little, each thinking rather of the other fellow, as that which has kept the world in the various ways of being intact ~~ where there were ten, even, many a city, many a nation, has been kept from destruction.
(09:43:26) (@host-GG) "Though you may look upon, or feel that what was given to Abram ~~ as he viewed the cities of the plain and pled for the saving of same ~~ was an allegorical story, a beautiful tale to be told children ~~ that it might bring fear into the hearts of those [who] would have their own say ~~
(09:43:52) (@host-GG) ~~ may it not come into the hearts of those now, today, will you, yourself, make of your own heart an understanding that you must answer for your own brother, for your own neighbor!"
(09:44:24) (@host-GG) "And who is your neighbor? He that lives next door, or he that lives on the other side of the world? He, rather, that is in need of understanding! He who has faltered; he who has fallen even by the way. He is your neighbor, and you must answer for him!" 3976-8
(09:44:59) (@host-GG) Q: What do you say to critics of this idealistic prescription who say it is a pipedream?
(09:45:33) (@host-GG) A: "Do you have ideals spiritually? Do you desire that you may be controlled of power and might, or do you desire power and might that you may glorify your Maker?"
(09:46:01) (@host-GG) "Determine these in yourself; not merely by saying 'Yes, I'll be a good boy.' But live it for a year, and come around, sonny, and we'll tell you." 3618-1
(09:46:32) (@host-GG) Is this saying, perhaps that our country should give into the Islamic terrorists? Does this sound like to you?
(09:46:56) (@blubearwoman) no
(09:47:00) (@blubearwoman) not in the least
(09:47:04) (merri) doesn't sound that way to me
(09:47:34) (@blubearwoman) But it does sound like we as a nation must find our ideal again
(09:48:16) (@host-GG) We give so much to other countries in the way of food, money, etc., is that not living up to our ideal?
(09:48:39) (merri) we also meddle where we shouldn't
(09:48:58) (@blubearwoman) I think we fail in our ideal when we continue to live on a supply of oil that does not belong to us
(09:49:12) (@host-GG) Are you referring to Iraq, Merri?
(09:49:18) (@blubearwoman) we have the ability to change our own usage and ways of using, but we do not
(09:49:36) (@blubearwoman) instead we go to war over oil
(09:49:41) (merri) yes but that isn't the only country we meddle in
(09:50:19) (@host-GG) Some of our own people protest our developing our own country for oil, Blu.
(09:50:41) (merri) not all energy comes from oil
(09:50:53) (@blubearwoman) I do. I do not think we should depend on oil, but allow those who have come up with clean alternatives develop those ideas
(09:51:07) (merri) big business has kept other sources from being developed
(09:51:22) (@host-GG) That is true Merri. So what is our answer?
(09:51:39) (merri) what Blu said
(09:51:42) (merri) LOL
(09:51:45) (@blubearwoman) there is more than one way to produce power, and to develop fuel efficency, but it takes work and there are many with money and power who would not profit from this
(09:52:17) (merri) we have made the middle east rich
(09:52:24) (@blubearwoman) Our government is controlled by it's purse strings, and how we elect our officials
(09:52:29) (@host-GG) Ok so we are talking about POWER again.
(09:52:30) (@ron1) Because of this high and unstable increase, and demand for oil...alternative techonologies are already being introduced...such the 100 mile hybrid for instance
(09:52:53) (@blubearwoman) yes, power, power that will fail and us with it if we do not stand up and make our voices heard
(09:53:01) (merri) by our depending and buying their oil and now look what they are doing with the wealth
(09:53:04) (@ron1) thiese technologies are already being delivered to the public
(09:53:07) (@host-GG) I wonder what would those middle east countries do without our purchase of oil from them?
(09:53:39) (@host-GG) Good input, guys. Thanks.
(09:53:40) (@blubearwoman) they do not have to produce one more barrel of oil at this point, they can live off of what they have forever!
(09:53:46) (@ron1) in time, these new advancements will be affordable to the lower classes
(09:54:00) (@blubearwoman) watch Africa you all, that is where the next supply of oil is
(09:54:26) (@host-GG) Q: But we've had idealistic leaders such as Woodrow Wilson, who advocated the League of Nations as a means of reconciling conflicts between nations instead of resorting to war. Why didn't it make a difference?
