Post by WalksInSpirit on Jan 22, 2007 23:08:32 GMT -5
Hermes: 01-22-07
ron says: here are a few things on Hermes from other sources -
ron says: The readings suggest that Hermes of Egypt may also have been an earlier incarnation of Jesus.
ron says: Hermes in Greek Mythology: [According to Hesiod] "Hermes was the son of Zeus and Maia. He was the messenger of Zeus, and wore a winged cap and winged shoes. He bore in his hand a rod entwined with two serpents, called the caduceus.
ron says: Hermes is said to have invented the lyre. Hermes gave the lyre to Apollo, and received from him in exchange the caduceus." In Roman mythology, the god Hermes was called Mercury. from Bullfinch’s Mythology
ron says: i like the suggestive indications -
ron says: Hermes, the herald of the Olympian gods, is son of Zeus and the nymph Maia, daughter of Atlas and one of the Pleiades. Hermes is the god of shepherds, literature, Most importantly, he is the messenger of the gods. Besides that he was also a minor patron of poetry. He was worshipped throughout Greece - especially in Arcadia.
ron says: messenger...thats nice
ron says: According to legend, Hermes was born in a cave on Mount Cyllene in Arcadia. Zeus had impregnated Maia at the dead of night while all other gods slept. When dawn broke amazingly he was born. Maia wrapped him in swaddling bands, then resting herself, fell fast asleep. Hermes, however, ran off to Thessaly. This is where Apollo, his brother lived.
Blu says: it really sounds like Jesus doesn't it?
ron says: birth of Jesus, according to EC, was at midnight
ron says: He made the first lyre. The sweet music enchanted Apollo. Apollo later became the grand master of the instrument, and it also became one of his symbols. Hermes was also credited with inventing the flute. Apollo, also desired this instrument, so Hermes bartered with Apollo and received his golden wand which Hermes later used as his heralds staff. (In other versions Zeus gave Hermes his heralds staff).
ron says: a musician
ron says: i think was a the time of King David...can't quite remember
ron says: Being the herald (messenger of the gods), it was his duty to guide the souls of the dead down to the underworld, which is known as a psychopomp. He was also closely connected with bringing dreams to mortals.
ron says: METAPHYSICS: Hermes was the Master of all arts and sciences, perfect in all crafts, Ruler of the Three Worlds, Scribe of the Gods, and Keeper of the Books of Life, Thoth/Hermes Trismegistus - the Three Times, the "First Intelligencer" - was regarded by the ancient Egyptians as the embodiment of the Universal Mind.
ron says: First Intelligence...the first creation...light/mind/wisdom
ron says: the Light of the World
ron says: While in all probability there actually existed a great sage and educator by the name of Hermes, it is impossible to extricate the historical man from the mass of legendary accounts which attempt to identify him with the Cosmic Principle of Thought.
Roz says: Jesus came in to the world as Light
ron says: Thoth or Tehuti, was the scribe of the Gods, the inventor of writing, and was usually depicted in hieroglyphics with the head of an Ibis bird. Thoth wrote the story of our reality - the Hall of Records - The Akashic Records - the Grid Programs - the ancient mystery school teachings - the mystery schools - information that would be hidden until the end of this cycle called Time - the creation of our physical reality through
ron says: It is thought that Thoth was the architect of the Great Pyramid of Giza. It is said that below the Giza plateau lies a network of tunnels containing the real history of Egypt, including the mystical history of the temple initiates. The central truth of these records is permanently inscribed on Emerald Tablets of Thoth that have yet to be discovered.
ron says: now, i have something additional but might be a little off track...i found it interesting to post before i get to my own conclusions
ron says: The Connection Between the Pyramid and the Ark of the Covenant by Gerry Cannon
ron says: The word ark comes from the Hebrew word aron, which means a chest, box. Its dimensions are described by the bible as 2.5 cubits by 1.5 cubits by 1.5 cubits (45 inches by 27 inches by 27 inches). Curiously, this is the exact volume of the stone chest or porphyry coffer in the King's Chamber in the Great Pyramid in Egypt.
ron says: i believe, the first High Priest's name...Aron
ron says: at time of Moses
ron says: i'll move on
ron says: This coffer was the only object within the King's Chamber, as the Ark was the single sacred object within the Holy of Holies, in the Temple. Also the laver, or basin, that the priests used to wash their feet had the identical cubit dimensions.
