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Post by Blu on Aug 27, 2007 22:11:55 GMT -5
No Soul Left Behind: 08-27-07 [21:20] <Host-GG> A: "You interpret them your self. Not by dream book, not by what others say, but dreams are presented in symbols, in signs. Often they may be [the] opposite [of] what is presented to the body, which has been in some of those indicated that bring warnings, blessings. Then keep yourself pure in mind and body.
[21:20] <Host-GG> You taught us well, Merri. . . . :-)
[21:20] <Raleigh> just a quick note / there is a total eclipse of the moon tonight 4 am mountain /
[21:20] <Host-GG> For the Lord's [messages] are often spoken in dreams, in visions. For He is the same yesterday, today and forever. Be not unmindful that there is the manner of life you live so that you merit this or that experience. 1968-10
[21:21] <Host-GG> "With those dreams that come to the entity . . . the entity may gain the more perfect understanding of the relations between God and man, and of the way in which He, God, manifests Himself through mankind." 900-143
[21:21] <Blu> Merit, that is a thought. I always look at my life as total grace.
[21:21] <Host-GG> Q: What produces prophetic dreams?
[21:22] <Raleigh> a need?
[21:22] <Host-GG> A: "In dreams, visions, and experiences, each individual soul passes through or reviews or sees from a different attitude those experiences of its own activities. And these are, in dreams or visions, emblematical conditions in the experience of that soul-entity." 257-136
[21:22] <Host-GG> Footnote: 'A woman who dreamed of competing with attractive women to hold her husband was told that in a past life she had controlled men with her beauty.' 'Another woman who was told she had been a warrior leader in a past life had to learn to control her quest for power in this life lest she alienate everyone close to her.'
[21:23] <Host-GG> Q: This sort of information gained from our dreams could be useful if we comprehended it and paid attention, is that it?
[21:23] <Host-GG> A: "The dreams, as we see, may be used in the way and manner as have been given, for in vision there is given the correlation of the mental mind with the subconscious forces of the entity, and as the conscious mind only reasons by comparison, and the subconscious by inductive reasoning [drawing general conclusions from a variety of experiences], then the correlation of these are presented in the manner that is often emblematical, often in a way of direct comparison, the entity may gain, through same, necessary lessons for development of mental proclivities of the entity." 137-60 Footnote: 'Dreams may offer a fresh perspective on familiar circumstances.'
[21:24] <Host-GG> Q: What if we don't remember dreams?
[21:25] <Host-GG> A: "The negligence of its associations . . . physical, mental and spiritual. Indicates a very negligible personage!" 5754-3
[21:25] <Host-GG> Q: Many people have trouble sleeping soundly, which I imagine interferes with the dream function. What do you suggest to make folks sleep better?
[21:26] <Host-GG> A: "If the body will use a little lemon juice just before retiring, with salt, this will materially aid the body in having better sleep." 816-1
[21:26] <Host-GG> Q: How much sleep does the average person need? [21:27] <Host-GG> A: "Seven and half to eight hours should be for most bodies." 816-1
[21:27] <Host-GG> Q: What is the main function of sleep other than physical rest and recuperation?
[21:28] <Host-GG> A: "Sleep [is] that period when the soul takes stock of what it has acted upon during one rest period to another, making or drawing, as it were, the comparisons that make for Life itself in its essence, as for harmony, peace, joy, love, long-suffering, patience, brotherly love, kindness ~~ these are the fruits of the Spirit. Hate, harsh words, unkind thoughts, oppressions and the like, these are the fruits of the Evil forces, or Satan, and the soul either abhors that is has passed, or enters into the joy of its Lord." 5754-2
[21:29] <Host-GG> Q: How is it possible for a conscious mind to dream while the body is asleep?
[21:30] <Host-GG> A: "A conscious mind, while the body is absent, is as one's ability to divide self and do two things at once, as is seen by the activities of the mental mind. The ability to read music and play [an instrument] is using different faculties of the same mind.
[21:31] <Host-GG> Different portions of the same consciousness. Then, for one faculty to function while another is functioning in a different direction is not only possible but probable . . . Beautiful isn't it?" 254-68
[21:31] <Blu> yes, it is
[21:31] <ron1> yes...
[21:31] <Raleigh>
[21:31] <Merri> koooooool
[21:31] <Host-GG> Q: What connection is there between the physical or conscious mind and the spiritual body during sleep?