(09:54:30) (@ron1) thats my two-cents...I guess I'm being more positive than what I have just been hearing
(09:54:35) (merri) we should forget the oil!
(09:55:06) (@blubearwoman) I think W Wilson did make a difference
(09:55:14) (@blubearwoman) and the United nations
(09:55:19) (merri) agree
(09:55:25) (@host-GG) A: "Such conditions have been the dream of many an individual, and of many with much more material power and prestige than those who would consider such at the present. Same was the idea of Alexander [the Great] when he sought to conquer the world, yet the tenets of the ideal were forgotten in the desires of the flesh,
(09:56:03) (@host-GG) and while the principles as set forth in the mind and heart of the man as the student under Plato and Archimedes, and Aurilius and others, the man became so gored by the greed of power as to become the loathsome body ~~ as to passes to its reward for the use of the power as given into the hands . . .
(09:56:44) (merri) power corrupts
(09:56:46) (@host-GG) "Only in Him in whom there was found no guile, and though He were buffeted my man ~~ though He was ridiculed by those in power, though He suffered among those convicted of crime in the flesh, and railing against their fellow man ~~ yet those tenets were proclaimed by that as the man, making self as the son of man, and through those conditions became the Son of the living God ~~
(09:57:24) (@host-GG) ~~ in these tenets, in these ways and manners, may such conditions be brought to the realization of those that would build an invisible empire within the hearts of men; and seeking then the way for each one as would head each organization as would be necessary, there would be seen that in a short while there may be brought into realization that that would be able to rule ~~ not as an iron rule of the oppressor; not as one seeking to subjugate others to the will ~~ but making the will one with that universal force necessary to bring everyone to that throne of grace, of faith, of hope, of love, of all those conditions necessary to build hospitals, churches, roads, loans, and help others to help themselves." 3976-4
(10:00:13) (@host-GG) Q: How can we build such a following?
(10:00:55) (@blubearwoman) one person at a time
(10:01:33) (@host-GG) A: "First the choosing of those who would give self in holy communion with the one purpose and, making self right with God, choose to be used as an instrument of Good for the saving of the Good in human principles; for . . .
(10:01:38) (merri) I have great hope and admiration for organizations like Doctors without borders and the groups that provide goats & chickens to third world countries so they can help themselves
(10:01:54) (@host-GG) . . . the world awaits the coming of those who will proclaim the day of freedom from the bonds of those who would rule, either through prestige or through political influence, see?
(10:02:33) (@ron1) 'political influence'...reminds of one nation in particular...
(09:21:31) (@host-GG) Chapter XV "A Path to Peace" No Soul Left Behind
(09:22:09) (@host-GG) While wars and lesser forms of human violence have dominated the story of humankind, Cayce offers hope for the peace makers. Violence is not God's way, he says; and as the family of nations crowds closer together on the planet, people can find peace and harmony by giving up their quest for power and emphasizing their commonality, their brotherhood, rather than their differences. Peace is not a vain hope but a necessity for the human race to fulfill its destiny.
(09:23:07) (@host-GG) Q: We've talked a lot about ways to improve personal relations. What can we do to improve relations between nations to prevent wars?
(09:23:36) (@host-GG) A: "Man's answer to everything has been power ~~ power of money, power of position, power of wealth, power of this, that, or the other. This has never been God's way, will never be God's way." 3976-8
(09:24:01) (@host-GG) Q: Wasn't reliance on power ancient man's means of survival in the wilderness, using it to subdue the earth, so to speak?
(09:24:09) (merri) what about the Old Testament?
(09:24:24) (merri) Lots of violence there
(09:24:29) (@host-GG) A: "Man ~~ with his natural bent ~~ not only attempted to subdue the earth, but to subdue one another; and the result was the differences of opinions, the various sects, sets, classes, and races."
(09:25:18) (@host-GG) "As the earth was peopled, and the abilities of expansion were able to bring the various groups, or associations of groups or nations, they could ~~ and did ~~ withdraw into themselves, and build for themselves in the various portions of the world that known as the periods of advancement of some particular group of peoples." 3976-8
(09:26:02) (@host-GG) Q: Yes, today it is easy to forget that for centuries various peoples had little contact with other groups if they wished to remain isolated and at peace. Even the United States remained isolated behind the oceans until less than a century ago.