ron says: In addition, the cubit dimensions of the inner chamber of the Temple, the Holy of Holies, are precisely identical in size to the King's Chamber in the Pyramid and the same volume as the molten sea of water on the Temple Mount as prepared by King Solomon.
ron says: Since the Pyramid was built and sealed long before the days of Moses, when he built the Ark and the Holy of Holies, and had remained sealed for over twenty-five centuries until the ninth century after Christ, there is no natural explanation for the phenomenon of both structures having identical volume measurements.
ron says: The pyramid itself possessed its own force centers: the heart of the King's Chamber, its most vital and sacred points, where divine energy was concentrated and especially powerful. And other chambers not yet discovered. The candidate undergoing initiation was placed in the great granite sarcophagus in the King's Chamber at the August moment of the initiation rites (Note: the purpose of Initiation is to bestow upon the disciple certain molecular changes in the body to handle higher energy)
ron says: because the sarcophagus was in direct alignment with the downpouring ray of cosmic light through the Ark in the Third Eye capstone.
Roz says: most interesting Ron
ron says: remember that Cayce said that Jesus and John the Baptist took their final Initiation inside the SEALED G. Pyramid
Blu says: awesome
ron says: The voltage of such a fiery light ray could only be endured by one in whom the physical, emotional and spiritual forces were completely aligned and purified. The candidate with an unbalanced polarity ran the risk of injury to the physical organism, or even death, because of the accelerated frequencies of manna-loa pouring through the capstone.
ron says: When the massive structure was first constructed, the final portion to be levitated into place was the gleaming gold and crystal capstone containing the original Ark of the Covenant, brought from Atlantis. This Ark and capstone graced the very summit of Knut. Once this floating capstone was so placed, the Great Ones created several lesser Arks.
ron says: The voltage of a second Ark was integrated into the structure of the open granite sarcophagus in the King's Chamber. Since granite is saturated with minute crystals, it was not difficult to charge the initiatory coffer with incredible cosmic force.
ron says: The crystals and compounds of which the Ark was constructed - the silver, brass-like substance, and pure living gold - were charged with seven octaves of energy, from the materialistic charges of electric voltage up to the highest spiritualized forces of celestial planes - pranic forces far beyond the voltage of Earth's electricity."
ron says: The uninitiated unprotected sons of Earth were not permitted to touch the Ark because of its radiating voltage, placed there by generated cosmic rays. The priests who had charge of it, called the Arkites, wore protective garments. But they were themselves charged with cosmic power.
ron says: Such human Arks were somewhat immune from the rays of the crystal because each radiated frequencies harmonious with the crystal. Since the Ark radiated an energy destructive to all inharmonious with it, a gold sheath was constructed to insulate it, to partially shield the people from the powerful emanations.
ron says: To maintain its potency, each Ark had to be constantly recharged with a creative energy of tremendous voltage. The principal source of that energy was man himself, and only the highest initiates were capable of radiating the particular force required to keep the Ark active.
ron says: Much of this responsibility fell upon the high priests, the Arkites or Ptahs of the temple, who, if they so willed it, could raise the frequency of their forms to radiate so powerful a force that an uninitiate touching their bodies could be struck down, just as if he had touched the Ark itself. Rarely was such voltage require of them, except to recharge the Arks.
ron says: a little bit more on Hermes/Thoth
ron says: THOTH: Ancient metaphysical works dealing essentially with the idea of the complete community of all beings and objects. Authorship of the books was attributed to the Egyptian god of wisdom, Thoth, whose name was sometimes translated into Greek as Hermes Trismegistus [Thoth the thrice great] and was therefore equated with the Greek god Hermes.