[21:32] <Host-GG> A: "It's . . . that sensing. With what? That separate sense, or the ability of sleep, that makes for acuteness with those forces in the physical being that are manifest in everything animate.
[21:32] <Host-GG> As the unfolding of the rose, the quickening in the womb, of the grain as it buds forth, the awakening in all nature of that which has been set by the divine forces, to make the awareness of its presence in matter, or material things." 5743-3
[21:32] <Host-GG> Is that not extremely beautiful?
[21:33] <Raleigh> yup
[21:33] <Host-GG> Q: You once had a client who asked about a dream in which her friend, Emmie, committed suicide. What does that reveal?
[21:33] <Host-GG> A: "This shows to the entity, through this correlation of mental forces of the body-mind itself and those of the body-mind of Emmie, that such conditions had passed through [Emmie's] mind ~~ contemplation of such conditions [suicide], see?" 136-54
[21:34] <Blu> wow
[21:34] <Raleigh> i dont see
[21:34] <Raleigh> lol
[21:34] <Raleigh> lemme read it slow /
[21:34] <Host-GG> Q: Fortunately, Emmie did not take her own life. But isn't it an amazing correlation that her friend's dream could obtain this information about what Emmie considered doing?
[21:35] <Blu> It sure is
[21:35] <Host-GG> OK Ral.
[21:35] <Host-GG> Another word for it, Ral, is ESP.
[21:35] <Raleigh> like mind reading
[21:35] <Raleigh> yeah ok gg
[21:36] <Merri> in the dream state she was able to tune into Emmie's thoughts
[21:36] <Raleigh> right
[21:36] <Host-GG> A: "It's a correlation of subconscious minds that contact through thought, for thoughts are deeds and may become crimes or miracles. Just as given in the introduction, as it were, here dreams are the correlation of various phases of the mentality of the individual, see" An individual meaning of that entity.
[21:36] <Host-GG> "[In some] dreams . . . there may be taken into the body-physical elements that produce hallucinations, or the activity of what is induced in the system in itself attempting to take on its individual force produces hallucinations, nightmares . . .
[21:37] <Host-GG> "See how the connection becomes then between the individual mind and that producing same [such as Emmie and her close friend who had the dream]? The same as we find, there may be conditions from the mental mind of an entity, by deep study or thought, wherein the experiences of the individual entity are correlated through the subconscious forces of the entity ~~ the latent forces of the entity ~~ the hidden forces of the entity ~~ and correlating same in a vision or dream. Often these are symbolic conditions, each representing a various phase to the mental development of the entity.
[21:38] <Host-GG> "Others there are, a correlation between mentalities or subconscious entities, wherein there has been attained, physically or mentally, a correlation of individual idea or mental expressions that bring from one subconscious to another those of actual existent conditions, either direct or indirect, to be acted upon or that are ever present, see?
[21:39] <Host-GG> "Hence we find visions of the past, visions of the present, visions of the future. For to the subconscious there is no past or future ~~ all [is] present. 136-54
[21:39] <Raleigh> once Hugh answered Cayce yes i see / Cayce then said don't say you see when you don't !
[21:39] <Raleigh>
[21:39] <Host-GG> "Thus we find latent urges [such as sexual desires] arising in visions, dreams, manifestations.
[21:40] <Host-GG> "Have you not wondered why in the sacred writings it is said that God no longer spoke to man in visions or dreams? It is because man fed not his soul, his mind, upon things spiritual; thus closing the avenue or channel through which God might speak with the children of men. For, only they who believe He IS may make manifest that as a reality in their experience through material sojourns." 1904-2
[21:42] <Merri> do you think that is a true statement today?
[21:42] <Host-GG> Q: I see that you had a client who reported having a dream that repeated itself for six years. He visualized an airship heavier than air, which collected its lifting and driving force from the atmosphere by means of points on the top of it.
[21:42] <Raleigh> i think so
[21:43] <Raleigh> i try to explain god to some and they just dont get it
[21:43] <Host-GG> Underneath the machine there were apparently two heavy copper bars running the length of it, having small points underneath, which when charged with the force lifted the machine by neutralizing the force of gravity. The machine was driven by the power streaming from points attached to the rear. What was the interpretation of this dream?