(09:26:50) (@host-GG) A: "As the world has advanced, all the various phases of man's developments have entered to make a different phase, either in the political, economic, or religious aspect of man's experience." 3976-8
(09:27:13) (@host-GG) Q: It is often said that times have changed in ways that influence our behavior, usually for the worse, often because life is not as simple as it once was for many of us. Is that a factor in world relations?
(09:27:53) (@host-GG) A: "As has been and is being understood by many, there are changes being wrought in the nation, as well as in the inter[national] relationships with other nations. All of these may be considered from the one angle. It is also understood, comprehended by some, that a new order of conditions is to arise; that there must be many a purging in high places as well as low;
(09:28:27) (@host-GG) that there must be the greater consideration of each individual, each soul being his brother's keeper. There will then come about those circumstances in the political, the economic, and the whole relationships where there will be a leveling ~~ or a greater comprehension of this need.
(09:28:59) (@host-GG) "For as the time or the period draws near for these changes that come with the new order, it behooves all of those who have an ideal ~~ as individuals, as well as groups or societies or organizations ~~ to be practicing, applying same in their experience and their relationships as one to another."
(09:29:23) (@host-GG) "For unless these are up and doing, then there must indeed be a new order in their relationships and their activities. For His ways will carry through. For as He gave, 'Though the heavens and the earth may pass away, my word will not pass away.'"
(09:30:10) (@host-GG) Sorry Merri, to answer your question, God had given free will to all men and apparently it was used in the old testament too.
(09:30:44) (@host-GG) "All to often has this message been forgotten in the pulpits and in the organizations, not only in the national relationships but in the international relationships. And as the dealing are as one to another, unless these are in keeping with those tenets they must fail; for all power in Heaven and in earth hath been given into His hands."
(09:31:59) (@host-GG) Q: Ever since the development of nation-states, conflicts across their borders have often led to military clashes, if not all-out war. Do you see any hope for settling such disputes peacefully?
(09:32:26) (@host-GG) A: "Though there may come those periods when there will be great stress, as brother rises against brother, as group or sect or race rises against race ~~ yet the leveling must come."
(09:32:51) (@host-GG) "And only those who have set their ideal in Him and practiced it in their dealings with their fellow man may expect to survive the wrath of the Lord."
(09:33:16) (@host-GG) "In your dealings, then ~~ whether at home, in your dealings with state or the national situations, or the international affairs ~ there must come all under that purpose, that desire."
(09:33:40) (@host-GG) "And then There should be, there will be those rising to power [who] are able to meet the needs. For none are in power but that have been given the opportunity by the will of the Father ~~ from which all power emanates. Hence those will be leveled with the purpose. 'My word shall not fail.'" 3976-18
(09:34:07) (@host-GG) Q: It seems like there is more violence than ever these days since the terrorist attacks of 9/11.
(09:34:42) (@host-GG) A: The author, A. Robert Smith, used the following quote to answer this question . . . "With the advent of the closeness of the worlds coming into being, so that the man upon the other side of the world is as much the neighbor as the man next door, more and more have been the turmoil that have arisen in the attempt of individual leaders or groups to induce, force, or compel one portion of the world to think as the other, or the other group to dwell together as brethren with one body of sympathy, or one standard for all." 3976-8
(09:35:57) (@host-GG) Q: The twentieth century was dominated by two world wars and threats of a third, and the Middle East is in continuous turmoil, torn by war and suicide bombings. Are we destined to keep repeating these violent ideological struggles rather than be reconciled to our differences?
(09:35:57) (merri) We know that
(09:37:06) (@host-GG) A: Again the author used the following quote to answer this question. "[The nations] have all come to that place in the development of the human family where there must be a reckoning, a one point upon which all may agree, that out of all of this turmoil that has arisen from the social life,
(09:37:32) (@host-GG) racial differences, the outlook upon the relationship of man to the Creative Forces or his God, and his relationships one with another, must come to some common basis upon which all may agree." 3976-8
(09:37:55) (@host-GG) Q: Many would say it is impractical to try to get such an agreement and impossible to achieve.
(09:38:25) (@host-GG) A: What has caused the present conditions, not alone at home but abroad? It is that realization that was asked some thousands of years ago. "Where in thy brother? His blood cries to me from the ground!" and the other portion of the world has answered, is answering.