Roz says: makes sense
ron says: The books treat of a variety of subjects, including magic, astrology, and alchemy, and were particularly influential in the 3d cent. with the Neoplatonists and in France and England in the 17th cent.
ron says: In Greek religion and mythology, son of Zeus and Maia. His functions were many, but he was primarily the messenger of the gods, particularly of Zeus. He was god of travelers and roads, of luck, of music and eloquence, of merchants and commerce.
ron says: He was credited with having invented the lyre and the shepherd's flute. His most typical monument, the herma or herm, was a stone pillar which usually had a carved head on top and a phallus in the center, probably representing the god in his original role as the giver of fertility.
ron says: The Flying Mercury by Giovanni Bologna (Bargello, Florence) Hermes is represented as a graceful youth, wearing a wide-brimmed winged hat and winged sandals and carrying the caduceus.
ron says: talking about sex in the above...think of the Garden in Eden with its earthly temptation
diane says: sounds like the FTD florist man
ron says: A famous statue by Praxiteles, which is located in the Heraeum at Olympia, Greece, shows Hermes with the child Dionysus. The Romans identified Hermes with Mercury. ?
ron says: Ok...here is where i begin to close off...i chose certain quotes and author's commentary as to the 2nd Coming....and my view hasn't changed...but, IS only my view...no one else has to agree
diane says: let's hear it ron
ron says: For, He shall come as ye have seen Him go, in the body He occupied in Galilee. The body that He formed, that was crucified on the Cross, that rose from the tomb, that walked by the sea, that appeared to Simon, that appeared to Philip, that appeared to “I, even John.” 5749-4
ron says: He shall come as ye have seen Him go, in the body He occupied in Galilee. The body that He formed, that was crucified on the Cross
ron says: [Apparently the above has been forgotten by many who are involved with the Cayce readings. -ron]
ron says: When will his actual return be? Although a Cayce reading indicates that the year 1998 may somehow relate to the return of the Master, the readings and the Bible agree that only God - not even the Master - knows when he will return.
ron says: So Christ having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him. Hebrews 9:28 [p. 187]
ron says: not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him
Roz says: he took his body with him because itconsisted ofLight
diane says: yes
ron says: The book of Hebrews discusses in detail the new priesthood Jesus established through his connection with Melchizedek. But the incidents of royalty and kingship were missing from the life of Jesus.
ron says: another clue...
ron says: Jesus’ kingship is mentioned in the books of Enoch and often mentioned in the Old and New Testaments. But His actual kingship, however, is expected to happen at his Second Coming which is stressed in the New Testament. [p. 188]
ron says: Most of the Matthew, 24th chapter is an account by Jesus of his future return.
ron says: Jesus describes wars and rumors of wars, and other iniquities, and refers to the abominations prophesied by Daniel as signs, omens, of the time of his coming. He warns of false prophets but promises to shorten the days of desolation for the sake of his elect.
ron says: promises to shorten the days of desolation for the sake of his elect
tru_eagle says: shoten the day ,s
ron says: The sun and moon will be darkened, and then the sign of the Son of man shall appear in the heavens. He shall be seen “coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory,” and the angels “will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”
ron says: [Let me repeat for those who have forgotten …THE SON OF MAN SHALL APPEAR IN THE HEAVENS. HE SHALL BE SEEN “COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN WITH POWER AND GREAT GLORY,” …]
ron says: For the Son of man is to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay every man for what he has done. Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death before they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. Matthew 16:27-28 [p. 188]
Blu says: Amen
ron says: Those individuals that were in hearing and in keeping of those things presented by the Master in that experience would be in the manifested form in the earth during the periods of fulfillments in the earth of the prophecies spoken of. 262-60
ron says: like the incarnation of John the Beloved, and/or John the Baptist, and/or John Peniel
ron says: may be the same person or two out those just mentioned
ron says: need for a physical birth?...well...i disagree!
ron says: does not need a physical channel to again walk the earth
ron says: can manifest when the time is right
ron says: i lean towards the Bible and Cayce
diane says: i'm in total agreement there
ron says: i will go on -
Roz says: and all who will may be with him Now
ron says: The return of Jesus or his Second Coming should be viewed on MORE THAN ONE LEVEL. It first may relate to the reception of the Christ Consciousness in an individual.
ron says: It may also pertain to the arrival of the Christ Consciousness on a national or international scale in our dealings with one another, or the promised “millennium.” Finally, it means the actual [physical return of Jesus in the skies in the manner in which he left. Then, he will dispense the final judgment.
ron says: yes, i agree with that above, we all are seeing happening for many years now
tru_eagle says: and the rapture ^i^
ron says: with an increase of religious feeling, and its opposition, the antichrist[tian] souls
ron says: we are at war NOW!...
ron says: sorry to put it that way
tru_eagle says: no .. ron .. u r right !