[21:43] <Merri> there are many people today who live very spiritual lives
[21:43] <Raleigh> gods word confuses the worldly wise //
[21:44] <Host-GG> A: "In this vision, we find this emblematical condition being presented to the entity . . . As is seen, all of the power must come from above. The bars representing, then, as the individual's foundation,
[21:44] <Raleigh> i planted the seed best i could
[21:44] <Cris> many inventions have come from the dream state
[21:44] <Host-GG> upon which there is given the lifting power of same to soar through the various fields of knowledge in attaining the various points necessary for that development and that understanding to apply such forces in the material plane." 39-3
[21:45] <Host-GG> Q: Good health, we are all taught, requires a good night's sleep. How does sleep benefit the mind and spirit as well as the body?
[21:46] <Host-GG> Am wondering, Cris, if nearly all good things come from the dream state, the dreamer not being aware of it??
[21:47] <Host-GG> A: "In purely physical, we find in sleep the body is relaxed ~~ and there is little or no tautness within same, and those activities that function through the organs that are under the supervision of the subconscious or unconscious self, through the involuntary activities of an organism [such as breathing]." 5754-1
[21:47] <Cris> It could be Lory
[21:51] <Host-GG> Q: What does the soul do while we sleep?
[21:51] <Host-GG> A: "Each and every soul leaves the body as it rests in sleep." 853-8
[21:51] <Host-GG> I never knew this. . .
[21:51] <Blu> me either
[21:52] <Blu> I knew we did at times
[21:52] <Raleigh> yeah gg
[21:52] <Raleigh> when we pass we are / or souls are with god / sleep is deaths shadow //
[21:52] <Merri> I've been telling you that for ages!!
[21:53] <Host-GG> Q: Hugh Lynn Cayce told me that he occasionally experiences astral travel, leaving his body at night while asleep, and looking in on friends in distant places. Do we actually leave the body at times and go to different places?
[21:53] <MarkH> we are always with god?
[21:53] <Blu> I don't make it to dream chat enough Merri
[21:53] <Raleigh> kinda yes
[21:54] <Host-GG> A: "You do."853-8
[21:54] <Raleigh> oneness oneness oneness/
[21:54] <Host-GG> Q: Why?
[21:54] <Host-GG> A: "As to how this may be used constructively, this would be like answering how could one use one's voice for constructive purposes. It is of a same or of a similar import, you see; that is, it is a faculty, it is an experience, it is a development of the self as related to spiritual things, material things, mental things.
[21:55] <Host-GG> "Then as to the application of self in those directions for a development of same ~~ it depends upon what is the purpose, what is the desire. Is it purely material? Is it in that attitude, 'If or when I am in such an such a position I can perform this or that'? If so, then such expressions are only excuses within self ~~ in any phase of an experience.
[21:55] <Host-GG> "For as He has given, it is here a little, there a little ~~ use what you have in hand today, now, and when your abilities and activities are such that you may be entrusted with other faculties, other developments, other experiences, they are a part of self." 853-8
[21:56] <Host-GG> Q: How can one develop and use this power constructively?
[21:56] <Raleigh> and if talents are used for the betterment of others or the glory of god more creative talent is given
[21:56] <Host-GG> A: "As to how it may be used: Study to show yourself approved unto God, a workman not ashamed of that you think, of that you do, or of your acts; keeping self unspotted from your own consciousness of your ideal; having the courage to dare to do that you know is in keeping with God's will." 853-8
[21:58] <Host-GG> And that is the end of 'Dreams Make Sense' that was used in this material. Next week we start 'Beyond God's Other Door'.
[21:58] <Raleigh>
[21:58] <Blu> This was great Lory, I needed to hear this
[21:58] <Merri> TY Lory
[21:58] <MarkH> kool
[21:58] <ron1> very good...
[21:58] <MarkH> yes, thank you Lory
[21:59] <Blu> I am going to try the lemon juice, I did not know about that
[21:59] <Cris> Thanks Lory I learned a lot from this chat
[21:59] <Host-GG> I recall, Merri, once you mentioned that one of my dreams was an out of body experience, but apparently I did not connect that all dreams were out of body.
[21:59] <Raleigh> i have been getting Very serious bout stuff as of late too blu
[21:59] <Raleigh> must be something in the air /
[21:59] <Raleigh> i didnt recall the lemon readings either
[21:59] <Blu> must be Ral
[21:59] <Raleigh> yup
[22:00] <Blu> I knew I had a lot of them, I did not realize they all were
[22:00] <Merri> make sure the lemon juice has no sugar in it
[22:00] <Raleigh> i did a 4 hour prayer session this mornin /
[22:00] <ron1> with a little salt...