(09:39:11) (@host-GG) "Am I my brother's keeper?" The world, as a world ~~ that makes for the disruption, for the discontent ~` has lost its ideal. Man may not have the same idea. Man ~~ all men ~~ may have the same ideal!" 3976-8
(09:39:47) (@host-GG) A: "Have you not found that the essence, the truth, the real truth is one? Mercy and justice; peace and harmony. For without Moses and his leader Joshua [that was bodily Jesus] there is no Christ. Christ is not a man! Jesus was the man; Christ the messenger;
(09:40:16) (@host-GG) Christ in all ages, Jesus in one. Joshua in another, Melchizedek if another; these be those that led Judaism! These be they that came as that child of promise, as to the children of promise; and the promise in is you, that you lead as He has given you, "Feed my sheep." 991-1
(09:40:48) (@host-GG) "As the Spirit of God once moved to bring peace and harmony out of chaos, so must the Spirit move over the earth and magnify itself in the hearts, minds, and souls of men to bring peace, harmony and understanding, that they may dwell together in a way that will bring that peace, that harmony, that can only come with all having the one Ideal; not the one idea, but
(09:41:10) (@host-GG) 'Thou shalt love the Lord Thy God with all thine heart, thy neighbor as thyself!' This [is] the whole law the whole answer to the world, to each and every soul. That is the answer to the world conditions as they exist today." 3976-8
(09:41:39) (@host-GG) Q: How can this be brought about?
(09:42:25) (@host-GG) A: "As [they] each in their own respective sphere put into action what they know to be the fulfilling of what has been from the beginning, so does the little leaven ; leaven [ferment] the whole lump.
(09:42:52) (@host-GG) Rather little by little, line upon line, here a little, there a little, each thinking rather of the other fellow, as that which has kept the world in the various ways of being intact ~~ where there were ten, even, many a city, many a nation, has been kept from destruction.
(09:43:26) (@host-GG) "Though you may look upon, or feel that what was given to Abram ~~ as he viewed the cities of the plain and pled for the saving of same ~~ was an allegorical story, a beautiful tale to be told children ~~ that it might bring fear into the hearts of those [who] would have their own say ~~
(09:43:52) (@host-GG) ~~ may it not come into the hearts of those now, today, will you, yourself, make of your own heart an understanding that you must answer for your own brother, for your own neighbor!"
(09:44:24) (@host-GG) "And who is your neighbor? He that lives next door, or he that lives on the other side of the world? He, rather, that is in need of understanding! He who has faltered; he who has fallen even by the way. He is your neighbor, and you must answer for him!" 3976-8
(09:44:59) (@host-GG) Q: What do you say to critics of this idealistic prescription who say it is a pipedream?
(09:45:33) (@host-GG) A: "Do you have ideals spiritually? Do you desire that you may be controlled of power and might, or do you desire power and might that you may glorify your Maker?"
(09:46:01) (@host-GG) "Determine these in yourself; not merely by saying 'Yes, I'll be a good boy.' But live it for a year, and come around, sonny, and we'll tell you." 3618-1
(09:46:32) (@host-GG) Is this saying, perhaps that our country should give into the Islamic terrorists? Does this sound like to you?
(09:46:56) (@blubearwoman) no
(09:47:00) (@blubearwoman) not in the least
(09:47:04) (merri) doesn't sound that way to me
(09:47:34) (@blubearwoman) But it does sound like we as a nation must find our ideal again
(09:48:16) (@host-GG) We give so much to other countries in the way of food, money, etc., is that not living up to our ideal?
(09:48:39) (merri) we also meddle where we shouldn't
(09:48:58) (@blubearwoman) I think we fail in our ideal when we continue to live on a supply of oil that does not belong to us
(09:49:12) (@host-GG) Are you referring to Iraq, Merri?
(09:49:18) (@blubearwoman) we have the ability to change our own usage and ways of using, but we do not
(09:49:36) (@blubearwoman) instead we go to war over oil
(09:49:41) (merri) yes but that isn't the only country we meddle in
(09:50:19) (@host-GG) Some of our own people protest our developing our own country for oil, Blu.
