Post by Blu on Nov 20, 2007 14:46:51 GMT -5
<Host-GG> Part 2 of 2, Chapter XIII, The Revelation.
<Host-GG> And in the Revelation study this: Know, as there is given each
emblem, each condition, it is representing or presenting to self a study of your
own body, with all of its emotions, all of its faculties. All of its physical centers
represent experiences through which your own mental and spiritual and
physical being pass. For it is indeed the revelation of self. 1173-1
<Host-GG> Q: What is meant by the great city which is called Sodom and
Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified?
<Host-GG> A: Egypt or Sodom or the Crucifixion, or the Lord are conditions,
circumstances, experiences, as well as individual places. Then in the minds of
those who would attempt or that would seek knowledge, they represent their
own experiences.
<Host-GG> Thus these to the people represent ~~ Egypt, the release from
bondage: Gomorrah, as a reckoning with sin ~~ as the Lord was crucified
there. As has been given, there has never been an experience when His
Christmas, His death, His birth, wasn't an experience of the age, the people.
<Host-GG> Though it may go under many names, as an individual may be under many names, in many environs, there is one ~~ one that ever comes as is shown in that later given as to those who have the name in the hand, in the head or in the forehead and the like; that is, what is the intent and purpose.
Just as the Savior of the world, as Lord, as Christ ~~ what do these names
indicate?
<Host-GG> That which is a help in a time of trouble alone? Or that to glory in, in your joy, your gladness, your happiness? How many, O how many have there been that have laughed with God, that have wept with Jesus, that have gloried with the Christ! Or rather has it been. My happiness and my joy is of myself ?
<Host-GG> No condemnation; but rather is there the pattern pointed to as was set by Him. He was all things to all men; rejoiced with those that did rejoice; He wept with those that wept. He was glad, He was happy. He was sorry. He kept the faith. 281-33
<Host-GG> Q: What is meant by the war in Heaven between the archangel
Michael and the Devil?
<Host-GG> A: There is first ~~ as is the spiritual concept ~~ the spiritual
rebellion, before it takes mental or physical form. This warning is illustrated
there by the war between the Lord of the Way and the Lord of Darkness ~~ or
the Lord of Rebellion. 281-33
<Host-GG> Q: Are the seven churches symbolic of the seven spiritual centers in
the physical body?
<Host-GG> A: Correct. {They are the Gonads ~~ Ephesus; Lyden ~~
Smyrma; Solar Plexus ~~ Pergamos; Thymus ~~ Thystira; Thyroid ~~
Sardis; Pineal ~~ Philadelphis; Pituitary ~~ Laodicea.] It is well that these
are correctly placed, but each individual's experience in the application of that
gained by each in his or her experience will be different.
<Host-GG> A: Correct. {They are the Gonads ~~ Ephesus; Lyden ~~
Smyrma; Solar Plexus ~~ Pergamos; Thymus ~~ Thystira; Thyroid ~~
Sardis; Pineal ~~ Philadelphis; Pituitary ~~ Laodicea.] It is well that these
are correctly placed, but each individual's experience in the application of that
gained by each in his or her experience will be different.
<Host-GG> To give an interpretation that the opening or activity through a
certain center raises or means or applies this or that, then would become rote.
But know the way, then each may apply same as his or her environment,
ability, experience, gives the opportunity.
<Host-GG> For know, in all and through all, the activity of self is only as a
channel ~~ and God giveth the understanding, the increase, to such; and in
the manner as is best fitted for the individual. It is not then as a formula, that
there are to be certain activities and certain results.
<Host-GG> These are true in the sense that they each represent or present the
opportunity for the opening to the understanding of the individual. For, as has
been given, man is free willed. And only when this is entirely given, and
actively given to the will of the Father may it be even as the life of the Christ. 281-29
<Host-GG> Q: What is meant by the seven lamps of fire burning before the
throne, described as the seven spirits of God?
<Host-GG> A: Those influences or forces which in their activity in the natures of
man are without, that stand ever before the throne of grace ~~ or God, to
become the messengers, or those who aid, the destructions of hindrances; as
the ways of dividing man's knowledge of or between ~~ Good and Evil.
<Host-GG> Hence they work ever as those influences that stand between, as it
were; being the helpful influences that become as the powers or activity in the
very nature of or force of man. 281-29
<Host-GG> Q: Explain the symbols of the white horse and rider in Revelation
19.
<Host-GG> A: This is the Christ in that it, as the horse, in the experiences of
the awakening is the symbol of the messenger; and this is Christ, Jesus, the
messenger. 281-37
<Host-GG> Q: What is the meaning of 1,000 years that Satan is bound?
<Host-GG> A: [Satan] is banished. That, as there are the activities of the forty
and four thousand ~~ in the same manner that the prayer of ten just [men]
should save a city, the deeds, the prayers of the faithful will allow that period
when the incarnation of those only that are in the Lord shall rule the earth,
and the period is a thousand years.