ron says: Is He abroad today in the earth? Yea, in those that cry unto Him from every corner…And He comes again the hearts and souls and minds of those that seek to know His ways. 5749-5
ron says: Reading 5749-4, states that he is not in a body in the earth, but he, “may come at will to him who WILLS to be one with, and acts in love to make same possible.”
ron says: "at will"...thus at an instant!
tru_eagle says: an more praying .. can do that !
ron says: There is that access, then, that way, to the Throne of Grace, of Mercy, of Peace, of Understanding, within thine own self. For He hath promised to meet thee in thine own temple, in thine own body, through thine own mind…And then enter into the Holy of Holies, within thine own consciousness; turn within; see what has prompted thee. And He has promised to meet thee there. 922-1
ron says: The veil isolating the Temple Holy of Holies was rent and torn symbolically at the death of Jesus. We are now free to meet God - and the Master - within our own inner bodily temple.
ron says: Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?” I Corinthians 3:16 [p. 189]
ron says: Revelation, chapter 20 tells of the binding of the devil or Satan for a 1000 years during which his influence on earth will not be felt. Jesus’ elect will rule with him on earth at this time; they will be known as the “first resurrection.”
ron says: so there is a heirarchy of souls/spirits...those who are highly accomplished and those that are not so...thus shows who is really in control of our evolution...free will is not absolutely free!
ron says: Afterwards Satan will be let loose again on earth for a season. The “second resurrection” occurs sometime afterward in the final judgment when Satan is cast out forever.
diane says: into a lake of fire
ron says: Q. When Jesus the Christ comes the second time, will He set up His kingdom on earth and will it be an everlasting kingdom?
ron says: A. Read His promises in that ye have written of his words, even as “I gave.” He shall rule for a thousand years. Then shall Satan be loosed again for a season. 5749-4
ron says: just gotta read that Bible and believe!
ron says: …for a thousand years He will walk and talk with men of every clime. Then in groups, in masses, and then they shall reign of the first resurrection for a thousand years; for this will be when the changes materially come. 364-8 [p. 189]
ron says: This millennium period, there will be a new age of love and understanding among the nations and in the dealings of individuals one with the other. The distracting and misleading influence of the devil will be absent.
ron says: i'm not finished yet...but i did get my starting point a little mixed :)
ron says: be patient with some repeats....besides repetition is a nice memorizing tool
ron says: The readings suggest that Hermes of Egypt may also have been an earlier incarnation of Jesus.
ron says: Hermes in Greek Mythology: [According to Hesiod] "Hermes was the son of Zeus and Maia. He was the messenger of Zeus, and wore a winged cap and winged shoes. He bore in his hand a rod entwined with two serpents, called the caduceus.
ron says: Hermes is said to have invented the lyre. Hermes gave the lyre to Apollo, and received from him in exchange the caduceus." In Roman mythology, the god Hermes was called Mercury. from Bullfinch’s Mythology
ron says: i like the suggestive indications -
ron says: Hermes, the herald of the Olympian gods, is son of Zeus and the nymph Maia, daughter of Atlas and one of the Pleiades. Hermes is the god of shepherds, literature, Most importantly, he is the messenger of the gods. Besides that he was also a minor patron of poetry. He was worshipped throughout Greece - especially in Arcadia.
ron says: messenger...thats nice
ron says: According to legend, Hermes was born in a cave on Mount Cyllene in Arcadia. Zeus had impregnated Maia at the dead of night while all other gods slept. When dawn broke amazingly he was born. Maia wrapped him in swaddling bands, then resting herself, fell fast asleep. Hermes, however, ran off to Thessaly. This is where Apollo, his brother lived.
Blu says: it really sounds like Jesus doesn't it?
ron says: birth of Jesus, according to EC, was at midnight
ron says: He made the first lyre. The sweet music enchanted Apollo. Apollo later became the grand master of the instrument, and it also became one of his symbols. Hermes was also credited with inventing the flute. Apollo, also desired this instrument, so Hermes bartered with Apollo and received his golden wand which Hermes later used as his heralds staff. (In other versions Zeus gave Hermes his heralds staff).
ron says: a musician
ron says: i think was a the time of King David...can't quite remember
ron says: Being the herald (messenger of the gods), it was his duty to guide the souls of the dead down to the underworld, which is known as a psychopomp. He was also closely connected with bringing dreams to mortals.
ron says: METAPHYSICS: Hermes was the Master of all arts and sciences, perfect in all crafts, Ruler of the Three Worlds, Scribe of the Gods, and Keeper of the Books of Life, Thoth/Hermes Trismegistus - the Three Times, the "First Intelligencer" - was regarded by the ancient Egyptians as the embodiment of the Universal Mind.
ron says: First Intelligence...the first creation...light/mind/wisdom
ron says: the Light of the World
ron says: While in all probability there actually existed a great sage and educator by the name of Hermes, it is impossible to extricate the historical man from the mass of legendary accounts which attempt to identify him with the Cosmic Principle of Thought.