(09:50:41) (merri) not all energy comes from oil
(09:50:53) (@blubearwoman) I do. I do not think we should depend on oil, but allow those who have come up with clean alternatives develop those ideas
(09:51:07) (merri) big business has kept other sources from being developed
(09:51:22) (@host-GG) That is true Merri. So what is our answer?
(09:51:39) (merri) what Blu said
(09:51:42) (merri) LOL
(09:51:45) (@blubearwoman) there is more than one way to produce power, and to develop fuel efficency, but it takes work and there are many with money and power who would not profit from this
(09:52:17) (merri) we have made the middle east rich
(09:52:24) (@blubearwoman) Our government is controlled by it's purse strings, and how we elect our officials
(09:52:29) (@host-GG) Ok so we are talking about POWER again.
(09:52:30) (@ron1) Because of this high and unstable increase, and demand for oil...alternative techonologies are already being introduced...such the 100 mile hybrid for instance
(09:52:53) (@blubearwoman) yes, power, power that will fail and us with it if we do not stand up and make our voices heard
(09:53:01) (merri) by our depending and buying their oil and now look what they are doing with the wealth
(09:53:04) (@ron1) thiese technologies are already being delivered to the public
(09:53:07) (@host-GG) I wonder what would those middle east countries do without our purchase of oil from them?
(09:53:39) (@host-GG) Good input, guys. Thanks.
(09:53:40) (@blubearwoman) they do not have to produce one more barrel of oil at this point, they can live off of what they have forever!
(09:53:46) (@ron1) in time, these new advancements will be affordable to the lower classes
(09:54:00) (@blubearwoman) watch Africa you all, that is where the next supply of oil is
(09:54:26) (@host-GG) Q: But we've had idealistic leaders such as Woodrow Wilson, who advocated the League of Nations as a means of reconciling conflicts between nations instead of resorting to war. Why didn't it make a difference?
(09:54:30) (@ron1) thats my two-cents...I guess I'm being more positive than what I have just been hearing
(09:54:35) (merri) we should forget the oil!
(09:55:06) (@blubearwoman) I think W Wilson did make a difference
(09:55:14) (@blubearwoman) and the United nations
(09:55:19) (merri) agree
(09:55:25) (@host-GG) A: "Such conditions have been the dream of many an individual, and of many with much more material power and prestige than those who would consider such at the present. Same was the idea of Alexander [the Great] when he sought to conquer the world, yet the tenets of the ideal were forgotten in the desires of the flesh,
(09:56:03) (@host-GG) and while the principles as set forth in the mind and heart of the man as the student under Plato and Archimedes, and Aurilius and others, the man became so gored by the greed of power as to become the loathsome body ~~ as to passes to its reward for the use of the power as given into the hands . . .
(09:56:44) (merri) power corrupts
(09:56:46) (@host-GG) "Only in Him in whom there was found no guile, and though He were buffeted my man ~~ though He was ridiculed by those in power, though He suffered among those convicted of crime in the flesh, and railing against their fellow man ~~ yet those tenets were proclaimed by that as the man, making self as the son of man, and through those conditions became the Son of the living God ~~
(09:57:24) (@host-GG) ~~ in these tenets, in these ways and manners, may such conditions be brought to the realization of those that would build an invisible empire within the hearts of men; and seeking then the way for each one as would head each organization as would be necessary, there would be seen that in a short while there may be brought into realization that that would be able to rule ~~ not as an iron rule of the oppressor; not as one seeking to subjugate others to the will ~~ but making the will one with that universal force necessary to bring everyone to that throne of grace, of faith, of hope, of love, of all those conditions necessary to build hospitals, churches, roads, loans, and help others to help themselves." 3976-4
(10:00:13) (@host-GG) Q: How can we build such a following?
(10:00:55) (@blubearwoman) one person at a time
(10:01:33) (@host-GG) A: "First the choosing of those who would give self in holy communion with the one purpose and, making self right with God, choose to be used as an instrument of Good for the saving of the Good in human principles; for . . .
(10:01:38) (merri) I have great hope and admiration for organizations like Doctors without borders and the groups that provide goats & chickens to third world countries so they can help themselves
(10:01:54) (@host-GG) . . . the world awaits the coming of those who will proclaim the day of freedom from the bonds of those who would rule, either through prestige or through political influence, see?
(10:02:33) (@ron1) 'political influence'...reminds of one nation in particular...