<Host-GG> Thus is Satan bound, thus is Satan banished from the earth. The
desire to do evil is only of him. And when there are ~~ as the symbols ~~
those only whose desire and purpose of their heart is to glorify the Father,
these will be those periods when this shall come to pass.
<BluBearWoman> makes me want to cry
<Host-GG> Be you all determined with your minds, your hearts, your purposes,
to be of that number ! 281-37
<Host-GG> Q: In Revelation 21-1, what is the meaning of a new heaven and a
new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there
was no more sea?
<Host-GG> Will give you all a few second to cry . . . . .
<BluBearWoman> LOL, I am past it
<Host-GG> A: Can the mind of man comprehend no desire to sin, no purpose
but that the glory of the Son may be manifested in his life? Is this not a new
heaven, a new earth? For the former things would have passed away. For as
the desires, the purposes, the aims are to bring about the whole change
physically, so does it crate in the experience of each soul a new vision, a new
comprehension.
<Host-GG> For as has been given, it has not entered the heart of man to know
the glories that have been prepared, that are a part of the experiences of
those that love only the Lord and His ways. 281-37
<Host-GG> Q: What is meant by the new Jerusalem?
<Host-GG> A: Those then that are come into the new life, the new
understanding, the new regeneration, there is then the new Jerusalem. For as
has been given, the place is not as a place alone but as a condition, as an
experience of the soul. Jerusalem has figuratively symbolically, meant the holy
place, the holy city ~~
<Host-GG> for there the ark of the covenant, the ark of the covenant in the
minds, the hearts the understandings the comprehension's of those who have
put away earthly desires and become the new purposes in their experience,
become the new Jerusalem, the new undertakings, the new desires. 281-37
<Host-GG> Q: Revelation 22-1 says, And he showed me a pure river of water of
life, clear as crystal proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
Please interpret this.
<Host-GG> A: As the river, the water, the life represents the active flow of the
purpose of the souls of men made pure in same. Then they flow with that
purpose from the throne of God Itself, made pure in the blood of the Lamb ~~
which is in Jesus, the Christ, to those who seek to know His ways. 281-37
<Host-GG> Q: What is meant by the tree of life with its twelve kinds of fruit that
yielded fruit every month and the leaves of the tree for the healing of the
nations?
<Host-GG> A: That as the tree planted by the water of life; that is, as the
sturdiness of the purpose of the individual in its sureness in the Christ; and
the leaves represent the activities that are for healing of all that the individual
activities may contact, even in material life. And that it is continuous, as by the
month, as for purpose, as for the activities. 281-37
<Host-GG> Q: You say it is not known when to expect the Second Coming of
Jesus. In what form will He appear?
<Host-GG> Any one have an opinion?
<BluBearWoman> yes, a lot of them
<lulabelle> same one as when He left !!
<Merri> state of mind
<Host-GG> A: Then, as that coming into the world in the Second Coming ~~ for
He will come again and receive His own, who have prepared themselves
through that belief in Him, and acting in that manner; for the spirit is abroad,
and the time draws near, and there will be the reckoning of those even as in
the first so in the last, and the last shall be first; for there is that Spirit abroad
~~ He stands near.
<Host-GG> He that has eyes to see, let him see. He that has ears to hear, let
him hear that music of the coming of the Lord of this vineyard, and art you
ready to give account of what you have done with your opportunity in the earth
as the Sons of God, as the heirs and joint heirs of glory with the Son?
<Host-GG> Then make your paths straight, for there must come an answering
for what you have done with your Lord! He will not tarry, for having overcome
He shall appear even as the Lord and Master.
<Host-GG> Not as one born, but as one that returns to His Own, for He will walk
and talk with men of every clime, and those that are faithful and just in their
reckoning shall be caught up with Him to rule and to do judgment for a
thousand years! 364-7
<Host-GG> I wonder if this means that those that have been unfaithful will not
recognize him and will not be part of the thousand year reign?
<Host-GG> Any ideas?
<BluBearWoman> it could be
<Host-GG> Q: Will He appear more than one more time?
<Cris7> Those with faith will know him
<RonS> I suppose you would to interpret the words, 'caught up with Him'
<Merri> and what happens to those who don't know him?
<Host-GG> A: He will come again and again in the hearts, in the minds, in the
experiences of those that love His coming. But those when they think on Him
and know that His Presence would mean and become fearful, He passes by ~~
even as the experiences of the entity through that sojourn found many that
harkened not to the simple words of Him who gave.
<BluBearWoman> ruled and judged
<Merri> and why is there all this division?!
<Merri> if we are all from the same source we should flow as one
<BluBearWoman> because of choice Merri
<Host-GG> Know thyself, know that thy Father abideth in you. And if you love
Him, you may know His ways, His experiences.