Roz says: Jesus came in to the world as Light
ron says: Thoth or Tehuti, was the scribe of the Gods, the inventor of writing, and was usually depicted in hieroglyphics with the head of an Ibis bird. Thoth wrote the story of our reality - the Hall of Records - The Akashic Records - the Grid Programs - the ancient mystery school teachings - the mystery schools - information that would be hidden until the end of this cycle called Time - the creation of our physical reality through
ron says: It is thought that Thoth was the architect of the Great Pyramid of Giza. It is said that below the Giza plateau lies a network of tunnels containing the real history of Egypt, including the mystical history of the temple initiates. The central truth of these records is permanently inscribed on Emerald Tablets of Thoth that have yet to be discovered.
ron says: now, i have something additional but might be a little off track...i found it interesting to post before i get to my own conclusions
ron says: The Connection Between the Pyramid and the Ark of the Covenant by Gerry Cannon
ron says: The word ark comes from the Hebrew word aron, which means a chest, box. Its dimensions are described by the bible as 2.5 cubits by 1.5 cubits by 1.5 cubits (45 inches by 27 inches by 27 inches). Curiously, this is the exact volume of the stone chest or porphyry coffer in the King's Chamber in the Great Pyramid in Egypt.
ron says: i believe, the first High Priest's name...Aron
ron says: at time of Moses
ron says: i'll move on
ron says: This coffer was the only object within the King's Chamber, as the Ark was the single sacred object within the Holy of Holies, in the Temple. Also the laver, or basin, that the priests used to wash their feet had the identical cubit dimensions.
ron says: In addition, the cubit dimensions of the inner chamber of the Temple, the Holy of Holies, are precisely identical in size to the King's Chamber in the Pyramid and the same volume as the molten sea of water on the Temple Mount as prepared by King Solomon.
ron says: Since the Pyramid was built and sealed long before the days of Moses, when he built the Ark and the Holy of Holies, and had remained sealed for over twenty-five centuries until the ninth century after Christ, there is no natural explanation for the phenomenon of both structures having identical volume measurements.
ron says: The pyramid itself possessed its own force centers: the heart of the King's Chamber, its most vital and sacred points, where divine energy was concentrated and especially powerful. And other chambers not yet discovered. The candidate undergoing initiation was placed in the great granite sarcophagus in the King's Chamber at the August moment of the initiation rites (Note: the purpose of Initiation is to bestow upon the disciple certain molecular changes in the body to handle higher energy)
ron says: because the sarcophagus was in direct alignment with the downpouring ray of cosmic light through the Ark in the Third Eye capstone.
Roz says: most interesting Ron
ron says: remember that Cayce said that Jesus and John the Baptist took their final Initiation inside the SEALED G. Pyramid
Blu says: awesome
ron says: The voltage of such a fiery light ray could only be endured by one in whom the physical, emotional and spiritual forces were completely aligned and purified. The candidate with an unbalanced polarity ran the risk of injury to the physical organism, or even death, because of the accelerated frequencies of manna-loa pouring through the capstone.
ron says: When the massive structure was first constructed, the final portion to be levitated into place was the gleaming gold and crystal capstone containing the original Ark of the Covenant, brought from Atlantis. This Ark and capstone graced the very summit of Knut. Once this floating capstone was so placed, the Great Ones created several lesser Arks.
ron says: The voltage of a second Ark was integrated into the structure of the open granite sarcophagus in the King's Chamber. Since granite is saturated with minute crystals, it was not difficult to charge the initiatory coffer with incredible cosmic force.
ron says: The crystals and compounds of which the Ark was constructed - the silver, brass-like substance, and pure living gold - were charged with seven octaves of energy, from the materialistic charges of electric voltage up to the highest spiritualized forces of celestial planes - pranic forces far beyond the voltage of Earth's electricity."