[22:00] <Host-GG> You are welcome Cris, Merri, Blu, Ron, Mark and Vjh
[22:00] <Blu> real lemon work?
[22:00] <Merri> it should
[22:00] <Blu> That is quit a session Ral!
[22:01] <ron1> a little real lemon with a little salt
[22:01] <Raleigh> yup
[22:01] <Blu> added to water?
[22:01] <Blu> why salt Ron?
[22:01] <Raleigh> that's what the reading said
[22:01] <Merri> that's what Cayce said, Blu
[22:01] <Cris> As children we used to eat lemons with salt
[22:01] <Raleigh> salt and lemon helps sleep
[22:01] <Host-GG> That was Cayce's recommendation, Blu.
[22:01] <Blu> OK, I missed that part
[22:01] <Merri> really Cris?
[22:02] <Cris> yes
[22:02] <Blu> add that to the grocery list
[22:02] <Blu> the cat licked the olive oil bottle so I have to get more of that too!
[22:02] <Raleigh> oh yeah Cris / i have all my gems powered up today
[22:02] <Cris> One of our friends got us to try it and we decided we liked it
[22:03] <Cris> It was a passing phase as I remember
[22:03] <Merri> what was the purpose?
[22:03] <Merri> oh, ok
[22:03] <Raleigh> my fridge is empty / fastin starting
[22:03] <Cris> Like eating the popcorn seasoning that came in popsrite popcorn
[22:03] <Raleigh> told yah i was getting serious blu /
[22:03] <Host-GG> If you can believe it, as a child I used to eat the dirt from the cellar wall.
[22:04] <Cris> Her mother said lemons were healthy and whitened teeth
[22:04] <Raleigh>
[22:04] <Raleigh> lol
[22:04] <Raleigh> lol
[22:04] <Raleigh> hummm
[22:04] <Blu> I don't think I can eat a lemon
[22:04] <Raleigh> i ate mud
[22:04] <Merri> Yikes Lory!!
[22:04] <Raleigh> hmmm
[22:04] <Raleigh> lol
[22:04] <MarkH> lol
[22:04] <MarkH> i knew a kid that did that
[22:04] <Merri> the juice of the lemon should work, Blu
[22:04] <Host-GG> It was delicious, Merri. Have asked the doctors since why? They told me my system lacked minerals.
[22:05] <ron1> luckily we have vacuum cleaners...
[22:05] <Raleigh> hummm
[22:05] <Raleigh>
[22:05] <Cris> It's the same reason pregnant women eat clay for the mineral content
[22:05] <Raleigh> hey Blu i fixed my car
[22:05] <Host-GG> Then I guess I'm not such a screwball after all, Mark. lol
[22:05] <Raleigh> duct taped for 2 years
[22:06] <Raleigh> i opened the trunk and saw all kinds o stuff
[22:06] <Raleigh> no critters though
[22:06] <Raleigh>
[22:06] <Blu> LOL @ Ral
[22:06] <Raleigh> lol
[22:06] <MarkH> ok,..when i was a kid i did the ash trays
[22:06] <Cris> That craving for oddities is known as pica
[22:07] <Cris> It is worldwide
[22:07] <Host-GG> It really is incredible that the body tells us what we need. All we need to do is listen. :-)
[22:07] <Blu> one of WIS's nieces did the ashtrays too
[22:07] <ron1> once a year on Wednesdays
[22:07] <Raleigh> cayce did say sumthin bout that
[22:07] <Raleigh> our body lets us know what we need at times
[22:07] <Cris> My body is saying chocolate.....
[22:08] <Raleigh> lol
[22:08] <Raleigh> lol
[22:08] <Merri> whenever I have a craving I give into it immediately
[22:08] <MarkH> and the match sticks was a plus
[22:08] <Host-GG> You must not have little doggies and kitties or children running around in your apartment, Ron.
[22:08] <Raleigh> LOL
[22:08] <ron1> no Lory...deathly quiet here...
[22:09] <Host-GG> No wonder you need not vacuum but once a year.
[22:09] <Raleigh> welllllllll----
[22:09] <ron1> sometimes, nice to vacuum one's mouth...when one is told to eat dirt...
[22:09] <Raleigh> hey ty gg
[22:10] <Raleigh> lol ron
[22:10] <Host-GG> yw, Ral. And please remember that this particular chapter was not to disrupt Merri's Dream Chat. It is part of the book I used.
[22:10] <Raleigh> k
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