<Cris7> Those who do not choose to know him will be caught up in a longer
chain of karma
<Host-GG> And we talk about Karma in the next chapter. Very observant, Cris.
<Merri> so nothing changes?
<BluBearWoman> actually a lot changes
<RonS> Just an individual change?
<BluBearWoman> a new heaven and a new earth
<Host-GG> Except that the faithful will reign for a thousand years, Merri.
<BluBearWoman> I don't think we have the ability to understand all that that
means
<Merri> power, power and more power
<Merri> there is the division
<Host-GG> I would assume there will be a lot more culling to be done after that
thousand years, would you not?
<BluBearWoman> yes
<Merri> who belongs and who doesn't?
<RonS> a 1000 years opportunity for those who want or are seeking God
<BluBearWoman> only those who hear him and know him
<Host-GG> Wondering, of course, if I had been chosen the first time around
might give me the impression I have it made, etc. etc.
<Host-GG> That would be called arrogance.
<Merri> sounds too much like the same old, same old cycle
<Host-GG> Could be Merri, but I really doubt it. Cayce didn't give us that
impression, really.
<BluBearWoman> I see it more as a change in consciousness
<Merri> that's what I feel also
<BluBearWoman> once you have those who know him in place then it is easier
for others to know as well
<RonS> and those that are not seeking, not of the faithful will be sent away,
bound for a 1000 years...thus no longer a hindrance
<Merri> in place?
<BluBearWoman> yes, awakened
<BluBearWoman> for instance like seeing colors
<Merri> sent away to where ron?
<BluBearWoman> we are all accustom to color, but it is thought that long ago we
could not see all the colors we see now
<RonS> as given in Revelation...sent to the bottomless pit with satan.
symbol would have to be interpreted
<Merri> thought no soul should be lost
<RonS>soul that are prevented from earthly incarnation
<Host-GG> Eventually it will not be, Merri.
<RonS> right! no soul is lost...but are temporary bound...not for eternity
<Host-GG> I should think we would have to start all over again.
<RonS> bound, or held back
<BluBearWoman> back to the seed bed
<Host-GG> WOW. How deep can one get. It helps but really does not explain it
completely, does it?
<Cris7> We also have to remember staying behind is a choice
<RonS> Yes...very difficult for me
<BluBearWoman> I think there is a good reason for that, one must come to this
knowledge as one is ready for it
<Merri> because we can't comprehend the whole picture as yet
<RonS> wrong choices place limitations upon us
<Host-GG> After all is said and done, you are right, Cris. At the moment my
choice would be, please take me too, but it's too late this time around.
<Cris7> Those people have to want to change to move forward
<BluBearWoman> to late for Lory?
<RonS> right cris!..that is what the above was all about
<Host-GG> If I wasn't chosen, Blu, yes.
<Cris7> Lory you might have been chosen but chose to come back to be the
light bearer that you are
<BluBearWoman> remember, there is no such thing as time
<Host-GG> That is hard to comprehend right now, Blu; but by golly I'd bet at the
time it wouldn't be. lol
<BluBearWoman> LOL
<BluBearWoman> and don't forget grace
<Host-GG> How, I wonder, could I refuse to choose to be with God???????
<BluBearWoman> well, we are here
<BluBearWoman> rebels after all
<Cris7> You didn't refuse to be with him just chose to carry on his work
<Host-GG> Isn't it wonderful that we have found each other?
<BluBearWoman> yep
<Cris7> I am glad to have found this group
<Host-GG> Cris, you say the most wonderful encouraging words. Thank you.
<Cris7> You are a blessing to us Lory
<BluBearWoman> and let us not forget the door is still open
<Merri> I don't think it's a matter of refusing rather not being awakened
<BluBearWoman> we all wake up in different ways at different rates
<Merri> exactly
<RonS> I suppose we all have made a few mistakes while admiring the
beautiful earthly sunrise and sunsets
<Host-GG> That may be true, Merri, and I hurt for those who have not found
enlightenment.
<BluBearWoman> LOL, and they call us fools Lory
<Merri> but it is such a joy to watch ones awakening
<Host-GG> Those beautiful sunrises and sunsets are part of our Lord, too, Ron.
<RonS> yes lory...
<Merri> to watch them unfold
<Host-GG> AutoGreeter is going to miss this wonderful dialog. What a shame.
<BluBearWoman> lol
<Host-GG> Blu there is a paragraph in the article written by Hans Wilhelm in
Venture Inward, this past month on the difference between Pain and Suffering.
Hope you get a chance to read it.
<BluBearWoman> thanks Lory, I will
<Host-GG> Next week we start on Chapter XIV 'No Soul Left Behind' and includes
several questions about Karma.
<BluBearWoman> our blessed lessons
<BluBearWoman> hope I can make it!