ron says: The uninitiated unprotected sons of Earth were not permitted to touch the Ark because of its radiating voltage, placed there by generated cosmic rays. The priests who had charge of it, called the Arkites, wore protective garments. But they were themselves charged with cosmic power.
ron says: Such human Arks were somewhat immune from the rays of the crystal because each radiated frequencies harmonious with the crystal. Since the Ark radiated an energy destructive to all inharmonious with it, a gold sheath was constructed to insulate it, to partially shield the people from the powerful emanations.
ron says: To maintain its potency, each Ark had to be constantly recharged with a creative energy of tremendous voltage. The principal source of that energy was man himself, and only the highest initiates were capable of radiating the particular force required to keep the Ark active.
ron says: Much of this responsibility fell upon the high priests, the Arkites or Ptahs of the temple, who, if they so willed it, could raise the frequency of their forms to radiate so powerful a force that an uninitiate touching their bodies could be struck down, just as if he had touched the Ark itself. Rarely was such voltage require of them, except to recharge the Arks.
ron says: a little bit more on Hermes/Thoth
ron says: THOTH: Ancient metaphysical works dealing essentially with the idea of the complete community of all beings and objects. Authorship of the books was attributed to the Egyptian god of wisdom, Thoth, whose name was sometimes translated into Greek as Hermes Trismegistus [Thoth the thrice great] and was therefore equated with the Greek god Hermes.
Roz says: makes sense
ron says: The books treat of a variety of subjects, including magic, astrology, and alchemy, and were particularly influential in the 3d cent. with the Neoplatonists and in France and England in the 17th cent.
ron says: In Greek religion and mythology, son of Zeus and Maia. His functions were many, but he was primarily the messenger of the gods, particularly of Zeus. He was god of travelers and roads, of luck, of music and eloquence, of merchants and commerce.
ron says: He was credited with having invented the lyre and the shepherd's flute. His most typical monument, the herma or herm, was a stone pillar which usually had a carved head on top and a phallus in the center, probably representing the god in his original role as the giver of fertility.
ron says: The Flying Mercury by Giovanni Bologna (Bargello, Florence) Hermes is represented as a graceful youth, wearing a wide-brimmed winged hat and winged sandals and carrying the caduceus.
ron says: talking about sex in the above...think of the Garden in Eden with its earthly temptation
diane says: sounds like the FTD florist man
ron says: A famous statue by Praxiteles, which is located in the Heraeum at Olympia, Greece, shows Hermes with the child Dionysus. The Romans identified Hermes with Mercury. ?
ron says: Ok...here is where i begin to close off...i chose certain quotes and author's commentary as to the 2nd Coming....and my view hasn't changed...but, IS only my view...no one else has to agree
diane says: let's hear it ron
ron says: For, He shall come as ye have seen Him go, in the body He occupied in Galilee. The body that He formed, that was crucified on the Cross, that rose from the tomb, that walked by the sea, that appeared to Simon, that appeared to Philip, that appeared to “I, even John.” 5749-4
ron says: He shall come as ye have seen Him go, in the body He occupied in Galilee. The body that He formed, that was crucified on the Cross
ron says: [Apparently the above has been forgotten by many who are involved with the Cayce readings. -ron]
ron says: When will his actual return be? Although a Cayce reading indicates that the year 1998 may somehow relate to the return of the Master, the readings and the Bible agree that only God - not even the Master - knows when he will return.
ron says: So Christ having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him. Hebrews 9:28 [p. 187]
ron says: not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him
Roz says: he took his body with him because itconsisted ofLight
diane says: yes
ron says: The book of Hebrews discusses in detail the new priesthood Jesus established through his connection with Melchizedek. But the incidents of royalty and kingship were missing from the life of Jesus.
ron says: another clue...
ron says: Jesus’ kingship is mentioned in the books of Enoch and often mentioned in the Old and New Testaments. But His actual kingship, however, is expected to happen at his Second Coming which is stressed in the New Testament. [p. 188]
ron says: Most of the Matthew, 24th chapter is an account by Jesus of his future return.
ron says: Jesus describes wars and rumors of wars, and other iniquities, and refers to the abominations prophesied by Daniel as signs, omens, of the time of his coming. He warns of false prophets but promises to shorten the days of desolation for the sake of his elect.
ron says: promises to shorten the days of desolation for the sake of his elect
tru_eagle says: shoten the day ,s
ron says: The sun and moon will be darkened, and then the sign of the Son of man shall appear in the heavens. He shall be seen “coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory,” and the angels “will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”
ron says: [Let me repeat for those who have forgotten …THE SON OF MAN SHALL APPEAR IN THE HEAVENS. HE SHALL BE SEEN “COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN WITH POWER AND GREAT GLORY,” …]
ron says: For the Son of man is to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay every man for what he has done. Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death before they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom. Matthew 16:27-28 [p. 188]
Blu says: Amen
ron says: Those individuals that were in hearing and in keeping of those things presented by the Master in that experience would be in the manifested form in the earth during the periods of fulfillments in the earth of the prophecies spoken of. 262-60
ron says: like the incarnation of John the Beloved, and/or John the Baptist, and/or John Peniel
ron says: may be the same person or two out those just mentioned
ron says: need for a physical birth?...well...i disagree!
ron says: does not need a physical channel to again walk the earth
ron says: can manifest when the time is right
ron says: i lean towards the Bible and Cayce
diane says: i'm in total agreement there
ron says: i will go on -
Roz says: and all who will may be with him Now
ron says: The return of Jesus or his Second Coming should be viewed on MORE THAN ONE LEVEL. It first may relate to the reception of the Christ Consciousness in an individual.
ron says: It may also pertain to the arrival of the Christ Consciousness on a national or international scale in our dealings with one another, or the promised “millennium.” Finally, it means the actual [physical return of Jesus in the skies in the manner in which he left. Then, he will dispense the final judgment.
ron says: yes, i agree with that above, we all are seeing happening for many years now
tru_eagle says: and the rapture ^i^
ron says: with an increase of religious feeling, and its opposition, the antichrist[tian] souls
ron says: we are at war NOW!...
ron says: sorry to put it that way
tru_eagle says: no .. ron .. u r right !
ron says: Is He abroad today in the earth? Yea, in those that cry unto Him from every corner…And He comes again the hearts and souls and minds of those that seek to know His ways. 5749-5
ron says: Reading 5749-4, states that he is not in a body in the earth, but he, “may come at will to him who WILLS to be one with, and acts in love to make same possible.”
ron says: "at will"...thus at an instant!
tru_eagle says: an more praying .. can do that !
ron says: There is that access, then, that way, to the Throne of Grace, of Mercy, of Peace, of Understanding, within thine own self. For He hath promised to meet thee in thine own temple, in thine own body, through thine own mind…And then enter into the Holy of Holies, within thine own consciousness; turn within; see what has prompted thee. And He has promised to meet thee there. 922-1
ron says: The veil isolating the Temple Holy of Holies was rent and torn symbolically at the death of Jesus. We are now free to meet God - and the Master - within our own inner bodily temple.
ron says: Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?” I Corinthians 3:16 [p. 189]
ron says: Revelation, chapter 20 tells of the binding of the devil or Satan for a 1000 years during which his influence on earth will not be felt. Jesus’ elect will rule with him on earth at this time; they will be known as the “first resurrection.”
ron says: so there is a heirarchy of souls/spirits...those who are highly accomplished and those that are not so...thus shows who is really in control of our evolution...free will is not absolutely free!
ron says: Afterwards Satan will be let loose again on earth for a season. The “second resurrection” occurs sometime afterward in the final judgment when Satan is cast out forever.
diane says: into a lake of fire
ron says: Q. When Jesus the Christ comes the second time, will He set up His kingdom on earth and will it be an everlasting kingdom?
ron says: A. Read His promises in that ye have written of his words, even as “I gave.” He shall rule for a thousand years. Then shall Satan be loosed again for a season. 5749-4
ron says: just gotta read that Bible and believe!
ron says: …for a thousand years He will walk and talk with men of every clime. Then in groups, in masses, and then they shall reign of the first resurrection for a thousand years; for this will be when the changes materially come. 364-8 [p. 189]
ron says: This millennium period, there will be a new age of love and understanding among the nations and in the dealings of individuals one with the other. The distracting and misleading influence of the devil will be absent.
ron says: i'm not finished yet...but i did get my starting point a little mixed :)
ron says: be patient with some repeats....besides repetition is a nice memorizing tool